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January 31, 2018 12:16 PM Subscribe
NEEDS MOAR LUIS
posted by entropicamericana at 12:31 PM on January 31, 2018 [17 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 12:31 PM on January 31, 2018 [17 favorites]
I'm having a hard time identifying that city skyline in the beginning. It's SF?
Yes.
posted by touchstone033 at 12:36 PM on January 31, 2018
Yes.
posted by touchstone033 at 12:36 PM on January 31, 2018
NEEDS MOAR LUIS
Yeah, what the hell, I need him, America needs him right now.
posted by middleclasstool at 12:41 PM on January 31, 2018 [6 favorites]
Yeah, what the hell, I need him, America needs him right now.
posted by middleclasstool at 12:41 PM on January 31, 2018 [6 favorites]
I'm having a hard time identifying that city skyline in the beginning. It's SF?
For better or worse, there's only one city in the US where you can have an urban car chase involving random jumps.
posted by GuyZero at 12:51 PM on January 31, 2018 [12 favorites]
For better or worse, there's only one city in the US where you can have an urban car chase involving random jumps.
posted by GuyZero at 12:51 PM on January 31, 2018 [12 favorites]
It looks great. The Wasp suit also looks really good, and if we can skate reprising certain comics canon, all good.
Also, count me down for #TeamLuis! (Unless that involves shipping Luis and Scott, in which case I am shrinking and bailing out of here!)
posted by Samizdata at 1:04 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
Also, count me down for #TeamLuis! (Unless that involves shipping Luis and Scott, in which case I am shrinking and bailing out of here!)
posted by Samizdata at 1:04 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
Why is Perry White in this movie?
From Breaking Down the Quite Charming Ant-Man and the Wasp Trailer:
From Breaking Down the Quite Charming Ant-Man and the Wasp Trailer:
This here is Laurence Fishburne’s Bill Foster, a person who, at least in the comics, has a long history of working with Hank. Is he in the same room as our mysterious figure? He certainly has that “we shouldn’t have played God!” scientist-y look on his face. Within Marvel’s four-color pages, Bill’s operated at times as the superhero Black Goliath, though I would be truly shocked if the brand dared to use that name in 2018, even as a joke.posted by 1970s Antihero at 1:09 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
Yay! I look forward to this as Ant-Man was an unexpected delight. I also look forward to the frustration my husband will display at the flagrant misuse of physics and weight when it comes to shrinking things.
posted by Kitteh at 1:23 PM on January 31, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Kitteh at 1:23 PM on January 31, 2018 [3 favorites]
:D
posted by sexyrobot at 1:26 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by sexyrobot at 1:26 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
Also, YAY TARDIGRADES!
posted by hanov3r at 1:34 PM on January 31, 2018 [7 favorites]
posted by hanov3r at 1:34 PM on January 31, 2018 [7 favorites]
Here's hoping that we get at least one scene of Giant Cassie, aka Stature.
posted by Halloween Jack at 1:42 PM on January 31, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 1:42 PM on January 31, 2018 [3 favorites]
Douglas' delivery of the line where Pym says he DID have the blasters and wings but chose not to give them to Scott is one of my favorite moments of any trailer in a long time.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 1:50 PM on January 31, 2018 [14 favorites]
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 1:50 PM on January 31, 2018 [14 favorites]
Also, YAY TARDIGRADES!
If you like tardigrades, you should check out Papergirls. It's not all about tardigrades, but it is tardigrade-adjacent.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 2:02 PM on January 31, 2018 [9 favorites]
If you like tardigrades, you should check out Papergirls. It's not all about tardigrades, but it is tardigrade-adjacent.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 2:02 PM on January 31, 2018 [9 favorites]
The Wasp suit also looks really good, and if we can skate reprising certain comics canon, all good.
I was disappointed they decided to make Janet part of the secret past instead of a present-day hero and (I'd hope) eventual Avenger. But I'm realizing that it's probably an effective way to ditch most of the baggage the characters of Hank and Janet have from the comics and keep it from threatening to spill over into the movies. Scott and Hope can be their own Ant-Man & Wasp.
I hope they lean into the idea that, whatever the public perception, Ant-Man is totally the Wasp's sidekick. It would be even better and more interesting if for this movie they switched to Hope as the viewpoint character, but I doubt they'll go that far.
posted by straight at 2:11 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
I was disappointed they decided to make Janet part of the secret past instead of a present-day hero and (I'd hope) eventual Avenger. But I'm realizing that it's probably an effective way to ditch most of the baggage the characters of Hank and Janet have from the comics and keep it from threatening to spill over into the movies. Scott and Hope can be their own Ant-Man & Wasp.
