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"Hi, welcome to Under a Rock with Tig Notaro. I'm Tig Notaro. I'm a comedian and I don't follow pop culture. I don't watch a lot of TV or movies. So I have a really hard time recognizing famous people. And on this show I interview famous people to try and figure out who they are. Please welcome… this person."
posted by Lexica (119 comments total) 71 users marked this as a favorite
 
Nice. "What's My Line" without panelists, blindfolds or John Charles Daly. Something tells me Taylor Dayne is not likely to be a guest.
posted by zaixfeep at 5:20 PM on December 9, 2019 [25 favorites]


Oh yes will be watching these
posted by solotoro at 5:21 PM on December 9, 2019


It's not that she doesn't know pop culture - it's that she checked out somewhere around the turn of the century.

Which is why Tony Shalhoub's first big show is one of the fastest answers she's gotten.

(Also I saw Tig at a screening of Free Solo when she was in town filming Discovery so she does see some movies)
posted by thecjm at 5:26 PM on December 9, 2019 [3 favorites]


I have only marginally better cultural awareness than Tig, it would seem (this is not some sort of humble-brag, btw. It's just a fact).

I also would not have recognized Lena "Cersei" Headey in a million years. She looks completely different.
posted by It's Never Lurgi at 5:36 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


To the shows credit, it is a little remarkable how similarly deadpan both Alexa and Notaro are.
This is not wrong.
posted by zamboni at 5:39 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


I LOVE Tig Notaro, so it makes me feel really good that of this list of ten people, I have heard of zero of them.
Tig and I can live under a rock together.
posted by Joan Rivers of Babylon at 5:40 PM on December 9, 2019 [8 favorites]


Yes I only know three of the names and would only have recognized Tony Shalhoub, and that would've been from Wings, had a roommate for a couple years, only time had a TV in the house in my lifetime. And Big Night of course.

Do love my Tig though
posted by goinWhereTheClimateSuitsMyClothes at 5:45 PM on December 9, 2019 [2 favorites]


Now that she's a part of the Star Trek Universe, she's become the exact kind of celebrity she would have on her own show. That said, it's sad she missed interviewing D.C.Fontana and Rene Auberjonois.
posted by oneswellfoop at 5:46 PM on December 9, 2019 [7 favorites]


The premise of this show speaks to my heart. I will have to watch it.
posted by ardgedee at 5:53 PM on December 9, 2019


I know 7/10, and wish I only knew 2/10. Tony Shalhoub is a national treasure.
posted by Omon Ra at 5:56 PM on December 9, 2019 [2 favorites]


This show would make a fine B or C story on Discovery. Like, Stamets is out sick and Tig takes over engineering to do this show with Federation dignitaries.
posted by blakewest at 6:06 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


From the Paste review: My only hope is that they get progressively bigger guests as the season goes on. There are five more episodes, and I’m ready to see Tig not recognize Jimmy Carter or DJ Khaled.

I love that this particular pairing is presented as the apotheosis of fame.
posted by eponym at 6:06 PM on December 9, 2019 [29 favorites]


> It's not that she doesn't know pop culture - it's that she checked out somewhere around the turn of the century.

This is more or less my relationship to pop culture.

I know a little about what's going on in a variety of things, because they're ubiquitous parts of the conversations I have with people, with things I see posted on the net, with promotional banners in stores, and so on. Most pop culture don't interest me, and I'm more interested in other things instead.

It's not like I scream the moment somebody begins telling me about a TV show and continue screaming until they give up and go away. I simply don't bother to watch the shows or play the games, and I don't actively seek out more information about the things I've heard of.
posted by ardgedee at 6:07 PM on December 9, 2019 [6 favorites]


Notaro is the only name in this post whose work I would recognize (she's great). Without resorting to Google, I'm pretty confident only that one's a cook (memorable name) and another is a former singer or rapper (another memorable name), and I have no idea what any of them look or sound like. Just Tig Notaro. So this looks like it was made for me.
posted by pracowity at 6:09 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


It's not that she doesn't know pop culture - it's that she checked out somewhere around the turn of the century.

Seemed like she also got Wyclef Jean (of The Fugees), which is also good support for this hypothesis.
posted by kaibutsu at 6:11 PM on December 9, 2019


I have, at least, heard most of those names, except Tig Notaro. Is this going to be actually funny, or just cringeworthy, like Between Two Ferns (I only watched about 3 minutes, in total, due to the Ben Stiller-like cringe factor)?
posted by drivingmenuts at 6:15 PM on December 9, 2019


Ooh, interesting, if only for the fact that it won t have the usual docket of press touring iterants

Unless, don't tell me, Tony Shalhoub wrote a book?
posted by eustatic at 6:21 PM on December 9, 2019


I’m hypersensitive to cringe, and it’s not that cringeworthy - everyone involved seems to be various shades of amused and delighted to be doing an interview where the host is genuinely struggling to come to terms with their celebrity and is relieved to be able to engage with them as a person. It’s very nice.
posted by Merus at 6:25 PM on December 9, 2019 [15 favorites]


I have, at least, heard most of those names, except Tig Notaro. Is this going to be actually funny, or just cringeworthy, like Between Two Ferns (I only watched about 3 minutes, in total, due to the Ben Stiller-like cringe factor)?

