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2018 E3 Recap. All the major announcements made at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in one convenient place. Trailers, announcements, etc.
posted by Fizz (83 comments total) 12 users marked this as a favorite
 
SUPER. SMASH. BROS. ULTIMATE.

*drops mic*
posted by Fizz at 4:13 PM on June 12


COUNTRY ROOOOADS TAKE ME HOOOME

TO THE PLAAAACE I BELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
posted by poffin boffin at 4:17 PM on June 12 [8 favorites]


I broke my "no preorders" rule implemented after Batman: Arkham Knight on PC for Spiderman and Dragon Quest 11, although I wish we were getting the 3DS version of DQ.
posted by T.D. Strange at 4:17 PM on June 12


as a special act of kindness and personal restraint in these trying times i will not meme this thread the heck up.
posted by poffin boffin at 4:18 PM on June 12 [10 favorites]




More Death Stranding weirdness as well.
posted by Fizz at 4:25 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


I swear, whoever CD Project gets to cut their trailers isn't being paid enough.

Beyond that, though... I feel like AAA publishers are starting to eye the next gen. A dearth of really ambitious new stuff with a release date in the next 18 months.
posted by selfnoise at 4:25 PM on June 12 [3 favorites]


I have 37 Kingdom Hearts games to catch up on to have any idea what's going on in the next one, I guess. The original Fallout 76 info seemed a little promising but my expectations have fallen since--the setup seems to beg for griefing and I suck at those kinds of games so I'd only even be considering it to play with friends. But as little as it was, I'm excited for Starfield and so, so happy to see even a mention of Elder Scrolls 6.

What I noticed most this year was how many games where I was like "woo I am so excited to see someone streaming this". I honestly can't figure out if that's a good or a bad thing for gaming as an industry.
posted by Sequence at 4:27 PM on June 12


Beyond that, though... I feel like AAA publishers are starting to eye the next gen.

Microsoft’s next-generation Xbox reportedly arriving in 2020. [The Verge]
Microsoft is reportedly planning to launch its next-generation Xbox console in 2020. While Xbox chief Phil Spencer acknowledged this week that the software giant is “deep into architecturing the next Xbox consoles,” Brad Sams at Thurrott.com reports that the next-gen Xbox will arrive in 2020. Microsoft is reportedly working on a “family of devices” under the Scarlett codename, which would also align closely to Spencer’s mention of Xbox “consoles” and not a single console.
posted by Fizz at 4:27 PM on June 12 [1 favorite]


I don't ever want Death Stranding to make sense. I want to finish the game as confused as I was the moment I saw the first trailer.
posted by poffin boffin at 4:27 PM on June 12 [13 favorites]


COUNTRY ROOOOADS TAKE ME HOOOME

TO THE PLAAAACE I BELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG


I feel extremely bad for the people that are excited about Fallout 76 but don't understand it's an always-online competitive multiplayer survival game in the style of Ark or Rust. It's probably possible to get further away from the Fallout's origins as a single-player isometric turn-based story-driven CRPG, but I have a hard time seeing how.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 4:28 PM on June 12 [11 favorites]


Now that I've written that out and read it, I'm realizing 2020 isn't super far away. Holy shit. Ugh, I'm old.
posted by Fizz at 4:29 PM on June 12 [1 favorite]


Highrockhighrockhighrockreturntodaggerfallhighrockhighrock wheee hee hee hee
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 4:29 PM on June 12 [3 favorites]


I mean don’t get me wrong- I wanted Argonia. But swooshy Bretons and stupid highjinks! ES6 cannot drop soon enough.
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 4:31 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


Sable looks gorgeous… strong art direction in Ooblets too. Devil May Cry 5! Sekiro! I might have to buy a console or a slightly less antiquated computer.
posted by rodlymight at 4:31 PM on June 12


an always-online competitive multiplayer survival game in the style of Ark or Rust

oh yeah i'm definitely super excited to have everything i worked so hard to build get destroyed by 12 year old teabagging griefers who send me psn messages after to inform me "LOL YOUR GAY"
posted by poffin boffin at 4:33 PM on June 12 [16 favorites]


oh yeah i'm definitely super excited to have everything i worked so hard to build get destroyed by 12 year old teabagging griefers who send me psn messages after to inform me "LOL YOUR GAY"

This is why I will probably not be buying this game. It's also why I avoid all Battle Royale/online gaming games. Even Overwatch is something I avoid online game play for. I'll exclusively play against AI with microphone/chat disabled.