I hope they lean into the idea that, whatever the public perception, Ant-Man is totally the Wasp's sidekick. It would be even better and more interesting if for this movie they switched to Hope as the viewpoint character, but I doubt they'll go that far.
posted by straight at 2:11 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
> touchstone033:
"I'm having a hard time identifying that city skyline in the beginning. It's SF?
Yes."
You're having a hard time identifying it because of the monstrosity that is the new Salesforce Tower. They ought to shrink that down and wheel it off.
posted by chavenet at 2:12 PM on January 31, 2018 [7 favorites]
"I'm having a hard time identifying that city skyline in the beginning. It's SF?
Yes."
You're having a hard time identifying it because of the monstrosity that is the new Salesforce Tower. They ought to shrink that down and wheel it off.
posted by chavenet at 2:12 PM on January 31, 2018 [7 favorites]
I don't care what else happens in this movie, as long as (and the trailer promises) we get a whole lot of Big Thing Becomes Tiny and Tiny Thing Becomes Big, I'm there.
posted by Guy Smiley at 2:13 PM on January 31, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by Guy Smiley at 2:13 PM on January 31, 2018 [6 favorites]
I was disappointed they decided to make Janet part of the secret past instead of a present-day hero and (I'd hope) eventual Avenger.
I'd give my last kidney to see her come back as Yellowjacket.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:18 PM on January 31, 2018
I'd give my last kidney to see her come back as Yellowjacket.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:18 PM on January 31, 2018
You're having a hard time identifying it because of the monstrosity that is the new Salesforce Tower. They ought to shrink that down and wheel it off.lol. I totally thought that was a CGI "Avenger's Tower West" or some such..
posted by device55 at 2:19 PM on January 31, 2018 [2 favorites]
I checked and Peyton Reed is back as director, though I was a little disappointed with the first Ant-Man that they didn't let more Reediness through.
posted by RobotHero at 2:31 PM on January 31, 2018
posted by RobotHero at 2:31 PM on January 31, 2018
Also tardigrade adjacent: A Long Way to a Small Angry Planet, Star Trek: Discovery.
I was explaining to someone that there seems to be a rule that every nerd thing must have tardigrades these days and then that led to a discussion of what a tardigrade actually is and every new bit of it just sounded more and more made up, plus they didn’t know why I would know all this stuff...
Because tardigrades, obvs!
Anyway, at least they’ve pinned them down as being more or less of terrestrial origin these days... (related to the velvet worm, which is itself pretty weird)
posted by Artw at 2:33 PM on January 31, 2018 [5 favorites]
I was explaining to someone that there seems to be a rule that every nerd thing must have tardigrades these days and then that led to a discussion of what a tardigrade actually is and every new bit of it just sounded more and more made up, plus they didn’t know why I would know all this stuff...
Because tardigrades, obvs!
Anyway, at least they’ve pinned them down as being more or less of terrestrial origin these days... (related to the velvet worm, which is itself pretty weird)
posted by Artw at 2:33 PM on January 31, 2018 [5 favorites]
For those wishing about Janet...Well, IMDB has Michelle Pfeiffer cast as the character. In what capacity she will be in the film, I have no clue. Big or little. Sorry. Not sorry.
posted by Atreides at 2:36 PM on January 31, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by Atreides at 2:36 PM on January 31, 2018 [4 favorites]
With the MCU so centered around people who get powers from wearing some kind of suit (Iron Man, Black Panther, Falcon, even Spider-Man), I'd really like to see them follow the comics and give Wasp the inherent power to shrink, fly, and sting.
posted by straight at 2:52 PM on January 31, 2018
posted by straight at 2:52 PM on January 31, 2018
Metafilter: tardigrade-adjacent.
posted by zardoz at 3:02 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by zardoz at 3:02 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
The trailers isn't doing much for me but I'm sure that I'll go see the movie anyway.
posted by octothorpe at 3:06 PM on January 31, 2018
posted by octothorpe at 3:06 PM on January 31, 2018
They filmed part of this in downtown Oakland last year. They took up a couple blocks of Webster St. with trailers and stuff, and they had some flatbed trucks a block over with the Antmobile, or whatever it is (actually, two of them). I was like "this is probably not an indie movie," and I looked it up on /r/oakland when I got home.
