The director of Netflix's Ibiza has never even been to Ibiza
June 29, 2018 7:08 AM Subscribe
Aptly named Ibiza, the film follows three American girls (who struggle to pronounce Ibiza correctly the entire film) as they travel to everyone's favourite clubbing paradise and if luke-warm rom-coms are your thing, then you're in luck. The lead character falls in love with an EDM DJ and absolute hilarity ensues (it doesn't).
We spoke to the director Alex Richanbach about how he made the film, his influences and his take on glamourising drugs. This is perhaps the most awkward interview we've ever done.
Damn. I thought the movie was garbage and turned it off halfway through. Doesn't change the fact that that interview is only awkward because the interviewer is an asshole.
posted by haileris23 at 7:13 AM on June 29, 2018 [7 favorites]
posted by haileris23 at 7:13 AM on June 29, 2018 [7 favorites]
It’s a very spiritual place and it’s a place where people have founded a lot of great memories. Through watching the film it felt like a lot of that essence had been lost. I think you have to have seen the island and experienced it to really get it.
Jesus Christ, this is a good way to get your website blacklisted from publicists.
posted by Think_Long at 7:28 AM on June 29, 2018 [7 favorites]
Jesus Christ, this is a good way to get your website blacklisted from publicists.
posted by Think_Long at 7:28 AM on June 29, 2018 [7 favorites]
that interview is only awkward because the interviewer is an asshole
Why do you think he's an asshole? Reporters ask questions, journalism is investigative, and all I see is a reporter trying to get some answers about questions of interest.
The drug thing is real, people are really dying, but the director had nothing thoughtful to say about the potential influence on viewers of their portrayal of dangerous drug use. And when you make a film set in a culture, it's good practice to work with that culture directly, and it's reasonable to ask what sorts of research were done to create the representation, but this director basically admits he used stereotypes rather than engaging with the subject. It's awkward because the reporter forces the director to disclose that he didn't do any research whatsoever.
posted by epanalepsis at 7:30 AM on June 29, 2018 [13 favorites]
Why do you think he's an asshole? Reporters ask questions, journalism is investigative, and all I see is a reporter trying to get some answers about questions of interest.
The drug thing is real, people are really dying, but the director had nothing thoughtful to say about the potential influence on viewers of their portrayal of dangerous drug use. And when you make a film set in a culture, it's good practice to work with that culture directly, and it's reasonable to ask what sorts of research were done to create the representation, but this director basically admits he used stereotypes rather than engaging with the subject. It's awkward because the reporter forces the director to disclose that he didn't do any research whatsoever.
posted by epanalepsis at 7:30 AM on June 29, 2018 [13 favorites]
This interview is amazing. You made a movie about Ibiza, but did you know that I spend every summer in Ibiza on E listening to jungle-house-grindcore-dance, which by the way is the real music they listen to on Ibiza, you know nothing about Ibiza and your thoughtless romcom failed to be a documentary about my favorite place, Ibiza.
posted by dis_integration at 7:30 AM on June 29, 2018 [81 favorites]
posted by dis_integration at 7:30 AM on June 29, 2018 [81 favorites]
I'm bummed (but not shocked) to hear the movie is bad. I really like Gillian Jacobs and the cast seemed promising.
I AM shocked by how much of a jerk the interviewer was, and how tone-deaf the introduction paragraph is given how badly mixmag comes off here:
"We spoke to the director Alex Richanbach about how he made the film, his influences and his take on glamourising drugs. This is perhaps the most awkward interview we've ever done. We'll let you read for yourself how it went. See you on the island."
I am all for holding the media to task, but this was just sanctimony and axe grinding.
posted by seemoorglass at 7:31 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
I AM shocked by how much of a jerk the interviewer was, and how tone-deaf the introduction paragraph is given how badly mixmag comes off here:
"We spoke to the director Alex Richanbach about how he made the film, his influences and his take on glamourising drugs. This is perhaps the most awkward interview we've ever done. We'll let you read for yourself how it went. See you on the island."
I am all for holding the media to task, but this was just sanctimony and axe grinding.
posted by seemoorglass at 7:31 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
EDM, as you say, is the main focus of the soundtrack but I reckon 70% of the island’s main musical output swings towards underground house and techno now. It’s moving away from that culture slightly. Did you think about including underground music or even different styles of music. Ibiza isn’t as big on EDM as it was say five years ago.
If this isn't a self-parody of an EDM fan I don't know what is.
posted by Think_Long at 7:31 AM on June 29, 2018 [80 favorites]
If this isn't a self-parody of an EDM fan I don't know what is.
posted by Think_Long at 7:31 AM on June 29, 2018 [80 favorites]
The interview makes it clear what type of person the interviewee is (at least to me).
posted by parki at 7:32 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by parki at 7:32 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
He’s an asshole because he made his point the first time he asked whether the director had ever been to Ibiza.
And then he comes off as ever more eye-rolley every time he talks about the spirituality of Ibiza, or nitpicking different genres of music, like what’s currently hot there
posted by supercres at 7:33 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
And then he comes off as ever more eye-rolley every time he talks about the spirituality of Ibiza, or nitpicking different genres of music, like what’s currently hot there
posted by supercres at 7:33 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
three American girls (who struggle to pronounce Ibiza correctly the entire film)
To be fair, it’s only in recent years that British DJs and tourists have even been attempting to pronounce Ibiza “correctly”. Most Brits (and I assume the interviewer is one) still go with “eye beef-a”, rather than “ee-bee-tha”
posted by rh at 7:34 AM on June 29, 2018
To be fair, it’s only in recent years that British DJs and tourists have even been attempting to pronounce Ibiza “correctly”. Most Brits (and I assume the interviewer is one) still go with “eye beef-a”, rather than “ee-bee-tha”
posted by rh at 7:34 AM on June 29, 2018
What's that line about "he's a stupid person's idea of a smart person?" This would be the shallow person's idea of a deep, hard-hitting interview.
posted by clawsoon at 7:35 AM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
posted by clawsoon at 7:35 AM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
I saw that movie. It was ridiculous. I want my 90 minutes back.
