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Gotta Go Fast: Why Gaming IP Is Finally Taking Off in Film/TV - "The sudden embrace and success of gaming IP is somewhat of a surprise... when these films were produced, they tended to be both critical and commercial disasters... This created a vicious cycle: audiences learned video game movies were bad, making it even harder for the best film to succeed, and histories of failure meant major talent would stay away from future adaptations and IP owners were reluctant to adapt their best IP. Why, then, is everything changing so quickly and why now? I think there are seven core reasons."
The “carrying capacity” of these franchises and universes used to be medium-specific—there was a fight to be one of the winning comic books, video games, or film franchises. This meant there was room for many winners across mediums, and that the reach of any winner was limited.The Last of Us HBO TV series release date, cast and plot - "Even given the pedigree of the talent associated with The Last of Us, fans of the original IP are likely awaiting the TV series' bow on HBO with qualified excitement. Let's address some of the basic questions surrounding the project."[2]
Soon, it will be a fight for dominance between all franchises and across all mediums. Every story will need to grow into more categories and capture an ever-increasing share of audience time. Games, however ascendant as a medium, will need to expand too.[1]
"Two of the biggest celebrities of the past decade, PewDiePie and Ninja, built their brands almost exclusively based on video gaming."
Um, while these two are well known in gaming circles and online, etc., to call them two of the biggest celebrities of the past decade is kind of stretching it. No one over 35 has any idea who they are.
This is written by someone trying to sell something.
posted by MythMaker at 2:36 AM on March 7, 2020 [27 favorites]
Um, while these two are well known in gaming circles and online, etc., to call them two of the biggest celebrities of the past decade is kind of stretching it. No one over 35 has any idea who they are.
This is written by someone trying to sell something.
posted by MythMaker at 2:36 AM on March 7, 2020 [27 favorites]
can't wait for the "fight for dominance between all franchises and across all mediums." sounds fucking exhausting
posted by Bwentman at 3:44 AM on March 7, 2020 [7 favorites]
posted by Bwentman at 3:44 AM on March 7, 2020 [7 favorites]
In my various professional roles I have read this kind of breathlessly effusive but evidence elusive pitch so many times. And yes, it's a pitch.
There are only three actual gaming IPs listed as successes- Rampage which is actually a "The Rock" film and which nobody outside the business or trivia buffs remembers, and Shonky the Hodgehodge/Detective Pikachu which are both firmly established brands with long time media profiles.
As William Goldman said about Hollywood, "Nobody knows anything". So yes, I am sure that we will see an uptick in gaming based product but it will be followed by an equally fast die off as we saw with all the Northern Exposure, Lost, Twin Peaks clones or the Shonky cartoons and comics.
Any way, forget film, the fashion industry is the one that should focus on gaming IP!
posted by fallingbadgers at 4:18 AM on March 7, 2020 [8 favorites]
There are only three actual gaming IPs listed as successes- Rampage which is actually a "The Rock" film and which nobody outside the business or trivia buffs remembers, and Shonky the Hodgehodge/Detective Pikachu which are both firmly established brands with long time media profiles.
As William Goldman said about Hollywood, "Nobody knows anything". So yes, I am sure that we will see an uptick in gaming based product but it will be followed by an equally fast die off as we saw with all the Northern Exposure, Lost, Twin Peaks clones or the Shonky cartoons and comics.
Any way, forget film, the fashion industry is the one that should focus on gaming IP!
posted by fallingbadgers at 4:18 AM on March 7, 2020 [8 favorites]
This makes me wonder what the most difficult video game to put on film or video would be. Pac Man already had a Saturday morning cartoon series. Space Invaders is so abstract that you could pretty much do anything with it as long as it involves shooting spaceships. If you want to dig into old, weird and obscure, even things like Dig Dug, Burger Time, or Centipede wouldn't be difficult. Tempest, even more than Space Invaders, is an interactive geometric abstraction rather than a concept. You could do anything vaguely space-themed and assign it Tempest IP.
Super Meat Boy, maybe? It's not that there's nothing to hang a story on, it's that the cute, highly-pixelated art is the only thing keeping it from being completely stomach-churning.
