Sure would be ironic if he got hit by a car
January 25, 2019 9:57 PM   Subscribe

"As he’s fond of saying, he has no interest in being average. [Dave] Asprey, who is 45, has made the widely publicized claim that he expects to live to 180. To that end, he plans to get his own stem cells injected into him every six months, take 100 supplements a day, follow a strict diet, bathe in infrared light, hang out in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber, and wear goofy yellow-lensed glasses every time he gets on an airplane. So far, Asprey says he’s spent at least a million dollars hacking his own biology, and making it to 2153 will certainly take several million more."

Asprey happily shares his opinion on how often men should ejaculate (once a week, but have sex more often) and how long they should sleep (six hours is good; eight hours is too much). He thinks you should go to Burning Man (because it’ll activate your creativity) and stop eating kale (because it contains trace amounts of oxalic acid). This eclectic advice all falls under the general umbrella of biohacking, which Asprey defines as the use of 'science, biology, and self-experimentation to take control of and upgrade your body, your mind and your life,' or 'the art and science of becoming superhuman.'"
posted by Grandysaur (82 comments total) 16 users marked this as a favorite
 
This is really sad. I hope this guy- I mean what would help look like for this? Therapy? A servant following him around whispering "memento mori" into his ear like he's a Roman emperor? Yikes.
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 10:22 PM on January 25, 2019 [28 favorites]


Weirdly, Sawbones just did an episode on a Times article (article requires signing up for a free trial) about people engaging in similar "wellness" activities. Spoiler: most of that shit doesn't work.
posted by runcibleshaw at 10:28 PM on January 25, 2019 [10 favorites]


Yeah, I'm really uncomfortable with the implied gawking in this article and the way this guy and his whole shtick invites it (for profit, obviously.) I can't imagine looking up to or being in a relationship with someone like this, and the bizarre luxury flaunting is just gross. It's sad and wasteful and I wish his enthusiasm, focus, and brand power were being spent on something less self-centered. But it feels more like a compulsion than a scheme, and that makes it more discomfiting for me.

Here's how I do the butter in my coffee thing: cappuccino and a croissant, don't always swallow the bite of your croissant until you take a sip of cappuccino with it. Delicious. Probably going to increase my chances of dying before I'm 180; I'm super duper okay with that.
posted by Mizu at 10:32 PM on January 25, 2019 [19 favorites]


I hope he’s remembering to floss.
posted by notyou at 10:38 PM on January 25, 2019 [44 favorites]


Sure wish him the best. Damn shame he's not wearing the right yellow goggles, which I have an exclusive patent for*. Hopefully his people will "see the light".

*Full disclosure: there is no such patent.
posted by mwhybark at 10:42 PM on January 25, 2019


There are way worse ways for rich people to spend their money. Good luck to him.
posted by Vesihiisi at 10:53 PM on January 25, 2019 [5 favorites]


I’m terrified about about what life will be like on this planet in twenty years, there’s no way in hell I would want to live to 180 and see what it’s like then, and I don’t think money will make it much better.
posted by Jubey at 11:07 PM on January 25, 2019 [22 favorites]


The best quote of the article: “Asprey’s wife disagrees.“
posted by corb at 11:17 PM on January 25, 2019 [62 favorites]


All this self-experimentation is not without risk. Asprey once took a nap surrounded by ice packs, since cold exposure has been said to correlate with increased resilience; he woke up with first-degree burns over 15 percent of his body. Another time, he zapped himself with infrared light to test the assumption that it would help him learn faster; instead, his speech was garbled for hours. 