posted by TreeHugger at 7:41 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by TreeHugger at 7:41 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
We're not going to Ibiza
Not back to the island
We're not going to Ibiza
We're not gonna have a party
In the Mediterranean Sea
(though technically Croatia does have the Med)
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 7:42 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Not back to the island
We're not going to Ibiza
We're not gonna have a party
In the Mediterranean Sea
(though technically Croatia does have the Med)
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 7:42 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
actually, the interviewer's on to something - i've done further research on this question and discovered that stanley kubrick had never been to outer space and peter jackson has never been to middle-earth
this has all the trappings of a MASSIVE coverup
posted by pyramid termite at 7:43 AM on June 29, 2018 [56 favorites]
this has all the trappings of a MASSIVE coverup
posted by pyramid termite at 7:43 AM on June 29, 2018 [56 favorites]
The movie's not bad, it's atrocious. I lasted about 18 minutes and congratulated myself for making it that far. Dreadful, dreadful stuff.
posted by dobbs at 7:52 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by dobbs at 7:52 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
Aren’t journalists supposed keep the editorializing out of the interview process? I feel like that’s been a standard of journalism for awhile...leading a question with opinion-based statements like “Ibiza is a spiritual place” seems super unprofessional, no?
posted by Doleful Creature at 7:58 AM on June 29, 2018
posted by Doleful Creature at 7:58 AM on June 29, 2018
I can't wait for this guy to nail George Lucas over the fact that he's never been to Tatooine.
posted by NotMyselfRightNow at 8:00 AM on June 29, 2018 [9 favorites]
posted by NotMyselfRightNow at 8:00 AM on June 29, 2018 [9 favorites]
Aren’t journalists supposed keep the editorializing out of the interview process? I feel like that’s been a standard of journalism for awhile...leading a question with opinion-based statements like “Ibiza is a spiritual place” seems super unprofessional, no?
Entertainment journalism is a different beast, especially these press junket interviews. What people really want out of this isn't "Let's have a neutral, facts-based conversation about the ins and outs of filmmaking," but more of a loosey-goosey "Hey, let's have a fun convo with our best bud Gillian Jacobs and this guy who made a movie."
posted by Etrigan at 8:02 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
Entertainment journalism is a different beast, especially these press junket interviews. What people really want out of this isn't "Let's have a neutral, facts-based conversation about the ins and outs of filmmaking," but more of a loosey-goosey "Hey, let's have a fun convo with our best bud Gillian Jacobs and this guy who made a movie."
posted by Etrigan at 8:02 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
It doesn't really strike me as nitpicking genres. It's like if you made a movie about Motown and all of the characters pronounced it as Mootown, and you shot it in Alberta, and you glorified abusive managers, and your soundtrack included a remix of The Crocodile Hop. Even if it's a comedy, I think a Motown aficionado would probably take exception.
posted by codacorolla at 8:02 AM on June 29, 2018 [30 favorites]
posted by codacorolla at 8:02 AM on June 29, 2018 [30 favorites]
actually, the interviewer's on to something - i've done further research on this question and discovered that stanley kubrick had never been to outer space and peter jackson has never been to middle-earth
I can't wait for this guy to nail George Lucas over the fact that he's never been to Tatooine.
I have zero dogs in this hunt, but these are two places that don't exist and one that only a handful of humans have ever visited.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 8:11 AM on June 29, 2018 [14 favorites]
I can't wait for this guy to nail George Lucas over the fact that he's never been to Tatooine.
I have zero dogs in this hunt, but these are two places that don't exist and one that only a handful of humans have ever visited.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 8:11 AM on June 29, 2018 [14 favorites]
EDM stands for Electronic Dance Music, which FFS includes all, uh, electronic dance music. House is EDM. Old-school jungle is EDM. Kraftwerk is EDM.
If you're going to give a specific flavor of music a title, make it *@^%#@*^@ descriptive and specific, like "tribal noodly blip house" or "vaporwave" not "music that is electronic."
posted by grumpybear69 at 8:12 AM on June 29, 2018 [7 favorites]
If you're going to give a specific flavor of music a title, make it *@^%#@*^@ descriptive and specific, like "tribal noodly blip house" or "vaporwave" not "music that is electronic."
posted by grumpybear69 at 8:12 AM on June 29, 2018 [7 favorites]
It's like if you made a movie about Motown and all of the characters pronounced it as Mootown
It's not at all like that. It's exactly like if you made a movie about Americans visiting somewhere who keep calling it Moscow instead of Moskva, or Munich instead of Muenchen, or Japan instead of Nihon.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 8:17 AM on June 29, 2018 [18 favorites]
It's not at all like that. It's exactly like if you made a movie about Americans visiting somewhere who keep calling it Moscow instead of Moskva, or Munich instead of Muenchen, or Japan instead of Nihon.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 8:17 AM on June 29, 2018 [18 favorites]
i'm like 15 seconds in and am frankly not certain the director has ever been to NYC, either. possibly the director was born in some sort of sealed pod and raised solely by film tropes?
posted by halation at 8:18 AM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
posted by halation at 8:18 AM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
I guess the terrible movie is better if you consider that the characters never realize they aren't in Ibiza at all, but in Croatia. The movie is that bad and the characters are that dumb. The romance is probably the dumbest part.
posted by Catblack at 8:20 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by Catblack at 8:20 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
It's like if you made a movie about Motown and all of the characters pronounced it as Mootown
Y'all realize that Paris is not pronounced the way you pronounce it, right. (Unless you pronounce it pa-ree and with the r rolled in the back of your throat.)
posted by fraula at 8:21 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
Y'all realize that Paris is not pronounced the way you pronounce it, right. (Unless you pronounce it pa-ree and with the r rolled in the back of your throat.)
posted by fraula at 8:21 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
Aren’t journalists supposed keep the editorializing out of the interview process?
No, that's historians. Journalists are simply people who have access to a publishing platform.
posted by pompomtom at 8:25 AM on June 29, 2018 [8 favorites]
No, that's historians. Journalists are simply people who have access to a publishing platform.
posted by pompomtom at 8:25 AM on June 29, 2018 [8 favorites]
The interviewer’s self-satisfaction glow continues in the comments to his tweet about his article
posted by senor biggles at 8:27 AM on June 29, 2018
posted by senor biggles at 8:27 AM on June 29, 2018
It sounds like the movie got the interview it deserved, and the interview got the movie it deserved. Made for each other.
posted by clawsoon at 8:30 AM on June 29, 2018 [15 favorites]
posted by clawsoon at 8:30 AM on June 29, 2018 [15 favorites]
This obsession with a crappy party island is the most British thing ever.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 8:35 AM on June 29, 2018 [7 favorites]
posted by Foci for Analysis at 8:35 AM on June 29, 2018 [7 favorites]
Teh director being interviewed seems to go into this as if it's a softball interview about his movie tangentially related to an electronic music scene. Props to him for his silent pauses before giving answers to shut the interrogation down. "I'm not sure i agree with you, but OK." Ok is generally my favorite response to people trying to be mean and nasty to me.
posted by WeekendJen at 8:40 AM on June 29, 2018 [5 favorites]
posted by WeekendJen at 8:40 AM on June 29, 2018 [5 favorites]
Cutting edge journalism, just the key answers:
*long silence* I haven’t been to Ibiza.