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 3:09 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 3:09 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
This trailer is okay, hoenstly fine, but...
Kendrick Lamar's Black Panther Soundtrack Gets a Track List, Release Date, and a Badass Cover
posted by Artw at 3:12 PM on January 31, 2018 [5 favorites]
Kendrick Lamar's Black Panther Soundtrack Gets a Track List, Release Date, and a Badass Cover
posted by Artw at 3:12 PM on January 31, 2018 [5 favorites]
I hope the soundtrack isn't all Complaint Rock. At least not sporadically.
posted by humboldt32 at 3:25 PM on January 31, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by humboldt32 at 3:25 PM on January 31, 2018 [2 favorites]
That IMDB page is full of info, like Bill Foster is just called "Goliath" and we'll finally get the MCU debut of the classic Marvel character The Hot Jogger.
posted by ckape at 3:25 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by ckape at 3:25 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
I like the music but other than that... just another cape movie and I'm sorry but I'm just bored of them
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:30 PM on January 31, 2018
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:30 PM on January 31, 2018
I mean, they’ve all got a tendency to take the varied and interesting first two thirds of the movie and bury it under a big CGI punch up on the last third, on the other hand the CGI punch up for the first Ant Man had Thomas the Tank Engine.
posted by Artw at 3:44 PM on January 31, 2018 [10 favorites]
posted by Artw at 3:44 PM on January 31, 2018 [10 favorites]
The big CGI punch up from Ant Man was the best use of CGI ever. It was incredible. The way they shot it was reminiscent of tilt shift miniaturization photos and the colors and the eerie train face interspersed with the long shots. It was just SO well done.
I can't find it because I'm on my phone but the list of stipulations from the Thomas the Tank Engine people is hilarious. They had to agree to all sorts including not to tie anyone to the tracks and have them be run over by Thomas.
posted by fshgrl at 3:54 PM on January 31, 2018 [5 favorites]
I can't find it because I'm on my phone but the list of stipulations from the Thomas the Tank Engine people is hilarious. They had to agree to all sorts including not to tie anyone to the tracks and have them be run over by Thomas.
posted by fshgrl at 3:54 PM on January 31, 2018 [5 favorites]
How Thomas The Tank Engine Appeared In Ant-Man
posted by Artw at 4:26 PM on January 31, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Artw at 4:26 PM on January 31, 2018 [3 favorites]
The first Ant-Man movie was fun, and Evangeline Lilly seems like a good choice for The Wasp, so I'm looking forward to this. If it also includes a gigantic version of Laurence Fishburne, that's a bonus.
posted by Nat "King" Cole Porter Wagoner at 4:51 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Nat "King" Cole Porter Wagoner at 4:51 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
Woohoo! Woohoo! Woohoo! Woohoo! Woohoo!
posted by subliminable at 5:41 PM on January 31, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by subliminable at 5:41 PM on January 31, 2018 [3 favorites]
I would also have seen a movie titled Ant-Man and The Wasp: Big Thing Becomes Tiny and Tiny Thing Becomes Big.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:03 PM on January 31, 2018 [5 favorites]
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:03 PM on January 31, 2018 [5 favorites]
Douglas' delivery of the line where Pym says he DID have the blasters and wings but chose not to give them to Scott is one of my favorite moments of any trailer in a long time.When Scott asks, "Why don't you give them names?" and Pym replies, "Do you know how many ants there are?" was probably my favorite line from the first movie. Completely because of Michael Douglas' perfect Michael Douglas delivery.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 1:50 PM on January 31 [9 favorites −] Favorite added! [!]
posted by Horkus at 7:12 PM on January 31, 2018 [4 favorites]
> straight:
"The Wasp suit also looks really good, and if we can skate reprising certain comics canon, all good.
I was disappointed they decided to make Janet part of the secret past instead of a present-day hero and (I'd hope) eventual Avenger. But I'm realizing that it's probably an effective way to ditch most of the baggage the characters of Hank and Janet have from the comics and keep it from threatening to spill over into the movies. Scott and Hope can be their own Ant-Man & Wasp.
I hope they lean into the idea that, whatever the public perception, Ant-Man is totally the Wasp's sidekick. It would be even better and more interesting if for this movie they switched to Hope as the viewpoint character, but I doubt they'll go that far."
