California police brag about breaking law to help ICE
November 22, 2019 6:22 PM Subscribe
Some officers have recently boasted about breaking state law and collaborating with ICE, according to messages posted in a private Facebook group. California’s state and local police are prohibited from stopping, investigating, or detaining anyone based solely on their immigration status. This sanctuary state policy means that they cannot assist federal ICE agents when they are seeking to arrest and deport undocumented people for immigration violations... Still, some police officers have recently boasted about breaking state law and collaborating with ICE agents, according to messages recently posted in a private Facebook group and obtained by The Appeal.
The social media comments raise questions about how effective California’s sanctuary policies actually are when police officers can subvert the law and continue working with ICE and Border Patrol.
The social media comments raise questions about how effective California’s sanctuary policies actually are when police officers can subvert the law and continue working with ICE and Border Patrol.
H/t ZachLipton
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 6:31 PM on November 22, 2019 [3 favorites]
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 6:31 PM on November 22, 2019 [3 favorites]
“That A-hole in sacto can charge me and I will have the weight of the federal gov. When i am found not guilty i will sue for wrongful termination and go to work for Fox news."
posted by Acid Communist at 6:34 PM on November 22, 2019 [12 favorites]
posted by Acid Communist at 6:34 PM on November 22, 2019 [12 favorites]
I'm going to call my state assemblymember and senator. You can find yours here.
posted by J.K. Seazer at 6:40 PM on November 22, 2019 [9 favorites]
posted by J.K. Seazer at 6:40 PM on November 22, 2019 [9 favorites]
Burn it all down.
posted by Scattercat at 6:43 PM on November 22, 2019 [4 favorites]
posted by Scattercat at 6:43 PM on November 22, 2019 [4 favorites]
I think that it would be perfectly fine, laudable even, if things that were not generally considered to be good things happened to these people, a lot, and for the rest of their lives. However long that might be.
posted by poffin boffin at 7:18 PM on November 22, 2019 [12 favorites]
posted by poffin boffin at 7:18 PM on November 22, 2019 [12 favorites]
This is 1930s Germany-level stuff that rips societies to shreds.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 8:32 PM on November 22, 2019 [7 favorites]
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 8:32 PM on November 22, 2019 [7 favorites]
Anyone who has read Joseph Waumbaugh’s booksvwill be 100% unsurprised. As a kid my Mom warned me never to look at the LAPD or other cops.
posted by Katjusa Roquette at 8:37 PM on November 22, 2019 [5 favorites]
posted by Katjusa Roquette at 8:37 PM on November 22, 2019 [5 favorites]
Lobdell wrote, “By the end of my career, [Border Patrol] knew to always pull in behind when they saw me on a traffic stop. They are fully aware of the bullshit state policy and that ‘real’ officers hate it.”
and there you have it: "real" officers.
posted by srboisvert at 9:08 PM on November 22, 2019 [15 favorites]
and there you have it: "real" officers.
posted by srboisvert at 9:08 PM on November 22, 2019 [15 favorites]
Public bragging about state/local "coordination" with ICE has been going on since 2008.
“If you don’t have enough evidence to charge someone criminally but you think he’s illegal, we can make him disappear.” Those chilling words were spoken by James Pendergraph, then executive director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Office of State and Local Coordination, at a conference of police and sheriffs in August 2008.
posted by Hiding From Goro at 12:41 AM on November 23, 2019 [7 favorites]
“If you don’t have enough evidence to charge someone criminally but you think he’s illegal, we can make him disappear.” Those chilling words were spoken by James Pendergraph, then executive director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Office of State and Local Coordination, at a conference of police and sheriffs in August 2008.
posted by Hiding From Goro at 12:41 AM on November 23, 2019 [7 favorites]
Every case these officers have testified at Duke be retried. They've shown they have no respect for either the law or a sworn oath, which makes their testimony worthless. Publicize it. Have them publicly put on the "we can't trust testimony or arrests from these cops" list. Similarly, any cop who knew about this and didn't let people know that they were ignoring the law being broken should have their cases relitigated. They're not trustworthy and have no respect for the law and juries should know that.
posted by Hactar at 5:30 AM on November 23, 2019 [11 favorites]
posted by Hactar at 5:30 AM on November 23, 2019 [11 favorites]
Have them publicly put on the "we can't trust testimony or arrests from these cops" list.
The police departments' HR people refer to this as "the list of all serving personnel".
posted by howfar at 7:03 AM on November 23, 2019 [14 favorites]
The police departments' HR people refer to this as "the list of all serving personnel".
posted by howfar at 7:03 AM on November 23, 2019 [14 favorites]
“There’s ways around stupid-ass liberal state policy.”
It's not a policy. It's the law.
posted by AJScease at 8:40 AM on November 24, 2019 [1 favorite]
It's not a policy. It's the law.
posted by AJScease at 8:40 AM on November 24, 2019 [1 favorite]
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