*long silence* Yeah that’s correct.
She doesn’t take three ecstasy pills.
*long silence* Well I got to spend a lot of time listening to these massive playlists so I didn’t go deep into albums or anything. Instead I was listening to these multi-hundred song playlists of mixes of artists. I’ve been listening to that for months now I think that you’re seeing a representation of stuff I like in the soundtrack.
*long silence* There’s nothing else I’d like add.
Between trump and reporters like this we need "The Snark Network" All the news that fit to spit.
posted by sammyo at 8:43 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
*long silence* I haven’t been to Ibiza.
*long silence* Yeah that’s correct.
She doesn’t take three ecstasy pills.
*long silence* Well I got to spend a lot of time listening to these massive playlists so I didn’t go deep into albums or anything. Instead I was listening to these multi-hundred song playlists of mixes of artists. I’ve been listening to that for months now I think that you’re seeing a representation of stuff I like in the soundtrack.
*long silence* There’s nothing else I’d like add.
Between trump and reporters like this we need "The Snark Network" All the news that fit to spit.
posted by sammyo at 8:43 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
I'm not terribly into party/road movies, and this movie may not be particularly good even by the low standards of such movies, but boy is that interview shitty. I'm not sure whether "Funster" is trying to make the point that they should have been hired to be a consultant on the movie, or wants to keep reiterating that the director hasn't been to Ibiza for the short-attention-span readers, or maybe I'm attributing to malice what can be explained by sheer stupidity.
posted by Halloween Jack at 8:46 AM on June 29, 2018
posted by Halloween Jack at 8:46 AM on June 29, 2018
So I've never been to Ibiza myself but I thought this interview was great and I'm amazed people here have a problem with it. Some wanker makes a terrible movie titled Ibiza that misses the whole gestalt of Ibiza by virtue of it not being filmed in Ibiza or made by people who know anything about Ibiza. It seems like a reasonable line of questioning, the film is literally titled Ibiza. I agree everyone ends up looking like a jerk in the end, but as the magazine notes this is the "most awkward interview". The only other choice is not to publish it at all.
What's particularly confusing to me is why not just make the same movie but call it Croatia? I mean if you're gonna film it there... Croatia is a fascinating place and perhaps somewhere people would be interested in going to in the future rather than being the tired shell of a place people have been going for 10+ years.
posted by Nelson at 8:47 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
What's particularly confusing to me is why not just make the same movie but call it Croatia? I mean if you're gonna film it there... Croatia is a fascinating place and perhaps somewhere people would be interested in going to in the future rather than being the tired shell of a place people have been going for 10+ years.
posted by Nelson at 8:47 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
Everybody in this interview comes off as a total jerk.
posted by chesty_a_arthur at 8:51 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by chesty_a_arthur at 8:51 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
I prefer the version of this interview in my head:
[Interviewer] But none of the film was actually shot in Ibiza was it? Like none at all?
[Director] No. We intentionally Sweded it.
[Interviewer] Thank you very much.
posted by delfin at 8:52 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
[Interviewer] But none of the film was actually shot in Ibiza was it? Like none at all?
[Director] No. We intentionally Sweded it.
[Interviewer] Thank you very much.
posted by delfin at 8:52 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
What's particularly confusing to me is why not just make the same movie but call it Croatia? I mean if you're gonna film it there...
...because there is no song called I Took A Pill In Croatia, and the demographic Netflix is gunning for is for that reason very unlikely to click on a film so titled when the algorithm surfaces it
posted by halation at 8:54 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
...because there is no song called I Took A Pill In Croatia, and the demographic Netflix is gunning for is for that reason very unlikely to click on a film so titled when the algorithm surfaces it
posted by halation at 8:54 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
the pronunciation issue is actually not as simple as a national language vs english speaking person's pronunciation situation as the examples given here are assuming. primarily because you get people (brit expats usually) insisting that the TH pronunciation is the only correct one. which is, uh, not correct. that's the castellano pronunciation, the local language for all the baleares are various dialects of catalan, it's a little fraught wrt catalan national identity, etc. anyway if you aggressively use the TH pronunciation locals think you're a bit of a git.
i'm pretty sure i know the guy who did the interview so i'll pass on personal opinions of that in case he ends up reading this thread.
posted by poffin boffin at 8:54 AM on June 29, 2018 [14 favorites]
i'm pretty sure i know the guy who did the interview so i'll pass on personal opinions of that in case he ends up reading this thread.
posted by poffin boffin at 8:54 AM on June 29, 2018 [14 favorites]
What's particularly confusing to me is why not just make the same movie but call it Croatia? I mean if you're gonna film it there...
Because then half of the movies and TV shows that are ostensibly set in American cities would have to be called "Toronto" and "Vancouver".
posted by clawsoon at 9:06 AM on June 29, 2018 [33 favorites]
Because then half of the movies and TV shows that are ostensibly set in American cities would have to be called "Toronto" and "Vancouver".
posted by clawsoon at 9:06 AM on June 29, 2018 [33 favorites]
So I've never been to Ibiza myself but I thought this interview was great and I'm amazed people here have a problem with it. Some wanker makes a terrible movie titled Ibiza that misses the whole gestalt of Ibiza by virtue of it not being filmed in Ibiza or made by people who know anything about Ibiza
This is kind of the hilarious problem though. This interviewer claims to truly get the "spirit" of Ibiza, which is apparently a bunch of outsider dudes coming to the island to party? Like, how do the locals on an island that has been populated for some 3,000 years feel about this dude's authenticity claim?
posted by Think_Long at 9:06 AM on June 29, 2018 [36 favorites]
This is kind of the hilarious problem though. This interviewer claims to truly get the "spirit" of Ibiza, which is apparently a bunch of outsider dudes coming to the island to party? Like, how do the locals on an island that has been populated for some 3,000 years feel about this dude's authenticity claim?
posted by Think_Long at 9:06 AM on June 29, 2018 [36 favorites]
codacorolla: "It's like if you made a movie about Motown and all of the characters pronounced it as Mootown, and you shot it in Alberta"
...or if you made a movie called “Detroit Rock City” and filmed it in Toronto?