I can see that. And Hank and Janet issues were exactly what I was alluding to. Now, if we could find a mass brainwashing rig to erase the whole "Janet went...wossname...quantum" section of Ant-Man, I would be down for a reboot without the issues endemic in Hank and Janet, as well as Janet's treatment by Marvel. We can do it RIGHT this time.
(Also, Paul Rudd's Scott is likeable enough I don't want to see him go sidekick. I am perfectly fine with them being a team and some goodnatured competition between them.)
posted by Samizdata at 7:30 PM on January 31, 2018
"The Wasp suit also looks really good, and if we can skate reprising certain comics canon, all good.
I was disappointed they decided to make Janet part of the secret past instead of a present-day hero and (I'd hope) eventual Avenger. But I'm realizing that it's probably an effective way to ditch most of the baggage the characters of Hank and Janet have from the comics and keep it from threatening to spill over into the movies. Scott and Hope can be their own Ant-Man & Wasp.
I hope they lean into the idea that, whatever the public perception, Ant-Man is totally the Wasp's sidekick. It would be even better and more interesting if for this movie they switched to Hope as the viewpoint character, but I doubt they'll go that far."
I can see that. And Hank and Janet issues were exactly what I was alluding to. Now, if we could find a mass brainwashing rig to erase the whole "Janet went...wossname...quantum" section of Ant-Man, I would be down for a reboot without the issues endemic in Hank and Janet, as well as Janet's treatment by Marvel. We can do it RIGHT this time.
(Also, Paul Rudd's Scott is likeable enough I don't want to see him go sidekick. I am perfectly fine with them being a team and some goodnatured competition between them.)
posted by Samizdata at 7:30 PM on January 31, 2018
(Of course, there would be a scene where he rescues her, and another later where she rescues him from an equal or worse threat...)
posted by Samizdata at 7:34 PM on January 31, 2018
posted by Samizdata at 7:34 PM on January 31, 2018
we'll finally get the MCU debut of the classic Marvel character The Hot Jogger.
Also, four separate people are cast as Pedestrian. I guess that is the Kirby one, the Romita one, and I do not know enough about eighties and nineties Marvel comics to guess about the last two.
EXCELSIOR
posted by ricochet biscuit at 8:06 PM on January 31, 2018 [8 favorites]
Also, four separate people are cast as Pedestrian. I guess that is the Kirby one, the Romita one, and I do not know enough about eighties and nineties Marvel comics to guess about the last two.
EXCELSIOR
posted by ricochet biscuit at 8:06 PM on January 31, 2018 [8 favorites]
The quick fades to black became painful.
posted by bonobothegreat at 8:25 PM on January 31, 2018
posted by bonobothegreat at 8:25 PM on January 31, 2018
Now, if we could find a mass brainwashing rig to erase the whole "Janet went...wossname...quantum" section of Ant-Man
I figure Janet's hanging out in the Microverse. I'd guess trying to find a way to rescue her is the B plot of this movie and that it will end with them mounting a rescue expedition only to discover that Surprise! there's a whole alternate universe down there and Janet's been reigning over Sub-Atomica at the side of Queen Jarella or held captive by Psycho-Man, which will be the lead in to the next movie.
posted by straight at 10:32 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
I figure Janet's hanging out in the Microverse. I'd guess trying to find a way to rescue her is the B plot of this movie and that it will end with them mounting a rescue expedition only to discover that Surprise! there's a whole alternate universe down there and Janet's been reigning over Sub-Atomica at the side of Queen Jarella or held captive by Psycho-Man, which will be the lead in to the next movie.
posted by straight at 10:32 PM on January 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
I like the music but other than that... just another cape movie and I'm sorry but I'm just bored of them
Thank you. You have fulfilled the contractual requirement that in any thread about superhero films someone MUST come in and tell everyone how tired they are of superhero films. You will not be needed until the Black Panther film debuted.
Seriously? Why is it only superhero films where always someone has to come in and shit on the idea? We don't get this crap in police procedurals, spy films, gangster epics or romantic comedies.
posted by happyroach at 10:36 PM on January 31, 2018 [11 favorites]
Thank you. You have fulfilled the contractual requirement that in any thread about superhero films someone MUST come in and tell everyone how tired they are of superhero films. You will not be needed until the Black Panther film debuted.