I have been laughing at the garbled speech thing all day. It's like Homer Simpson's brain crayon.
posted by Dokterrock at 11:35 PM on January 25, 2019 [35 favorites]


I tried the butter-in-coffee thing because I figured that even if it wasn’t healthful, there’s room in life for delicious treats. But it wasn’t delicious; it was gross! Maybe because I rely on milk to heavily dilute coffee? Latte please.
posted by mantecol at 11:46 PM on January 25, 2019 [3 favorites]


I am forcibly reminded of 1) the askme thread where someone asked “should I get a gun to protect my family” and all the responses were, no, get a carseat, don’t let the kids eat lead. and 2) an alleged anecdote from a very elderly manga artist that he never skimped on sleep, unlike his workaholic peers who dropped like flies before retirement age.

Was going to write more but I read the whole article and ummm he seems like just a dumbass. Complete gullible dummy who just happened to stumble backwards into too much money. He doesn’t believe in flouride. I mean, come on:

“Regulation got us the food pyramid that causes heart disease, cancer, and diabetes in unprecedented numbers of people,”

Huh???

If this guy is healthy it’s cause he’s rich, athletic, and lives in a low air pollution area.
posted by cricketcello at 11:52 PM on January 25, 2019 [17 favorites]


Spoiler: most of that shit doesn't work.
I hope he’s remembering to floss.
Yep, that's a spoiler too (q.v.: previously).
posted by fairmettle at 12:05 AM on January 26, 2019 [2 favorites]


the garbled speech thing
in fairness, it does explain a lot here
posted by mwhybark at 12:10 AM on January 26, 2019 [5 favorites]


“Regulation got us the food pyramid that causes heart disease, cancer, and diabetes in unprecedented numbers of people,”

Well...I don't know about all those things, but I do think that pyramid is (mostly) lobbyist-funded garbage. Well, the "4 food groups" was worse. The main problem with the food pyramid is that it’s intended for the total population, and adults really don't need all that protein (like growing children do), so it's definitely unbalanced. However, I guess it's better than "eat whatever deep-fried blooming onion chocolate donut McNonsense you see advertised on TV". In conclusion, the FDA is a land of contrasts.
posted by sexyrobot at 12:15 AM on January 26, 2019 [13 favorites]


I would have respected this guy if he was trying to use his company to build technology to actually measure biological age, look for problem spots, and target them for early treatment. Instead, he throws the kitchen sink at his body and makes unsubstantiated claims that he is 25% of the way through his life at age 45, all the while looking more like 55.

I’ll be interested to read an update a decade from now. Hopefully he doesn’t mislead too many people in the meantime.
posted by mantecol at 12:23 AM on January 26, 2019 [7 favorites]


Indeed, on the off chance any of these things work, he'll have contributed zero knowledge to understanding which one it was...
posted by kaibutsu at 1:11 AM on January 26, 2019 [10 favorites]


(Or, in other words, if you don't have a control, it's not science - you're just fscking around.)
posted by kaibutsu at 1:12 AM on January 26, 2019 [11 favorites]


He won’t live forever.

It will just feel like forever.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 2:21 AM on January 26, 2019 [18 favorites]


There are way worse ways for rich people to spend their money. Good luck to him.

Well, I guess there are, yeah. But see, if rich people using their power to waste our global resources on futile quests for immortality while we rush towards a catastrophe that may well destroy human civilisation is one of the better ways that they spend their money, I'm less on the side of "Good luck to him" and more on the side of "Take all their money away and spend it on saving some lives, rather than letting these idiots piss it any further up a wall".
posted by howfar at 2:42 AM on January 26, 2019 [38 favorites]


I believe I was put on this earth to eat as much garlic bread as I can without feeling ill and I will stick to this plan
posted by solarion at 3:30 AM on January 26, 2019 [54 favorites]


I'm 56 and obese, and I am going to laugh like a fucking hyena when this dumb rich death cultist goes the way of all flesh before I do. Same goes for Thiel and Kurzweil and who is that other idiot? You know, the Harry Potter fanfic guy whose name escapes me.

Until then, my plan is to do my level best to ignore everything they do. That will still give me more exposure to their particular brand of deluded fuckwittery than I'm happy with, but meh.

