“...we retract the lips and cheeks using an OptraGate lip retractor.”

December 7, 2018 8:47 AM

Disney Has a Horrifying New Method to Create Video Game Teeth [YouTube] “The ideal teeth appearance depends on the social and cultural context of the subject, as well as on their age since teeth appearance changes over time,” Disney researchers said in a paper titled Appearance Capture and Modeling of Human Teeth [.pdf]. “We present a system specifically designed for capturing the optical properties of live human teeth such that they can be realistically re-rendered in computer graphics. To capture the beauty of both the teeth and the oral cavity, Disney researchers needed their volunteer to remain still while a barrage of 54 different lights blasted at his face for 10-15 second intervals while a camera snapped pictures.” [via: Motherboard]
posted by Fizz (39 comments total)

Disney's Mathematical model of how beauty correlates with virtue would be a fascinating leak.
posted by Space Coyote at 8:48 AM on December 7, 2018 [5 favorites]

I had no idea they were ever trying for dental realism.
posted by Segundus at 8:53 AM on December 7, 2018

I guess Disney's rebooting A Clockwork Orange next
posted by duffell at 8:54 AM on December 7, 2018 [9 favorites]

dental realism

This sounds like some kind of new Church, I'm interested, please tell me more about our new TOOTH GODS!
posted by Fizz at 8:59 AM on December 7, 2018 [6 favorites]

TEETH TEETH TEETH
posted by SansPoint at 9:00 AM on December 7, 2018 [16 favorites]

Or -- bear with me -- how about No?
posted by Etrigan at 9:05 AM on December 7, 2018 [3 favorites]

Capturing the optical properties of live human teeth is less horrifying than at least one alternative that comes to mind.
posted by RobotHero at 9:07 AM on December 7, 2018 [1 favorite]

Epic Mickey 2 is gonna have the most advanced Gibs simulation ever.
posted by FleetMind at 9:09 AM on December 7, 2018

The male teeth model reminds me of a tiki head.
posted by King Sky Prawn at 9:10 AM on December 7, 2018

If I agree not to complain about the quality of the teeth when they don't do this, can we skip the loot boxes and microtransactions?
posted by Sequence at 9:13 AM on December 7, 2018 [3 favorites]

dental realism

This sounds like some kind of new Church, I'm interested, please tell me more about our new TOOTH GODS!

Don't just stop at hearing about it, commit to it, sink your teeth into it, and then...move on. Transcend Dental Realism.
posted by otherchaz at 9:18 AM on December 7, 2018 [21 favorites]

"live human teeth"

TEETH FOR THE TEETH THRONE
posted by BungaDunga at 9:31 AM on December 7, 2018 [15 favorites]

Now they just need horrifying new methods to create videogame Electric Mayhem
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 9:36 AM on December 7, 2018 [2 favorites]

Ah. Cool. I've got teeth that will keep Disney put of my mouth forever....
posted by Nanukthedog at 9:38 AM on December 7, 2018

You know, for kids.
posted by evilDoug at 9:40 AM on December 7, 2018 [2 favorites]

But from the disordered chamber of my brain, had not, alas! departed, and would not be driven away, the white and ghastly spectrum of the teeth. Not a speck on their surface --not a shade on their enamel --not an indenture in their edges --but what that period of her smile had sufficed to brand in upon my memory. I saw them now even more unequivocally than I beheld them then. The teeth! --the teeth! --they were here, and there, and everywhere, and visibly and palpably before me; long, narrow, and excessively white, with the pale lips writhing about them, as in the very moment of their first terrible development. Then came the full fury of my monomania, and I struggled in vain against its strange and irresistible influence. In the multiplied objects of the external world I had no thoughts but for the teeth. For these I longed with a phrenzied desire. All other matters and all different interests became absorbed in their single contemplation. They --they alone were present to the mental eye, and they, in their sole individuality, became the essence of my mental life.

posted by chortly at 9:45 AM on December 7, 2018 [5 favorites]

I guess Disney's rebooting A Clockwork Orange next
posted by duffell

Naw. This is for the Mr. Sardonicus remake.
posted by Splunge at 10:01 AM on December 7, 2018 [2 favorites]

Still looking for an explanation of why Donald Duck sometimes has teeth and sometimes doesn't.
posted by SPrintF at 10:02 AM on December 7, 2018 [1 favorite]

“What," asked Mr Croup, "do you want?"

