“Time is a flat circle.”
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True Detective Season 3 [YouTube][Teaser Trailer] “The teaser focuses on Wayne Hays, played by Oscar-winner Mahershala Ali (Moonlight), who is trying to figure out something from his past. Much like the first season, the third looks like it will use fragmented memories and multiple timelines to tell a twisty story. Ali’s Hays is a detective from Northwest Arkansas, but the show is set in the Ozarks — a region that is spread over four different states: Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Kansas. True Detective creator Nic Pizzolatto will be credited with writing the entire season, much like the series’ first season.” [via: Polygon]
Are not all circles flat? That crazy cop was a poser.
posted by thelonius at 6:52 AM on August 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by thelonius at 6:52 AM on August 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
The Ozarks is a perfect setting.
It's going to be super awkward when they run into Jason Bateman.
posted by Fizz at 6:57 AM on August 27, 2018 [27 favorites]
It's going to be super awkward when they run into Jason Bateman.
posted by Fizz at 6:57 AM on August 27, 2018 [27 favorites]
These now common well-in-advance trailers usually make me feel...frustrated. They are kind of mean like, giving a lollipop to a child and saying, "You can only have one lick!"
I'll try to forget about this until next year when I can actually have the lolli.
posted by CrowGoat at 6:59 AM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
I'll try to forget about this until next year when I can actually have the lolli.
posted by CrowGoat at 6:59 AM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
It's going to be super awkward AWESOME when they run into Jason Bateman.
There ya go.
posted by Major Matt Mason Dixon at 7:01 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
There ya go.
posted by Major Matt Mason Dixon at 7:01 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Jeremy Saulnier is directing the first two episode?!? I'm in.
posted by octothorpe at 7:03 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by octothorpe at 7:03 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
I remember seeing a handwritten sign at a corner store off a country road that just said:
GUNS
———
Deli
That’s low hanging fruit. In Wisconsin, I’ve seen signs for Guns & Doughnuts and Taxidermy & Cheese.
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:04 AM on August 27, 2018 [5 favorites]
GUNS
———
Deli
That’s low hanging fruit. In Wisconsin, I’ve seen signs for Guns & Doughnuts and Taxidermy & Cheese.
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:04 AM on August 27, 2018 [5 favorites]
I’ve seen signs for Guns & Doughnuts and Taxidermy & Cheese.
This is the business that Walt Jr. from Breaking Bad gets into once he's out of high school, right?
posted by Fizz at 7:09 AM on August 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
This is the business that Walt Jr. from Breaking Bad gets into once he's out of high school, right?
posted by Fizz at 7:09 AM on August 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
I liked the first two seasons so I am sure I will watch this when it is out.
posted by Dip Flash at 7:09 AM on August 27, 2018
posted by Dip Flash at 7:09 AM on August 27, 2018
like what is the appropriate exhortation like squeeeee in anticipation of awesome atmospheric noir menace
squwuuuuhhhh?
cos if so im sqwuuuhing
posted by lalochezia at 7:10 AM on August 27, 2018 [5 favorites]
squwuuuuhhhh?
cos if so im sqwuuuhing
posted by lalochezia at 7:10 AM on August 27, 2018 [5 favorites]
I saw one in Ireland that said BEER BOOKS EGGS MARBLE WOOL. I wrote it down.
I spent summers in the Ozarks too. It looks like they shot this in Arkansas, which I find encouraging - it's so distracting when things are supposed to be set in a place I'm familiar with but aren't shot there. (See: Justified, so clearly southern California rather than Kentucky, and basically everything on the CW that isn't explicitly supposed to be the Vancouver area.) Netflix's Ozark does a really good job depicting the region and its people accurately without being condescending; I hope that will be true here too.
posted by something something at 7:15 AM on August 27, 2018 [5 favorites]
I spent summers in the Ozarks too. It looks like they shot this in Arkansas, which I find encouraging - it's so distracting when things are supposed to be set in a place I'm familiar with but aren't shot there. (See: Justified, so clearly southern California rather than Kentucky, and basically everything on the CW that isn't explicitly supposed to be the Vancouver area.) Netflix's Ozark does a really good job depicting the region and its people accurately without being condescending; I hope that will be true here too.