Seriously? Why is it only superhero films where always someone has to come in and shit on the idea? We don't get this crap in police procedurals, spy films, gangster epics or romantic comedies.
posted by happyroach at 10:36 PM on January 31, 2018 [11 favorites]
Well, we also don't get a FPP about every single spy film or romantic comedy Hollywood releases. I sure ain't tired of superheroes, but I can imagine what it's like for people who are.
posted by straight at 12:55 AM on February 1, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by straight at 12:55 AM on February 1, 2018 [3 favorites]
The big CGI punch up from Ant Man was the best use of CGI ever.
My favorite bit of that entire scene was one of the characters being in front of an oncoming model train, just about to be hit and freezing in fear....and then we cut to normal scale, and the train just stops with a gentle "biff" noise.
Also, four separate people are cast as Pedestrian. I guess that is the Kirby one, the Romita one, and I do not know enough about eighties and nineties Marvel comics to guess about the last two.
You can tell the nineties one by his anatomically impossible waist, huge pecs, and massive collection of pouches. Just, like, pouches everywhere. Oh, and tiny weirdly-shaped feet.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 1:20 AM on February 1, 2018 [6 favorites]
My favorite bit of that entire scene was one of the characters being in front of an oncoming model train, just about to be hit and freezing in fear....and then we cut to normal scale, and the train just stops with a gentle "biff" noise.
Also, four separate people are cast as Pedestrian. I guess that is the Kirby one, the Romita one, and I do not know enough about eighties and nineties Marvel comics to guess about the last two.
You can tell the nineties one by his anatomically impossible waist, huge pecs, and massive collection of pouches. Just, like, pouches everywhere. Oh, and tiny weirdly-shaped feet.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 1:20 AM on February 1, 2018 [6 favorites]
You can tell the nineties one by his anatomically impossible waist, huge pecs, and massive collection of pouches. Just, like, pouches everywhere. Oh, and tiny weirdly-shaped feet.
I seriously pray that the trend dies an honorable death before this happens. And I'm a comic book guy.
posted by mikelieman at 1:54 AM on February 1, 2018
I seriously pray that the trend dies an honorable death before this happens. And I'm a comic book guy.
posted by mikelieman at 1:54 AM on February 1, 2018
"I am too old for those police procedurals."
posted by Pronoiac at 1:58 AM on February 1, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Pronoiac at 1:58 AM on February 1, 2018 [3 favorites]
I will not peeve about how this is a superhero movie!
Instead, I will peeve about how this movie (a) gives away the entire plot in the trailer (b) was irritatingly loud.
Get off my lawn. You and the ant you rode in on.
posted by Fraxas at 2:12 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
Instead, I will peeve about how this movie (a) gives away the entire plot in the trailer (b) was irritatingly loud.
Get off my lawn. You and the ant you rode in on.
posted by Fraxas at 2:12 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
Bill’s operated at times as the superhero Black Goliath, though I would be truly shocked if the brand dared to use that name in 2018, even as a joke.
Maybe they'll film this old Marvel book instead.
posted by Paul Slade at 3:07 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
Maybe they'll film this old Marvel book instead.
posted by Paul Slade at 3:07 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
I still wish that we could have seen the Edgar Wright Ant Man movie. The movie that we got was OK from what I can remember but I can't actually remember much but the Thomas the Tank Engine scene. Marvel has been hiring some interesting directors lately like Gunn, Coogler or Waititi and I wish that they'd gotten someone with a little more visual sense than Peyton Reed to do this or the first Ant Man film.
posted by octothorpe at 3:53 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by octothorpe at 3:53 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
Peyton Reed has plenty of visual sense. I would love it if we could get a super hero movie that looked like Down With Love or Bring It On but it does feel like he's been stylistically subdued in Ant-Man.
posted by RobotHero at 6:35 AM on February 1, 2018
posted by RobotHero at 6:35 AM on February 1, 2018
I can't actually remember much but the Thomas the Tank Engine scene
Plainsong briefcase.
posted by snofoam at 6:48 AM on February 1, 2018
Plainsong briefcase.
posted by snofoam at 6:48 AM on February 1, 2018
Instead, I will peeve about how this movie (a) gives away the entire plot in the trailer...
Oh? By all means, tell me the plot of the movie and we'll see how accurate you are when it comes out, lol.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:56 AM on February 1, 2018
Oh? By all means, tell me the plot of the movie and we'll see how accurate you are when it comes out, lol.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:56 AM on February 1, 2018
Seriously? Why is it only superhero films where always someone has to come in and shit on the idea? We don't get this crap in police procedurals, spy films, gangster epics or romantic comedies.
