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The Daily Beast: Trump Diehards Create Their Own Yelp for MAGA-Friendly Restaurants. If you find yourself constantly afraid of being shouted at while trying to have a nice dinner out with your fellow Conservatives while drinking Liberal Tears, then there's an app for that.
There's more over at the 63red website, which looks like a slightly-updated version of Drudge Report with a Bootstrap template grafted onto it. Apparently, the "Safe" app is one of many types of apps "coming soon".
At the time of publishing, it looks like their servers behind their new app are melting down.
There's more over at the 63red website, which looks like a slightly-updated version of Drudge Report with a Bootstrap template grafted onto it. Apparently, the "Safe" app is one of many types of apps "coming soon".
At the time of publishing, it looks like their servers behind their new app are melting down.
We're sorry! Our 63red Safe app is experiencing heavy traffic right now, and may not load correctly. Please be patient while we work to correct this. Thank you!
If there's one thing this country needs, it's more places for white people to be absolutely certain that their perceived inferiors won't argue with them.
posted by Countess Elena at 1:06 PM on March 10, 2019 [71 favorites]
posted by Countess Elena at 1:06 PM on March 10, 2019 [71 favorites]
this app seems like a fast way for a local business to be trolled into a lawsuit
posted by raihan_ at 1:11 PM on March 10, 2019 [7 favorites]
posted by raihan_ at 1:11 PM on March 10, 2019 [7 favorites]
Awesome. This won't contribute to anyone's persecution complex.
posted by davejay at 1:13 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
posted by davejay at 1:13 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
Life imitates art; there's a politics podcast I like, Driftglass, and for many months they've had a made up sponsor:
"Hello Fascist" - boxed meals for Republican enablers and traitors who can't eat dinner out.
posted by Balna Watya at 1:13 PM on March 10, 2019 [49 favorites]
"Hello Fascist" - boxed meals for Republican enablers and traitors who can't eat dinner out.
posted by Balna Watya at 1:13 PM on March 10, 2019 [49 favorites]
That sounds a complicated way of doing it. Here in Blighty-Land, we don't need an app such as this. Eating and drinking establishments full of angry right-wing voters are easily identified by the large "WETHERSPOON" sign on the front of each one.
posted by Wordshore at 1:14 PM on March 10, 2019 [31 favorites]
posted by Wordshore at 1:14 PM on March 10, 2019 [31 favorites]
The potential pizza parlor herring references are literally crazy.
posted by effluvia at 1:23 PM on March 10, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by effluvia at 1:23 PM on March 10, 2019 [1 favorite]
As much as I'd like to point and laugh, the reality is that this is less about MAGA-heads finding a safe space to eat as it is yet another brick in the ever-ascending wall that such people are putting between themselves and reality. The point of this isn't that being a fascist is actually that dangerous (because sadly it isn't); the point is for this to exist as a companion piece to Fox News' neverending stories about how "dangerous" anyone not like you (read: not white) is, how "dangerous" cities are, and how the liberals are coming to get you.
posted by tocts at 1:25 PM on March 10, 2019 [19 favorites]
posted by tocts at 1:25 PM on March 10, 2019 [19 favorites]
Where can I sign up for one of these "socialist goon squads"?
Seriously, is it still 1880 or something?
posted by pipeski at 1:26 PM on March 10, 2019 [27 favorites]
Seriously, is it still 1880 or something?
posted by pipeski at 1:26 PM on March 10, 2019 [27 favorites]
Last time I checked I can't tell the difference between a conservative eating dinner and a liberal eating dinner unless they want me to. It's funny how often conservatives bring up "virtue signalling" and "safe spaces" but this app is literally just helping people find safe spaces to signal their virtue to their peers.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 1:26 PM on March 10, 2019 [65 favorites]
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 1:26 PM on March 10, 2019 [65 favorites]
Man I'd love a list of restaurants that welcome customers carrying weapons.
posted by Nelson at 1:28 PM on March 10, 2019 [10 favorites]
posted by Nelson at 1:28 PM on March 10, 2019 [10 favorites]
Every meal comes with a complimentary voucher to speak to the manager.
posted by ryoshu at 1:35 PM on March 10, 2019 [32 favorites]
posted by ryoshu at 1:35 PM on March 10, 2019 [32 favorites]
They'll be labelling drinking fountains next.
posted by allium cepa at 1:36 PM on March 10, 2019 [68 favorites]
posted by allium cepa at 1:36 PM on March 10, 2019 [68 favorites]
Somehow I don't think The White Book is gonna win any Oscars.
posted by J.K. Seazer at 1:40 PM on March 10, 2019 [60 favorites]
posted by J.K. Seazer at 1:40 PM on March 10, 2019 [60 favorites]
“I believe that, between now and 2020, we’re going to see the rise of the socialist goon squad,” Wallace said. “I think antifa was nothing compared between now and what’s coming in 2020. And I’m deeply concerned.”
I, OTOH, am deeply hopeful.
posted by Splunge at 1:50 PM on March 10, 2019 [22 favorites]
I, OTOH, am deeply hopeful.
posted by Splunge at 1:50 PM on March 10, 2019 [22 favorites]
Gosh, lemme see the MAGA-friendly businesses I've seen or heard about lately. There was the burger joint with the anti-Pelosi decor and a "Speak English or Leave" sign. There was the patriotic breakfast place in SC -- they stand and everyone says the Pledge of Allegiance once a day -- except they display a screed against #44. There was one with a display dedicated to the 2nd Amendment, including the myth that if Germany had it they would have stopped Hitler. There was the taco joint with Confederate flags hung inside. There's a barbershop in MD with Oath Keepers propaganda displayed outside. Etc...