Not like between two ferns at all. More an earnest and nice and dryly funny person just not grokking who a celeb. Like when a celeb or pro athlete gets pulled for an person on the street interview and the local tv journalist has no idea who they're talking to but still pleasantly asking them questions
posted by thecjm at 6:27 PM on December 9, 2019


I'm 7/10, but VanDerBeek I only remember as being a young guy on some teevee drama show from around 2000? So I can't say I really know who he is. He just has an interesting name so it stuck in my head.

This is a great idea for a show, and I will watch these. Thanks.
posted by SoberHighland at 6:33 PM on December 9, 2019


I'm 7/10, but VanDerBeek I only remember as being a young guy on some teevee drama show from around 2000? So I can't say I really know who he is.

That is exactly who he still is. Pop cultures attractor basins are really really deep.
posted by srboisvert at 6:36 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


Tig is just a funny person. Just her voice makes me laugh, regardless of if her relatives aren't wearing shoes...

These are great
posted by Windopaene at 6:41 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


Heard of 1/11, but I don't think that qualifies me to have a show.
posted by one for the books at 6:49 PM on December 9, 2019


I dunno Eisen is one of those I'd place in the Shaloub category. He's been around for awhile.
posted by 922257033c4a0f3cecdbd819a46d626999d1af4a at 6:52 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


The Wyclef Jean interview is so joyful.
posted by rogerroger at 6:54 PM on December 9, 2019


Love Tig, love the premise, love the whole tone (though I will still decline to have an Alexa device in my ho’me).

The only one of these guests I’ve never heard of is Rich Eisen, and though I know who Wolfgang Puck is, I’d probably need a couple of hints to match his face to his name. I don’t say this as a brag nor self-deprecatingly, it’s just a data point since we’re all sharing.

But the most amazing part of this show is how Lena Headey showed up cosplaying as every woman I had a crush on in college.
posted by ejs at 7:02 PM on December 9, 2019 [2 favorites]


I love this show so much. Glad to see it getting more notice.

If you're unfamiliar with James Van Der Been absent his teenage work, I highly recommend checking out Don't Trust the B in Apt 23 (biggest bad name to good show ratio of all time), in which he plays a parodied outsized version of himself. It's remarkably great, and he has no problem making fun of himself.
posted by General Malaise at 7:14 PM on December 9, 2019 [8 favorites]


Lena Headey is almost unrecognizable to me here. She smiles so much! I only know her from GoT and I'm pretty sure she never cracked a genuine smile on that show once in eight years—not counting self-satisfied or ironic sneers.
posted by SoberHighland at 7:14 PM on December 9, 2019


The “Something Fierce” production company logo at the end is just perfect.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 7:15 PM on December 9, 2019


Oddly, despite being mostly outside of pop culture for the past decade or so, I recognize everybody except Rich Eisen, and learning he's an NFL commentator, that makes sense.
posted by General Malaise at 7:16 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


Great premise,but I don't recognize any of these people except Shaloub are. (Oh, and Wolfgang Puck and Wyclef Jean, but no way in hell would I recognize them.)
posted by dobbs at 7:21 PM on December 9, 2019


Between Two Ferns (I only watched about 3 minutes, in total, due to the Ben Stiller-like cringe factor)

Yeah, I thought it was weird that the Paste magazine article called it "oddly mean in retrospect" - huh?? It was clearly and deliberately mean!

Anyway, I've only watched a few minutes of Tig's show so far and I'm looking forward to watching the rest.
posted by Greg_Ace at 7:25 PM on December 9, 2019


I'm so out of touch I thought Tig Notaro was a nickname for Laurie Notaro.
posted by Harvey Kilobit at 7:55 PM on December 9, 2019


2/10 for me (where'd you get 11 -- by following the link?), and I wouldn't know what either of them look like. I certainly get that thing hopping off the bus around 2000. By 2004 no one was talking about the previous night's hot show around the water cooler anymore, and there were enough other interesting things going on.