I hate the online gaming community and I'd rather live inside of a world playing a story/campaign or a contained RPG like Dishonored 2, Prey, RE7, etc. Fuck that online griefing noise.
posted by Fizz at 4:38 PM on June 12 [21 favorites]


So disappointed by fallout multiplayer- and I say that as someone who plays ESO
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 4:38 PM on June 12 [4 favorites]


2020 will be 7 years from the launch of the current generation, however, which seems fairly typical.
posted by thefoxgod at 4:38 PM on June 12 [1 favorite]


ESO has mostly avoided the worst of the online jerk squad so it is possible that Bethesda can take the lessons learned there and put it in 76 but the kind of fans who like mushroom elves the game and the kind of people who like apocoyplse yee ha! Might make moderation for a fallout game more difficult. Mind you I’m in both camps so *shrug*
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 4:40 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


*starts skimming the list*

I dunno. I already get Bravery Network emails, and I'll probably get Sable on a sale. Nothing much is jumping out at me.

*more list*

There is.. some cool VR stuff. I just graduated, got a job, maybe it's time to finally get a VR-capable rig. Wish there was more MacOS stuff.

*more list*

FFXIV x Monster Hunter?!?!?!?!??!?!11111 I.. NO. I gave up on both of those because of shitty female representation and also I never had time to play cos of school. But I'm still not going back.

*more list*

welp guess I'm buying a PS4 for Beam Saber.
posted by curious nu at 4:40 PM on June 12


NO YOU BUY A PS4 FOR ZERO DAWN
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 4:43 PM on June 12 [10 favorites]


Oh also if you are underwhelmed by the E3 lineup may I suggest Yoku's Island Express? It's out now and is a really charming, fun game.
posted by selfnoise at 4:44 PM on June 12


NO YOU BUY A PS4 FOR ZERO DAWN

Beam Saber & Tetris Effect.

And probably the DQ Minecraft, I know it got ported at some point recently too but if I already have the PS4...
posted by curious nu at 4:45 PM on June 12


Beyond that, though... I feel like AAA publishers are starting to eye the next gen.

Predicting that this will finally be the generation that due to their PC-esque guts consoles go fully backwards compatible. The PS5 will play all PS4 games. The XBox 2 will play all XBox one games. But it will go both ways at least one generation back - your PS5 game will also work on PS4 Pro with less bells and whistles but not on a PS4
posted by thecjm at 4:46 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


Reports coming in from people that have seen more than just the trailer for Cyberpunk 2077 are pretty impressive: gameinformer, John Linneman of Digital Foundry
posted by juv3nal at 4:50 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


oh yeah i'm definitely super excited to have everything i worked so hard to build get destroyed by 12 year old teabagging griefers who send me psn messages after to inform me "LOL YOUR GAY"

I mean, yeah, a thousand percent. But if they can set it up to keep griefing low enough, the idea of going through Fallout with biscotti like it was Borderlands...

Howard said that eventually there would be private servers with mods. If nothing else, I'll pick it up then.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 4:50 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


One thing I wonder... Given the slow progress recently on the GPU front (Nvidia basically said not to wait up for new cards), how long is it going to take until the platform holders produce a machine that really feels like a leap forward from the One X but can be sold for say, $400? This is the flip side of doing "Pro" iterations... It becomes harder to then move the needle a full generational blip.
posted by selfnoise at 4:53 PM on June 12


my current preorders are for ac odyssey and sottr; sitting lonesome in my cart of indecision is F76; waiting for a release date to preorder are beyond good & evil 2, skull & bones, and ghost of tsushima.

i assume norman reedus' jar baby will show up at my home unannounced to personally hand me my copy of death stranding whenever it is released into the world.
posted by poffin boffin at 4:55 PM on June 12 [3 favorites]


i assume norman reedus' jar baby will show up at my home unannounced to personally hand me my copy of death stranding whenever it is released into the world.