An app that helps people avoid these places is a great idea!
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 1:51 PM on March 10, 2019 [16 favorites]
An app that helps people avoid these places is a great idea!
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 1:51 PM on March 10, 2019 [16 favorites]
Welcome to 63red
A family of conservative tools.
I mean, you said it.
posted by axiom at 1:59 PM on March 10, 2019 [148 favorites]
A family of conservative tools.
I mean, you said it.
posted by axiom at 1:59 PM on March 10, 2019 [148 favorites]
Interesting, while anecdotal, the only instances where I've been subjected to a unwanted hostile political lecture in public has been by conservatives.
posted by remo at 2:06 PM on March 10, 2019 [12 favorites]
posted by remo at 2:06 PM on March 10, 2019 [12 favorites]
It needs a better name; how about the “Brown Book”?
posted by acb at 2:11 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
posted by acb at 2:11 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
Where can I sign up for one of these "socialist goon squads"?
I came to say the same thing. I so want a shirt or a hat that says “Socialist Goon.”
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 2:18 PM on March 10, 2019 [5 favorites]
I came to say the same thing. I so want a shirt or a hat that says “Socialist Goon.”
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 2:18 PM on March 10, 2019 [5 favorites]
It needs a better name; how about the “Brown Book”?
The Brown Shirt Book, maybe.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 2:23 PM on March 10, 2019 [10 favorites]
The Brown Shirt Book, maybe.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 2:23 PM on March 10, 2019 [10 favorites]
“I believe that, between now and 2020, we’re going to see the rise of the socialist goon squad."
oh please oh please oh please
posted by Daily Alice at 2:37 PM on March 10, 2019 [12 favorites]
oh please oh please oh please
posted by Daily Alice at 2:37 PM on March 10, 2019 [12 favorites]
Roses are red
Some people are brown
If you think that's a problem
Fuck off from this town
posted by allium cepa at 2:41 PM on March 10, 2019 [87 favorites]
Some people are brown
If you think that's a problem
Fuck off from this town
posted by allium cepa at 2:41 PM on March 10, 2019 [87 favorites]
the site’s users rate restaurants and other businesses on a series of four questions
How many words?
posted by Going To Maine at 2:41 PM on March 10, 2019 [9 favorites]
How many words?
posted by Going To Maine at 2:41 PM on March 10, 2019 [9 favorites]
It needs a better name; how about the “Brown Book”?
The Brown Shirt Book, maybe.
Mein Schneeflockenkampf
posted by Splunge at 2:44 PM on March 10, 2019 [12 favorites]
The Brown Shirt Book, maybe.
Mein Schneeflockenkampf
posted by Splunge at 2:44 PM on March 10, 2019 [12 favorites]
Gah, my brain was like "Why the hell would Trumpers care if Bernie was kicked out of Red Hen", and it wasn't until after I googled that I remembered that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was booted from Red Hen. It's weird (to me, but probably not to the app users) that a place could get marked "not safe" for booting out a very well-known person who works at the WH, as if that would have any impact on whether some random Trumper would likely get the boot if they tried to eat at Red Hen.
Or maybe for being in a different country entirely but having the same name as an offending restaurant.
My fave bit of the first linked piece: the shade in the final sentence, "Many on Twitter failed to understand that having the same name did not mean that the restaurants are owned by the same people."
posted by ricochet biscuit at 3:05 PM on March 10, 2019 [13 favorites]
Or maybe for being in a different country entirely but having the same name as an offending restaurant.
My fave bit of the first linked piece: the shade in the final sentence, "Many on Twitter failed to understand that having the same name did not mean that the restaurants are owned by the same people."
posted by ricochet biscuit at 3:05 PM on March 10, 2019 [13 favorites]
Poor lil snowflakes.
posted by Sublimity at 3:07 PM on March 10, 2019 [3 favorites]
posted by Sublimity at 3:07 PM on March 10, 2019 [3 favorites]
“I believe that, between now and 2020, we’re going to see the rise of the socialist goon squad."
...are they hiring?
hired goons?
posted by The Whelk at 3:21 PM on March 10, 2019 [11 favorites]
...are they hiring?
hired goons?
posted by The Whelk at 3:21 PM on March 10, 2019 [11 favorites]
63red
Am I missing something obvious in what this stupid name means?
posted by dobbs at 3:26 PM on March 10, 2019 [2 favorites]
Am I missing something obvious in what this stupid name means?
posted by dobbs at 3:26 PM on March 10, 2019 [2 favorites]
It's an app to facilitate boycotts. I mean, there *has* to be something out there that scans a barcode and tells me if the product I'm about to buy is made by Nestlé?