Katamari Damacy could actually be kind of cool. Weird in a way that only Japanese media manages to be, but cool.
posted by ardgedee at 4:39 AM on March 7, 2020
Super Meat Boy, maybe? It's not that there's nothing to hang a story on, it's that the cute, highly-pixelated art is the only thing keeping it from being completely stomach-churning.
Katamari Damacy could actually be kind of cool. Weird in a way that only Japanese media manages to be, but cool.
posted by ardgedee at 4:39 AM on March 7, 2020
I'll be here waiting for Christopher Nolan's Xenogears.
posted by bfranklin at 4:54 AM on March 7, 2020 [9 favorites]
posted by bfranklin at 4:54 AM on March 7, 2020 [9 favorites]
honestly i remember how (foolishly) disgusted i was when the first resident evil movie came out. "HAVE WE NO OTHER WAY TO ENTERTAIN OURSELVES, ARE WE PHILISTINES!" i shrieked. turns out yes we are and those films are awesome and i am sad that the franchise is no longer producing dumb fun movies every few years.
anyway i hope they cast troy baker in a bad wig for tlou
posted by poffin boffin at 5:06 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
anyway i hope they cast troy baker in a bad wig for tlou
posted by poffin boffin at 5:06 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
Resident Evil movies are indeedy great but if you enjoy them you might also check out more of Paul Dubbleyoo Ess Anderson's B-movies if you haven't. I particularly recommend AVP because its hero is a black woman who's a total badass and, spoiler, everyone always treats her like she's just obviously a total badass. Also one of the tricks about PWSA movies is he knows what to give a shit about to end up with a movie that looks just waaay better than a B-movie has to.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 5:48 AM on March 7, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 5:48 AM on March 7, 2020 [5 favorites]
I want them to make a Saint's Row something starring several different people as The Boss and nobody ever mentions the various times The Boss radically changes appearance including sex-as-presented and race. Like sometimes she just says "Gimme a minute" and Milla Jovovich wearing a hot-dog suit walks into a plastic-surgery clinic and a minute later Terry Crews walks out in a poodle skirt and nobody says shit.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 5:54 AM on March 7, 2020 [23 favorites]
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 5:54 AM on March 7, 2020 [23 favorites]
how could you possibly imagine that i do not already own every glorious film in the full avp combined and singular franchises
posted by poffin boffin at 6:03 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by poffin boffin at 6:03 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
If that’s the way it has to be, I’ll take Final Fantasy Tactics (the one they retroactively named War of the Lions) as a prestige TV series, please.
posted by graymouser at 6:33 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by graymouser at 6:33 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
I'm holding out for NetHack: A Netflix Original Series.
posted by fings at 7:16 AM on March 7, 2020 [13 favorites]
posted by fings at 7:16 AM on March 7, 2020 [13 favorites]
If that’s the way it has to be, I’ll take Final Fantasy Tactics (the one they retroactively named War of the Lions) as a prestige TV series, please.
Yessss. They have to keep one line from the original ps1 english translation though:
"Surrender, or die in obscurity" -- Ramza to some brigands
posted by Groundhog Week at 7:18 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
Yessss. They have to keep one line from the original ps1 english translation though:
"Surrender, or die in obscurity" -- Ramza to some brigands
posted by Groundhog Week at 7:18 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
After decades of fan petitions and dreams, it’s clear that video game publishers, Hollywood, and general audiences are finally ready for gaming IP to be adapted to film and TV.
We've been ready for a long while, it's not that we weren't' ready, it's that we want good writing and the IP at hand to be treated with respect. To not just be categorized as "kid stuff" and then market a bunch of toys.
posted by Fizz at 7:50 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
We've been ready for a long while, it's not that we weren't' ready, it's that we want good writing and the IP at hand to be treated with respect. To not just be categorized as "kid stuff" and then market a bunch of toys.
posted by Fizz at 7:50 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
No one over 35 has any idea who [PewDiePie and Ninja] are.