The last level of the game, you have to fight the baby you've carried. It's angry as hell and shoots lightening, essentially an embryo pokemon battle.
posted by Fizz at 5:16 PM on June 12 [1 favorite]


no you guys have it all wrong, the baby will emerge from your esophagus and give you a thumbs up. he doesn't hand you anything. congratulations u now have a weird esophagus baby to take care of. that's it. that's the whole game.
posted by juv3nal at 5:19 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


how delicious is this baby, is it a cool ranch baby?
posted by poffin boffin at 5:22 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


the true baby was the friends you ate along the way
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 5:23 PM on June 12 [6 favorites]


We're not talking enough about Super Smash Ultimate and how awesome that game is going to be. Can it just be December already!?!?
posted by Fizz at 5:38 PM on June 12


There is a lot of new information about Fallout 76 in this NoClip Documentary that just released.

Looks like there will be ~24 players per server (minimizing the risk of griefers) and some of the world mechanics seem pretty fascinating. How nuclear launches change the map seems really cool. Seriously check it out the documentary if you are at all interested in picking up Fallout 76.
posted by Groundhog Week at 5:44 PM on June 12 [4 favorites]


We're not talking enough about Super Smash Ultimate and how awesome that game is going to be. Can it just be December already!?!?

I will definitely be buying a copy so my kids can enjoy Smash the way my friends and I enjoyed Melee and Brawl back in the day. They've already said to temper your expectations regarding additional fighters, but there is one more fighter I'd really like to see, just to round everything out: Steve from Minecraft.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 5:53 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


Hey now that skyrims in switch could the Dragonborn be a fighter in smash?
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 6:01 PM on June 12


SUPER. SMASH. BROS. ULTIMATE.
EVERYONE. IS. HERE.
What? No Cuphead?
posted by oneswellfoop at 6:02 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


[ in a very whiny, sulky voice ] I don't wanna rocket ship or a mech I want to see what happens to DORIAN when the QUNARI invade TEVINTER and start fucking shit up, especially because the Divine (who is CASSANDRA of course) will get really mad and CULLEN will come out of retirement and we'll be able to have MABARI party members again.
posted by seanmpuckett at 6:34 PM on June 12 [7 favorites]


It's probably possible to get further away from the Fallout's origins as a single-player isometric turn-based story-driven CRPG, but I have a hard time seeing how.

I hear you. As a universe, Fallout has always been somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but something about being able to nuke other settlements willy-nilly takes things too far for me. Not only is it cartoonish, but it feels morally a bit icky. Now, I appreciate how the series has always let you play your way, including being downright evil. Those original games let you shoot kids, for God's sake. But doing so made everyone hate you. And setting off the nuke in Megaton in FO3 was presented as a major choice, one with consequences for both the world and your character's standing. Here, it seems like a free-for-all, just by nature of the multiplayer experience. The universe is becoming (has become?) a satire of itself. It's just the diluation that comes with major commercialization, I know. But a small part of me does worry that it can happen in this case because the threat of nuclear war is becoming less real, less serious, to us.

All that said, the noclip documentary Groundhog Week posted is definitely making me more interested in the game--I'm watching it now, and it's a fascinating look at how game development works, so thanks for that.

But color me skeptical, especially because some of these other games look much more interesting by comparison.

Sony wins the show for me: Death Stranding looks like a real (if bonkers) work of art, and I'm excited about Ghost of Tsushima, which could be gorgeous tribute to samurai movies. Cyberpunk 2077 sounds amazing, too, especially with some sense of what the gameplay is actually like.