These aren't real capitalists. Real capitalists would white label this.
posted by Leon at 3:26 PM on March 10, 2019 [7 favorites]
These aren't real capitalists. Real capitalists would white label this.
posted by Leon at 3:26 PM on March 10, 2019 [7 favorites]
This reminds me of the time me and my dad were passing through Alabama and wanted to try some local BBQ. Sat down and ordered, then noticed all the paintings on the walls were of confederate troops. Then noticed the kiosk on the way to the bathroom covered in merc and leaflets decrying Lincoln as the worst president. We finished our meal in relative silence. Also, mustard-based BBQ is pretty crap.
posted by es_de_bah at 3:30 PM on March 10, 2019 [15 favorites]
posted by es_de_bah at 3:30 PM on March 10, 2019 [15 favorites]
As much as I want to pile on, I feel like this article is clickbait and is just the cousin to anecdotes of someone having a MAGA hat knocked off. Where’s the evidence that this app is super successful and used by millions of people or bankrolled by powerful interest? The bar to making an app is not exactly high. So there’s a jerk out there and he got quoted ... so what?
posted by freecellwizard at 4:02 PM on March 10, 2019 [15 favorites]
posted by freecellwizard at 4:02 PM on March 10, 2019 [15 favorites]
"socialist goon squads"
I think socialist squads would only consent to having government-provided goons.
GOONS
FOR
ALL!
posted by Greg_Ace at 4:13 PM on March 10, 2019 [1 favorite]
I think socialist squads would only consent to having government-provided goons.
GOONS
FOR
ALL!
posted by Greg_Ace at 4:13 PM on March 10, 2019 [1 favorite]
A picket in every hand and a socialist goon in front of every government office.
#CampaignPromises
posted by allium cepa at 4:50 PM on March 10, 2019 [1 favorite]
#CampaignPromises
posted by allium cepa at 4:50 PM on March 10, 2019 [1 favorite]
Mein Schneeflockenkampf
posted by Splunge
I would suggest Schneeflöckchenkampf.
posted by nostrada at 5:05 PM on March 10, 2019 [7 favorites]
posted by Splunge
I would suggest Schneeflöckchenkampf.
posted by nostrada at 5:05 PM on March 10, 2019 [7 favorites]
socialist goon squads
do you have stairs in your public housing, comrade?
posted by entropicamericana at 5:08 PM on March 10, 2019 [18 favorites]
do you have stairs in your public housing, comrade?
posted by entropicamericana at 5:08 PM on March 10, 2019 [18 favorites]
I mean, there *has* to be something out there that scans a barcode and tells me if the product I'm about to buy is made by Nestlé?
Buycott!
posted by slater at 5:11 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
Buycott!
posted by slater at 5:11 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
These fucking snowflakes.
You want to own being a dickbag, then fucking own it. Quit crying to your mommies about being oppressed.
(I use this type of rhetoric on trumpistas at the office and boy oh boy does it work!)
posted by notsnot at 5:20 PM on March 10, 2019 [25 favorites]
You want to own being a dickbag, then fucking own it. Quit crying to your mommies about being oppressed.
(I use this type of rhetoric on trumpistas at the office and boy oh boy does it work!)
posted by notsnot at 5:20 PM on March 10, 2019 [25 favorites]
If they make any real traction with this thing and it gets popular enough to develop a userbase, it's going to be interesting to see whether restaurants and businesses try to sue them for libel for being positively listed or otherwise try to get off the list. It's the sort of thing that is really bad for a business that doesn't really want to take a political stand: this app's approval means that you've had your "side" announced without ever necessarily soliciting your input. What a mess.
posted by sciatrix at 5:22 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
posted by sciatrix at 5:22 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
Socialist Goon Squads
...are they hiring?
They're always hiring but good luck getting paid. I'm still waiting for my Soros checks from 2016.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 5:22 PM on March 10, 2019 [21 favorites]
...are they hiring?
They're always hiring but good luck getting paid. I'm still waiting for my Soros checks from 2016.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 5:22 PM on March 10, 2019 [21 favorites]
"socialist goon squads"
"We are the Socialist goon squad and we're coming to town/Beep Beep!"
posted by gtrwolf at 5:40 PM on March 10, 2019 [8 favorites]
"We are the Socialist goon squad and we're coming to town/Beep Beep!"
posted by gtrwolf at 5:40 PM on March 10, 2019 [8 favorites]
Off the top of my head I can think of no fewer than three ways to game this system.
posted by East14thTaco at 5:43 PM on March 10, 2019 [3 favorites]
posted by East14thTaco at 5:43 PM on March 10, 2019 [3 favorites]
Hey hey we're the Goon Squad
People say we're goonin' around
But we're too busy socializin'
To push anybody down
We're just tryin' to be equal
Come and watch us legislate
We're the Socialist Goon Squad
And we don't discriminate
posted by Greg_Ace at 5:48 PM on March 10, 2019 [33 favorites]
People say we're goonin' around
But we're too busy socializin'
To push anybody down
We're just tryin' to be equal
Come and watch us legislate
We're the Socialist Goon Squad
And we don't discriminate
posted by Greg_Ace at 5:48 PM on March 10, 2019 [33 favorites]
Oo, grub hub with drones.
posted by clavdivs at 6:00 PM on March 10, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by clavdivs at 6:00 PM on March 10, 2019 [2 favorites]
“Donald Date,” a pro-Trump dating site, launched last year and immediately leaked its members’ data.Of course it did.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 6:01 PM on March 10, 2019 [26 favorites]
“Donald Date,” a pro-Trump dating site, launched last year and immediately leaked its members’ data.
I was seriously wondering if this "Safe" App, like the "Donald Date" app, is just an elaborate honeypot operation.