There are any number of times that movies set in X are filmed in Y. Some of them are good reasons. Some are not.
I get the interviewer's frustration (cue memory of me yelling at a TV show during a scene set in Michigan, but ridiculously obviously filmed in California) but there are ways to make your point without being a total dick.
posted by caution live frogs at 9:08 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
...or if you made a movie called “Detroit Rock City” and filmed it in Toronto?
There are any number of times that movies set in X are filmed in Y. Some of them are good reasons. Some are not.
I get the interviewer's frustration (cue memory of me yelling at a TV show during a scene set in Michigan, but ridiculously obviously filmed in California) but there are ways to make your point without being a total dick.
posted by caution live frogs at 9:08 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Some wanker makes a terrible movie titled Ibiza that misses the whole gestalt of Ibiza by virtue of it not being filmed in Ibiza or made by people who know anything about Ibiza.
*grumbles that this music came to focus in detroit and chicago and no one's going to make a movie there*
posted by pyramid termite at 9:09 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
*grumbles that this music came to focus in detroit and chicago and no one's going to make a movie there*
posted by pyramid termite at 9:09 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
I am also surprised anyone had a problem with this interview. Dude made a movie about a place, a culture, and music that he doesn't know anything about and doesn't care to know anything about, he should be confronted about that idiocy. But people are addicted to civility.
posted by TypographicalError at 9:14 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by TypographicalError at 9:14 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
Okay, I've watched the entire movie. It barely has anything to do with Ibiza. Like, on purpose. Ibiza is just a place she's going to meet up with the dude. EDM has nothing to do with the movie except that love interest is a DJ. Also, love interest is barely in the movie. He's an object not a character.
It's not a good movie, but it's not about any of the things that the interviewer wants it to be about.
posted by gladly at 9:20 AM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
It's not a good movie, but it's not about any of the things that the interviewer wants it to be about.
posted by gladly at 9:20 AM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
people are addicted to civility.
Well, there's being uncivil about children getting stuffed in cages, and then there's being uncivil about a movie not being sufficiently hip for you.
posted by Naberius at 9:21 AM on June 29, 2018 [8 favorites]
Well, there's being uncivil about children getting stuffed in cages, and then there's being uncivil about a movie not being sufficiently hip for you.
posted by Naberius at 9:21 AM on June 29, 2018 [8 favorites]
When I do interviews, I’m always afraid that they will uncover that, while I've been to paradise, I've never been to me.
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:21 AM on June 29, 2018 [24 favorites]
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:21 AM on June 29, 2018 [24 favorites]
Dude made a movie about a place, a culture, and music that he doesn't know anything about straight-to-Netflix romantic comedy
posted by uncleozzy at 9:23 AM on June 29, 2018 [15 favorites]
posted by uncleozzy at 9:23 AM on June 29, 2018 [15 favorites]
mixmag in general is kind of douchey and gatekeepery about ibiza and the interviewer is a prime example of that.
posted by poffin boffin at 9:25 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by poffin boffin at 9:25 AM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
*grumbles that this music came to focus in detroit and chicago and no one's going to make a movie there*
Someday, there's gonna be an Electrifying Mojo biopic and it's gonna rock.
posted by praemunire at 9:27 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
Someday, there's gonna be an Electrifying Mojo biopic and it's gonna rock.
posted by praemunire at 9:27 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
while I've been to paradise, I've never been to me
or you were there the night chicago died and no one told you billy, don't be a hero
fie on you
posted by pyramid termite at 9:28 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
or you were there the night chicago died and no one told you billy, don't be a hero
fie on you
posted by pyramid termite at 9:28 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
The thing that gets me is when the interviewer repeats questions that were just answered, as some kind of gotcha? "Have you ever been to Ibiza?" "No, I haven't." "You haven't been to any of the clubs in Ibiza, either?" "No... I haven't been to Ibiza..." "None of the movie was shot in Ibiza?" "No, none of it was." "So the sunset scene and the clubs, those weren't shot in Ibiza?" "No... none of it was..."
And then they put in "*long pause*" in a sort of 'ha-ha look, he doesn't have an answer to this!' way. But I'm just imagining the director thinking either a) is this some sort of trick question? or b) how dense are you? Those are the parts I found to be awkward, and they were 100% created by the interviewer. So while the movie is likely well deserving of critique (I haven't seen it, but trust y'all that it's terrible), this just seems like... a poorly done interview, to me.
posted by brook horse at 9:32 AM on June 29, 2018 [5 favorites]
And then they put in "*long pause*" in a sort of 'ha-ha look, he doesn't have an answer to this!' way. But I'm just imagining the director thinking either a) is this some sort of trick question? or b) how dense are you? Those are the parts I found to be awkward, and they were 100% created by the interviewer. So while the movie is likely well deserving of critique (I haven't seen it, but trust y'all that it's terrible), this just seems like... a poorly done interview, to me.
posted by brook horse at 9:32 AM on June 29, 2018 [5 favorites]
EDM stands for Electronic Dance Music, which FFS includes all, uh, electronic dance music. House is EDM. Old-school jungle is EDM. Kraftwerk is EDM.
It's supposed to be a catchall term but a lot of older-school people in the culture came to reject the initialism as an artifact of the marketing of cheesy festivals. I don't think there's really a hard line either, though - I bet plenty of kids who get bored with that stuff do go on to listen to "underground house." And while I've never been to Ibiza it certainly doesn't have the reputation of only hosting the most underground side of dance music in its giant clubs - even if it's a couple notches more underground than, say, the Chainsmokers.
Anyway I don't exactly have a problem with people being a little defensive about movies getting their scene right but it does seem like the interviewer is a bit too excited to tee off on something we already know is dumb.
posted by atoxyl at 9:34 AM on June 29, 2018
It's supposed to be a catchall term but a lot of older-school people in the culture came to reject the initialism as an artifact of the marketing of cheesy festivals. I don't think there's really a hard line either, though - I bet plenty of kids who get bored with that stuff do go on to listen to "underground house." And while I've never been to Ibiza it certainly doesn't have the reputation of only hosting the most underground side of dance music in its giant clubs - even if it's a couple notches more underground than, say, the Chainsmokers.
