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Star Wars Rebels [Mid Season 4 Trailer] [Contains Spoilers] “The end begins when Star Wars Rebels returns with its final episodes.”
• ‘Star Wars Rebels’ Just Changed Everything We Know About ‘Star Wars’ [Slash/Film] [Contains Spoilers]
• ‘Star Wars Rebels’ Just Changed Everything We Know About ‘Star Wars’ [Slash/Film] [Contains Spoilers]
“As Star Wars Rebels moves closer to its final episode, the series has been pushing the boundaries of what we expect from an animated Star Wars show. Just like The Clone Wars before it, Rebels has become a vital part of series canon, expanding the landscape of the films, books, and comics that make up the main Star Wars universe. From the re-introduction of former expanded universe villain Admiral Thrawn to vital new characters like Kanan, Hera, and Ezra, Rebels has always been at the forefront of Disney’s plans for the Star Wars galaxy. But with Monday’s penultimate episode, Rebels introduced something that changes a core part of the mythos of Star Wars. It will have a huge impact on the final three episodes of the show and the greater Star Wars universe…maybe even the films. So here’s everything you need to know. Natural, major spoilers lurk ahead.”• Star Wars Rebels Just Answered One of Its Biggest Mysteries [io9] [Contains Spoilers]
“There was a distinct weight and inevitability at the start of Monday’s Star Wars Rebels. With only a few episodes left, it felt like things were about to change. We didn’t know why, we didn’t know how, but all the characters seemed prepared for it. Then we found out both why and how. And it was devastating.”• Rebels Just Introduced Something We Never Thought We'd See in Star Wars [io9] [Contains Spoilers]
“Monday’s penultimate pair of Rebels episodes, “Wolves and a Door” and “A World Between Worlds,” revealed a new part of Star Wars mythology we’ve never seen before. It’s something that could potentially change everything on Rebels, but also the movies—all while setting up a finale that will probably do just that.”• Star Wars Rebels' Big Twist Reveals a Key Connection With Rogue One [IGN] [Contains Spoilers]
“Star Wars Rebels resumed its fourth and final season on Monday, bringing the series closer to its big climax. And it did so in truly dramatic fashion, delivering a major blow to the Ghost crew in their ongoing fight against the Empire.”• Star Wars Rebels Follows Up Tragedy With Triumph [IGN] [Contains Spoilers]
“Last week, Star Wars Rebels shifted in a somber direction...”
Well, cleverly, with the destruction of the temple [SPOILER] isn't possible anymore. Good way to utilize it once and maybe leave open a possibility for live-action Ahsoka cause she went through the [SPOILER], without it becoming a crutch. I am a huge Star Trek fan- I'm just the biggest Trekkie and I feel that Trek is a good example of the best uses of [SPOILER] and the absolute worst uses of [SPOILER] where it is absolutely a crutch or worse, a gimmick. [SPOILER] doesn't make sci-fi lazy, it's only lazy if it's used poorly. (Which in many IP's it absolutely is.) I am withdrawing judgement until the series finale. I reserve the right to reverse my position if they start abusing it.
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 6:41 PM on February 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 6:41 PM on February 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
Mannnn, f that noise. +1000 that Star Wars is better without [SPOILER], to the point where all I had to do was read the above two comments to know what it was.
posted by potrzebie at 6:53 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by potrzebie at 6:53 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
it’s Vulcans, isn’t it
posted by roger ackroyd at 7:05 PM on February 27, 2018 [10 favorites]
posted by roger ackroyd at 7:05 PM on February 27, 2018 [10 favorites]
I figured it was the song "Sabotage."
posted by Iridic at 7:30 PM on February 27, 2018 [14 favorites]
posted by Iridic at 7:30 PM on February 27, 2018 [14 favorites]
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth [SPOILER] the [SPOILER]? I thought not. It's not a [SPOILER] the Jedi would tell you.
posted by infinitewindow at 7:49 PM on February 27, 2018 [9 favorites]
posted by infinitewindow at 7:49 PM on February 27, 2018 [9 favorites]
I thought the Force Gods on Mortis in The Clone Wars were much more tonally weird for Star Wars than the [SPOILER] in question tbh. Really we've been dancing around the edges of the possibility of [SPOILER] since Empire, so going there in a way that's limited isn't really objectionable to me.
posted by jason_steakums at 7:51 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by jason_steakums at 7:51 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Search your [SPOILER], you know it to be true!