Furthermore, I recalled that this is hardly the first time a bunch of Conservatives decided that they were persecuted and built a competing thing on the Internets. After, all, Conservapedia still exists (12 years later!) and is still as unintentionally hilarious as you'd expect.
posted by snortasprocket at 6:16 PM on March 10, 2019 [8 favorites]
I was seriously wondering if this "Safe" App, like the "Donald Date" app, is just an elaborate honeypot operation.
Furthermore, I recalled that this is hardly the first time a bunch of Conservatives decided that they were persecuted and built a competing thing on the Internets. After, all, Conservapedia still exists (12 years later!) and is still as unintentionally hilarious as you'd expect.
posted by snortasprocket at 6:16 PM on March 10, 2019 [8 favorites]
“...socialist goon squad."
...are they hiring?
The socialist thing would be goon-run cooperatives, of course. Grab some friends and start your own squad of goonies! Or expropriate a private goon squad.
posted by eviemath at 7:39 PM on March 10, 2019 [8 favorites]
...are they hiring?
The socialist thing would be goon-run cooperatives, of course. Grab some friends and start your own squad of goonies! Or expropriate a private goon squad.
posted by eviemath at 7:39 PM on March 10, 2019 [8 favorites]
Mmm, sounds like an amazing opportunity for patrons to experience all of the singular culinary delights manufactured by white American culture, untarnished by any of those outsider "ethnic" flavours, ingredients, or cooking traditions. Like, uh...I guess processed cheese slices, to toss on their babies? Is white bread really? Where was tap water invented?
posted by turbid dahlia at 7:40 PM on March 10, 2019 [6 favorites]
posted by turbid dahlia at 7:40 PM on March 10, 2019 [6 favorites]
I remembered that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was booted from Red Hen. It's weird (to me, but probably not to the app users) that a place could get marked "not safe" for booting out a very well-known person who works at the WH, as if that would have any impact on whether some random Trumper would likely get the boot if they tried to eat at Red Hen.
Every Trumper is convinced that they are simply a temporarily embarassed White House Press Secretary.
posted by holyrood at 7:58 PM on March 10, 2019 [17 favorites]
Every Trumper is convinced that they are simply a temporarily embarassed White House Press Secretary.
posted by holyrood at 7:58 PM on March 10, 2019 [17 favorites]
Conservapedia is real???
The person who showed me the site likened it to The Onion, e.g., currently posted in the sidebar, Setback for atheism: Saint Valentine's Day increases in popularity. And that's not even the most wtf example from the page.
posted by she's not there at 7:59 PM on March 10, 2019 [2 favorites]
The person who showed me the site likened it to The Onion, e.g., currently posted in the sidebar, Setback for atheism: Saint Valentine's Day increases in popularity. And that's not even the most wtf example from the page.
posted by she's not there at 7:59 PM on March 10, 2019 [2 favorites]
Mmm, sounds like an amazing opportunity for patrons to experience all of the culinary delights manufactured by white American culture, without any of those outsider "ethnic" flavours, ingredients, or cooking traditions.
This, coupled with es_de_bah's comment from upthread got me to thinking about just what American cuisine might be anyway, which led me to, "What ever happened to that southern BBQ* place not far from me?" I never ate there but I recall Hillbilly Heaven being in the news for its "angry-at-you-assholes-already" approach to hiring staff for its second location, as well as its owner's views on what was not and would never be on the menu. From the link:
The new location lasted under six months, closing nominally due to the city's brief flirtation with a dedicated bus lane starting a block west of the restaurant. Curiously, Mr. Bailey seems to be more certain of his skill at reading the long-term effects of infrastructure changes than at running a restaurant: he announced the closure mere days into the one-year pilot project (which was not renewed after mixed results). For what its worth, a brief virtual tour of the neighbourhood I just did on Google Maps seemed to show no other nearby businesses failed in that time, and indeed, some 90% of them are still here most of a decade later.
Hillbilly Heaven's Twitter feed has been silent for more than five years, but during its brief tenure, the restaurant boasts about massive crowds, which admittedly is difficult to square with owner Bailey's claim in the "closing" link that "Business dropped like 75% from day one," although he does not specify from what starting point he is measuring this drop. He may be referring to the other location, which had already been closed due to a laissez-faire attitude toward licensing.
Just for clarity's sake: Cameron Bailey the confrontational white ex-restaurateur and Cameron Bailey, the Black author and artistic director of the Toronto International Film Festival are not the same individual. I am sure they both get a good chuckle out of e-mails and such sent to the wrong Cameron Bailey.
*Which I believe is likely largely Black American culture, although I suspect Mr. Bailey (the ex-restaurateur) would differ with me on this.
**In case it was somehow unclear, HAMBURGER (also among the things they "don't serve and never will"). The Nat Post is as pro-business and pro-Tory as it gets.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 9:03 PM on March 10, 2019 [9 favorites]
This, coupled with es_de_bah's comment from upthread got me to thinking about just what American cuisine might be anyway, which led me to, "What ever happened to that southern BBQ* place not far from me?" I never ate there but I recall Hillbilly Heaven being in the news for its "angry-at-you-assholes-already" approach to hiring staff for its second location, as well as its owner's views on what was not and would never be on the menu. From the link:
[Owner Cameron] Bailey caused a stir last year when he posted a big sign by the cash register that said halal, rice, kabob, shawarma and other items are “things we don’t have and never will.”He also drew fire from the LIEberal lamestream** media for mounting a Confederate battle flag above the second location, located in the heart of the city's International Village.
On the door it said “to better serve you, our staff speaks ENGLISH.”
