You’d be surprised how little blood it actually takes to do a painting
January 1, 2020 1:14 AM Subscribe
(seriously, though, that mask is freaky as hell... twenty years ago it would've given me nightmares, I'm sure)
posted by spoobnooble II: electric bugaboo at 2:19 AM on January 1, 2020
posted by spoobnooble II: electric bugaboo at 2:19 AM on January 1, 2020
Between this and the witch bottle drinkin' dude it seems 2020 is the year of "starting it off like an eighties slasher film".
Only this time it'll turn out the killer was hepatitis all along!
posted by Jilder at 2:41 AM on January 1, 2020 [18 favorites]
Only this time it'll turn out the killer was hepatitis all along!
posted by Jilder at 2:41 AM on January 1, 2020 [18 favorites]
Something really makes me doubt that it's actually Manson's ashes when this
'According to Almighty, he received the cremated remains used in the Manson masks from someone who attended Manson’s funeral.'
is the stated means of procurement.
Then I did a little more reading, and he had an open casket funeral prior to being cremated, and that his cremains went to a grandson who was publically respectful about the whole deal, so that sounds increasingly suspect, and then I double checked and no, you can't DNA test cremains either. I'm also fairly certain that stealing or otherwise interfering with cremains is the same crime as with a corpse, so whoever did sneak out a ziploc of Manson-ash probably committed a pretty serious crime, and I bet selling stolen ashes is also illegal. I'd be fascinated by any precedent.
So it's probably one of three things, I think
1. It is Manson ash, it was secreted by a funeral attendee (or possibly someone at the crematorium?) and delivered to Almighty without the grandson's permission, which seems pretty illegal, and at minimum ethically wrong.
2. It is Manson ash, it was delivered to him secretly by the grandson, the only legal owner of those ashes, who in this case is a creepy guy under a facade of caring about his grandfather. This probably is totally legal and fine.
3. It's not Manson ashes, it's whoever's ashes, and they are banking on the impossibility of DNA testing to boost the masks value, and either know more than me about the legality of it, less, or don't care at all.
So in summation, I think I may have discovered some True Crime within this True Crime Murderabilia scandal, or at the very least some unusual twist.
posted by neonrev at 6:38 AM on January 1, 2020 [15 favorites]
'According to Almighty, he received the cremated remains used in the Manson masks from someone who attended Manson’s funeral.'
is the stated means of procurement.
Then I did a little more reading, and he had an open casket funeral prior to being cremated, and that his cremains went to a grandson who was publically respectful about the whole deal, so that sounds increasingly suspect, and then I double checked and no, you can't DNA test cremains either. I'm also fairly certain that stealing or otherwise interfering with cremains is the same crime as with a corpse, so whoever did sneak out a ziploc of Manson-ash probably committed a pretty serious crime, and I bet selling stolen ashes is also illegal. I'd be fascinated by any precedent.
So it's probably one of three things, I think
1. It is Manson ash, it was secreted by a funeral attendee (or possibly someone at the crematorium?) and delivered to Almighty without the grandson's permission, which seems pretty illegal, and at minimum ethically wrong.
2. It is Manson ash, it was delivered to him secretly by the grandson, the only legal owner of those ashes, who in this case is a creepy guy under a facade of caring about his grandfather. This probably is totally legal and fine.
3. It's not Manson ashes, it's whoever's ashes, and they are banking on the impossibility of DNA testing to boost the masks value, and either know more than me about the legality of it, less, or don't care at all.
So in summation, I think I may have discovered some True Crime within this True Crime Murderabilia scandal, or at the very least some unusual twist.
posted by neonrev at 6:38 AM on January 1, 2020 [15 favorites]
The murderabilia world has already been scammed by John Wayne Gacy himself. He had an assembly line of other prisoners painting pictures for him that he would then sign himself.
Oh, and lol at Manson's friend (Seriously, what kind of person makes friends with Charles Manson? Why would you do that?) who finds the mask disrespectful to Manson.
posted by LindsayIrene at 8:20 AM on January 1, 2020 [5 favorites]
Oh, and lol at Manson's friend (Seriously, what kind of person makes friends with Charles Manson? Why would you do that?) who finds the mask disrespectful to Manson.
posted by LindsayIrene at 8:20 AM on January 1, 2020 [5 favorites]
Woah, last I heard, Manson was still alive and attempting parole every so often. I missed the part where he died. Good riddance.
posted by mantecol at 9:23 AM on January 1, 2020
posted by mantecol at 9:23 AM on January 1, 2020
The mask's expression is as if Manson has just unexpectedly shit his pants.
posted by axiom at 10:13 AM on January 1, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by axiom at 10:13 AM on January 1, 2020 [1 favorite]
3. It's not Manson ashes, it's whoever's ashes, and they are banking on the impossibility of DNA testing to boost the masks value, and either know more than me about the legality of it, less, or don't care at all.
Probably a cheap cut of beef hit with a butane torch for a few minutes and stirred up.
No not even that, creepy entrepreneur scammer probably just shoveled a bit from under his gas grill into a baggie.
(really, what is the matter with these people?)
posted by sammyo at 10:48 AM on January 1, 2020 [1 favorite]
Probably a cheap cut of beef hit with a butane torch for a few minutes and stirred up.
No not even that, creepy entrepreneur scammer probably just shoveled a bit from under his gas grill into a baggie.
(really, what is the matter with these people?)
posted by sammyo at 10:48 AM on January 1, 2020 [1 favorite]
This is the kind of market where scamming people might be considered a public good.
posted by benzenedream at 12:41 PM on January 1, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by benzenedream at 12:41 PM on January 1, 2020 [1 favorite]
I'm starting to resent prefabricated outrage like this. But then I have outrage fatigue. Like, an actual headache.
I do like the moral clusterfuck of it all though. It takes so many moral u-turns that there's really no way to say if this is Bad or Good or GoodBad or BadGood.
posted by svenni at 8:41 PM on January 1, 2020 [1 favorite]
I do like the moral clusterfuck of it all though. It takes so many moral u-turns that there's really no way to say if this is Bad or Good or GoodBad or BadGood.
posted by svenni at 8:41 PM on January 1, 2020 [1 favorite]
Proposal for an Impossible Art Project:
A mask painted with paint including the cremains of Charles Manson
It is later revealed that the paint is derived from the ashes of Mr Rogers
It is, later again, revealed that the mask was painted by the shaking hand of Henry Kissinger as a cold gun barrel pushed into the back of his head
posted by thatwhichfalls at 4:10 PM on January 2, 2020
A mask painted with paint including the cremains of Charles Manson
It is later revealed that the paint is derived from the ashes of Mr Rogers
It is, later again, revealed that the mask was painted by the shaking hand of Henry Kissinger as a cold gun barrel pushed into the back of his head
posted by thatwhichfalls at 4:10 PM on January 2, 2020
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Also, looking at a picture of a Charles Manson mask made with blood and human ashes is not how I expected to start 2020.
posted by spoobnooble II: electric bugaboo at 2:16 AM on January 1, 2020 [6 favorites]