posted by something something at 7:15 AM on August 27, 2018 [5 favorites]
Jeremy Saulnier!!! So I guess we just wait for Macon Blair to show up in the cast somewhere.
posted by everybody had matching towels at 7:16 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by everybody had matching towels at 7:16 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
It's an interesting decision to set this around 1980 - or are they time jumping back and forth here? One reason it's interesting is that presumably parts of it will take place in Northwest Arkansas (where the detective is from), and NWA present day is wildly different than NWA from nearly 40 years ago. It's before the giant boom in growth that occurred from Wal-Mart turning from regional chain to national behemoth. It's also significant that they chose to make the detective African-American, as the area is mainly white. Just on the edge of the NWA is Harrison, a town where the KKK (or at least a chapter of it) has headquartered.
Also:
"Ozarks — a region that is spread over four different states: Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Kansas"
Culturally speaking, just narrow this down to parts of northern Arkansas and southern Missouri.
Finally:
If there isn't a plethora of Arkansas Razorback clothing and memorabilia all over this show for the stuff set in Arkansas, its set designer and costume designer have failed miserably.
posted by Atreides at 7:18 AM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
Also:
"Ozarks — a region that is spread over four different states: Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Kansas"
Culturally speaking, just narrow this down to parts of northern Arkansas and southern Missouri.
Finally:
If there isn't a plethora of Arkansas Razorback clothing and memorabilia all over this show for the stuff set in Arkansas, its set designer and costume designer have failed miserably.
posted by Atreides at 7:18 AM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
Oh man. Torn on this one. There’s a fair chance I’ll watch out of idle curiosity but there’ll be no hanging on to the grim end waiting for it to get good like with Season 2.
posted by Artw at 7:19 AM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Artw at 7:19 AM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
It's an interesting decision to set this around 1980 - or are they time jumping back and forth here?
I think they're hopping back and forth in time as we see Ali at various periods in his life looking older and more wizened.
posted by Fizz at 7:20 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
I think they're hopping back and forth in time as we see Ali at various periods in his life looking older and more wizened.
posted by Fizz at 7:20 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
I've watched through S1 about three or four times at this point and have not bothered with S2 at all. Really looking forward to S3, seeing this!
posted by Maaik at 7:21 AM on August 27, 2018
posted by Maaik at 7:21 AM on August 27, 2018
I liked a lot about S2 although it definitely didn't hold together. But S1 didn't really end very satisfactorily either and it was still one of my favorite things that year.
posted by octothorpe at 7:25 AM on August 27, 2018
posted by octothorpe at 7:25 AM on August 27, 2018
Nothing, IMO, beats the late, lamented Golgotha Fun Park, near Mammoth Caves, for "WTF did I just see honey turn the car around." Also, WRT the show being set in 1980, that's just a bit too early to have Branson as the country-fried dinner theater monolith that it is today.
posted by Halloween Jack at 7:25 AM on August 27, 2018
posted by Halloween Jack at 7:25 AM on August 27, 2018
waiting for it to get good like with Season 2.
Season 2 was not perfect but there are parts of it that I really enjoyed. There's a kind of Michael Mann seediness to the LA we're presented that I really digged. It also had a kind of Season 3 of the Wire feel to it with its look at political corruption. I also loved Rachel McAdams role/performance. But yes, Season 1 still reigns supreme above S2.
posted by Fizz at 7:27 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Season 2 was not perfect but there are parts of it that I really enjoyed. There's a kind of Michael Mann seediness to the LA we're presented that I really digged. It also had a kind of Season 3 of the Wire feel to it with its look at political corruption. I also loved Rachel McAdams role/performance. But yes, Season 1 still reigns supreme above S2.
posted by Fizz at 7:27 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
But S1 didn't really end very satisfactorily either
You know, they were never going to say fuck it and go full Cthulhu, and anyone who expected them to say fuck it and go full Cthulhu was just being silly but you know what?