The restaurant is located in an area populated by many people of Middle Eastern descent.
The new location lasted under six months, closing nominally due to the city's brief flirtation with a dedicated bus lane starting a block west of the restaurant. Curiously, Mr. Bailey seems to be more certain of his skill at reading the long-term effects of infrastructure changes than at running a restaurant: he announced the closure mere days into the one-year pilot project (which was not renewed after mixed results). For what its worth, a brief virtual tour of the neighbourhood I just did on Google Maps seemed to show no other nearby businesses failed in that time, and indeed, some 90% of them are still here most of a decade later.
Hillbilly Heaven's Twitter feed has been silent for more than five years, but during its brief tenure, the restaurant boasts about massive crowds, which admittedly is difficult to square with owner Bailey's claim in the "closing" link that "Business dropped like 75% from day one," although he does not specify from what starting point he is measuring this drop. He may be referring to the other location, which had already been closed due to a laissez-faire attitude toward licensing.
Just for clarity's sake: Cameron Bailey the confrontational white ex-restaurateur and Cameron Bailey, the Black author and artistic director of the Toronto International Film Festival are not the same individual. I am sure they both get a good chuckle out of e-mails and such sent to the wrong Cameron Bailey.
*Which I believe is likely largely Black American culture, although I suspect Mr. Bailey (the ex-restaurateur) would differ with me on this.
**In case it was somehow unclear, HAMBURGER (also among the things they "don't serve and never will"). The Nat Post is as pro-business and pro-Tory as it gets.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 9:03 PM on March 10, 2019 [9 favorites]
*clicks on link to article about a Canadian BBQ restaurant with questionable signage including an American Confederate flag*
"Comments disabled due to offensive posts."
Colour me not surprised.
And gosh, the owner does seem like exactly the sort of person who would operate his business for years without a restaurant license and then flounce and close up shop when told he has to have one. Followed by an announcement that he plans to run for political office. Followed by a failure to actually run for political office. It's like an Onion article come to life.
posted by Secret Sparrow at 9:38 PM on March 10, 2019 [22 favorites]
"Comments disabled due to offensive posts."
Colour me not surprised.
And gosh, the owner does seem like exactly the sort of person who would operate his business for years without a restaurant license and then flounce and close up shop when told he has to have one. Followed by an announcement that he plans to run for political office. Followed by a failure to actually run for political office. It's like an Onion article come to life.
posted by Secret Sparrow at 9:38 PM on March 10, 2019 [22 favorites]
Conservapedia is real???
63red and Conservapedia are parts of the cyst that the conservatist infection is currently building around itself within the body politic.
posted by flabdablet at 11:20 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
63red and Conservapedia are parts of the cyst that the conservatist infection is currently building around itself within the body politic.
posted by flabdablet at 11:20 PM on March 10, 2019 [4 favorites]
I so want a shirt or a hat that says “Socialist Goon.”
This is 2019, so you can have that. I just ordered four 5XL men's black cotton Ts from spreadshirt with
socialist
goon
in 150 point white Arial on the back. Looking forward to wearing those.
posted by flabdablet at 11:57 PM on March 10, 2019 [2 favorites]
This is 2019, so you can have that. I just ordered four 5XL men's black cotton Ts from spreadshirt with
goon
in 150 point white Arial on the back. Looking forward to wearing those.
posted by flabdablet at 11:57 PM on March 10, 2019 [2 favorites]
A bunch of internet connected goons? That'd be something awful.
posted by snuffleupagus at 12:28 AM on March 11, 2019 [26 favorites]
posted by snuffleupagus at 12:28 AM on March 11, 2019 [26 favorites]
MetaFilter: A bunch of internet connected goons?
posted by ricochet biscuit at 12:37 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by ricochet biscuit at 12:37 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
Leon: It's an app to facilitate boycotts. I mean, there *has* to be something out there that scans a barcode and tells me if the product I'm about to buy is made by Nestlé?
Yes, there is: https://www.buycott.com
It is an app where you can decide what categories and companies you wish to boycott. Scan barcode and it tells you.
posted by techSupp0rt at 1:17 AM on March 11, 2019 [2 favorites]
Yes, there is: https://www.buycott.com
It is an app where you can decide what categories and companies you wish to boycott. Scan barcode and it tells you.
posted by techSupp0rt at 1:17 AM on March 11, 2019 [2 favorites]
I'd love to see a breakdown of the list of restaurants that are considered "safe".
I'd bet it's mostly meat-centric garbage fast food joints and grills and sports bars and stuff, and relatively little higher end dining.
If so, the evil part of me wants to encourage this.
That's right, soy is bad for you! Bacon good! Vegetables are what you feed to food! Heart disease is a liberal myth! Sure, you deserve that quadruple bacon cheeseburger and extra large fries! Why, you're a real American, aren't you?
posted by loquacious at 2:06 AM on March 11, 2019 [4 favorites]
I'd bet it's mostly meat-centric garbage fast food joints and grills and sports bars and stuff, and relatively little higher end dining.
If so, the evil part of me wants to encourage this.
That's right, soy is bad for you! Bacon good! Vegetables are what you feed to food! Heart disease is a liberal myth! Sure, you deserve that quadruple bacon cheeseburger and extra large fries! Why, you're a real American, aren't you?
posted by loquacious at 2:06 AM on March 11, 2019 [4 favorites]
Re: buycott — “Buycott is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com.”
