"Come in, 007 ... "
July 14, 2019 9:27 AM   Subscribe

M: "Come in, 007 ... " (Bond 25 spoiler)
posted by WCityMike (24 comments total) 5 users marked this as a favorite
 
Huh, cool. I had been hoping for Idris Elba.
posted by FleetMind at 9:32 AM on July 14, 2019


It’s always seemed a wee bit strange that he never ages and that there’ve been so many different actors. Which I guess was kind of necessary since in the seventies we didn’t have the tech to force-grow Sean Connery clones. That would’ve made the franchise sort of different.

I might even watch this one.
posted by Gilgamesh's Chauffeur at 9:49 AM on July 14, 2019


To be clear, it looks like she's not leading the movie - it sounds like Lashana Lynch is essentially the Bond girl (excuse me, Bond woman) of the film, as the agent designated 007 after Bond retired, and is probably a supporting character.

That being said, AWESOME. I love Lashana Lynch, and I hope a leading role in a 007 film is in the works following this one.
posted by blithers at 9:56 AM on July 14, 2019


I love the idea of passing the torch like this. Maybe it is what actually happens.

I had thought with the Justin Long installment of Die Hard that we'd seen the passing of the torch from the Bruce Willis "action films are about machine guns" era into the "action films are about smart people doing cyber things or whatever" era, but then Die Hard came right back with another shooting film, so....

Maybe Bond can manage a graceful evolving with this, if it turns out to be true. That series has been struggling to grow up for over a decade now.
posted by hippybear at 10:24 AM on July 14, 2019


The source added, "Bond, of course, is sexually attracted to the new female 007 and tries his usual seduction tricks, but is baffled when they don't work on a brilliant, young black woman who basically rolls her eyes at him and has no interest in jumping into his bed. Well, certainly not at the beginning."
Oh fuck off and welcome back to 2019 when you are ready for it.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 10:32 AM on July 14, 2019 [19 favorites]


Lord, I don't ask for much, but please open their eyes and keep the plot of the movie from becoming "Black woman isn't up to the task and needs to get the old white guy to come back and save the world".
posted by Etrigan at 10:41 AM on July 14, 2019 [13 favorites]


I still think that Naomie Harris' Moneypenny's character arc in the Craig Bond movies pointed directly to her getting a 00 codename, and I fear that instead we'll only get Lynch as a one-shot character. What we know about the movie is somewhat promising, but I would have liked a 00 female agent that *stuck*.
posted by sukeban at 10:42 AM on July 14, 2019 [3 favorites]


The guy writing/directing is Cary Fukunaga who’s responsible for True Detective, that’s pretty neat
posted by mit5urugi at 10:59 AM on July 14, 2019 [1 favorite]


I liked Fark's headline for this: "Neckbeard manbaby meltdown in 3...2...1 " The comments, not so much...

What I'm finding curious is that this news was released on a weekend and apparently not to the usual Hollywood press. The earliest sources I saw were in British tabloids, which were quickly picked up by US tabloids.

To be clear, it looks like she's not leading the movie - it sounds like Lashana Lynch is essentially the Bond girl (excuse me, Bond woman) of the film

To be clear, no it doesn't sound like that. The "Bond girl" will be played by Cuban actress Ana De Armas, as a character named "Paloma."
posted by fuse theorem at 11:37 AM on July 14, 2019 [2 favorites]


It’s always seemed a wee bit strange that he never ages and that there’ve been so many different actors

Easy. Bond is Gallifreyan.
posted by jabah at 11:54 AM on July 14, 2019 [3 favorites]


The guy writing/directing is Cary Fukunaga who’s responsible for True Detective, that’s pretty neat.

Hate to be Mr. Pedantic, but he's not "responsible" for True Detective. He was a hired gun. He directed it. It's written and created by someone else.

Fukunaga is also only co-writing Bond 25, with the main two writers being the same two who wrote the last 3 films (which Fukunaga had nothing to do with).

Though I don't expect much from any Bond film, I will go see this one. And that has nothing to do with Fukunaga, Purvis and Wade (writers), Craig, or Lynch.

I'll be seeing it because they brought in Phoebe Waller-Bridge, the creator, writer, and star of Fleabag, and the adaptor of Killing Eve, to do a rewrite.
posted by dobbs at 12:51 PM on July 14, 2019 [12 favorites]


Hah! Had a whole post, but on preview, I’ll just second everything dobbs wrote.