Seems like I should mention how much Laugh-In sucks, both watching it as a kid when it was the previous night's hot show, and more recently watching YT clips.
posted by morspin at 8:14 PM on December 9, 2019


It scares me that I know seven out of these ten people. Esp. someone like Mr. Van der Beek, whose claims to fame I have never watched. Though I do recall him from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 8:24 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


Headey looks 19 years old in that interview, what the seriously fuck
posted by Sterros at 8:39 PM on December 9, 2019 [2 favorites]


Why would someone use the same name as that yummy Finnish fish & potato pie? Either her parents were hugely into the Baltic treat, or some agent played a trick on her. Anyway, I needed the clue to figure out who she was, but would never have placed the name.
posted by morspin at 8:43 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


I'm trying to decide if these are trimmed to time and there's more free association and riffing out there, or if they're just editing out a lot of dead ends. It feels like there's a lot more happening than ended up in the segments, but on the other hand I could see it getting tiring after the 20th minute, too.
posted by Kyol at 9:06 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


I've heard of most of them, but probably wouldn't recognize most. Lena Headey is less than a decade younger than me, but with the glasses on, and not looking too closely, she could pass for a dressed-down Daisy Ridley--they have close to the same smile. Tony Shalhoub I got quickly enough, probably because of Galaxy Quest. That's about it.
posted by Halloween Jack at 9:18 PM on December 9, 2019 [1 favorite]


is this the sort of thing one needs an internet computer to understand?
posted by mwhybark at 9:36 PM on December 9, 2019 [4 favorites]


I don't know who any of the people in that list are.

I do know who Tig Notaro is, thanks to NPR.
posted by hank at 9:45 PM on December 9, 2019 [2 favorites]


This was a delight! The only person I wasn't familiar with was Rich Eisen, but he came in with a big enough personality to still make that episode a lot of fun despite me not being in on the joke like I was with the others. Great concept and even better execution.
posted by northernish at 9:54 PM on December 9, 2019


Great premise,but I don't recognize any of these people except Shaloub are

I think the genius of this premise is both "i know who this person is!" and "i have no idea who this person is" put you squarely in the show's target audience
posted by Jon Mitchell at 10:19 PM on December 9, 2019 [8 favorites]


Other than Tig Notaro, as far as I know I've never even heard any of those names. And Tig Notaro I knew only her name, and maybe sortof had her pegged as a comic. But I'd not have wanted to bet on that.

The Wyclef Jean interview is so joyful.
posted by rogerroger at 8:54 PM on December 9

Thank you, rogerroger -- I selected this one to watch base upon your recommendation. Wyclef Jean reminds me a lot of my younger brother, a happy and happy-go-lucky person. And my brother is a musician, too, I could see him hauling out a guitar then and there, more likely a sax. My younger brother is not a black guy born in Haiti though, and I doubt he's ever even led a mule, much less ridden one. I love him regardless.
posted by dancestoblue at 10:44 PM on December 9, 2019 [3 favorites]


is this the sort of thing one needs an internet computer to understand?

Out of curiosity, are you viewing Metafilter comments as acted out by Punch and Judy puppets, illuminated by candlelight?
posted by Greg_Ace at 10:56 PM on December 9, 2019 [41 favorites]


Would be nice to acknowledge that this concept is lifted from The Tommy Tiernan Show.
posted by GallonOfAlan at 11:02 PM on December 9, 2019


are you viewing Metafilter comments as acted out by Punch and Judy puppets

the last time I closely followed the discussion, i believe it was via your handcarved tweet glyphs, although my memory is not what it once was and the attribution is suspect.
posted by mwhybark at 12:06 AM on December 10, 2019 [6 favorites]


I don't know a lot of the names but Tony Shalhoub ? I'm not the biggest TV watcher but c'mon.... Monk was and is an enormous contribution to the common culture. Tig Notaro's ignorance of his name was just... ignorant. It's like not knowing who Peter Falk or Patrick Stewart are. Her show is well named.
posted by y2karl at 1:04 AM on December 10, 2019 [4 favorites]


I watched the Melissa Joan Hart one, as she was one of the few names I recognized.

Two great lines in this one:

Tig: "I've been dabbling in homosexuality for .... decades."

MJH: "I'll leave you with my pussy."
posted by chavenet at 1:10 AM on December 10, 2019 [2 favorites]


OK, I just watched the Kaley Cuoco one. That was really interesting. I would have guessed she was a comedian. That's got to be weird for a 'famous' person to not be recognized. A friend of mine saw Bruce Springsteen at a little dance bar in the early '80's. He was dancing with this young woman who had no clue who he was, and he liked that she treated him like a regular guy.
Anyway, I recognize 2 names from the list, and could even tell you with some confidence that Puck is/was a chef. Would not have recognized him though. The name Tig Notaro sounded familiar, but I was thinking of some musical performer. It was fun to identify with her. She seemed perfectly comfortable with not knowing.
I think I checked out of pop culture even before Tig did, and mostly only see it in the checkout lines at the grocery store. (Also what I learn here. Now I know who Tig Notaro is.) I don't feel like I'm under a rock, though. I feel like pop culture left me before I left it.
posted by MtDewd at 4:11 AM on December 10, 2019