What if I want to boycott Amazon?
On topic,
posted by farlukar at 2:36 AM on March 11, 2019 [4 favorites]
What if I want to boycott Amazon?
On topic,
> Where’s the evidence that this app is super successful and used by millions of people or bankrolled by powerful interest?At the moment Play Store lists it as having 500+ installs, and a fair amount of those appear to be only to give a 1-star review.
posted by farlukar at 2:36 AM on March 11, 2019 [4 favorites]
Where can I sign up for one of these "socialist goon squads"?
There is a Polaroid photo of me from the eighties, at age eighteen, with my childhood best friend, standing in front of a taxidermied brown bear posed in a standing-fierce-bear position at a tourist trap business.
My hair is short and spiky and i’m wearing an army surplus field jacket dyed black which has a “Red Alaska” flag pin on the collar. My friend is wearing a green winter military coat. We both are holding Chinese-made AK-47s and wearing boots.
The posed photo was a joke, but i did look the part as a teenager to troll redneck assholes in my town.
posted by D.C. at 3:38 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
There is a Polaroid photo of me from the eighties, at age eighteen, with my childhood best friend, standing in front of a taxidermied brown bear posed in a standing-fierce-bear position at a tourist trap business.
My hair is short and spiky and i’m wearing an army surplus field jacket dyed black which has a “Red Alaska” flag pin on the collar. My friend is wearing a green winter military coat. We both are holding Chinese-made AK-47s and wearing boots.
The posed photo was a joke, but i did look the part as a teenager to troll redneck assholes in my town.
posted by D.C. at 3:38 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
A tip: if you're unsure whether a product is made by a company flip it over and look for the parent brand on the back. The Nestlé nest is quite distinctive. The downside is that the icon is often small.
posted by mscibing at 5:11 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by mscibing at 5:11 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
There's no legal requirement to list the parent brand, AFAIK. With big brands, it usually is listed, but if a brand with a more “indie” or “artisanal” image is owned by a big company, they may well omit this.
posted by acb at 5:23 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by acb at 5:23 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
"socialist goon squads"
Sign me up, but I think we'll need a philanthropic arm to soften our image a little. How about once a day, we lead with "We're from the socialist goon squad government, and we're here to help."
posted by Mayor West at 5:54 AM on March 11, 2019 [3 favorites]
Sign me up, but I think we'll need a philanthropic arm to soften our image a little. How about once a day, we lead with "We're from the socialist goon squad government, and we're here to help."
posted by Mayor West at 5:54 AM on March 11, 2019 [3 favorites]
That's why I put the slogan on the back of the shirts. They don't get to find out I'm a socialist goon until I have helped and I'm leaving.
posted by flabdablet at 7:01 AM on March 11, 2019 [6 favorites]
posted by flabdablet at 7:01 AM on March 11, 2019 [6 favorites]
Slogan on the back also works a lot better when there are four of us sitting around every table in a 63red Safe recommended restaurant.
posted by flabdablet at 7:04 AM on March 11, 2019 [10 favorites]
posted by flabdablet at 7:04 AM on March 11, 2019 [10 favorites]
I was at a local liquor store the other day, buying wine, and the store manager began loudly sharing his opinion that Ilhan Omar is an agent of ISIS, Chicago is a war zone (store is in the Chicago burbs), immigrants are terrible, walls must be built, and other even more offensive opinions. Normally I would have gotten right up in the dude's face but the situation didn't feel safe, so instead I went home and called corporate, expressed my anger and my intention not to shop at stores where managers feel comfortable being vocally racist, and provided extensive details.
Long story short, corporate called me back a week later after completing their investigation and the dude has been fired, because it turns out open racism is terrible for business. (It also turns out the regional manager is an immigrant himself and was unamused.)
So, yeah, uh, good luck with all of this, MAGA-hats.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 7:54 AM on March 11, 2019 [58 favorites]
Long story short, corporate called me back a week later after completing their investigation and the dude has been fired, because it turns out open racism is terrible for business. (It also turns out the regional manager is an immigrant himself and was unamused.)
So, yeah, uh, good luck with all of this, MAGA-hats.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 7:54 AM on March 11, 2019 [58 favorites]
Sure, you deserve that quadruple bacon cheeseburger and extra large fries! Why, you're a real American, aren't you?
Keep trying, maybe it will work soon...
posted by jkaczor at 8:05 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
Keep trying, maybe it will work soon...
posted by jkaczor at 8:05 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
It's always fun to square my actual persecution as a teenager by fucking Wyoming conservative rednecks with their weird insistence that they are in fact the ones being somehow persecuted by the nasty socialists, who actually did take their guns (even though they somehow still have more guns).
posted by aspersioncast at 8:11 AM on March 11, 2019 [7 favorites]
posted by aspersioncast at 8:11 AM on March 11, 2019 [7 favorites]
Socialist Goonie squads never say die.
posted by SonInLawOfSam at 8:55 AM on March 11, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by SonInLawOfSam at 8:55 AM on March 11, 2019 [2 favorites]
...he posted a big sign by the cash register that said halal, rice, kabob, shawarma and other items are “things we don’t have and never will.”
I realize he is just being obnoxious, but including rice in that list is especially ignorant; I don't think I have ever seen a BBQ restaurant that didn't serve rice, typically as an accompaniment to hash or Brunswick stew. Also, rice was (is?) a major crop in coastal areas of the south, especially in South Carolina and Louisiana.
