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January 3, 2020 8:42 AM   Subscribe

Who Really Killed Jimmy Hoffa? (And was the frozen salmon a red herring?) Filmmaker Errol Morris (many previouslies) talks to former George W. Bush Administration official Jack Goldsmith about Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance in the context of the recent release of Martin Scorsese's The Irishman. [FanFare link]

Goldsmith is the stepson of Chuckie O'Brien, who in turn was the unofficial "foster son" of Hoffa. (O'Brien was played by Jesse Plemons in The Irishman.) In "My Family Story of Love, the Mob, and Government Surveillance" [Atlantic], Goldsmith makes the connection between O'Brien and his own later work with the W Administration's "Stellarwind" warrantless surveillance program.
posted by Halloween Jack (15 comments total) 14 users marked this as a favorite
 
There was also a recent episode of Fresh Air with this gentleman. Fascinating. Having heard this made watching "The Irishman" a bit more interesting as well.
posted by hwestiii at 9:09 AM on January 3 [1 favorite]


And now I never want to eat sausage again.
posted by valkane at 9:38 AM on January 3 [1 favorite]


And now I never want to eat sausage again.
posted by valkane at 9:38 AM on January 3 [1 favorite +] [!]


Aaannddd... now I never want to read the article.
posted by latkes at 10:24 AM on January 3 [15 favorites]


And now I never want to eat sausage again.

don't worry, that could never happen today
posted by entropicamericana at 10:39 AM on January 3 [3 favorites]


And now I never want to eat sausage again.

Adds a couple layers meaning to his foster son being called Chuckie. Ground? or Up?
posted by srboisvert at 11:33 AM on January 3 [2 favorites]


Leave the sausage – take the cannoli.
posted by pracowity at 11:52 AM on January 3 [3 favorites]


The fish argument in the car was very funny to me, but I figured it was just a non sequitur. I didn't realize it actually played a significant part in the alibi of the Jesse Plemons character. History!
posted by Atom Eyes at 12:16 PM on January 3 [1 favorite]


If they put one of our guys in the hospital, we put one of theirs in the salami.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 12:34 PM on January 3 [6 favorites]


Christopher Lydon, excellent interviewer, spoke with Goldsmith in November. Lydon's show, Radio Open Source, is among the few must-listens in my podcast feed.
posted by conscious matter at 12:49 PM on January 3 [3 favorites]


hoffa can have be a little salami
posted by entropicamericana at 1:21 PM on January 3 [2 favorites]


The fish argument in the car

...is my next sockpuppet name.
posted by Greg_Ace at 1:27 PM on January 3 [2 favorites]


Agreed on Radio Open Source, conscious matter.
posted by doctornemo at 4:16 PM on January 3


As a teenager I used to drive (or ride) up and down Telegraph. We always acknowledged the Hoffa site.
posted by doctornemo at 4:16 PM on January 3


In observance of Betteridge's Law, no. No, you can't.
posted by ivanthenotsoterrible at 7:23 PM on January 3


As a teenager we used to eat at Machus Red Fox for very special occasions. I had no idea what had (perhaps) happened there!
posted by 41swans at 9:03 PM on January 3


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