What a weird Alexa commercial.
posted by k8lin at 5:41 AM on December 10, 2019 [7 favorites]


The thing I most enjoy about thin-tail culture is that I can be blissfully ignorant of most of the people on that list under the age of 40 ... I still resent as someone who didn't watch their shows or eat in their restaurants that the prior belly-of-the-curve-culture inflicted upon me an awareness of Melissa Joan Hart, James Van Der Beek and Wolfgang Puck, for all that I have nothing against, or I suppose, for, them as people or actors/chefs.
posted by MattD at 6:06 AM on December 10, 2019


I don't even recognize any of the "famous person" names in the post, except maybe Wolfgang Puck, but I thought that was a pizza chain in Los Angeles.
posted by heatherlogan at 6:06 AM on December 10, 2019


I've never recognized anyone for anything at any time, ever.
posted by Diskeater at 6:27 AM on December 10, 2019 [13 favorites]


A decade and a half ago I was in New York City with my then-sweetie (nine years my junior) and we passed a red carpet event where some minor celebrities were working their way up the rope line. On one side of the red carpet was a three-named actress (Melissa Joan Hart? Evan Rachel Wood? Sarah Michelle Gellar? Jennifer Love Hewitt?) and on the other was Academy Award-winning actor Louis Gossett Jr.

I said, “Hey, there’s Louis Gossett Jr!” while simultaneously she said, “Hey, there is (Threenames)!” In perfect sync we turned to face each other and said, “Who?”
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:58 AM on December 10, 2019 [3 favorites]


Reminder that there is a YouTube walkout in effect from today (December 10) through December 13. This is because YouTube wants the right to summarily boot content that is not "commercially viable."

More info here and here.

Don't be a scab.
posted by Sheydem-tants at 7:01 AM on December 10, 2019 [11 favorites]


Would be nice to acknowledge that this concept is lifted from The Tommy Tiernan Show.

OK, I've actually heard of Tommy Tiernan! He's very funny!

These days, I only know of the people who get ridiculously famous, like Lil NasX, Cardi B, Billie Eilish. TV and most movies and most pop music, not so much. OLD! For pop culture purposes, I'm old and no one cares what I think or wishes to get my attention. And that's OK, I'm fine with that.

Of the list posted above, I'd heard of almost all of the names, but some of them I'd never known what they looked like, including Tig. Glenn Howerton, however, got a "Well, who's that, then?" and a trip to Wikipedia from me.
posted by droplet at 7:04 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


I can’t fully enjoy this because it means she’s not working on another season of “One Mississippi.”
posted by amanda at 7:10 AM on December 10, 2019 [6 favorites]


Glen Howerton is the only one I don't recognize the name but I recognize the face.
posted by Ber at 7:13 AM on December 10, 2019


This is absolutely delightful.
posted by thivaia at 7:14 AM on December 10, 2019


Heh, come to think of it, I really didn't know who Tig Notaro is either, other than maybe a comedian or comedy writer that is mentioned here sometimes? It does come across as heavily edited in a weird way. And yeah, it's a ham-handed ad for Alexa. But I enjoyed the few I watched.

(It's also a weird ad for Alexa. I should buy an Alexa to use as a sort of post-era-of-irony comedy prop? I still don't get the appeal of those things)
posted by SoberHighland at 7:28 AM on December 10, 2019


I watched the one with Julie Bowen. Even though I have seen many, many episodes of "Modern Family," I would not have been able to name the actor. Might have got Clare Dunphy under duress, never Julie Bowen.
posted by chavenet at 7:29 AM on December 10, 2019


This is amazing.
posted by odinsdream at 8:10 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Hey, a case where it can be *good* to comment without RTFA (WTFVs?). I have kind of a skimming relationship to most pop culture, picking it up by osmosis without consuming these days, so let's see how I do.

I definitely recognize 5/10 names and feel like I've got a pretty good grasp of who all of those are. 2 more I kind of recognize the name without any real idea of who they are. The other 3 feel like very generic names that I may have heard but left no impression.

Of the 5 I know, I don't believe I've ever watched a single episode of the 6+ TV shows I associate with them, though I have seen some movies for Shalhoub.
posted by Four Ds at 8:29 AM on December 10, 2019


I watched the James van der Beek one months ago and then forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder! I just watched all of them. (Sorry, boss). I know who all the people are but I don't know that I'd recognize them on the street - definitely not Kaley Cuoco, and maybe not Lena Headly and Julie Bowen, although I think them being styled so differently from their characters had a lot to do with it.

The Alexa stuff is kind of a bummer, but I also think Tig is great and you know, artists have to make money somehow. This is the world we live in.
posted by something something at 8:35 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Well. I had planned to be productive this morning. I should get some points for thinking about trying, right?
posted by Godspeed.You!Black.Emperor.Penguin at 8:36 AM on December 10, 2019


> "I only know of the people who get ridiculously famous, like Lil NasX, Cardi B, Billie Eilish."