Transhumanists, man. Fuck's sake.
posted by flabdablet at 3:40 AM on January 26, 2019 [13 favorites]


He'll be dead by 70.
posted by firebrick at 4:04 AM on January 26, 2019 [3 favorites]


You know, the Harry Potter fanfic guy whose name escapes me.

I'd give Eliezer Yudkowsky (what a name) some slack in comparison. I can imagine him doing questionable things like zapping himself with infrared light, but I feel like he'd at least have a control group. I can somewhat accept insufferable if they at least do it right.

Could be wrong though, I don't know what he's up to nowadays.

This article also just makes me unhappy because I see him in 20 years after being hit by a car or falling down some stairs just reflecting "I spent my life on all that shit and this is how it goes?"
posted by solarion at 4:04 AM on January 26, 2019 [4 favorites]


Alright. So. I've been out of milk before. And cream. And I've used butter. It is not ideal. Its barely palatable. I would not describe the experience as biohacking. Hacking up greasy coffee, sure... but not biohacking.

But... if it prevented me from having to kill everyone around me before I could get to the store. So. Win.
posted by Nanukthedog at 4:09 AM on January 26, 2019 [7 favorites]


and adults really don't need all that protein

The current research consensus is that over 50s typically need a lot more protein than they eat. They also need to weight train but that isn't as fun as butter in your coffee or gadgets with dials.
posted by srboisvert at 5:05 AM on January 26, 2019 [7 favorites]


This is bio-hacking on the sense that he's a total hack when it comes to biology.
posted by Dysk at 5:26 AM on January 26, 2019 [12 favorites]


Asprey, in contrast, is happy to tell me that there are “absolutely” several ways to reverse Alzheimer’s

No.
posted by eirias at 5:50 AM on January 26, 2019 [8 favorites]


I'm reminded of a coworker who goes to extraordinary lengths to get out of doing a relatively easy job
posted by Morpeth at 5:53 AM on January 26, 2019 [21 favorites]


Wait till he discovers the raw water craze.
posted by heatherlogan at 5:59 AM on January 26, 2019 [4 favorites]


A doctor friend told me once that every man will die of prostate cancer if something else doesn't get to him first. That always comes to mind when I read about transhumanists working on their body hacking: Once they get the risk of strokes and organ failure down to nil, they're efficiently elevating the opportunities for the unavoidable problems.
posted by ardgedee at 6:02 AM on January 26, 2019 [5 favorites]


He look exactly like a 45-year old. It's not working.
posted by bdk3clash at 6:04 AM on January 26, 2019 [10 favorites]


I'm reminded of a coworker who goes to extraordinary lengths to get out of doing a relatively easy job

Everywhere I have worked has had that person, working incredibly hard to be lazy.

At least in the photos, he's not looking young for his age at all. I guess there are worse ways to have a midlife crisis, but there are better ways also.
posted by Dip Flash at 6:11 AM on January 26, 2019 [4 favorites]


A doctor friend told me once that every man will die of prostate cancer if something else doesn't get to him first.

And one way to increase your chances of prostate cancer is to take extra testosterone (which Asprey does.)
posted by Obscure Reference at 6:29 AM on January 26, 2019 [1 favorite]


Sure would be ironic if he got hit by a car

Bonus points if it's a GNC delivery truck
posted by duffell at 6:45 AM on January 26, 2019 [15 favorites]


I cannot figure out where his wealth comes from. Is it from the VC funding for Bulletproof Labs? Some charismatic white dude tells everyone to put chunks of butter in their coffee and millions of dollars get thrown at him? Where did this guy come from? I unfortunately read the entire article to figure this out on my own, but it remains a mystery to me.
posted by sockermom at 6:47 AM on January 26, 2019 [5 favorites]


I guess there are worse ways to have a midlife crisis, but there are better ways also.