Anyway I don't exactly have a problem with people being a little defensive about movies getting their scene right but it does seem like the interviewer is a bit too excited to tee off on something we already know is dumb.
posted by atoxyl at 9:34 AM on June 29, 2018
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
It's such a rich line of questioning.
posted by clawsoon at 9:38 AM on June 29, 2018 [23 favorites]
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
It's such a rich line of questioning.
posted by clawsoon at 9:38 AM on June 29, 2018 [23 favorites]
This was great. Thanks for sharing. If you're interested in the complicated sociology surrounding the pronunciation of Ibiza, this answer on Stack Exchange is great.
posted by crazy with stars at 9:42 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by crazy with stars at 9:42 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
Akshully, it's about ethics in direct-to-streaming b-movie location scouting!
posted by Fidel Cashflow at 9:50 AM on June 29, 2018 [10 favorites]
posted by Fidel Cashflow at 9:50 AM on June 29, 2018 [10 favorites]
Dude made a movie about a place, a culture, and music that he doesn't know anything about and doesn't care to know anything about
Well he did do some research. But I wish he'd done a lot more. From the article:
At the moment, there’s an epidemic where pills are the strongest they’ve ever been, people are dying and there are fatalities all over the world. Do you not feel there’s a duty to educate rather than glamourise in this case.
I'm over 5000 miles from Ibiza right now, yet in a place where more people dying of drug related mess-ups than ever before. Bluntly, if the drug is coming in powder or capsule or pill form, it's entirely capable of containing a lethal amount of fentanyl. I generally hate anti-drug scarifying and/or moralizing ... but this is happening, this is real, a friend of mine just lost his sister, another friend lost his son, these two people were not junkies, they just stumbled into it as I might have twenty or thirty years ago had it been a problem then. We seem to be at a place in history similar to the early 1980s when there was more and more evidence of this horrific sexually transmitted disease but much of the culture was still pushing the laissez faire attitudes of the 1970s. For this reason alone, I applaud this journo's choice to be f***ing annoying.
It also helps that the movie sounds like it's pretty dismal. I wish awful, uncomfortable interviews forever upon those who take good money for knowingly making shitty movies.
posted by philip-random at 9:54 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Well he did do some research. But I wish he'd done a lot more. From the article:
At the moment, there’s an epidemic where pills are the strongest they’ve ever been, people are dying and there are fatalities all over the world. Do you not feel there’s a duty to educate rather than glamourise in this case.
I'm over 5000 miles from Ibiza right now, yet in a place where more people dying of drug related mess-ups than ever before. Bluntly, if the drug is coming in powder or capsule or pill form, it's entirely capable of containing a lethal amount of fentanyl. I generally hate anti-drug scarifying and/or moralizing ... but this is happening, this is real, a friend of mine just lost his sister, another friend lost his son, these two people were not junkies, they just stumbled into it as I might have twenty or thirty years ago had it been a problem then. We seem to be at a place in history similar to the early 1980s when there was more and more evidence of this horrific sexually transmitted disease but much of the culture was still pushing the laissez faire attitudes of the 1970s. For this reason alone, I applaud this journo's choice to be f***ing annoying.
It also helps that the movie sounds like it's pretty dismal. I wish awful, uncomfortable interviews forever upon those who take good money for knowingly making shitty movies.
posted by philip-random at 9:54 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Because then half of the movies and TV shows that are ostensibly set in American cities would have to be called "Toronto" and "Vancouver".
I want to make a workplace-comedy tv show about the Canadian tv industry that's set in either Toronto or Vancouver but filmed in a random hodgepodge of American cities. Like, the office windows will have the Hollywood sign in the background and then they'll go get coffee from a little stand in front of the Nashville Parthenon and on the way back they'll walk past the big bean thing in Chicago.
Also there will be chuds. And blackjack.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 9:56 AM on June 29, 2018 [23 favorites]
I want to make a workplace-comedy tv show about the Canadian tv industry that's set in either Toronto or Vancouver but filmed in a random hodgepodge of American cities. Like, the office windows will have the Hollywood sign in the background and then they'll go get coffee from a little stand in front of the Nashville Parthenon and on the way back they'll walk past the big bean thing in Chicago.
Also there will be chuds. And blackjack.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 9:56 AM on June 29, 2018 [23 favorites]
I made it 35ish minutes into the film because I kept waiting for something funny to happen and then something funny tried to happen for the 5th time and I gave up.
posted by cell divide at 9:59 AM on June 29, 2018
posted by cell divide at 9:59 AM on June 29, 2018
"Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?"
This has the makings of a serious earworm. Quick, someone put a drum track behind this at exactly 126 BPM
posted by IjonTichy at 10:09 AM on June 29, 2018 [10 favorites]
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?
Have you been to Ibiza?"
This has the makings of a serious earworm. Quick, someone put a drum track behind this at exactly 126 BPM
posted by IjonTichy at 10:09 AM on June 29, 2018 [10 favorites]
Also there will be chuds. And blackjack.
Sold. The same should be true whenever they get around to remaking that old SF classic, Escape from East St. Louis.
posted by Halloween Jack at 10:24 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Sold. The same should be true whenever they get around to remaking that old SF classic, Escape from East St. Louis.
posted by Halloween Jack at 10:24 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Because then half of the movies and TV shows that are ostensibly set in American cities would have to be called "Toronto" and "Vancouver".
Usually those movies are made by people who have at least visited those American cities.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 10:42 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Usually those movies are made by people who have at least visited those American cities.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 10:42 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
ostensibly set in American cities would have to be called "Toronto" and "Vancouver".
Except of course for the single episode of Due South that was set in Toronto, which was filmed in Chicago (the Chicago-set episodes were filmed in Toronto, as per the standard practice).
Also, (because I think we've covered everything we reasonably can about this interview and film) as far as Brits pronouncing Spanish zs is concerned, there is little more painful than the most frequent pronunciation of chorizo, not mentioned on the link given, where /tʃəˈriːzoʊ/ gets an Italian/German z and becomes /tʃəˈriːtsoʊ/.
posted by ambrosen at 10:45 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
Except of course for the single episode of Due South that was set in Toronto, which was filmed in Chicago (the Chicago-set episodes were filmed in Toronto, as per the standard practice).