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 7:51 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 7:51 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
I wonder what the [SPOILER] is, I bet it’s [censored]
*reads first article* oh god it is geez I would give this show a serious chance of becoming non-canon just because dealing with [SPOILER] is such a pain in the ass for writers and audiences. Maybe if there are super heavy restrictions or something.
*resists the temptation to say what [SPOILER] is even though she’s pretty much done with Star Wars after forty years of it*
posted by egypturnash at 7:55 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
*reads first article* oh god it is geez I would give this show a serious chance of becoming non-canon just because dealing with [SPOILER] is such a pain in the ass for writers and audiences. Maybe if there are super heavy restrictions or something.
*resists the temptation to say what [SPOILER] is even though she’s pretty much done with Star Wars after forty years of it*
posted by egypturnash at 7:55 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Ironic, he could save others from [SPOILER] but not himself.
posted by entropicamericana at 7:56 PM on February 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 7:56 PM on February 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
The [SPOILER] will be with you, always.
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 7:57 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 7:57 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
I got a bad [SPOILER] about this.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 7:59 PM on February 27, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 7:59 PM on February 27, 2018 [6 favorites]
Oh man! I was gonna make my first FanFare post about Rebels, since it doesn't seem like there's been one in a couple years, and I didn't realize until this afternoon that it's an hour away from over. I started watching it when it started a couple years ago, it was a thing that was on, and I'll have it on while I'm working if it's scifi/animated, especially a big title.
They've taken a question mark, no-stakes story and made it really, really good. All the better since they didn't start on a high point, or even a recognizable one. The writers, designers, animators, and everyone involved with this show deserve huge props.
OK. Gonna watch the new ones in a few.
posted by rp at 8:03 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
They've taken a question mark, no-stakes story and made it really, really good. All the better since they didn't start on a high point, or even a recognizable one. The writers, designers, animators, and everyone involved with this show deserve huge props.
OK. Gonna watch the new ones in a few.
posted by rp at 8:03 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
I find your lack of [SPOILER] disturbing.
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 8:03 PM on February 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 8:03 PM on February 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
Never tell me the [SPOILERS]!
posted by infinitewindow at 8:13 PM on February 27, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by infinitewindow at 8:13 PM on February 27, 2018 [6 favorites]
Why, you stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking [SPOILER]!
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 8:15 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 8:15 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
I don't get it guys, does the millennium falcon not have enough drag?
*ducks*
posted by Rinku at 8:28 PM on February 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
*ducks*
posted by Rinku at 8:28 PM on February 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
Yeah, it just doesn't have the engine power to slingshot around the sun.
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 8:31 PM on February 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 8:31 PM on February 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
All a'y'all who are saying you're done with Star Wars because of [SPOILER] even though you came back after green- screen-everything-boss-surrounded-by-yes-men-racist-alien-party numbers 1 through 3 realize that this show is canon, but canon to the degree that the ship from Rebels was on screen for 1.7s of Rogue One. Which makes it as canon as the idea that Star Wars and Star Trek are the same universe because JJ put an R2 in the space debris in his Star Trek reboot.
I gotta say I love this show. I love how they're using old Ralph McQuarrie designs that never made it into A New Hope. I love the fact that almost every time a known Star Wars character shows up they're voiced by the original actor (Frank Oz?!? Billy Dee Williams?!?! JAMES EARL JONES!??!). I was never into The Clone Wars (I was smitten by the Tartakovsky version instead) but can appreciate that Filoni is making call backs to that series as well.
So what I'm saying is both cut them some slack because they earned it and it doesn't matter nearly as much as you think it does because as much as they say this is canon it's only going to get the most cursory of Easter egg references in the films.
posted by thecjm at 8:45 PM on February 27, 2018 [9 favorites]
I gotta say I love this show. I love how they're using old Ralph McQuarrie designs that never made it into A New Hope. I love the fact that almost every time a known Star Wars character shows up they're voiced by the original actor (Frank Oz?!? Billy Dee Williams?!?! JAMES EARL JONES!??!). I was never into The Clone Wars (I was smitten by the Tartakovsky version instead) but can appreciate that Filoni is making call backs to that series as well.