This casting + PWB’s involvement are the most heartening things about the project.
posted by FallibleHuman at 12:59 PM on July 14, 2019 [2 favorites]


"James Bond" is as much a cover identity as "007". There has been a succession of men who inhabited both of them at once over the past decades. This time, thanks to sweeping changes in how MI5 handles its recruitment and training, the coveted title has gone to a woman - who, as usual, will have to be twice as capable as any man who'd previously had the job, or be found lacking.

Soon, evil masterminds around the world will be shivering at the name of "Jane Bond" just as much as they did for "James".
posted by egypturnash at 1:11 PM on July 14, 2019 [1 favorite]


He directed it. It's written and created by someone else.

The show runner (Nic Pizzolatto) got so angry at all the “Fukunaga is the reason True Detective is so great” press, that he fired Cary to prove to everyone who the real genius behind the series was. Well, since season two was generally a piece of shit, I’d say he succeeded in doing so.
posted by sideshow at 1:58 PM on July 14, 2019 [9 favorites]


@dobbs
Hate to be Mr. Pedantic
oh dang - that might be even more neat then, sorry about the mistake :v

@sideshow
HA! GOLD!
posted by mit5urugi at 2:05 PM on July 14, 2019


I'll be seeing it because they brought in Phoebe Waller-Bridge...

Yep! When I heard she was doing a pass on the script, I was totally on-board. I wonder if this interesting development was Waller-Bridge's doing?
posted by turbid dahlia at 2:47 PM on July 14, 2019


I prefer my Bond to be a white alcoholic musclebound misogynist. It helps to clarify whether we’ve made any progress or not.
posted by blue_beetle at 3:17 PM on July 14, 2019


As amusing as it is to imagine an elderly Bond in the nursing home shouting at FOX news about how much he hates all the progressive changes in the world, I'm not sure I want a whole movie about it.
posted by straight at 3:39 PM on July 14, 2019


Sean Connery was 32 when Dr. No came out. I can't find numbers that far back for UK baby names, but for the US in 1988, 32 years before the next Bond movie is due, 244 baby girls were given the name James.
posted by ckape at 5:09 PM on July 14, 2019 [1 favorite]


Cary Fukunaga wasn’t a hired gun. He directed every episode in the first, and best, season. He also wore Executive Producer hat from the very beginning; Fukunaga has a credit on all 24 episodes.
posted by lemon_icing at 6:00 AM on July 15, 2019


As amusing as it is to imagine an elderly Bond in the nursing home shouting at FOX news about how much he hates all the progressive changes in the world, I'm not sure I want a whole movie about it.

That's basically the premise of the latest iteration of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
posted by davros42 at 7:49 AM on July 15, 2019 [1 favorite]


I've always believed, and always hoped I would eventually see made real on screen, that "James Bond" is as much a title, as assumed name, as "007". The agent designated 007 is referred to as James Bond, no matter who that agent actually is currently.
posted by radiosilents at 12:39 PM on July 15, 2019


Cary Fukunaga wasn’t a hired gun. He directed every episode in the first, and best, season.

The show was created without his involvement. He was hired to direct the entire first season--after it had already been greenlit. They were going to use Alejandro Inarritu but he had a conflict. One of the reasons these men were interested in directing is because the whole season was part of the pitch, which is unusual for television.

He also wore Executive Producer hat from the very beginning; Fukunaga has a credit on all 24 episodes.

So do 10 other people. Are you suggesting they are all "responsible" for creating the show? EP can often be a credit that has to do with residuals more than creative input.

It's not a knock against Fukunaga to say he "only" directed the show. That's his job -- he's a director. But it's not accurate to say he was "responsible" for the show. That's my whole point. Fukanaga will unquestionably have more control over Bond 25 than he did the entire run of True Detective because film is a director's medium and television a writer's.

If he wanted to, Nic P could have fired Cary. The reverse would not have been possible. Pizzolatto is responsible for True Detective.
posted by dobbs at 3:59 PM on July 15, 2019


I still think that Naomie Harris' Moneypenny's character arc in the Craig Bond movies pointed directly to her getting a 00 codename, and I fear that instead we'll only get Lynch as a one-shot character.

I agree! I thought she was pretty badass in Skyfall and Spectre. She's 42 and Lashana Lynch is 31, though.
posted by kirkaracha at 7:43 AM on July 16, 2019


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