Also, (because I think we've covered everything we reasonably can about this interview and film) as far as Brits pronouncing Spanish zs is concerned, there is little more painful than the most frequent pronunciation of chorizo, not mentioned on the link given, where /tʃəˈriːzoʊ/ gets an Italian/German z and becomes /tʃəˈriːtsoʊ/.
posted by ambrosen at 10:45 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
chorizo
I don't think I ever realized how badly Brits butcher Spanish words -- maybe not worse than, but certainly different from, American manglings -- until I watched the Great British Bake-Off. Every episode contains a new and baffling pronunciation.
posted by uncleozzy at 10:52 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
I don't think I ever realized how badly Brits butcher Spanish words -- maybe not worse than, but certainly different from, American manglings -- until I watched the Great British Bake-Off. Every episode contains a new and baffling pronunciation.
posted by uncleozzy at 10:52 AM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
If someone made a movie about '90s grunge called Seattle filmed it in Savannah and gave it a soundtrack entirely of R.E.M., people would be livid and rightfully so. Similarly, if the soundtrack to Straight Outta Compton was entirely Grandmaster Flash the director wouldn't be allowed back in Los Angeles. The details, especially where music is concerned, are a sign of respectful. This disrespectful director got the disrespectful interview it deserved. I have a feeling most people are shrugging with the director because they don't care about EDM.
posted by CatastropheWaitress at 10:57 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by CatastropheWaitress at 10:57 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
i don't care about EDM - i care about techno and house and d&b and psytrance and even some dubstep, but i don't care about EDM
posted by pyramid termite at 11:00 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by pyramid termite at 11:00 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
If someone made a movie about '90s grunge called Seattle filmed it in Savannah and gave it a soundtrack entirely of R.E.M.
Except that this movie is about three women subverting a work trip for fun and spending most of the movie in Barcelona. They go to Ibiza for 10-15 minutes so the heroine can have a one-night stand with her love interest. I cannot stress enough how this movie is not about either Ibiza or EDM. It’s like arguing that Bridesmaids doesn’t depict baking or police work honestly.
posted by gladly at 11:07 AM on June 29, 2018 [26 favorites]
Except that this movie is about three women subverting a work trip for fun and spending most of the movie in Barcelona. They go to Ibiza for 10-15 minutes so the heroine can have a one-night stand with her love interest. I cannot stress enough how this movie is not about either Ibiza or EDM. It’s like arguing that Bridesmaids doesn’t depict baking or police work honestly.
posted by gladly at 11:07 AM on June 29, 2018 [26 favorites]
i found that the interview-reading experience can be improved if one visualizes and understands the interviewer to have been Ali G.
posted by mwhybark at 11:09 AM on June 29, 2018 [13 favorites]
posted by mwhybark at 11:09 AM on June 29, 2018 [13 favorites]
But Bridesmaids was about bridesmaids and ended with a wedding. Why call it Ibiza if it's nothing to do with Ibiza? Why not The Work Trip? Working Holiday? Three Days in Spain? Get on the Plane? Drugs and Boys? Chase that DJ?
Also, this interview was a great opportunity for director to say "It's not really about Ibiza, so..."
posted by CatastropheWaitress at 11:16 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Also, this interview was a great opportunity for director to say "It's not really about Ibiza, so..."
posted by CatastropheWaitress at 11:16 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
What a sad, posturing little shit this interviewer is. Like the less accomplished version of Karen in HR who never fails to correct your pronunciation of Italian foods because she vacationed in the touristy parts of Italy several times.
posted by FakeFreyja at 11:24 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by FakeFreyja at 11:24 AM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
I'm not arguing that it's a good title for the movie. I'm saying EDM interviewer is disappointed that a movie about three female friends in Spain isn't about his favorite spiritual party spot, and he got on a call ostensibly to discuss the soundtrack of this minor rom-com but decided to pick a fight with the director instead. It seems like the interviewer didn't watch the movie -- 3 pills scene happens in Barcelona at a house party. Maybe he was just too piqued that it wasn't about his favorite stuff to pay attention.
posted by gladly at 11:29 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by gladly at 11:29 AM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
And as bad as Ibiza was, I'll still take a rom-com that features three women at the center rather than whatever spiritual-DJs-in-Spain movie it is that MixMag wishes this was.
posted by gladly at 11:36 AM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
posted by gladly at 11:36 AM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
Bluntly, if the drug is coming in powder or capsule or pill form, it's entirely capable of containing a lethal amount of fentanyl.
Why is this? This is happening all over the place in South Florida right now and a lot of people are dying. I've heard of drug dealers selling stuff that contains less of the drug you want, like cocaine cut with baby formula, but why would they put in more drugs than expected? Is it just a lack of precision in the manufacturing stage? I can't think that there's much advantage in killing off your customers.
posted by Daily Alice at 11:39 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
Why is this? This is happening all over the place in South Florida right now and a lot of people are dying. I've heard of drug dealers selling stuff that contains less of the drug you want, like cocaine cut with baby formula, but why would they put in more drugs than expected? Is it just a lack of precision in the manufacturing stage? I can't think that there's much advantage in killing off your customers.
posted by Daily Alice at 11:39 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
i found that the interview-reading experience can be improved if one visualizes and understands the interviewer to have been Ali G.
I was picturing Super Hans.
posted by betweenthebars at 11:41 AM on June 29, 2018 [10 favorites]
I was picturing Super Hans.
posted by betweenthebars at 11:41 AM on June 29, 2018 [10 favorites]
This is happening all over the place in South Florida right now and a lot of people are dying. I've heard of drug dealers selling stuff that contains less of the drug you want, like cocaine cut with baby formula, but why would they put in more drugs than expected? Is it just a lack of precision in the manufacturing stage? I can't think that there's much advantage in killing off your customers.
here in British Columbia, there's a move afoot to stop referring to the deaths as overdoses and start calling them poisonings -- murder in other words. I personally doubt that it's deliberate murder, because why? Unless it's some truly dark conspiracy, the motives of which I don't really feel like exploring right now* less I end up hanging out with Alex Jones and his crowd. More likely, it's "lack of precision" feeding a perfect storm of why we need to decriminalize and/or legalize all of these substances NOW ... so that we can get a handle on things.
* something to do with some kind of James Bond level villains deliberately exterminating people for profit and/or some twisted puritan ideology
posted by philip-random at 11:57 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
here in British Columbia, there's a move afoot to stop referring to the deaths as overdoses and start calling them poisonings -- murder in other words. I personally doubt that it's deliberate murder, because why? Unless it's some truly dark conspiracy, the motives of which I don't really feel like exploring right now* less I end up hanging out with Alex Jones and his crowd. More likely, it's "lack of precision" feeding a perfect storm of why we need to decriminalize and/or legalize all of these substances NOW ... so that we can get a handle on things.
* something to do with some kind of James Bond level villains deliberately exterminating people for profit and/or some twisted puritan ideology
posted by philip-random at 11:57 AM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
I don't think I ever realized how badly Brits butcher Spanish words -- maybe not worse than, but certainly different from, American manglings -- until I watched the Great British Bake-Off. Every episode contains a new and baffling pronunciation.