He’d thank you to remember it is a quarter-life crisis. Most of us have them by forming an emo band.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:52 AM on January 26, 2019 [10 favorites]


(Some also have the unfortunate side effect of causing what he refers to as “disaster pants.”)

disaster pants
posted by sunset in snow country at 7:00 AM on January 26, 2019 [9 favorites]


It says he invented the butter in coffee thing a "few" years ago. There's been a coffee shop in Toronto called Extra Butter for at least 5.
posted by dobbs at 7:09 AM on January 26, 2019


Here's how I do the butter in my coffee thing: cappuccino and a croissant,

Most delicious ways to butter your coffee:
Café Breve - espresso with steamed half&half instead of milk. (You could even do heavy cream, which I believe is called a Café Creme, but don't quote me on that)
Espresso Con Panna - espresso with whipped cream on top
Affogato - espresso poured over ice cream or gelato. Amazing in summer.

And if you can't find a decent croissant in your area, or you prefer to butter your coffee at home, I highly recommend (American-style) scones. They often have around a tablespoon of butter each. I like this recipe.

/former barista
posted by 100kb at 7:19 AM on January 26, 2019 [7 favorites]


(Or, in other words, if you don't have a control, it's not science - you're just fscking around.)


If you don’t have a control it’s not an experiment. Science needs explorers too though.

If something (or some combination) of what he is doing actually has an effect, he will have pared down a near infinite problem space to merely a large and messy one. Then an experimentalist can go to work.

Not that I think anything will come of this, but I hate to see observational science get knocked.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 7:37 AM on January 26, 2019 [5 favorites]


It says he invented the butter in coffee thing a "few" years ago. There's been a coffee shop in Toronto called Extra Butter for at least 5.

It was 2009. I guess if you're so terrified of the swift passage of time, it's hard to admit that a decade has passed since your last popular idea.
posted by howfar at 7:55 AM on January 26, 2019 [8 favorites]


Every place he had stem cells injected is now under massively increased risk of tumor formation. He may have just killed himself. Don't fool around with stem cells until scientists and doctors get a therapy tested and FDA approved. They are powerful because they reproduce, don't die, and can transform into a huge variety of cell types; but we don't fully understand how the different cell fates are switched on. Also, if you look at my description of stem cells, you'll see they're a couple mutations away from being straight-up cancer.
posted by Humanzee at 8:57 AM on January 26, 2019 [26 favorites]


Whoa, Humanzee! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. (I’ll laugh, as is my wont.)
posted by Don.Kinsayder at 9:28 AM on January 26, 2019


Don’t knock bullet proof coffee until you’ve had some right after finishing off a nice J, or at least vaping some high THC concentrates.
posted by b1tr0t at 9:50 AM on January 26, 2019


My feeling is this guy sounds a lot more like a con man than a delusional rich guy. I have no idea what he's selling at this point, but he uses the language of the con.
posted by bongo_x at 10:20 AM on January 26, 2019 [3 favorites]


Don’t knock bullet proof coffee until you’ve had some right after finishing off a nice J, or at least vaping some high THC concentrates.

Refrain from judgment until you are really high man!
posted by srboisvert at 10:22 AM on January 26, 2019 [10 favorites]


It’s so disappointing to see all these self-styled transhumanists who “have no interest in being average” but can’t imagine any loftier goals than working faster and dying older. Who’s going to give me my iridescent hair, my color-shifting e-ink tattoos, my hot-swappable modular genitals, my long-distance empathy links, my underwater breathing, my wings?
posted by haltingproblemsolved at 10:39 AM on January 26, 2019 [40 favorites]


Jerome Rodale, anyone? Hopefully this guy won’t die on camera after boasting about how he’ll live to be 100.
posted by jabah at 10:41 AM on January 26, 2019 [1 favorite]


I cannot figure out where his wealth comes from. Is it from the VC funding for Bulletproof Labs? Some charismatic white dude tells everyone to put chunks of butter in their coffee and millions of dollars get thrown at him? Where did this guy come from?