I've heard of almost all the people who went on Tig Notaro's show, so I'm clearly not entirely celebrity ignorant, but, um ... who? Like, based on the first two names, I would guess probably singers or rappers?

"Ridiculously famous" may be very, very relative ...
posted by kyrademon at 8:45 AM on December 10, 2019 [6 favorites]


This is hilarious. And I was never a Dawson's Creek person, but the James Van Der Beek interview is a reminder that James Van Der Beek has been incredibly charming at the business of being James Van Der Beek for the last decade.*

*Dawson's Creek was 22 years ago! Wow!
posted by grandiloquiet at 8:52 AM on December 10, 2019 [6 favorites]


Also, Tony Shalhoub was in Wings?!
posted by grandiloquiet at 8:53 AM on December 10, 2019


Only ones I really didn't have a clue about were Julie Bowen and Glenn Howerton. Julie Bowen was in Happy Gilmore? OK, barely remember her in that. Howerton was in the first season of Fargo? Loved that show, barely remember his role.
posted by e1c at 8:54 AM on December 10, 2019


James Van Der Beek doing this is so on brand for James Van Der Beek that I wouldn't be surprised if James Van Der Beek paid to be in this in the same way Amazon pays for Alexa to be in this. This thing is like peak Van Der Beek.
posted by jacquilynne at 8:54 AM on December 10, 2019 [8 favorites]


Also, Tony Shalhoub was in Wings?!

Not in the first season, but a main character for the last six seasons.
posted by e1c at 8:57 AM on December 10, 2019 [2 favorites]


James Van Der Beek doing this is so on brand for James Van Der Beek that I wouldn't be surprised if James Van Der Beek paid to be in this in the same way Amazon pays for Alexa to be in this. This thing is like peak Van Der Beek.

Amazon doesn't pay to be in this. Amazon created this and pays Tig Notaro to be in it.

We are now beyond product placements in shows. The product placement has eaten the show. This is part of what makes the show so awkwardly fascinating and also kind of cringy repellent. Alexa knows all and Tig knows so little.
posted by srboisvert at 8:59 AM on December 10, 2019


I like how she interviews people and I like what this setup lets the interviews be about.
posted by odinsdream at 9:23 AM on December 10, 2019


After watching a few episodes I think it could use some tweaking. Tig's complete unawareness of who they are is fun, but I'd like to see a little more interviewing of them as a person. It would probably go into some bizarre directions.

The mix of celebrities is fun. There are people I know of and recognize (Tony Shalhoub and, probably, Wolfgang Puck), people I know of and am surprised I didn't recognize (Lena Headey, who looks about 18 in that interview), people I know of and would never have recognized (Wyclef Jean), and people I've sort of vaguely heard of or have heard of the show they were in, but would never have identified in a million years. I know that "Dawson's Creek" was a show, but that's it. Ditto for "8 Simple Rules". I'd probably recognize a couple of people from "Big Bang Theory", but would never come up with their names (and Kaley Cuoco would not be one of the ones I'd recognize. There are a lot of young, blond actresses in Hollywood and they are all starting to blend together for me. Unless I'm a fan, I have no chance of telling them apart).
posted by It's Never Lurgi at 9:45 AM on December 10, 2019


Till recently I thought Cardi B was Kim Kardashian, and failed to recognize the latter in a Facebook post. But then back when people were watching Beverly Hills 90210 I could not keep Luke Perry and the other guy (Brandon? Brendon?) straight because it was two generic-looking guys with cool hair and sideburns. I did recognize 4/10 names on the list:

* Wolfgang Puck - the celebrity frozen pizza guy
* Tony Shalhoub - was on a thing called Monk that was supposed to be good.
* Wyclef Jean - I know he's a music guy.
* Lena Headey - Cersei because I watched GoT.

But based on pictures, I bet I could only name 1 of these. Tig Notaro is genuinely hilarious so I'm looking forward to these.
posted by freecellwizard at 9:46 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


I like the idea here, even if it is an Amazon joint.

I recognize...most? of these for some reason. Just not the Always Sunny guy, which I don't watch, the Game of Thrones woman, which I didn't watch, and Rich Eisen, who is a sportsball person, which I don't watch often enough to know.

I would always know who Wyclef Jean is by name, but the only reason why I really know what he looks like is from his foray into Trump'ian charities back in the days of the earthquake in Haiti, and the controversy thereof.

Tony Shalhoub:Wings::Joe Rogan:News Radio.

I'm a little surprised that anybody of Metafilter Age (don't @ me) wouldn't know who Tony Shalhoub is. Oddly, there's no MeFi post about the people who have attempted the Timpano from Big Night!