...me and my dad were passing through Alabama and wanted to try some local BBQ. Sat down and ordered, then noticed all the paintings on the walls were of confederate troops. Then noticed the kiosk on the way to the bathroom covered in merc and leaflets decrying Lincoln as the worst president.... Also, mustard-based BBQ is pretty crap.
Are you sure you weren't in South Carolina?
posted by TedW at 10:30 AM on March 11, 2019 [2 favorites]
I realize he is just being obnoxious, but including rice in that list is especially ignorant; I don't think I have ever seen a BBQ restaurant that didn't serve rice, typically as an accompaniment to hash or Brunswick stew. Also, rice was (is?) a major crop in coastal areas of the south, especially in South Carolina and Louisiana.
...me and my dad were passing through Alabama and wanted to try some local BBQ. Sat down and ordered, then noticed all the paintings on the walls were of confederate troops. Then noticed the kiosk on the way to the bathroom covered in merc and leaflets decrying Lincoln as the worst president.... Also, mustard-based BBQ is pretty crap.
Are you sure you weren't in South Carolina?
posted by TedW at 10:30 AM on March 11, 2019 [2 favorites]
I would agree that SC is a possibility but that whole corner of the south is mustard and mostly pork based. I wouldn’t be surprised that Alabam has a lot of that style.
posted by LizBoBiz at 10:58 AM on March 11, 2019
posted by LizBoBiz at 10:58 AM on March 11, 2019
mustard-based BBQ is pretty crap
I profoundly disagree. More for me!
posted by aspersioncast at 11:37 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
I profoundly disagree. More for me!
posted by aspersioncast at 11:37 AM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
I live in an artists colony in LA and we have a restaurant and bar on the premises that is pretty popular locally- it’s also a place that would probably get labeled “unfriendly” for obvious reasons. Thing is I was there the other night and the threesome next to me were fairly loudly proclaiming how “liberals are only liberal when it comes to doing drugs and killing babies” and how they were oppressed for wearing their dumb hats. They were offending at least 60% of the people there- and nobody bothered them, they were served politely and generously by the gay bartender whose rights they wanted to take away. It was one of those “the flat earth society has members all around the globe” moments.
posted by kingv at 4:36 PM on March 11, 2019 [3 favorites]
posted by kingv at 4:36 PM on March 11, 2019 [3 favorites]
Good for you Eyebrows. I wish I'd called this stuff out more vocally in the past, and am trying really hard to just nip it in the bud every time I run into it.
posted by aspersioncast at 5:57 PM on March 11, 2019
posted by aspersioncast at 5:57 PM on March 11, 2019
Way to moderate 'em Eyebrows! Wield the banhammer!
posted by a humble nudibranch at 11:05 PM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by a humble nudibranch at 11:05 PM on March 11, 2019 [1 favorite]
I actually installed this damn thing out of a sense of morbid curiosity, and I have bad news, for both the Dollar Store Fascists it's aimed at and the dozens of people I've seen positing that such an app would be useful for knowing who to boycott: it does not work. At all.
The search bar suggests searching for pizza in your area. Doing so produces an hourglass animation that never ends. No listing of MAGA-friendly pizza joints ever manifests.
posted by Ipsifendus at 6:22 AM on March 12, 2019
The search bar suggests searching for pizza in your area. Doing so produces an hourglass animation that never ends. No listing of MAGA-friendly pizza joints ever manifests.
posted by Ipsifendus at 6:22 AM on March 12, 2019
"Good for you Eyebrows. I wish I'd called this stuff out more vocally in the past, and am trying really hard to just nip it in the bud every time I run into it."
I had this glorious moment of realization when in my mid-30s I got scolded for using the word "sucks" by a woman who said, "Shame on you! You're a role model! You should be setting an example in our community!" because as you know middle-aged white ladies are the arbiters of social morality in our culture and therefore may never say "sucks" because they might corrupt the children, and this light went on in my head like, "FUCK YEAH! I'M A FUCKIN ROLE MODEL!" But nobody said what kind of example I should be setting or how I should be using my privilege as a middle-aged white lady who gets attention when she takes offense to things. So now I spend lots of time gleefully scolding any example of local bigotry or similar that crosses my radar: "This is NOT what I want my children exposed to! This is appalling! Stop that right now!"
If I'm gonna be designated a "role model" by virtue of my age and gender and skin color and mom-hood, I am gonna role model the FUCK out of what I think a kind and just and inclusive community looks like, and fuck everyone who thinks I should be more polite. Because I want to live in a community where bigots are not welcome and I will act like those are already the social norms and enforce the shit out of them. It feels like literally the least I can do with the privilege I'm accorded that I've done nothing to deserve.
It's like being reverse BBQ Becky, if I'm gonna get super disproportionate attention given to my opinions because I'm a middle-aged white lady, I'm going to raise a gigantic stink about bigoted assholes, every time, and as noisily as possible. (I told a middle-aged man in the park to stop making fun of disabled kids on the playground because that behavior was not welcome in our community, and he was SO TAKEN ABACK to be directly confronted about being an asshole that he went and got his mom and sent his mom to argue with me. I mean I guess if your usual level of rhetorical skills is dunking on children, then, yeah, clearly you need your mom to argue with grown-ups for you.)