I'm over 35 and I know the first one is a racist and the second one is a misogynist who refuses to work with women, so here's hoping that gaming's "cultural impact" doesn't extend particularly far.
posted by haileris23 at 7:56 AM on March 7, 2020 [37 favorites]
I'm over 35 and I know the first one is a racist and the second one is a misogynist who refuses to work with women, so here's hoping that gaming's "cultural impact" doesn't extend particularly far.
posted by haileris23 at 7:56 AM on March 7, 2020 [37 favorites]
What struck me back in the nineties/early aughts was the contempt filmmakers adapting games often had for their source material. It was like they were handed the licenses, went "this is shit, I'm way better than this" and just changed random things that dragged the films away from their source material (Doom, Mario, Uwe Bill's whole tax-dodging garbage ouvre). Like, I'm going to a Resident Evil movie because I think Resident Evil is cool and a movie about a group of cops stuck in a mansion full of monsters sounds awesome. Instead the RE films appear to have been made by somebody who decided to just make a movie based on the ideas he came up with while looking at concept art for the games.
(This is why I maintain that Mortal Kombat is the best video game movie- the original game plot is basically a martial arts movie, and that's what they made. Success!)
Which is not to say that fidelity to the material makes a movie good- Warcraft is incredibly tedious, for example. Somewhere in the middle there's Silent Hill, which gets so much right but can't resist the urge to tinker unnecessarily with the plot and inappropriately add in elements from other games in the series that don't make sense in Silent Hill 1's story.
posted by Pope Guilty at 7:57 AM on March 7, 2020 [6 favorites]
(This is why I maintain that Mortal Kombat is the best video game movie- the original game plot is basically a martial arts movie, and that's what they made. Success!)
Which is not to say that fidelity to the material makes a movie good- Warcraft is incredibly tedious, for example. Somewhere in the middle there's Silent Hill, which gets so much right but can't resist the urge to tinker unnecessarily with the plot and inappropriately add in elements from other games in the series that don't make sense in Silent Hill 1's story.
posted by Pope Guilty at 7:57 AM on March 7, 2020 [6 favorites]
Mortal Kombat was the first movie I saw where people were literally cheering the whole time- I think everyone expected a shitshow and showed up ready to mock it incessantly, but we all came out genuinely enjoying it.
posted by MysticMCJ at 8:09 AM on March 7, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by MysticMCJ at 8:09 AM on March 7, 2020 [5 favorites]
I thought Ninja was the guy out of Die Antwoord. And I'm gaming pretty regularly at the moment.
posted by biffa at 8:16 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by biffa at 8:16 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
can't wait for the "fight for dominance between all franchises and across all mediums." sounds fucking exhausting
Sounds like a great eight-part film series, though; along with some novels and a tie-in comic book series, and then some Lego video games.
posted by nubs at 8:25 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
Sounds like a great eight-part film series, though; along with some novels and a tie-in comic book series, and then some Lego video games.
posted by nubs at 8:25 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
I suppose the steady passage of years might bring us to this point.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 8:29 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by ricochet biscuit at 8:29 AM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
I'd be concerned that things like The Last Of Us take a lot of their inspiration from television and film in the first place, so you're kind of getting into a vicious circle there.
I'd like to see a Dishonored adaptation, a Thief adaptation, maybe Fallout. Concepts that don't really have direct parallels in film and telly as it stands.
posted by GallonOfAlan at 8:51 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
I'd like to see a Dishonored adaptation, a Thief adaptation, maybe Fallout. Concepts that don't really have direct parallels in film and telly as it stands.
posted by GallonOfAlan at 8:51 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
Could not get into The Last Of Us. Tried three times. These movie games would be better off as just movies, IMO. They come off to me as not-great movies mixed with not-great games. They're technical achievements, but ultimately... so what?*
Not looking forward to yet another zombie show on teevee. Amusingly, I read recently that not a single shot is fired at a demon in the Doom movie until almost 40 minutes in!
*My opinion which is probably not-popular
posted by SoberHighland at 8:56 AM on March 7, 2020 [5 favorites]
Not looking forward to yet another zombie show on teevee. Amusingly, I read recently that not a single shot is fired at a demon in the Doom movie until almost 40 minutes in!
*My opinion which is probably not-popular
posted by SoberHighland at 8:56 AM on March 7, 2020 [5 favorites]
I would take an arrow to the knee for an Elder Scrolls series on Amazon Prime
posted by Ber at 9:10 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by Ber at 9:10 AM on March 7, 2020 [3 favorites]
I'd be concerned that things like The Last Of Us take a lot of their inspiration from television and film in the first place, so you're kind of getting into a vicious circle there.