Would be nice to acknowledge that this concept is lifted from The Tommy Tiernan Show.

Who's Tommy Tiernan?
posted by rhizome at 10:05 AM on December 10, 2019 [2 favorites]


Monk was and is an enormous contribution to the common culture.

Meh, chalk me up as ignorant too, then, because other than being vaguely aware that a show with that name existed, I wouldn't be able to tell you anything about it.

I'd recognize Tony Shaloub's face and would know that he's an actor, but without clues I don't think I'd be able to identify a show he's been in, even though I've seen at least a few. I don't know if I'd even remember his name if I was put on the spot (of course, I've now read it several dozen times in this thread, so I'll probably remember it from now on).
posted by asnider at 10:09 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Monk's not a cultural touchstone of any kind to me, 36 years old here.
posted by odinsdream at 10:21 AM on December 10, 2019 [4 favorites]


I am also 36, lest anyone think I'm a brash young Zoomer who is ignorant of Monk solely because of my age.
posted by asnider at 10:22 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


I'm sad that so many of the people in this thread talking about Tony Shaloub aren't aware of Galaxy Quest.
posted by Greg_Ace at 10:26 AM on December 10, 2019 [15 favorites]


I'm also 36, and I have heard of Tony Shalhoub. I knew him from Wings, but I also know of Monk which I have not seen. 36 year olds: a land of contrasts.

These things on Metafilter always make me aware of how much pop culture I must consume, because I knew everyone by name except Julie Bowen who I would recognize if I saw her. I'm not sure I'd ID Rich Eisen by sight and Kaley Cuoco looks different than I picture her, but like I know who Wyclef Jean is, even if the only song he does that I can think of off hand is that one with The Rock.

Thankfully an actress from Suite Life on Deck came along to ruin my streak.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 10:29 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Julie Bowen is someone who I would still be calling "isn't that Cheryl Hines?" if my brother hadn't said he has a celebrity crush on her. It was then that I noticed her (possibly Bechdel-friendly) role in Happy Gilmore.
posted by rhizome at 10:37 AM on December 10, 2019


Wings was on for seven seasons?
posted by SoberHighland at 10:42 AM on December 10, 2019


Tig: "Why on earth did you do this show?"
Lena Headey: "Cause I think you're a mad genius."
Tig: "I guess that's what I wanted to hear."
posted by hototogisu at 11:01 AM on December 10, 2019 [7 favorites]


Sorry, rhizome, I'm 53 and I've never heard of Tony Shalhoub. (What is metafilter age BTW?) I've heard of Wolfgang Puck and Wyclef Jean, but I couldn't pick either of them out of a lineup. I *might* recognize Kaley Cuoco, but it depends on her haircut, I think.

But! I have heard of Tig and watched a comedy special she did on Netflix which was really funny. Go watch it!
posted by tuesdayschild at 11:24 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


51 and I knew Monk was a show and Shaloub started in it and I think I watched a couple episodes here and there but I have no idea what sort of "cultural touchstone" it would be.

And I also know him from Galaxy Quest and a bit part in one of the first 2 Men In Black movies.
posted by soundguy99 at 11:45 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Not to turn this into Tony Shaloub’s IMDb page, but I’m surprised no one mentioned that he is currently starting in a popular, award winning Amazon Prine Video series, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Corporate synergy!
posted by ejs at 11:51 AM on December 10, 2019 [5 favorites]


I’m surprised no one mentioned that he is currently starting in a popular, award winning Amazon Prine Video series, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.

Yeah, you’d think they would have mentioned it in the episode or something. 🍔
posted by zamboni at 11:57 AM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


are you viewing Metafilter comments as acted out by Punch and Judy puppets

I sense a MeTa pony request....
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:01 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Amazon doesn't pay to be in this. Amazon created this and pays Tig Notaro to be in it.

I actually did know that, I just thought the peak James Van Der Beek comment was funnier when comparing James Van Der Beek to product placement.
posted by jacquilynne at 12:11 PM on December 10, 2019 [2 favorites]


I'd like to see a little more interviewing of them as a person.

Yes - it was lovely, but it felt like it stopped just as it was getting going. The bit about guessing the guest is a fun intro, but then a fuller interview would be good.

It works because Tig is so good, and they've chosen the guests wisely. With other people involved it could be dreadful.

Alexa, post my comment to Metafilter.
posted by YoungStencil at 12:13 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


I stayed up late watching all of these, so thank you for posting this charming set of distractions. I know who all those people are, although Howerton and Headey are the least familiar to me. I thought Tony Shalhoub and Kaley Cuoco were super charming.
posted by 41swans at 12:14 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


The only person I wasn't familiar with was Rich Eisen,

Well, he's the face of the NFL Network, so if you don't care about football it's understandable. Not everyone has seen him run the 40 yard dash during 3-day Combine coverage on multiple occasions.