I don’t know much about business, but I guess if you can convince your board that your lifestyle brand will be best fronted by an eccentric millionaire who spares no expense on bio hacking his own body, and flies into the office from a different country, then you can draw a large paycheck and lavish it on yourself.

The same could be asked about why this article came about. He hasn’t done anything particularly notable on the business front recently. Seems he just wanted documentation of his experimental surgery.
posted by mantecol at 11:03 AM on January 26, 2019 [2 favorites]


My feeling is this guy sounds a lot more like a con man than a delusional rich guy. I have no idea what he's selling at this point, but he uses the language of the con.

Sometimes the easiest mark is yourself.
posted by biogeo at 11:16 AM on January 26, 2019 [3 favorites]


> He look exactly like a 45-year old. It's not working.

I would confidently state that from the neck up I look younger than he does, and I have done exactly none of these things.
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:18 AM on January 26, 2019


> This article also just makes me unhappy because I see him in 20 years after being hit by a car or falling down some stairs just reflecting "I spent my life on all that shit and this is how it goes?"

That's basically a plot summary of Death Becomes Her, which is probably a surprisingly accurate portrayal of what human immortality would really be like.
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:25 AM on January 26, 2019 [2 favorites]


Another time, he zapped himself with infrared light to test the assumption that it would help him learn faster; instead, his speech was garbled for hours.

This means he sat under a heat lamp until he got heat stroke.

I want to laugh at him, but I will literally sauna until I can barely walk, so I get it.

I don't think it helps me live longer or anything - it just feels good.
posted by Pogo_Fuzzybutt at 11:40 AM on January 26, 2019 [2 favorites]


Kim Il Sung of North Korea underwent a strict regimen to keep himself from dying. Spoiler: It didn't work.

I don't see the point of trying to live forever if you systematically deprive yourself of enjoying right now.

Also, if anyone is going to live to 180, it's Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Sorry, Mr. Asprey.
posted by dancing_angel at 11:45 AM on January 26, 2019 [5 favorites]


I don't see the point of trying to live forever if you systematically deprive yourself of enjoying right now.

I mean, one thing that struck me about this guy is that, stem cell injections aside, a lot of his philosophy around nutrition and pharmaceuticals really seems to come down to "if it feels good it's good for you." Which I suppose one could receive positively as an antidote to the ascetic streak in health culture, except I'm pretty sure he's wrong about that.
posted by atoxyl at 11:53 AM on January 26, 2019


I need to get in touch with this guy. I happen to have a tiger-repelling rock that I'd be willing to sell for a very reasonable price, maybe in the low seven figures?
posted by Daily Alice at 12:14 PM on January 26, 2019 [4 favorites]


That's basically a plot summary of Death Becomes Her

So, when Death Becomes Her was in its opening weekend in the movie theater, I went to see it on an early Saturday afternoon matinee. I was given a magic brownie by one of my roommates which I ate before going to the theater and then I smoked some (what for the time was) truly strong pot in my car in the parking lot. Then I went to the movie.

The brownie was stronger than I was expecting and of course it kicked in about halfway through the film. By the time the movie was over and I left the theater into the harsh afternoon sun, I truly was not sure what was real and what wasn't. Had I really just seen all those things? How the fuck am I even going to get home?

It was probably 5 years later when I saw the movie again and realized that yes, all those things I'd seen, they actually were in the movie and not just my addled brain playing games.

Ah, the joys of youth.
posted by hippybear at 1:00 PM on January 26, 2019 [3 favorites]


2) an alleged anecdote from a very elderly manga artist that he never skimped on sleep, unlike his workaholic peers who dropped like flies before retirement age.

That's Shigeru Mizuki. He lived to be 93.
posted by misozaki at 1:27 PM on January 26, 2019


Why are humans so afraid of death. What sort of ego spends a million to make himself live so long (dumbass waste) and not on helping those around him so everyone benefits?

Fuck this guy, fuck his egocentric need to live forever, fuck his lack of charity to the world around him and fuck consciousness for making us so afraid of non-existence that we go to absurd lengths to avoid the mere thought of it.