There's this weird ouroboros effect often going on with these adaptations. Rampage is a monster movie based on a video game based on monster movies. Resident Evil and House of the Dead are zombie movies based on a video game based on zombie movies. Castlevania (which I enjoyed way more than I expected to) is an animated series based on a video game series based on classic vampire movies. Mortal Kombat is a martial-arts fantasy B-movie based on a video game based on martial-arts fantasy B-movies.
At each stage you have to strip out a lot of what makes the source material unique, simply due to the limitations of the medium (movies are not video games, and despite a lot of effort to the contrary, video games are not movies). With the ones that were originally inspired by movies in the first place, you can kind of bypass the video game and just make a genre film, but then why even bother involving the game in the first place, from a creative standpoint?
posted by neckro23 at 9:31 AM on March 7, 2020 [6 favorites]
There's this weird ouroboros effect often going on with these adaptations. Rampage is a monster movie based on a video game based on monster movies. Resident Evil and House of the Dead are zombie movies based on a video game based on zombie movies. Castlevania (which I enjoyed way more than I expected to) is an animated series based on a video game series based on classic vampire movies. Mortal Kombat is a martial-arts fantasy B-movie based on a video game based on martial-arts fantasy B-movies.
At each stage you have to strip out a lot of what makes the source material unique, simply due to the limitations of the medium (movies are not video games, and despite a lot of effort to the contrary, video games are not movies). With the ones that were originally inspired by movies in the first place, you can kind of bypass the video game and just make a genre film, but then why even bother involving the game in the first place, from a creative standpoint?
posted by neckro23 at 9:31 AM on March 7, 2020 [6 favorites]
Marketing hype! Nostalgia!
Ouroboros Effect... I like that. That applies to these dark, gritty re-boots of comic book stuff, too. Comic book heroes and stories are just simplified, cartoon-colored caricatures of older characters and stories.
So, you take the cartoon colors out of it and return it closer to the source material? That's... deep? Deep-er? What's the point?
posted by SoberHighland at 9:48 AM on March 7, 2020 [1 favorite]
Ouroboros Effect... I like that. That applies to these dark, gritty re-boots of comic book stuff, too. Comic book heroes and stories are just simplified, cartoon-colored caricatures of older characters and stories.
So, you take the cartoon colors out of it and return it closer to the source material? That's... deep? Deep-er? What's the point?
posted by SoberHighland at 9:48 AM on March 7, 2020 [1 favorite]
Could not get into The Last Of Us. Tried three times.
I find with games like this you're better off just watching a playthrough/let's play on YouTube by someone whose storytelling style meets with your approval. For example I never played The Last of Us or Detroit: Become Human but I really enjoyed their playthroughs and almost certainly had a better experience than if I had played the games myself, particularly with Detroit, which has a variety of very different potential endings. And games I had played myself, such as Half-Life 2, Bioshock Infinite, and The Walking Dead were much better re-lived as playthroughs where I wasn't forced to tediously grind through the various levels, dying over and over again.
But this reminds me, despite knowing that it would inevitably fail in a different medium, I would give anything to see the psychological horror game Fran Bow made into a streaming miniseries.
posted by xigxag at 10:53 AM on March 7, 2020
I find with games like this you're better off just watching a playthrough/let's play on YouTube by someone whose storytelling style meets with your approval. For example I never played The Last of Us or Detroit: Become Human but I really enjoyed their playthroughs and almost certainly had a better experience than if I had played the games myself, particularly with Detroit, which has a variety of very different potential endings. And games I had played myself, such as Half-Life 2, Bioshock Infinite, and The Walking Dead were much better re-lived as playthroughs where I wasn't forced to tediously grind through the various levels, dying over and over again.
But this reminds me, despite knowing that it would inevitably fail in a different medium, I would give anything to see the psychological horror game Fran Bow made into a streaming miniseries.
posted by xigxag at 10:53 AM on March 7, 2020
There are many people over 35 who got into video games in their youths and stayed in the game (so to speak). I’m 36 and my first system was an NES. Plenty of Atari and Commodore 64 folk out there. (We had Amiga of some sort in the early 90s as well.)
posted by Caduceus at 11:24 AM on March 7, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by Caduceus at 11:24 AM on March 7, 2020 [1 favorite]
Which is to say old enough to know who Ninja and NaziPie are. As much as I’d rather not. Ugh.
posted by Caduceus at 11:25 AM on March 7, 2020
posted by Caduceus at 11:25 AM on March 7, 2020
What Pope Guilty said - most game-->movie adaptions have been terrible, or at a minimum deeply unsatisfying to gamers, because the writers and directors had no respect/deference for the source material/experience, regarding it as either kid stuff, or nerd stuff, each equally (if differently) unworthy of being taken seriously.