On the other hand, 46 of the 50 highest rated TV programs this year are NFL games, so he's pretty darned famous too. Perfect choice for this show.
posted by msalt at 12:15 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Rich Eisen is really famous and I'm most familiar with him from his SportsCenter days, but I sat there watching that interview thinking, "would I really recognize him on the street?" I don't know if it's the lack of context or what, but he doesn't look like I'd expect. Maybe it's the balding.
posted by something something at 12:21 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


I can relate to Tig on this. I often fail to recognize people I know personally, let alone celebrities. I once served an icee to Venus Williams and chatted briefly without realizing who she was. One of my coworkers had to come over and tell me I had just made idle conversatoin with one of the world's most famous and recognizable athletes, after which it seemed abundantly obvious who she was because Venus Williams looks like a comic book super hero walking around in the real world, but somehow I missed it. She was nice.
posted by Phobos the Space Potato at 12:21 PM on December 10, 2019 [7 favorites]


are you viewing Metafilter comments as acted out by Punch and Judy puppets

I sense a MeTa pony request....


I think a two-people-in-a-pony-costume request would be more appropriate.
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:59 PM on December 10, 2019 [5 favorites]


This is my wife and I love her, though I'd much rather be watching her in a season 3 of One Mississippi. Her brief moments as a wry, snarky butch scrooge is enough to make my heart flutter though.
posted by FirstMateKate at 1:25 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Y'all. Isn't Tony Shaloub the alien who always got his head shot off in the pawn shop in Men in Black? Doesn't everyone know that?

Seconding JVDB in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

And Tig's standup where she talks about having cancer--This American Life maybe?--is amazing.
posted by Snowishberlin at 1:37 PM on December 10, 2019 [2 favorites]


Lena Headey, who looks about 18 in that interview
Oh right, she was in 1992's Waterland!

Four years ago I floated Notaro as a replacement for the exiting Jon Stewart, and I have a toasty, smug feeling because she is a good, funny interviewer, even with this framing device.

Snowishberlin, a 2012 This American Life episode, What Doesn't Kill You, has an excerpt from that set.
posted by Iris Gambol at 2:10 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


I just watched all of these and really love Tig and the concept. It’s a fun watch. A couple of the guests didn’t seem to click totally, but enough of them seemed to be having a good time. I especially liked how some of them were genuinely enjoying not being recognized.

......................
Tig's complete unawareness of who they are is fun, but I'd like to see a little more interviewing of them as a person.

It’s pretty obvious that there’s probably a lot of stuff left on the virtual editing floor. I’d love to see them lengthen the episodes and get in more back-and-forth with the guests. In a couple of them, it seemed like Tig asked one question and then went straight to the reveal.
posted by Thorzdad at 2:13 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


People whose name I recognized, but who I wouldn't be able to identify if they were in front of me:
Tig Notaro
Wolfgang Puck

People whose name I recognized and who I would be able to identify if they were in front of me:
James Van Der Beek
Wyclef Jean
Melissa Joan Hart
Kaley Cuoco
Tony Shalhoub

People whose name I did not recognize, but I totally could identify (at least one) reason why they are famous if they were in front of me:
Glenn Howerton

People whose name I did not recognize, and who I would not be able to identify if they were in front of me, and then I googled them and I hadn't seen any of the things they were famous for being in:
Lena Headey
Rich Eisen

People whose name I did not recognize, and who I would not be able to identify if they were in front of me, but then I googled them and I went "oooohhhh, I have seen (at least one) of the things that they're famous for":
Julie Bowen

Okay, so I started off watching the Julie Bowen one, and if I hadn't looked up her credits first, I would have been right alongside Notaro if I had to try and figure out who she was by interviewing her. Like, when she drew the couch, I too thought "Ohhhh, she must be on a show like The View or something". Ha, these are great.
posted by 23skidoo at 4:05 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


JVDB was also good in The Rules of Attraction, a decent, para-prequel to American Psycho made by the Tarantino-pal who did Killing Zoe (a movie probably about as well-known as Tony Shalhoub) and who also wrote Pulp Fiction.
posted by rhizome at 4:24 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


If anyone wants it: Playlist (RSS)
posted by WCityMike at 4:46 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Also, new one today: Debby Ryan (wiki)
posted by WCityMike at 4:51 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


Lena Headey is almost unrecognizable to me here. She smiles so much! I only know her from GoT and I'm pretty sure she never cracked a genuine smile on that show once in eight years—not counting self-satisfied or ironic sneers.

Funnily enough, I only really know Lena Headey from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (fantastic, by the by), and while the sneer quotient is quite a bit lower, your comment still basically applies otherwise!
posted by chrominance at 4:52 PM on December 10, 2019 [1 favorite]


First of all, all these years I thought her name was Lena Head-ly.