Yes, I've been reading Ligotti's "The Conspiracy Against the Human Race." Why?
posted by symbioid at 1:50 PM on January 26, 2019 [6 favorites]


Well, if nothing else, he may have convinced me to stop wearing my toe shoes. Which will make my teenaged daughter happy.
posted by TedW at 2:31 PM on January 26, 2019 [4 favorites]


We would all rather be unhappy than share.
posted by maxwelton at 3:22 PM on January 26, 2019 [1 favorite]


...he zapped himself with infrared light to test the assumption that it would help him learn faster; instead, his speech was garbled for hours.
This means he sat under a heat lamp until he got heat stroke.

Or it could mean that he had someone shine lasers through his skull into his brain!
posted by moonmilk at 3:53 PM on January 26, 2019


Generally speaking, I'm in favor of living a reasoned life. 'Everything in moderation', that sort of thing. Don't pound your joints into bone-dust jogging, e.g.

But ... nothing irrational? Good luck with that. (We monkeys, man.) Spending a 180 years of OCD mollycoddling youslef? What if he gets to 90 and finds out he's had enough? How many of those years will he have wasted by then?

And that's just assuming that 'studies' are frequently 'right' about what is 'good for you'. Har. (Good for corps, maybe.) And assuming that there's no re-incarnation *right back* into the same kettle-o-fish. No thanks.
posted by Twang at 4:15 PM on January 26, 2019


Generally speaking, I'm in favor of living a reasoned life. 'Everything in moderation', that sort of thing. Don't pound your joints into bone-dust jogging, e.g.

You make your point by being almost immediately wrong about your reasoned life: There is no evidence that jogging is bad for your joints.
posted by srboisvert at 5:18 PM on January 26, 2019 [1 favorite]


I don't know where he got the idea 6 hours of sleep is optimal. I'm reading Why We Sleep right now and the author, Matthew Walker (Director of UC Berkeley’s Sleep and Neuroimaging Lab), is pretty unequivocal on this point:
David Dinges [a leading sleep researcher] has extended an open invitation to anyone suggesting that they can survive on short sleep [less than 8 hours] to come to his lab for a ten-day stay. He will place the individual on their proclaimed regiment of short sleep and measure their cognitive function. Dignes is rightly confident he'll show, categorically, a degradation of brain and body function. To date, no volunteers have matched up to their claim.
So either this guy is a member of the "sleepless elite" (Walker's phrase) who won the lottery by possessing a sub-variant of gene BHLHE41. Or he's on a fast path to dementia. (If he's not there already: "woke up with first-degree burns over 15 percent of his body". Sheesh.)
posted by bunbury at 7:15 PM on January 26, 2019 [12 favorites]


And because I'm pretty sure this is the type of article that comes with a free license to snark, I'll add: Dave Asprey does look pretty good for a 65 year-old.
posted by bunbury at 7:18 PM on January 26, 2019 [5 favorites]


I play tennis in an over 50 league. Occasionally a 50 or 60 yr. old will say, "Wow. I hope I can play tennis like you when I'm 80".....I always respond, "First you have to reach 80"
posted by notreally at 7:20 PM on January 26, 2019 [9 favorites]


What if he gets to 90 and finds out he's had enough? How many of those years will he have wasted by then?

Seems to me that a more sensible plan than daily autoflagellation for 180 years is looking around to see what the best experiences available to a human being are, then working out the correct order in which to sample those.

For example, I certainly do not wish to miss out on the reportedly considerable pleasures of acquiring a major heroin habit. But the defining characteristic of a major heroin habit is that although it solves every single problem a person might have apart from where to get more heroin, it tends to render one incapable of enjoying or even caring about anything else much. Therefore, it seems to me that the appropriate time to acquire a major heroin habit would be when I am so old and decrepit that (a) all of my problems are of the exact kind that heroin is best fitted to solve and (b) I am physically and mentally incapable of enjoying anything else anyway.