I'm curious what folks thought of the Last of Us II footage, considering the recent FPP discussion about it. I'm pretty impressed, though I have some misgivings. I'm digging the queer representation in the trailer, but also wary of who that same sex kiss is for, considering E3's history of "booth babes." The violence is maybe my bigger issue--though the original was pretty gory, this still seems punishingly brutal. I'm not sure this is a problem that's unique to Last of Us, though. I feel like the medium at large is at an inflection point--the graphics are so realistic now that the carnage is becoming more and more unsettling. While games are maturing, somewhat, as a storytelling mode, I think there's still tons of work to be done in how it presents and thinks about what they're asking their players to look at and participate in.
posted by cudzoo at 6:48 PM on June 12


Those original games let you shoot kids, for God's sake. But doing so made everyone hate you

That’s why you let them pickpocket a lit stick of dynamite instead or so I’m told.
posted by rodlymight at 7:25 PM on June 12 [3 favorites]


I'm curious what folks thought of the Last of Us II footage, considering the recent FPP discussion about it. I'm pretty impressed, though I have some misgivings. I'm digging the queer representation in the trailer, but also wary of who that same sex kiss is for, considering E3's history of "booth babes."

Given that Ellie is queer, and given how much attention's been given to the stunning realism of the kiss, I don't have the same wariness. But yeesh, the ultraviolence.
posted by dw at 7:29 PM on June 12 [3 favorites]


I will play Cyberpunk 2077 if you can play literally any other kind of character than a gritty, jaded dude in his 20s with an uneven haircut and some sort of drug habit.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 7:44 PM on June 12 [14 favorites]


games are for the gays now, straights can't play or they go to straight prison, where the jumpsuits are very ugly and unflattering.
posted by poffin boffin at 7:49 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


Also, Hollow Knight was a surprise release for Switch today. It's gorgeous and perfect if you're wanting some metroidvania type of action. Runs perfectly at 60fps.
posted by Fizz at 7:49 PM on June 12 [1 favorite]


games are for the gays now, straights can't play or they go to straight prison, where the jumpsuits are very ugly and unflattering.

I just want a completely fluid and open pairing/perving simulation for every game in the style of Fire Emblem. If I want Pikachu and Solid Snake to hook up, let me make that a thing. If I want Mario and Donkey Kong to be in an intimate and long term relationship, that should be allowed. Just open the flood gates.
posted by Fizz at 7:51 PM on June 12 [1 favorite]


Well,I am extremely geeked out for Last of Us 2, and am eagerly waiting to hear the release date!1
posted by maryrussell at 7:52 PM on June 12


Sony wins the show for me

Same here. Admittedly I'm an unabashed PlayStation fan, but I don't think it's just my bias speaking. Heard elsewhere online some grumbling about how Sony didn't deliver on the "deep dive" they promised, and I guess I can see that. I don't know about y'all, but I feel even more confused about what kind of game Death Stranding will be. I didn't think they'd spoil everything, but I was hoping for a bit more data. Still excited though.

Can't wait for The Last of Us 2, super surprised/excited about Nioh 2 (that'll be a ways off I bet, but still happy to hear it's in the works) and I'm already in on Spider-Man.

How about that Ghost of Tsushima gameplay? That sky, and the leaves... gorgeous.
posted by Krulth at 7:55 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


I think it's way too early to condemn FO76 out of hand, given how little we know. As a person who naturally gravitates toward single-player games, I've been pleasantly surprised by all the co-op mp games that I've enjoyed lately. I'll hold off on pre-ordering until more detail comes out, but given how much I love this IP, it would have to be really bad for me not to jump in.

AC: Odyssey is an immediate preorder and the Yakuza games are coming to PC! Even though I own them all on PS4, I'll be re-buying them on the PC to say thanks to Sega for not giving up on bringing this series to gamers outside Japan.

I'm also excited for The Division 2. A one-to-one map of DC that's 40% bigger than the first game (which I loved for the single-player and PvE content)? That's a preorder for sure. Also it'll be nice to play a game where you're fighting to preserve the country (-really- need this right now).