...saying fuck it and going full Cthulhu would at least have been an ending.
posted by Artw at 7:37 AM on August 27, 2018 [20 favorites]
You know, they were never going to say fuck it and go full Cthulhu, and anyone who expected them to say fuck it and go full Cthulhu was just being silly but you know what?
...saying fuck it and going full Cthulhu would at least have been an ending.
posted by Artw at 7:37 AM on August 27, 2018 [20 favorites]
WRT the show being set in 1980, that's just a bit too early to have Branson as the country-fried dinner theater monolith that it is today.
They had Baldknobbers Hillbilly Jamboree and Silver Dollar City though.
posted by kirkaracha at 7:39 AM on August 27, 2018
They had Baldknobbers Hillbilly Jamboree and Silver Dollar City though.
posted by kirkaracha at 7:39 AM on August 27, 2018
S2 was really worth it just for those gorgeous nighttime flyover shots of southern California.
posted by octothorpe at 7:39 AM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 7:39 AM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
Loved Season 1. Skipped Season 2. Looks like I am in for Season 3...
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 7:43 AM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 7:43 AM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
Supercut of all the aerial shots in S2.
posted by octothorpe at 7:51 AM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 7:51 AM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
2018: ...saying fuck it and going full Cthulhu
posted by Fizz at 7:53 AM on August 27, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by Fizz at 7:53 AM on August 27, 2018 [6 favorites]
Never go full Cthulhu
posted by Damienmce at 8:20 AM on August 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by Damienmce at 8:20 AM on August 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
That’s low hanging fruit. In Wisconsin, I’ve seen signs for Guns & Doughnuts and Taxidermy & Cheese
In all honesty, it was the “Deli” that surprised me.
They had goddamn better go to Silver Dollar City by ep 3
posted by q*ben at 8:20 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
In all honesty, it was the “Deli” that surprised me.
They had goddamn better go to Silver Dollar City by ep 3
posted by q*ben at 8:20 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
DEVIL'S DEN STATE PARK PLEASE
& +1 to Silver Dollar City
posted by ilicet at 8:27 AM on August 27, 2018
& +1 to Silver Dollar City
posted by ilicet at 8:27 AM on August 27, 2018
I lived for a 1990s summer in a small town in the Missouri Ozarks.
The speed limit in the town was 23 mph, presumably because they were building in some room for cheating to 25?
The guy that was running for re-election as sheriff also owned the local liquor store.
I would regularly play horseshoes with a guy named Peanut whose favorite activity was "drinkin', drivin' the roads".
Seeing trash bags dumped in the ditch was a daily occurrence. It was also very typical for a home to be completely piled up with trash because they wouldn't pay for service, but the trash would be piled up next to a giant, functional I'm assuming, satellite dish. This is back when satellite dishes were like 20 feet across. Quite a sight.
It is, however, an utterly gorgeous landscape.
posted by mcstayinskool at 8:34 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
The speed limit in the town was 23 mph, presumably because they were building in some room for cheating to 25?
The guy that was running for re-election as sheriff also owned the local liquor store.
I would regularly play horseshoes with a guy named Peanut whose favorite activity was "drinkin', drivin' the roads".
Seeing trash bags dumped in the ditch was a daily occurrence. It was also very typical for a home to be completely piled up with trash because they wouldn't pay for service, but the trash would be piled up next to a giant, functional I'm assuming, satellite dish. This is back when satellite dishes were like 20 feet across. Quite a sight.
It is, however, an utterly gorgeous landscape.
posted by mcstayinskool at 8:34 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
The speed limit in the town was 23 mph, presumably because they were building in some room for cheating to 25?
Or a speed trap for unsuspecting motorists passing through.
On the subject of Ozark, does anyone know if Netflix has renewed it for a second season? I watched the first season, but not much has stuck with me. It seemed like it was aiming to be a mix of Breaking Bad and Justified, but badly missed the mark on what made both of those shows so indelible.
posted by Atom Eyes at 8:55 AM on August 27, 2018
Or a speed trap for unsuspecting motorists passing through.