So that's exactly when I plan to have my heroin habit experience. If I were a life-fearing nuff-nuff like this rich idiot, I would not have that to look forward to.
posted by flabdablet at 10:14 PM on January 26, 2019 [3 favorites]


Re only 6 hours a night of sleep, I think the explanation may be in Q&A: Why I Use Modafinil (Provigil), by Dave Asprey.
posted by vogon_poet at 3:38 AM on January 27, 2019


Ah, I see it is mentioned offhand in the article. But yeah, that's the same stuff they give to fighter pilots on long missions. So of course he won't have to sleep as much.
posted by vogon_poet at 3:39 AM on January 27, 2019


I want to know so so much more about his wife. So they met at an anti-aging conference? Do they sit in the cryochamber together? Does she disagree with anything else other than that everyone should have access to all drugs?? Does she plan on spending all 180 years with him or is she planning on living even longer than him? Tell me more!!
posted by rmless at 10:23 AM on January 27, 2019 [2 favorites]


That guy is six years younger than me, and he looks older than I do...just *look* at all that gray hair!
posted by littlejohnnyjewel at 10:54 AM on January 27, 2019


Bunbury: That was totally my reaction on this article.

Me: *looks at picture* "Dang, maybe there's something to this, he looks pretty good for his age."
Article: "45-year-old"
Me: "Wait, he's not in his sixties?"
posted by Rev. Syung Myung Me at 2:13 PM on January 27, 2019 [1 favorite]


There is no evidence that jogging is bad for your joints.

I was going to call you out but damned if the NIH doesn't support you. People have been studying the question specifically and no correlation has been found.

I have to say that is very counter-intuitive.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 4:00 PM on January 27, 2019 [1 favorite]


From the modafinil page:

Q: I’m in college or high school. Should I take it?

A: God no! And stay away from Adderall (prescription meth) too. Good quality coffee (low toxin) is ok in the morning for most people at these ages. Your brain won’t be mature fully until 23-25 years old!


It's a bad sign when this eminently reasonable statement feels jarringly out of character. (Thought I am glad he said it.)
posted by meaty shoe puppet at 4:43 PM on January 27, 2019


Not even in the stimulant category. It’s “arousal promoting” not stimulating. You can sleep after you take it

This is (of course) probably wrong, though. It's not an especially euphoric/addictive stimulant, and the mechanism isn't fully understood, but it is apparently an ("atypical") dopamine reuptake inhibitor.

I've tried it, as someone who is pretty sensitive to stimulants, and 100 mg (one half of any of the pills I've seen) is enough to make me a bit jittery. It's not the harshest stimulant but it certainly feels like a stimulant. And the long half-life means I'm definitely not going to sleep too soon after I take it.
posted by atoxyl at 6:36 PM on January 27, 2019


Must be nice to have more money than sense.
posted by MissySedai at 6:44 PM on January 27, 2019 [1 favorite]


Living to 180 shouldn't be a thing a person can just do, At some point past 100 you should have to poll humanity and see if we all agree it's okay for you to continue on or not.
posted by GoblinHoney at 12:40 PM on January 28, 2019 [1 favorite]


> At least in the photos, he's not looking young for his age at all

I'm older than him, I think I look younger, and I have more than one facial expression.
posted by The corpse in the library at 12:51 PM on January 28, 2019 [2 favorites]


which, it has to be said, is a pretty good trick for a corpse
posted by flabdablet at 2:55 AM on January 29, 2019 [5 favorites]


Back in my hotel room that evening, I sipped on a Bulletproof Fatwater and tried to determine whether my mitochondria felt any perkier. It was hard to say. Here’s the thing: A lot of what Asprey says makes sense.

This was not my impression at all.
posted by Orlop at 6:55 AM on February 1, 2019


A lot of what Asprey says makes sense

I got every word in that sentence!
posted by flabdablet at 8:23 AM on February 1, 2019


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