So what I'm saying is both cut them some slack because they earned it and it doesn't matter nearly as much as you think it does because as much as they say this is canon it's only going to get the most cursory of Easter egg references in the films.
posted by thecjm at 8:45 PM on February 27, 2018 [9 favorites]
Ah, Jeez.
Well, I think I can pat myself on the back for jumping ship when it got bought by Disney, again (this happens increasingly often) and go back to hugging my old EU paperbacks until they literally fall apart.
...no, It's not pathetic, Tales from Jabba's Palace is art I tell you!
posted by pan at 9:01 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Well, I think I can pat myself on the back for jumping ship when it got bought by Disney, again (this happens increasingly often) and go back to hugging my old EU paperbacks until they literally fall apart.
...no, It's not pathetic, Tales from Jabba's Palace is art I tell you!
posted by pan at 9:01 PM on February 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
This $25 'Attack of the Clones' Remake Is Better Than the Prequels. [SPOILER] Direct youtube link.
The same people also remade Revenge of the Sith.
posted by peeedro at 9:02 PM on February 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
The same people also remade Revenge of the Sith.
posted by peeedro at 9:02 PM on February 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
I'm with thecjm on this. It is not nearly as big a deal overall (this well worn scifi trope is likely limited to this specific story and is there specifically as a vehicle to preserve the beloved character). I haven't caught up with this season yet but everything I've seen in the previous seasons makes me think they will do a good job with this one. Rebels has done more to make the Star Wars universe better, coherent and interesting then the last 6 live action films.
posted by Ashwagandha at 9:17 PM on February 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by Ashwagandha at 9:17 PM on February 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
Maybe the real [SPOILERS] were the clones we made along the way.
posted by Guy Smiley at 9:36 PM on February 27, 2018 [8 favorites]
posted by Guy Smiley at 9:36 PM on February 27, 2018 [8 favorites]
I haven't been watching Clone Wars at all and when I first saw that trailer and read those comments about Star Trek I thought [SPOILER] was [Wesley Crusher]. Something about that adolescent boy hero bildungsroman voice is just too damn much. Mefi friends, is the possibility of Ahsoka Tano and Twi'lek lady worth dealing with this?
posted by moonlight on vermont at 10:31 PM on February 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by moonlight on vermont at 10:31 PM on February 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
This show has brought me more entertainment and joy than any other Star Wars related thing.
I'm more than willing to cut them a little slack. I want to see where they go in the final episode before I pass true judgement.
Also, this [SPOILER] may be related to a future project, so it might serve a much larger purpose.
Have faith. May the Force be with you, always.
posted by Fizz at 12:12 AM on February 28, 2018 [4 favorites]
I'm more than willing to cut them a little slack. I want to see where they go in the final episode before I pass true judgement.
Also, this [SPOILER] may be related to a future project, so it might serve a much larger purpose.
Have faith. May the Force be with you, always.
posted by Fizz at 12:12 AM on February 28, 2018 [4 favorites]
IT'S A [SPOILER]!
posted by PenDevil at 1:14 AM on February 28, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by PenDevil at 1:14 AM on February 28, 2018 [3 favorites]
Doesn't the fact that they have FTL, as well as the ability to return to planets without finding everyone they know to be dead for centuries, mean they already have [SPOILER]?
posted by sexyrobot at 4:00 AM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by sexyrobot at 4:00 AM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
All I know is that traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your [SPOILER] real quick, wouldn't it?
posted by valkane at 4:13 AM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by valkane at 4:13 AM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
A cup o' [SPOILER] and a slice of [SPOILER], suits Aunt [SPOILER] and that suits me.
posted by biffa at 5:31 AM on February 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by biffa at 5:31 AM on February 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
jason_steakums: Really we've been dancing around the edges of the possibility of [SPOILER] since Empire
How do you figure?
posted by He Is Only The Imposter at 6:16 AM on February 28, 2018
How do you figure?