On the subject of Ozark, does anyone know if Netflix has renewed it for a second season? I watched the first season, but not much has stuck with me. It seemed like it was aiming to be a mix of Breaking Bad and Justified, but badly missed the mark on what made both of those shows so indelible.
posted by Atom Eyes at 8:55 AM on August 27, 2018
saying fuck it and going full Cthulhu
I think what's killed the rewatch value of season 1 for me was Pizzolatto coming out and saying that all of the support for the fan theories about what was coming, and the possibilities of elder gods rising out of the bayou was utterly unintentional. All of the kids drawings with the spirals, the background the Yellow King implied, all of the stuff that made it seem like there was something really, really deep going on underneath all of the monologuing, supposedly that was just unconnected prop makers just doing whatever, and (whatever interview I read) had him essentially saying all of that was just foolishness, and being all huffy that people weren't just into the show because it was the show he made.
Seriously, when people read too much into the pretty so-so story you've rehashed, and made shiny with great direction and full on solid performances, keep your mouth shut and keep letting people think you're a deep, thoughtful auteur. It's like telling Zuul you're not a god. Besides, let's just say Rust saw a generic elder God consume the hillbilly at the behest of Harrelson's character's father in law. That would give him a pretty solid reason to disappear and be really reluctant to talk to anyone about anything he's seen.
Seriously. Incest hillbilly murderers instead of Cthulu rising out of the swamp. Seeing as pretty much only Hellboy (and only the comics) have ever really gone full Cthulu, isn't about time we get some full on, non-cancelable apocalypse action for a change?
posted by Ghidorah at 9:03 AM on August 27, 2018 [21 favorites]
I think what's killed the rewatch value of season 1 for me was Pizzolatto coming out and saying that all of the support for the fan theories about what was coming, and the possibilities of elder gods rising out of the bayou was utterly unintentional. All of the kids drawings with the spirals, the background the Yellow King implied, all of the stuff that made it seem like there was something really, really deep going on underneath all of the monologuing, supposedly that was just unconnected prop makers just doing whatever, and (whatever interview I read) had him essentially saying all of that was just foolishness, and being all huffy that people weren't just into the show because it was the show he made.
Seriously, when people read too much into the pretty so-so story you've rehashed, and made shiny with great direction and full on solid performances, keep your mouth shut and keep letting people think you're a deep, thoughtful auteur. It's like telling Zuul you're not a god. Besides, let's just say Rust saw a generic elder God consume the hillbilly at the behest of Harrelson's character's father in law. That would give him a pretty solid reason to disappear and be really reluctant to talk to anyone about anything he's seen.
Seriously. Incest hillbilly murderers instead of Cthulu rising out of the swamp. Seeing as pretty much only Hellboy (and only the comics) have ever really gone full Cthulu, isn't about time we get some full on, non-cancelable apocalypse action for a change?
posted by Ghidorah at 9:03 AM on August 27, 2018 [21 favorites]
2018: full on, non-cancelable apocalypse action
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 9:06 AM on August 27, 2018 [8 favorites]
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 9:06 AM on August 27, 2018 [8 favorites]
On the subject of Ozark, does anyone know if Netflix has renewed it for a second season?
Yup!
posted by tobascodagama at 9:11 AM on August 27, 2018
Yup!
posted by tobascodagama at 9:11 AM on August 27, 2018
I am still patiently waiting for the secret occult history of the U.S. transportation system, deferred from S2
posted by kurumi at 9:11 AM on August 27, 2018 [10 favorites]
posted by kurumi at 9:11 AM on August 27, 2018 [10 favorites]
Season Two was terrible but Season One was so good it means I've got to at least give Season Three a chance.... hopefully the light's winning.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:58 AM on August 27, 2018
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:58 AM on August 27, 2018
The Ozarks is a perfect setting.
