AI nationalism or AI without borders?
August 7, 2018 11:03 AM   Subscribe

New Manhattan Projects. Ian Hogarth (Twitter) explores how increasingly important AI can play a role in a new geopolitics.

Previously.
posted by doctornemo (6 comments total) 4 users marked this as a favorite
 
1. Computers that can play Go.
2. ???
3. Skynet Wakanda
posted by sfenders at 1:13 PM on August 7, 2018 [5 favorites]


The use of AI to further national policy will be severely hindered by AI working best when trained on actual data and thus revealing actual facts. These have no place in national politics.
posted by Devonian at 3:38 PM on August 7, 2018 [2 favorites]


This is a well-written and well-researched account of how powerful people who haven't written a line of fucking code in their lives react to advances in machine learning and AI.

When it comes to China, I have a strong feeling that it's alarmist bullshit. But that's not my area of expertise.
posted by kleinsteradikaleminderheit at 4:15 PM on August 7, 2018 [2 favorites]


Machine learning is one of those things where it's still just math, though, to a large extent. Like certainly Baidu could cleanroom implement AlphaGo or OpenAI Five, if they needed to, knowing the broad outlines of how they work.

You could, probably, do a Manhattan Project where you take a thousand scientists and have them work on a specific goal for years, and do something amazing. But much like the Manhattan Project that doesn't give you much of an edge for long, other people built nuclear bombs.

Probably every ML researcher in the world at this point is sick of the attention paid to the field and just wants to nerd out in peace.
posted by vogon_poet at 6:36 PM on August 7, 2018 [2 favorites]


> Probably every ML researcher in the world at this point is sick of the attention paid to the field and just wants to nerd out in peace, but sure, don't be ridiculous, we'll be happy to continue finding buzzword-riddled semi-imaginary uses for the ludicrous amounts of money you're trying to pump into our field for reasons that mostly involve you having seen too many movies, but nevertheless thank you.

FTFY
posted by kleinsteradikaleminderheit at 8:22 PM on August 7, 2018 [4 favorites]


Just as well there is no AI. Nor any prospect of it any time soon.
posted by GallonOfAlan at 1:38 PM on August 8, 2018


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