Last of Us 2 looks enormously depressing. I really don't want to remember Ellie as a murder machine. Wish they had stayed with the same world, but different people.

And my favorite comment re Death Stranding.
posted by longdaysjourney at 8:06 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


Ghost of Tsushima looks gorgeous, and I really want to play it, except that no one used swords like that, or wore hakama like that during the Mongol invasions of the 13th century.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 8:08 PM on June 12


wait, could there be parts of other games that might also be historically inaccurate? how could such perfidy be allowed
posted by poffin boffin at 8:16 PM on June 12 [9 favorites]


Was the Sengoku period not violent enough for the purposes of a Samurai fighting game? It's not like there is a shortage of social upheaval in Japanese history.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 8:22 PM on June 12


AC: Odyssey is an immediate preorder

For the first time since Black Flag, I actually kind of care about an AC game. Now just give us more games like Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War, only the hell with Kratos, give us Hera and let's go wild. More women in games, more people of colour, more gender/sexuality fluidity. Just take my money, but only in this way.
posted by Fizz at 8:28 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


The Star Citizen cinematic footage looks lovely but I'm going to wait for the gameplay tr-hahahahaha...sorry I couldn't finish...
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 8:30 PM on June 12 [4 favorites]


I refuse to acknowledge Kingdom Hearts III until it is actually out, because I have spent way too much of my life in anticipation of this game coming out, and I realized years ago it was. not. sustainable. I will not have a single emotion about this game until it is officially released.

...fuck. I fucked up. I just passingly thought, "Oh, we'll finally get to see what happens to Riku," and had an emotion. Fuck you, inner gay depressed teenage heart.
posted by brook horse at 8:37 PM on June 12 [1 favorite]


Cyberpunk 2077 will have a character creator, as well as male and female options. But it's cyberpunk, you have to have a terrible haircut.
posted by zompist at 8:39 PM on June 12 [11 favorites]


There was a lot of stuff I'm interested in: Shadows Die Twice, Cyberpunk 2077, the new (not quite) Armored Core game that might force me to buy a Switch, and provisionally Fallout 76 depending on how they handle essentially everything.

Man, there is a lot of cynical garbage coming out, though. In terms of trends, I was not a huge fan of what was on display this year.
posted by codacorolla at 8:43 PM on June 12


But it's cyberpunk, you have to have a terrible haircut.
u can pry my rad purple fauxhawk with LED highlights from my cold dead cyberhands
posted by juv3nal at 8:51 PM on June 12 [7 favorites]


I got a Google alert about Spelunky 2 and it was some article about something Derek Yu said on a podcast and the writer ended the piece all "Maybe he'll announce more during E3!" Alas.
posted by edeezy at 8:58 PM on June 12


If I was the lead for a Fallout game (I can only dream) it would be a solo survival rogue-like game, maybe a bit reliant on procedural world generation like Sunless Sea or FTL. You are a vault survivor fleeing a vault that mysteriously failed. There isn't a predefined objective initially other than just survival - you need food, water, medicine, weapons, shelter from the cold, a safe place to sleep with low radiation, clothes.

Your only companion is your dog, just the two of you against the world, the bleak, desolate but still beautiful remnants of a once great civilization.

The multiplayer bit would be incorporated in an ambient way - you never physically meet another player, but the collective actions of all players in the world alter the landscape in a procedural way in your single player game. A bit like the Dark Souls bloodstains (which serve to indicate how other players perished). The rise of influence of various factions and their borders will change depending on player activity. The rise and fall of various wild threats. The change in "security level" (like EVE online) - if an area is heavily played it becomes safer but the loot you find there also decreases in value.