I bet this time he rips off Daniel Woodrell the way he did James Ellroy for LA.
posted by dobbs at 10:39 AM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
I bet this time he rips off Daniel Woodrell the way he did James Ellroy for LA.
posted by dobbs at 10:39 AM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
I felt season 1 was way over-rated but had something going for. Season 2 was just terribly dull and full of its own importance. I had no interest in ever watching any more, but now it has Mahershala Ali so I'll have to at least start watching it. But I have very low expectations.
posted by Fence at 10:59 AM on August 27, 2018
posted by Fence at 10:59 AM on August 27, 2018
I'm in for Jeremy Saulnier alone.
posted by brundlefly at 11:02 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by brundlefly at 11:02 AM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
I actually liked Season Two, and would have been disappointed with Season One if they went Full Cthulhu.
posted by each day we work at 11:03 AM on August 27, 2018
posted by each day we work at 11:03 AM on August 27, 2018
@Atreides: you're right about the need for Razorback signage, logos, and more. They filmed a lot of this here in Fayetteville (some of it right here on the U of A campus), and from friends who are extras and who had to move their cars, have mailboxes uprooted, and the like, I hear the attention to detail is good. We'll see how it winds up looking.
posted by anaphoric at 11:13 AM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by anaphoric at 11:13 AM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
I think what's killed the rewatch value of season 1 for me was Pizzolatto coming out and saying that all of the support for the fan theories about what was coming, and the possibilities of elder gods rising out of the bayou was utterly unintentional.
Speaking of elder gods and cthulhu, here's a list of books that I've found for anyone who wants to run with the fiction that inspired this world/story:
posted by Fizz at 11:40 AM on August 27, 2018 [9 favorites]
Speaking of elder gods and cthulhu, here's a list of books that I've found for anyone who wants to run with the fiction that inspired this world/story:
• My Work Is Not Yet Done by Thomas LigottiThe list is cobbled from some interviews I've read with Nic Pizzolatto, he's referenced a few of the authors up above. Worth checking out if you want some more weird.
• The Nightmare Factory by Thomas Ligotti
• The Wide, Carnivorous Sky and Other Monstrous Geographies by John Langan
• The King in Yellow and Other Horror Stories by Robert W. Chambers
• Where the Summer Ends: The Best Horror Stories by Karl Edward Wagner
• Walk on the Wild Side: The Best Horror Stories by Karl Edward Wagner
• The Imago Sequence & Other Stories by Laird Barron
posted by Fizz at 11:40 AM on August 27, 2018 [9 favorites]
IIRC he also cribbed pretty liberally from assorted Grant Morrison and Alan Moore. Like I say, I don’t think anyone expected the full cosmic whatever but if you’re not going to have it then doing all the set-up for it is weird in a not good way. It needed a SOMETHING.
S2’s meandering take on assorted Elroy reinforces the impression that he’s a bit of a magpie who doesn’t really know what to do with the pieces he’s picked up.
posted by Artw at 12:23 PM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
S2’s meandering take on assorted Elroy reinforces the impression that he’s a bit of a magpie who doesn’t really know what to do with the pieces he’s picked up.
posted by Artw at 12:23 PM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
Full cthulhu in Season 1 wouldn't have been nearly as terrifying as "the wealthy and powerful figures in your community and government are doing horrible things with no repercussions." That's the terror of real life, Chthulhu would be a comforting change from the status quo of reality, which completely negates it as a force to bring tension or fear into a world.
posted by GoblinHoney at 12:35 PM on August 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by GoblinHoney at 12:35 PM on August 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
It doing a better job at that would also be acceptable.
posted by Artw at 12:38 PM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Artw at 12:38 PM on August 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
Season 4, bring back Rust Cohle but now morbidly obese. Never explain how it happened or make any reference to it.
posted by Damienmce at 12:45 PM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Damienmce at 12:45 PM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
Pizzolatto's first novel, Galveston, does some of that tease with Cthulhu, then pull back. The ominous rumblings of occult depths are scene setting, not plot.
posted by doctornemo at 12:48 PM on August 27, 2018
posted by doctornemo at 12:48 PM on August 27, 2018
If we want signage, how about Guns/Baby stuff? From Middlebury, Vermont.
posted by doctornemo at 12:49 PM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by doctornemo at 12:49 PM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
• Where the Summer Ends: The Best Horror Stories by Karl Edward WagnerThis particular collection of short stories has one of the creepiest shorts I've read in a long while, “Sticks”. It is chilling. Well worth finding at your local library/bookstore.
posted by Fizz at 1:08 PM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
S2 was Pizzolatto hearing all the "Cary Fukunaga directing S1 was what made True Detective great!" talk and them turning around to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt whether or not those statements were true.