Second, as she was one of few whose name I recognized and whom I thought I would recognize on sight, to be presented with this extremely un-Cersei-looking woman, I wish her name hadn't been on the episode title so I could've played along. Because, holy shit with the glasses and the hair and the laughing, I am gobsmacked.

It's like when I found out that the psycho assassin actress in Killing Eve, Jody Cormer, was the same as the sweet teenage health care aide trying to take care of her falling apart family and elderly patients in Remember Me. >POW!< head explodes.
posted by TWinbrook8 at 6:48 AM on December 11, 2019


the psycho assassin actress in Killing Eve, Jody Cormer, was the same as the sweet teenage health care aide trying to take care of her falling apart family and elderly patients in Remember Me

For non-Brits, FYI, this is something on the Beeb, not the awful 2001 Robert Pattinson film.
posted by WCityMike at 8:02 AM on December 11, 2019


First of all, all these years I thought her name was Lena Head-ly.

Harvey Korman spins in his grave!
posted by rhizome at 8:12 AM on December 11, 2019 [5 favorites]


I love “UARWTN”, love Tig.

I don’t think Tig would make a very good interview show without the premise.

Being an actual talk-show host is a skill. Jimmy Fallon sucks. Dick Cavett was the Demigod of intellectual discussion on TV. Johnny Carson could interview anybody. Graham Norton is charming, informed, AND provides wine for those waiting in the Green Rooom.

Oprah is... Oprah. ‘Nuff said.

Sean Evans of “Hot Ones” is one of the best currently. He’s one of the best because not only does he know the guest, but he’s got one of the better research teams out there; every interview has someone complimenting him on good questions that few people ask.

Tig is warm and pleasant and soothing like a cup pf tea on a cold afternoon. Love it. “Under a Rock” is perfect because of the premise.

“Tea Time with Tig” would be... just another interview show in a sea of them, done by someone not conversant in popular culture.

She’s quirky and sweet and non-threatening. But I really don’t think she has the chops to sit down with a prepared guest and interview them And make it an interesting watch. Her strengths lie elsewhere.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 8:56 AM on December 11, 2019 [2 favorites]


This may not be obvious, but as an Amazon (tm) product, you folks with the Amazon streaming service can also watch it there (there's no additional content, if you were wondering, although it looks like a new episode may drop soon).
posted by It's Never Lurgi at 9:42 AM on December 11, 2019 [1 favorite]


I only really know Lena Headey from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (fantastic, by the by),

A decade ago I was dispatched by my job to a remote snowy posting where I found myself essentially looking after a closed-for-the-season Victorian hotel (think The Shining but with far fewer axe murders). I brought along a couple of DVD boxed sets to pass my evenings; as I had just watched season one of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, I brought along season two. The other boxed set was the complete series of The Wire.

I still have never seen the second season of The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 9:00 PM on December 11, 2019 [1 favorite]


First of all, all these years I thought her name was Lena Head-ly.

You are perhaps mixing her up with the late Glenne Headly, an actress whose level of fame was about commensurate with pre-GOT Lena Headey.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 9:03 PM on December 11, 2019


It's like not knowing who Peter Falk or Patrick Stewart are.

Stewart's a bit less likely, since TNG and the X-Men movies that he was in were more recently popular and Picard has gotten a lot of buzz, but Peter Falk? Columbo was a great character, but probably most non-boomers these days know him as the grandpa from The Princess Bride, and may not know the actor's name.
posted by Halloween Jack at 8:22 PM on December 13, 2019


Columbo was a great character, but probably most non-boomers these days know him as the grandpa from The Princess Bride,

I submit many may think of him as the proof-of-concept prototype of Mark Ruffalo.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 8:41 PM on December 13, 2019 [3 favorites]


I submit many may think of him as the proof-of-concept prototype of Mark Ruffalo.

Oooh, interesting! I've never seen Columbo, but the entire time I was watching him in Wings of Desire, I had a feeling that there was a big cultural trope/undercurrent I was just utterly missing out on. This helps.
posted by kalimac at 9:13 PM on December 13, 2019


For the best proto-Ruffalo Falk, see 1979's The In-Laws.
posted by Iris Gambol at 10:08 AM on December 17, 2019 [1 favorite]


I had a feeling that there was a big cultural trope/undercurrent I was just utterly missing out on...

He was in a couple of John Cassavetes films -- Husbands and A Woman Under the Influence -- as well.
posted by y2karl at 11:49 AM on December 21, 2019 [1 favorite]


A friend was a Japanese language and literature major who back in the day taught English in Japan as alternate service to the draft. His high school students were always begging him to do the classic Colombo wind up 'Oh, and I just have one more question, etc...' in Japanese or English but he'd never seen either.
posted by y2karl at 12:00 PM on December 21, 2019


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