Some people just like to watch the world burn.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:58 AM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]
Some people just like to watch the world burn.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:58 AM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]
For those wishing about Janet...Well, IMDB has Michelle Pfeiffer cast as the character. In what capacity she will be in the film, I have no clue. Big or little
No small parts, only small actors.
posted by nubs at 7:57 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
No small parts, only small actors.
posted by nubs at 7:57 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
I can't actually remember much but the Thomas the Tank Engine scene
The villain looked really a lot like Grant Morrison.
posted by Artw at 8:44 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
The villain looked really a lot like Grant Morrison.
posted by Artw at 8:44 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
Seriously? Why is it only superhero films where always someone has to come in and shit on the idea? We don't get this crap in police procedurals, spy films, gangster epics or romantic comedies.
Well in fairness until this current spate of Marvel movies most superhero movies sucked. Original Bat man excepted. They were juvenile, poorly written, rife with bad CGI, had terrible dialogue, dumb love stories, no female leads, a total lack of continuity or regard for the laws of physics and were squarely aimed at a certain type of young man with white knight fantasies. And even the grim/ dark aesthetic was just emo and teen angst. For me even Wonder Woman fell into this category of simple story for simple folk, I was really disappointed in it. The actors were charming but the story and dialogue were idiotic (the boat ride? The unnecessary secrets?) And of course they had to stuff an American in there as the hero.
Somewhere between Iron Man and Guardians of the Galaxy superhero movies slowly evolved into the fun, unhinged multi-cultural/ romps they always should have been. Thor Ragnarok was fantastic by any measure, the Guardians movies were great, Black Panther looks fucking amazing (I so hope it is) and Ant Man was a little gem. I am totally won over to present day Marvel but most other superhero movies do suck *as movies* by any metric. AND a lot of the stories are downright offensive to anyone who's not a white American male.
posted by fshgrl at 11:46 AM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]
Well in fairness until this current spate of Marvel movies most superhero movies sucked. Original Bat man excepted. They were juvenile, poorly written, rife with bad CGI, had terrible dialogue, dumb love stories, no female leads, a total lack of continuity or regard for the laws of physics and were squarely aimed at a certain type of young man with white knight fantasies. And even the grim/ dark aesthetic was just emo and teen angst. For me even Wonder Woman fell into this category of simple story for simple folk, I was really disappointed in it. The actors were charming but the story and dialogue were idiotic (the boat ride? The unnecessary secrets?) And of course they had to stuff an American in there as the hero.
Somewhere between Iron Man and Guardians of the Galaxy superhero movies slowly evolved into the fun, unhinged multi-cultural/ romps they always should have been. Thor Ragnarok was fantastic by any measure, the Guardians movies were great, Black Panther looks fucking amazing (I so hope it is) and Ant Man was a little gem. I am totally won over to present day Marvel but most other superhero movies do suck *as movies* by any metric. AND a lot of the stories are downright offensive to anyone who's not a white American male.
posted by fshgrl at 11:46 AM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]
I enjoy Wright films too, but it sounded like his version of Ant Man had very little Hope van Dyne in it. If that's true, I'd happily take the Reed version (and this sequel) over Wright's.
posted by Fiberoptic Zebroid and The Hypnagogic Jerks at 2:27 PM on February 1, 2018
posted by Fiberoptic Zebroid and The Hypnagogic Jerks at 2:27 PM on February 1, 2018
I'm curious about the dude who seems to think he can hit a wasp-sized target by throwing kitchen knives at it--and almost does!
posted by straight at 10:52 AM on February 2, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by straight at 10:52 AM on February 2, 2018 [1 favorite]
> straight:
"I'm curious about the dude who seems to think he can hit a wasp-sized target by throwing kitchen knives at it--and almost does!"
I LOVED watching Wasp just truck right down the side of the blade like it ain't no thang.
posted by Samizdata at 12:56 PM on February 3, 2018 [1 favorite]
"I'm curious about the dude who seems to think he can hit a wasp-sized target by throwing kitchen knives at it--and almost does!"
I LOVED watching Wasp just truck right down the side of the blade like it ain't no thang.
posted by Samizdata at 12:56 PM on February 3, 2018 [1 favorite]
If I could hit wasps with knives I totally would. Little fuckers.
posted by Artw at 1:49 PM on February 3, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Artw at 1:49 PM on February 3, 2018 [1 favorite]
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I'm having a hard time identifying that city skyline in the beginning. It's SF?
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:21 PM on January 31, 2018