This creates a kind of shared experience that is broadly similar in the large brush strokes but different at the micro level. There would be a kind of shared mapping experience as players try to explore and document the dark areas of the map for others to use. But because of the procedural generation, every person's game map is a bit different, and the map even changes slowly over time. This kind of mimics the effect of, say, someone finding an old treasure map, and finding it doesn't quite line up with what they're seeing in the world, and the older the map is, the less reliable it is. You think you find the lighthouse over the hill, but it's not there. Someone online says there's an entrance to a cave in that canyon, but you find the entrances to two different caves, one that others have not mentioned before. Maybe they missed it? What's inside? You're in a desert and looking for water, and the maps say there's an oasis to the north. But how far north? You should be there by now. Maybe you passed it in the sandstorm. Should you double back?
posted by xdvesper at 9:03 PM on June 12 [15 favorites]


Ah, so this is why Mario was waiting in line outside of The Mayan at 5:45am. There was a never-ending stream of gamers grabbing frappucinos at work this morning, most with the raggedy look of someone who has slept the night on the cold, hard sidewalks of DTLA. I asked all of them about Jenny Lewis and Fred Savage and Caaaalifooooooornn-YA but nobody knew anything about a magic flute. =(
posted by carsonb at 9:23 PM on June 12 [1 favorite]


something about being able to nuke other settlements willy-nilly takes things too far for me

It looks like in game-logic you're firing a nuke to seal the portal from whence Bad Critters spawn? And in player-logic you probably shouldn't want to nuke someone else's base because even if you kill them they'll just respawn right in the middle of the good loot and materials exposed by the nuking?
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 9:50 PM on June 12


Yeah, I thought from the E3 presentation that it was going to be "nuke other player settlements" but it looks like player settlements are actually less concrete than that and can be fixed relatively easily if damaged, and the nuke is really for totally other stuff? I still think I'm going to suck at Fallout 76, but friends have tentatively gotten me into the idea that we can play together even if I'm bad, and I do think exploring the map with other people could be fun. I'm still not happy that it has PvP at all and I'm never going to be any good at shooters, but for what Fallout 76 is, that making-of has made me slightly more optimistic that at least I'll be able to play it a little.
posted by Sequence at 10:01 PM on June 12


For the first time since Black Flag, I actually kind of care about an AC game.

pls play origins it is so good
posted by poffin boffin at 10:18 PM on June 12 [2 favorites]


pls play origins it is so good

Can ditto. It's super good unless your main attraction to Black Flag was the boat stuff. There's some of that, but not a lot.
posted by juv3nal at 10:59 PM on June 12


No Animal Crossing for the Switch, no E3.
posted by Wordshore at 4:32 AM on June 13 [3 favorites]


Yes, it's good to see beautiful young women smooching because representation, but I'll jump up and cheer when we see a male player protagonist passionately kissing a male romantic interest on a 200' screen at E3. Because misogynistic little man babies who get a chubby when pretty girls kiss but threaten to boycott an entire studio when a man kisses a man can just go to straight to hell.
posted by seanmpuckett at 5:06 AM on June 13 [11 favorites]


Oh trust me, they're threatening to boycott over this too.
posted by selfnoise at 5:32 AM on June 13 [7 favorites]




Yessss, Mr. Moonlight and I were talking about this, because some kind person posted the same thing last year. Thanks!
posted by Ms. Moonlight at 8:51 AM on June 13


Oh trust me, they're threatening to boycott over this too.

I’m sure Sony & Naughty Dog will be crying into the piles of money they’re going to make from TLOU2 over that.
posted by pharm at 10:55 AM on June 13




Now that I've written that out and read it, I'm realizing 2020 isn't super far away. Holy shit.

2020 cannot arrive soon enough.
posted by chortly at 12:42 PM on June 13 [1 favorite]


There's a documentary from No-Clip about FO76's development that clears up a few things. It's long, though.

If you don't have time to watch the doc, you can read a very detailed summary of its major points here. I wish the mp was entirely coop (it's not), but I'm still going to get this.
posted by longdaysjourney at 5:48 PM on June 13 [1 favorite]


The whole "it's really hard to get a nuke so people won't waste them in griefing" thing is so fucking naive, good lord.
posted by poffin boffin at 9:55 AM on June 14 [2 favorites]


I'm still not entirely clear on how matchmaking works for this. Servers of ~40 people seem too small to be truly persistent. Like, if I get crap luck and I'm put into a server with a bunch of toxic /v/ types, then does that mean that my character is just permanently fucked? If I only realize that after 5 hours into a 40 hour campaign, then does that mean that I have to reroll on a new server, or put up with intentionally trollish compatriots? 40 person servers would make a lot more sense for a game that took place over 1 or 2 hours, like PUBG, instead of one that's meant to essentially be a single player Fallout in terms of quest content.