Reader, they were very true.
posted by sideshow at 3:08 PM on August 27, 2018 [5 favorites]
Reader, they were very true.
posted by sideshow at 3:08 PM on August 27, 2018 [5 favorites]
Also, my favorite non-sense sign I've seen personally comes from Ketchikan, Alaska. It reads: Chico's Mexican Restaurant, The Best Pizza in Town.
posted by sideshow at 3:13 PM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by sideshow at 3:13 PM on August 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Full cthulhu in Season 1 wouldn't have been nearly as terrifying as "the wealthy and powerful figures in your community and government are doing horrible things with no repercussions." That's the terror of real life, Chthulhu would be a comforting change from the status quo of reality, which completely negates it as a force to bring tension or fear into a world.
posted by GoblinHoney at 12:35 PM on August 27 [1 favorite −] Favorite added! [!]
The sugar and oil refineries polluting everyone and everything is also worse than Cthulhu. They eat, they drink, they shit everywhere, they cannot die, they spread death. They are there in all of the background, in the intro. They are what poisoned the universally loved LSU baseball star. I cannot think of a more 'Louisiana' mythological hero than the LSU baseball star.
Of course, the local wealthy and powerful are such, LSU exists in as much as they facilitate the existence of those factories. So it doesn't matter what they get up to, so long as they facilitate the oil extraction and processing. You can't even get at it, you are powerless, all you can do is find their flunkies. In many Parishes, the oil industry provides more of the tax base than residents, so your interests as a resident are politically secondary to the demons that suck up all that clean air and water. Louisiana is notorious for this petro-populism--it was so chilling / appropriate that your villain was on Parish contract to mow lawns around abandoned schools.
posted by eustatic at 3:37 PM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by GoblinHoney at 12:35 PM on August 27 [1 favorite −] Favorite added! [!]
The sugar and oil refineries polluting everyone and everything is also worse than Cthulhu. They eat, they drink, they shit everywhere, they cannot die, they spread death. They are there in all of the background, in the intro. They are what poisoned the universally loved LSU baseball star. I cannot think of a more 'Louisiana' mythological hero than the LSU baseball star.
Of course, the local wealthy and powerful are such, LSU exists in as much as they facilitate the existence of those factories. So it doesn't matter what they get up to, so long as they facilitate the oil extraction and processing. You can't even get at it, you are powerless, all you can do is find their flunkies. In many Parishes, the oil industry provides more of the tax base than residents, so your interests as a resident are politically secondary to the demons that suck up all that clean air and water. Louisiana is notorious for this petro-populism--it was so chilling / appropriate that your villain was on Parish contract to mow lawns around abandoned schools.
posted by eustatic at 3:37 PM on August 27, 2018 [2 favorites]
Yeah, having been in the area near the relevant time period and even getting some of the tail end of the culture that has been getting pushed further and further into the woods. It'll be interesting to see to what degree old memories are reignited.
Despite all its problems, I still often find myself wanting to move back home while I still have the chance to do it on easy mode before the last of my old network is scattered on the breeze like the autumn leaves.
posted by wierdo at 11:09 PM on August 27, 2018
Despite all its problems, I still often find myself wanting to move back home while I still have the chance to do it on easy mode before the last of my old network is scattered on the breeze like the autumn leaves.
posted by wierdo at 11:09 PM on August 27, 2018
If there isn't a plethora of Arkansas Razorback clothing and memorabilia all over this show for the stuff set in Arkansas, its set designer and costume designer have failed miserably.
They should have Mahershala Ali do the whole thing in a hog hat and never reference it or point it out in any way whatsoever.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 3:32 AM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
They should have Mahershala Ali do the whole thing in a hog hat and never reference it or point it out in any way whatsoever.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 3:32 AM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
Oh, and also:
It'll be interesting to see to what degree old memories are reignited.