Trays tackos and trays churross por fabor [holds up hand with index, middle, and ring finger outstretched]
posted by infinitewindow at 12:11 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
Trays tackos and trays churross por fabor [holds up hand with index, middle, and ring finger outstretched]
posted by infinitewindow at 12:11 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
The interview is awkward, but I totally support confronting these directors on the drug issue. In American movie/tv shows, drugs are so normalised or played for laughs and it is incredibly annoying to see that from the perspective of someone in Mexico who sees daily the toll drugs and especially the drug war has taken on the society here.
posted by dhruva at 12:12 PM on June 29, 2018
posted by dhruva at 12:12 PM on June 29, 2018
This is happening all over the place in South Florida right now and a lot of people are dying. I've heard of drug dealers selling stuff that contains less of the drug you want, like cocaine cut with baby formula, but why would they put in more drugs than expected? Is it just a lack of precision in the manufacturing stage? I can't think that there's much advantage in killing off your customers.
I know someone who died of fentanyl poisoning recently, she thought the pill was something more like --to use the example to point -- Adderall. This is a topic for another discussion but Vox recently did a piece on this which had some theories, including cross-contamination, and the DEA just says it's about money--fentanyl is incredibly powerful, so mix a little in and the profit margin goes up. Not all the customers will die--and is the illicit drug market even about repeat customers, when you can get new customers more easily?
posted by epanalepsis at 12:12 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
I know someone who died of fentanyl poisoning recently, she thought the pill was something more like --to use the example to point -- Adderall. This is a topic for another discussion but Vox recently did a piece on this which had some theories, including cross-contamination, and the DEA just says it's about money--fentanyl is incredibly powerful, so mix a little in and the profit margin goes up. Not all the customers will die--and is the illicit drug market even about repeat customers, when you can get new customers more easily?
posted by epanalepsis at 12:12 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
Wow, that interviewer is a dick. And sorry, but if you're claiming ownership over an island in another country you go to exclusively to party, that's not exactly a great moral high ground.
But I also kind of felt like the director kept wanting desperately to say "look, this wasn't a passion project, it was a low-budget payday from Netflix." Not that that excuses the interviewer's dickishness.
I am bummed to hear so many people here hated this movie. I've had it on my "save for a rainy afternoon" list because it looked like a lot of light, fluffy fun.
posted by lunasol at 12:13 PM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
But I also kind of felt like the director kept wanting desperately to say "look, this wasn't a passion project, it was a low-budget payday from Netflix." Not that that excuses the interviewer's dickishness.
I am bummed to hear so many people here hated this movie. I've had it on my "save for a rainy afternoon" list because it looked like a lot of light, fluffy fun.
posted by lunasol at 12:13 PM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
What a sad, posturing little shit this interviewer is.
I'm beginning to get the impression that that's an unavoidable side effect of simply having set foot on Ibiza. (Which is why it's significant* that the filmmakers never went there.) Like maybe it's something in the water and if you go there, you'll come back forever... well... like this.
*deeply, deeply significant
posted by Naberius at 12:14 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
I'm beginning to get the impression that that's an unavoidable side effect of simply having set foot on Ibiza. (Which is why it's significant* that the filmmakers never went there.) Like maybe it's something in the water and if you go there, you'll come back forever... well... like this.
*deeply, deeply significant
posted by Naberius at 12:14 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
poffin boffin: the pronunciation issue is actually not as simple as a national language vs english speaking person's pronunciation situation as the examples given here are assuming. primarily because you get people (brit expats usually) insisting that the TH pronunciation is the only correct one. which is, uh, not correct. that's the castellano pronunciation, the local language for all the baleares are various dialects of catalan, it's a little fraught wrt catalan national identity, etc. anyway if you aggressively use the TH pronunciation locals think you're a bit of a git.
Ibiza is the name in Castilian, but in Mallorquí it's Eivissa. As a general rule, Valencians and people from the Balearics aren't too keen on Catalans saying they speak Catalan instead of Valencià and Mallorquí.
posted by sukeban at 12:19 PM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
Ibiza is the name in Castilian, but in Mallorquí it's Eivissa. As a general rule, Valencians and people from the Balearics aren't too keen on Catalans saying they speak Catalan instead of Valencià and Mallorquí.
posted by sukeban at 12:19 PM on June 29, 2018 [4 favorites]
Actually, I just realized who this interviewer reminds me of.
posted by FakeFreyja at 1:40 PM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by FakeFreyja at 1:40 PM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
Funster is Mixmag's Digital Editor and he's actually been to Ibiza
Cool.
posted by craven_morhead at 2:19 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
Cool.
posted by craven_morhead at 2:19 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
I mean Ibiza is a spiritual place if you're an idiot. So there's that.
posted by habeebtc at 2:54 PM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by habeebtc at 2:54 PM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
Lunasol, go ahead and watch it! I really enjoyed it. If you like Gillian Jacobs or Phoebe Robinson its an excuse to watch them act funny and charming with pretty good cinematography, and if you are a Vanessa Bayer fan she is fucking awesome in it, esp. the last scene. It definitely feels like a direct to netflix movie: light, unfocused, stylish, cheap. I definitely tuned out the dj romance though.
If you like CW shows or 2 Dope Queens go for it. If you care deeply about underground dance music... I guess don't?
posted by kittensofthenight at 3:26 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
If you like CW shows or 2 Dope Queens go for it. If you care deeply about underground dance music... I guess don't?
posted by kittensofthenight at 3:26 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
I've never been to Ibiza, but I've been involved in throwing electronic music dance events in all kinds of capacities, in all kinds of places, for almost 20 years and.... I thought the movie was about 1000% more enjoyable than I expected it to be. yes, the characters are stupid, but, um, well. yeah. not inaccurately so.
and a lot of (most?) professional DJs are definitely more like the DJ character than, say, the Pauly D douchebag type.
posted by flaterik at 3:37 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
and a lot of (most?) professional DJs are definitely more like the DJ character than, say, the Pauly D douchebag type.
posted by flaterik at 3:37 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
I care deeply about electronic dance music and the cultures surrounding it, but you can care deeply and not be up your own ass about it.
One of the things my particular crew likes to remind people is that we do this because it's FUN. Stop taking yourself so seriously.
posted by flaterik at 3:38 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
One of the things my particular crew likes to remind people is that we do this because it's FUN. Stop taking yourself so seriously.
posted by flaterik at 3:38 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
("yourself" in my last sentence is not aimed at anyone here!)
posted by flaterik at 3:38 PM on June 29, 2018
posted by flaterik at 3:38 PM on June 29, 2018
I can't wait for this guy to nail George Lucas over the fact that he's never been to Tatooine.