posted by He Is Only The Imposter at 6:16 AM on February 28, 2018
I don't like [SPOILER]. It’s coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
posted by entropicamericana at 6:22 AM on February 28, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 6:22 AM on February 28, 2018 [6 favorites]
Ok anyone that reads this far down without recognising the spoiler risk is asking for it. As there's no real way to disguise it at this point be warned:
sexyrobot: FTL only implies SPOILER under our laws of physics. Maybe hyperspace is just careful about not having SPOILER (and has unattractive physics as a result)
posted by edd at 7:12 AM on February 28, 2018
sexyrobot: FTL only implies SPOILER under our laws of physics. Maybe hyperspace is just careful about not having SPOILER (and has unattractive physics as a result)
posted by edd at 7:12 AM on February 28, 2018
How do you figure?
ESB established that Jedi could see the future and the past. And this is just like, ok, in very very particular circumstances, Jedi can take it a step further and [HELLO THERE].
posted by jason_steakums at 7:36 AM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
ESB established that Jedi could see the future and the past. And this is just like, ok, in very very particular circumstances, Jedi can take it a step further and [HELLO THERE].
posted by jason_steakums at 7:36 AM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
"...We seem to be made to [SPOILER]."
posted by Smart Dalek at 7:40 AM on February 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Smart Dalek at 7:40 AM on February 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
No! No! [SPOILER]s not true! [SPOILER]'s impossible!
Search your feelings; you know it to be true!
Noooooooooooooo!
posted by kokaku at 8:50 AM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
Search your feelings; you know it to be true!
Noooooooooooooo!
posted by kokaku at 8:50 AM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
All a'y'all who are saying you're done with Star Wars because of [SPOILER] even though you came back after green- screen-everything-boss-surrounded-by-yes-men-racist-alien-party numbers 1 through 3 realize that this show is canon, but canon to the degree that the ship from Rebels was on screen for 1.7s of Rogue One. Which makes it as canon as the idea that Star Wars and Star Trek are the same universe because JJ put an R2 in the space debris in his Star Trek reboot.
But it was more than just the shot of the Ghost which could be easily ignored. Hera is also called over the Yavin P.A. system and Chopper can be seen on screen. One shot is an Easter egg. Three call outs is a deliberate attempt to place the show in canon.
posted by dances with hamsters at 6:01 PM on February 28, 2018
But it was more than just the shot of the Ghost which could be easily ignored. Hera is also called over the Yavin P.A. system and Chopper can be seen on screen. One shot is an Easter egg. Three call outs is a deliberate attempt to place the show in canon.
posted by dances with hamsters at 6:01 PM on February 28, 2018
The show IS Canon.
Supposedly, after Disney bought Star Wars and had the "Great Purge" that banished all non-film products to "Legends" status, all the film, TV an books are now Canon.
posted by Paladin1138 at 6:19 PM on February 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
Supposedly, after Disney bought Star Wars and had the "Great Purge" that banished all non-film products to "Legends" status, all the film, TV an books are now Canon.
posted by Paladin1138 at 6:19 PM on February 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
Always in motion, the SPOILER is.
posted by happyroach at 10:49 PM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by happyroach at 10:49 PM on February 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
[SPOILER]: A New Hope
posted by New Frontier at 10:43 AM on March 1, 2018
posted by New Frontier at 10:43 AM on March 1, 2018
But it was more than just the shot of the Ghost which could be easily ignored. Hera is also called over the Yavin P.A. system and Chopper can be seen on screen. One shot is an Easter egg. Three call outs is a deliberate attempt to place the show in canon.
But that's ALL we'll ever get - a shout out, a name added during ADR, a ship or a droid added by the effects team. There's never going to be a Star Wars live action movie starring Hera or Sabine or Zeb (jesus I just typed "Wrex" instead of "Zeb" and now I want a cranky Krogan as part of a rebel crew so, so bad). Like how we know that the Chuck Wendig books are canon and they deal with the teenaged version of Greg Grunberg's character from the new trilogy, but do you really think it's ever going to be referred to in the movies? And if so, in anything more in depth than, "I've seen something like this before" wink and nod?
posted by thecjm at 1:33 PM on March 4, 2018
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