I grew up in this region in this period. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to what the show will dredge up.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 3:33 AM on August 28, 2018
It'll be interesting to see to what degree old memories are reignited.
I grew up in this region in this period. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to what the show will dredge up.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 3:33 AM on August 28, 2018
Should I watch True Detective S2? Or is it going to annoy me because it is not actually an adaptation of the LA Quartet with Colin Farrell as Dudley Smith?
posted by betweenthebars at 5:52 AM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by betweenthebars at 5:52 AM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
Should I watch True Detective S2? Or is it going to annoy me because it is not actually an adaptation of the LA Quartet with Colin Farrell as Dudley Smith?
If you're an Ellroy fan, I would advise you not to watch it. It made me livid. I counted 18 plot points they'd stolen from Ellroy's books and I haven't even read his whole output.
posted by dobbs at 7:21 AM on August 28, 2018 [3 favorites]
If you're an Ellroy fan, I would advise you not to watch it. It made me livid. I counted 18 plot points they'd stolen from Ellroy's books and I haven't even read his whole output.
posted by dobbs at 7:21 AM on August 28, 2018 [3 favorites]
I actually bounced off Black Dalia pretty hard and never read The Big Nowhere, the one it apparently reallyriffs on, but just with Dahlia you can see the lifts.
posted by Artw at 9:07 AM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Artw at 9:07 AM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
Reader, they were very true.
I made the mistake of watching one of the "behind the scenes" interviews with Pizzolatto after a season 1 episode. He did not come off well.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 9:54 AM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
I made the mistake of watching one of the "behind the scenes" interviews with Pizzolatto after a season 1 episode. He did not come off well.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 9:54 AM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
The worst thing about S2 was Vince Vaughn's flawed portrayal of criminal gravitas, a gravity that his bland, open, wide-eyed face not just belied, but sort of pooped on, I'm sorry to say.
posted by Chitownfats at 11:13 AM on August 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Chitownfats at 11:13 AM on August 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
Holy crap, a trailer that has captions!!!! I am so excited, this almost never happens.
posted by AFABulous at 6:50 PM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by AFABulous at 6:50 PM on August 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
Chitownfats, you are not lying about poor Vince Vaughn. It's like he was told that looking mildly puzzled and speaking slowly would convey thoughtfulness.
I watched the first episode, and will probably not continue. The obvious borrows from Ellroy didn't bother me, although without looking at spoilers I can guess who isn't going to be alive at the end, but the "ripped from the headlines" feeling did annoy me. Vinci is so obviously Vernon, and the name of the murder victim is so close to the name of an actual murder victim that I had to look it up while I was still watching. It was distracting because it felt like he was playing cut and paste with a couple of copies of the LA Weekly.
posted by betweenthebars at 8:17 AM on August 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
I watched the first episode, and will probably not continue. The obvious borrows from Ellroy didn't bother me, although without looking at spoilers I can guess who isn't going to be alive at the end, but the "ripped from the headlines" feeling did annoy me. Vinci is so obviously Vernon, and the name of the murder victim is so close to the name of an actual murder victim that I had to look it up while I was still watching. It was distracting because it felt like he was playing cut and paste with a couple of copies of the LA Weekly.
posted by betweenthebars at 8:17 AM on August 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
'True Detective' Season 2's Real-Life Inspiration Really Was That Corrupt
FWIW when I read up on that stuff at the time I found it fascinating, but i didn't have prior exposure.
posted by Artw at 8:52 AM on August 29, 2018
FWIW when I read up on that stuff at the time I found it fascinating, but i didn't have prior exposure.
posted by Artw at 8:52 AM on August 29, 2018
Holy crap, a trailer that has captions!!!! I am so excited, this almost never happens.
I've noticed this becoming a bit more common, probably because people are watching video with the sound off on their phones more frequently. Nice that it also benefits people who need captions.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 9:18 AM on August 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
I've noticed this becoming a bit more common, probably because people are watching video with the sound off on their phones more frequently. Nice that it also benefits people who need captions.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 9:18 AM on August 29, 2018 [1 favorite]
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