That would be great to watch because Lucas could point out that he well actually filmed much of Star Wars on location near Tataouine in Tunisia.
posted by The Tensor at 3:41 PM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
That would be great to watch because Lucas could point out that he well actually filmed much of Star Wars on location near Tataouine in Tunisia.
posted by The Tensor at 3:41 PM on June 29, 2018 [3 favorites]
EDM stands for Electronic Dance Music, which FFS includes all, uh, electronic dance music. House is EDM. Old-school jungle is EDM. Kraftwerk is EDM.
Eh, no. I mean there are certainly some people who use the term in its broad and inclusive sense, but the majority of uses these days (as in the past decade or so) refer to a specific sub-genre of ghastly bro-step stadium-DJ-hero straight American fratboys at spring-break commercial party-banger monstrosities. A representative example might be, say, DERP. In the ongoing trans-Atlantic musical dialogue, EDM is the sub-genre that embodies America's answer to Ibiza (+ dubstep + several other bits and bobs).
A sub-genre with, apparently, billions of eager fans willing to part with money. But one that everyone else who makes electronic music somewhat .. resents.
posted by ead at 4:09 PM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
Eh, no. I mean there are certainly some people who use the term in its broad and inclusive sense, but the majority of uses these days (as in the past decade or so) refer to a specific sub-genre of ghastly bro-step stadium-DJ-hero straight American fratboys at spring-break commercial party-banger monstrosities. A representative example might be, say, DERP. In the ongoing trans-Atlantic musical dialogue, EDM is the sub-genre that embodies America's answer to Ibiza (+ dubstep + several other bits and bobs).
A sub-genre with, apparently, billions of eager fans willing to part with money. But one that everyone else who makes electronic music somewhat .. resents.
posted by ead at 4:09 PM on June 29, 2018 [6 favorites]
Jeremy Abbott will also be stunned to learn that NONE of Game of Thrones was shot on Westeros. He’s fine when he plays Chunk but he’s not a journalist.
posted by Ideefixe at 4:19 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Ideefixe at 4:19 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
EDM very much USED to mean all electronic dance music. The specific genre meaning took over later, much to my annoyance. Nothing to be done about it now that would be more effective than yelling at a cloud, though.
posted by flaterik at 5:41 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by flaterik at 5:41 PM on June 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
Christ. This movie sounds terrible, but not nearly as terrible as this interviewer. What an insufferable turdwaffle.
posted by brundlefly at 5:50 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by brundlefly at 5:50 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Jesus, that really was one of the dick-est interviews I've ever read, and I'm genuinely mad at myself for giving them clicks for that. I hate that this is going to be popular from people hate-reading it. Ugh. I don't want to encourage this.
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 6:12 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 6:12 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
Why call it Ibiza if it's nothing to do with Ibiza?
I have some bad news about Naked Lunch.
posted by ODiV at 6:45 PM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
I have some bad news about Naked Lunch.
posted by ODiV at 6:45 PM on June 29, 2018 [11 favorites]
Why do you think he's an asshole?
His name is “Funster”.
posted by robcorr at 7:06 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
His name is “Funster”.
posted by robcorr at 7:06 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
that rhymes with bunster and you know it's not a bun without an asshole
posted by pyramid termite at 7:08 PM on June 29, 2018
posted by pyramid termite at 7:08 PM on June 29, 2018
'More' (1968) is the other Ibiza film. Music by the Floyd.
posted by ovvl at 8:56 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by ovvl at 8:56 PM on June 29, 2018 [2 favorites]
If they'd hung on for a bit they could have made a Jaws movie
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 12:21 AM on June 30, 2018
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 12:21 AM on June 30, 2018
I’m sorry I thought we were talking about music today.
I'm sort of glad they didn't, that might have been even more awkward.
posted by chavenet at 1:24 AM on June 30, 2018
I'm sort of glad they didn't, that might have been even more awkward.
posted by chavenet at 1:24 AM on June 30, 2018
When I do interviews, I’m always afraid that they will uncover that, while I've been to paradise, I've never been to me.
I live in terror of an interviewer discovering that it was in fact I who let the dogs out.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 2:22 AM on June 30, 2018 [5 favorites]
I live in terror of an interviewer discovering that it was in fact I who let the dogs out.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 2:22 AM on June 30, 2018 [5 favorites]
CARELL: Are you a dog person or a cat person?
JOHN MCCAIN: Dogs.
CARELL: What's your favorite color?
JOHN MCCAIN: Blue.
CARELL: If I were a tree I would be...
JOHN MCCAIN: If I were a tree I would be a ... root. What does that mean?
CARELL: Senator how do you reconcile the fact that you are one of the most vocal critics of pork barrel politics, yet while you were chairman of the Congress committee, that committee set a record for unauthorized appropriations?
JOHN MCCAIN: ....
CARELL: I'm just kidding! I don't even know what that means!
posted by Aya Hirano on the Astral Plane at 4:44 PM on June 30, 2018 [2 favorites]
JOHN MCCAIN: Dogs.
CARELL: What's your favorite color?
JOHN MCCAIN: Blue.
CARELL: If I were a tree I would be...
JOHN MCCAIN: If I were a tree I would be a ... root. What does that mean?
CARELL: Senator how do you reconcile the fact that you are one of the most vocal critics of pork barrel politics, yet while you were chairman of the Congress committee, that committee set a record for unauthorized appropriations?
JOHN MCCAIN: ....
CARELL: I'm just kidding! I don't even know what that means!
posted by Aya Hirano on the Astral Plane at 4:44 PM on June 30, 2018 [2 favorites]
Update: on kittensofthenight’s recommendation, I did watch this and enjoyed it a lot. It’s 1,000% not about Ibiza.
posted by lunasol at 8:43 AM on July 1, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by lunasol at 8:43 AM on July 1, 2018 [3 favorites]
Like, I think getting mad about how it portrays the music scene of Ibiza is roughly the same as someone getting mad because that Key and Peele movie does not adequately represent Keanu Reeves’ career.
posted by lunasol at 8:45 AM on July 1, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by lunasol at 8:45 AM on July 1, 2018 [4 favorites]
I wouldn't say I was mad but I did cross it off my watch list.
posted by biffa at 5:18 AM on July 5, 2018
posted by biffa at 5:18 AM on July 5, 2018
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(to be clear, I mean the interviewer)
posted by uncleozzy at 7:13 AM on June 29, 2018 [42 favorites]