I was also sort of confused about the radiant quests. They mentioned a farm being under assault from Super Mutants (ugh... set that aside for the time being), but like... who's farm? Is the assumption here that another player would radio beacon for help, or are there actually some sort of NPCs out there (Ghouls, maybe)?

Altogether, though, the details in the doc are promising. It seems better than 'multi-player Fallout' seemed at first.
posted by codacorolla at 12:10 PM on June 14


No one here mentioned Devolver Digital??
posted by floatboth at 1:24 PM on June 14 [1 favorite]


The whole "it's really hard to get a nuke so people won't waste them in griefing" thing is so fucking naive, good lord.

So obvs everyone is in WAIT AND SEE mode but from the way they're talking they might not be great for griefing? Like, yeah, you die, but then you just respawn, and some of your stuff gets busted but all that means is you have to walk up to it and push the REPAIR button?

And it sounds like you have some warning before a nuke hits, so if you're targeted you can just... log out, and your house goes with you and you and your house stay unharmed, and then you log back in.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 2:05 PM on June 14


I'm still not entirely clear on how matchmaking works for this. Servers of ~40 people seem too small to be truly persistent. Like, if I get crap luck and I'm put into a server with a bunch of toxic /v/ types, then does that mean that my character is just permanently fucked? If I only realize that after 5 hours into a 40 hour campaign, then does that mean that I have to reroll on a new server, or put up with intentionally trollish compatriots? 40 person servers would make a lot more sense for a game that took place over 1 or 2 hours, like PUBG, instead of one that's meant to essentially be a single player Fallout in terms of quest content.


Todd Howard mentioned that you won't even see a server list, so I don't think you will persist on a particular server across different play times. I suspect that it'll just shove you into the first available server where the population is in some x to y level range. This also means that if Bethesda is willing to track the accounts of griefers, they can just all be shoved into the same server where they can kill each other and leave the rest of us in peace on other servers. That's a big if though, considering that this is the first game of this type Bethesda is releasing (Not counting ESO because that game has specific pvp zones and the different factions are literally at war, so fighting is expected).

I wonder if there will be instanced areas on the map. Making major points on the main questline instanced will also help fight griefing in areas players are likely to be. Perhaps that idea is too MMOish though.
posted by Groundhog Week at 5:34 PM on June 14


New Fire Emblem looks interesting, and I hope Ciri is in Cyberpunk 2077 even though she probably wouldn't be playable.

Had been planning on skipping the Switch version of Wolfenstein (stupid >10gb mandatory download even for cartridge version) this summer but after the head of Bethesda said "Fuck Nazis, on every platform" this week, man, that just made my day so much. Probably gonna buy the Switch edition of Wolfenstein after all so I can shank nazis during my lunch hour when needed. Looking forward to hijacking the mecha-nazis in the upcoming game too!
posted by marshmallow kitty at 7:25 PM on June 14


No third person view in Cyberpunk has me a little sad.
posted by inpHilltr8r at 11:33 PM on June 14 [1 favorite]


Hyped for Octopath Traveler. This and Dragon Quest are sure purchases for me.

I think Fallout 76 may not really be for me, especially after Fallout 4, which is pretty sad considering my feelings for the series.
posted by ersatz at 9:30 AM on June 16 [1 favorite]


Kind of a letdown conf. Especially for switch owners.

Q2: Meh
Q3: Octopath Traveller, Valkyria
Q4: Smash Bros, Tunic Killer Queen?, My Hero One's Justice?
Q1 2019: Fire Emblem

All the stuff folks are excited about doesn't have a release date, sadly. But at least I'll catch up on games.
posted by pwnguin at 9:32 PM on June 17


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