"What," asked the Marquis de Carabas, a little more rhetorically, "does anyone want?"

"Dead things," suggested Mr Vandemar. "Extra teeth.”
posted by Strange Interlude at 11:00 AM on December 7, 2018 [6 favorites]

Still looking for an explanation of why Donald Duck sometimes has teeth and sometimes doesn't.

Dentures.
posted by urbanwhaleshark at 11:05 AM on December 7, 2018 [1 favorite]

I work with someone who pioneered the use of this tech to capture image-based reflectance/transmission characteristics for human skin under varying lighting conditions, which is still kinda creepy (but less creepy than this). We just had a good chuckle about how the rig must be set up, and then I looked at the article, and, yup! Light stage... for your TEETH! I’m sort of surprised they’re not doing more with the lighting rig. Looks like the standard setup, except the subject is more immobilized than usual.
posted by Alterscape at 11:31 AM on December 7, 2018

Still looking for an explanation of why Donald Duck sometimes has teeth and sometimes doesn't.

They fall out a lot. Happens when you go to a quack dentist.
posted by xigxag at 11:54 AM on December 7, 2018 [7 favorites]

Dentifice, thy name is Disney!
posted by Schadenfreude at 11:58 AM on December 7, 2018 [1 favorite]

"What did you do at work today, honey? I always envy that you work for Disney, you must do pretty cool--"

*Shows her this picture*

"Are...are you in trouble or something? Have you been demoted?"
posted by AzraelBrown at 12:12 PM on December 7, 2018 [3 favorites]

"No dear. I am going to eat the doughnut. THE DOUGHNUT!"
posted by Splunge at 1:17 PM on December 7, 2018

Finally! New tools to fight those horrible dental idealists!
posted by q*ben at 5:41 PM on December 7, 2018

(that’s what I call orthodontists)
posted by q*ben at 5:43 PM on December 7, 2018

I just want to point out that I'm both a huge weirdo and a life long fan of CGI tech, and I'm not clicking on a single damn thing in the post or this thread because I'd like to not dream about Einsterzende Neubauten album covers covered in teeth chasing me around all night.
posted by loquacious at 6:40 PM on December 7, 2018 [1 favorite]

And wait till you meet the dental objectivist and nihilists.
posted by loquacious at 6:40 PM on December 7, 2018 [1 favorite]

what if teeth, but too much
posted by BungaDunga at 7:21 PM on December 7, 2018 [4 favorites]

Can we get Titus Andromedon in for the promotional material?
posted by BungaDunga at 7:23 PM on December 7, 2018

I know enough about image and performance capture to know that "our pipeline performs this process semi-automatically" probably actually means "If you look closely on the credits for Avengers 4 you'll see around 50 "dental vfx artists" who've been stuck wrangling teeth reflectance datasets for 2 years hoping they can move up to a more satisfying job next time, like working in the 2nd Downey Jr. Misplaced Beard Hair Compositing Unit
posted by Jon Mitchell at 7:44 PM on December 7, 2018 [5 favorites]

This is definitely a fetish video.
posted by liminal_shadows at 2:20 AM on December 8, 2018 [1 favorite]

So can we start seeing bad teeth now? Please?
posted by oceanjesse at 6:55 AM on December 8, 2018 [1 favorite]

"More human than human" is our motto.
posted by SonInLawOfSam at 9:44 AM on December 8, 2018

So I see it also tries to figure out the shape of the tooth roots, which I wouldn't have thought is necessary if you're just rendering the visible part of the tooth. But maybe it does help in extrapolating the backs of teeth that might not have been photographed directly.
posted by RobotHero at 11:59 AM on December 8, 2018

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I wonder if they learned that one the hard way.
posted by rum-soaked space hobo at 1:48 AM on December 9, 2018

So I see it also tries to figure out the shape of the tooth roots, which I wouldn't have thought is necessary if you're just rendering the visible part of the tooth. But maybe it does help in extrapolating the backs of teeth that might not have been photographed directly.

The shape of the root affects the contour of the gums.

And I see chortly beat me to nominating Berenice as the next Disney Princess.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 5:08 PM on December 9, 2018

That's a fascinating youtube channel, I guess they're doing speculative research rather than working on any particular project? It's pretty impressive how quickly adjusting the internal geometry gets them looking like real teeth.
posted by lucidium at 11:04 AM on December 11, 2018