(I mean obviously I am mindful of the safety of the people around me and the people being targeted and don't raise a stink if it will put them at greater risk and then I'll try to alert someone in charge to the problem quietly, but frequently EVERYONE wants the asshole to stop and the problem is the bystander effect and people's tendency to freeze when confronted with something really offensive, and I don't mind being the target of the asshole's rage, because I figure the chances of the asshole (usually a man) retaliating against me are slim to none, and I can handle being screamed at by an asshole, which is usually as far as it goes.)(And obviously I step aside if a member of the impacted community speaks. But especially in an all-white space, which happens too often, I want bigots to know this is NOT a safe space for them.)
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 9:20 AM on March 12, 2019 [20 favorites]
I had this glorious moment of realization when in my mid-30s I got scolded for using the word "sucks" by a woman who said, "Shame on you! You're a role model! You should be setting an example in our community!" because as you know middle-aged white ladies are the arbiters of social morality in our culture and therefore may never say "sucks" because they might corrupt the children, and this light went on in my head like, "FUCK YEAH! I'M A FUCKIN ROLE MODEL!" But nobody said what kind of example I should be setting or how I should be using my privilege as a middle-aged white lady who gets attention when she takes offense to things. So now I spend lots of time gleefully scolding any example of local bigotry or similar that crosses my radar: "This is NOT what I want my children exposed to! This is appalling! Stop that right now!"
If I'm gonna be designated a "role model" by virtue of my age and gender and skin color and mom-hood, I am gonna role model the FUCK out of what I think a kind and just and inclusive community looks like, and fuck everyone who thinks I should be more polite. Because I want to live in a community where bigots are not welcome and I will act like those are already the social norms and enforce the shit out of them. It feels like literally the least I can do with the privilege I'm accorded that I've done nothing to deserve.
It's like being reverse BBQ Becky, if I'm gonna get super disproportionate attention given to my opinions because I'm a middle-aged white lady, I'm going to raise a gigantic stink about bigoted assholes, every time, and as noisily as possible. (I told a middle-aged man in the park to stop making fun of disabled kids on the playground because that behavior was not welcome in our community, and he was SO TAKEN ABACK to be directly confronted about being an asshole that he went and got his mom and sent his mom to argue with me. I mean I guess if your usual level of rhetorical skills is dunking on children, then, yeah, clearly you need your mom to argue with grown-ups for you.)
(I mean obviously I am mindful of the safety of the people around me and the people being targeted and don't raise a stink if it will put them at greater risk and then I'll try to alert someone in charge to the problem quietly, but frequently EVERYONE wants the asshole to stop and the problem is the bystander effect and people's tendency to freeze when confronted with something really offensive, and I don't mind being the target of the asshole's rage, because I figure the chances of the asshole (usually a man) retaliating against me are slim to none, and I can handle being screamed at by an asshole, which is usually as far as it goes.)(And obviously I step aside if a member of the impacted community speaks. But especially in an all-white space, which happens too often, I want bigots to know this is NOT a safe space for them.)
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 9:20 AM on March 12, 2019 [20 favorites]
it’s been hacked
I'm not sure that being given a cursory look by somebody who speaks code, during which it becomes instantly apparent that it was built by an idiot with no shadow of a clue about How To Security, amounts to being "hacked".
If you have failed even to attempt to keep your password secret, people who use it to operate your phone have not "hacked" your phone; they've used it as designed. And what this app has done is the coding equivalent of somebody writing the password to their phone on a Post-It note stuck to the back.
posted by flabdablet at 9:32 AM on March 12, 2019 [2 favorites]
I'm not sure that being given a cursory look by somebody who speaks code, during which it becomes instantly apparent that it was built by an idiot with no shadow of a clue about How To Security, amounts to being "hacked".
If you have failed even to attempt to keep your password secret, people who use it to operate your phone have not "hacked" your phone; they've used it as designed. And what this app has done is the coding equivalent of somebody writing the password to their phone on a Post-It note stuck to the back.
posted by flabdablet at 9:32 AM on March 12, 2019 [2 favorites]
Their response: TL;DR: No lost passwords, no breach of database, no data changed, minor problem fixed. We’re angry by the attempt, FBI notified.
FBI — corrupt minions of The Deep State — notified.
posted by farlukar at 10:10 AM on March 12, 2019 [7 favorites]
FBI — corrupt minions of The Deep State — notified.
posted by farlukar at 10:10 AM on March 12, 2019 [7 favorites]
Hey! This app lists nothing but Cracker Barrels and fart-fetish clubs.
posted by Cookiebastard at 10:40 AM on March 12, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by Cookiebastard at 10:40 AM on March 12, 2019 [2 favorites]
if your usual level of rhetorical skills is dunking on children
That's only my usual level of basketball skills.
Not a full height net, either.
posted by axiom at 11:39 PM on March 12, 2019
That's only my usual level of basketball skills.
Not a full height net, either.
posted by axiom at 11:39 PM on March 12, 2019
Their response: TL;DR: No lost passwords, no breach of database, no data changed, minor problem fixed. We’re angry by the attempt, FBI notified.
The 100% derisive responses to that response are just a treasure trove of goodness.
I particularly enjoyed Cory Doctorow's use of the phrase "grotesque vulnerabilities".
posted by flabdablet at 7:47 AM on March 13, 2019
The 100% derisive responses to that response are just a treasure trove of goodness.
I particularly enjoyed Cory Doctorow's use of the phrase "grotesque vulnerabilities".
posted by flabdablet at 7:47 AM on March 13, 2019
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