Hollywood had this problem with science fiction and fantasy adaptations book and comic adaptions for decades, with a tiny number of exceptions (Superman '78, Superman 2, Batman '89), but that laziness/contempt got blown up by the massive success of X-Men, Fellowship of the Rings, Spider-Man and their immediate sequels, all of which were driven (perhaps to a fault) by source-material reverence. Any backsliding (the F4 movies, DCEU) was severely punished at the box office.
I'm not sure who'll be the Bryan Singer, Sam Raimi or Peter Jackson of videogame IP, but the conditions are right for it.
posted by MattD at 12:28 PM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
Hollywood had this problem with science fiction and fantasy adaptations book and comic adaptions for decades, with a tiny number of exceptions (Superman '78, Superman 2, Batman '89), but that laziness/contempt got blown up by the massive success of X-Men, Fellowship of the Rings, Spider-Man and their immediate sequels, all of which were driven (perhaps to a fault) by source-material reverence. Any backsliding (the F4 movies, DCEU) was severely punished at the box office.
I'm not sure who'll be the Bryan Singer, Sam Raimi or Peter Jackson of videogame IP, but the conditions are right for it.
posted by MattD at 12:28 PM on March 7, 2020 [2 favorites]
i am sad that the franchise is no longer producing dumb fun movies every few years.
perhaps you will be happy about Monster Hunter?
posted by 5_13_23_42_69_666 at 1:37 PM on March 7, 2020
perhaps you will be happy about Monster Hunter?
posted by 5_13_23_42_69_666 at 1:37 PM on March 7, 2020
Half-Life would make a decent movie or series, I think, certainly better than something about a humanoid hedgehog. It has a OK story and semi-relatable characters, which puts it ahead of other game IP.
posted by drivingmenuts at 2:59 PM on March 7, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by drivingmenuts at 2:59 PM on March 7, 2020 [1 favorite]
Comic book heroes and stories are just simplified, cartoon-colored caricatures of older characters and stories.
John Boorman: hits, myths and borrowed tales - "The brilliance of the director's early work reflects western cinema's genius for refashioning primal stories and pulp fiction." (The Green Knight)
Ghost Rider Just Brought Marvel's Darkest Team Back Together - "Hell is on the rise in the comic book Marvel Universe, and Ghost Rider seems like it's on the trail to a massive cosmological war between the various forces of hell and the myriad other underworlds." (Marvel Just Confirmed Mephisto Is the Biblical Devil - and That's a Problem)
Hereditary - "Annie notices that Joan's welcome mat resembles her mother's craft work. She goes through her mother's possessions and finds a photo album linking Joan to Ellen, and a book with information about a demon named Paimon, who wishes to inhabit the body of a male host."
posted by kliuless at 4:16 PM on March 7, 2020
John Boorman: hits, myths and borrowed tales - "The brilliance of the director's early work reflects western cinema's genius for refashioning primal stories and pulp fiction." (The Green Knight)
Ghost Rider Just Brought Marvel's Darkest Team Back Together - "Hell is on the rise in the comic book Marvel Universe, and Ghost Rider seems like it's on the trail to a massive cosmological war between the various forces of hell and the myriad other underworlds." (Marvel Just Confirmed Mephisto Is the Biblical Devil - and That's a Problem)
Hereditary - "Annie notices that Joan's welcome mat resembles her mother's craft work. She goes through her mother's possessions and finds a photo album linking Joan to Ellen, and a book with information about a demon named Paimon, who wishes to inhabit the body of a male host."
posted by kliuless at 4:16 PM on March 7, 2020
I'd like to see a Dishonored adaptation, a Thief adaptation, maybe Fallout. Concepts that don't really have direct parallels in film and telly as it stands.
With a bit of luck, you might get your wish. Back in 2016 Straight Up Films bought the rights to make a Thief movie. Haven't heard anything of the project since, but I live in hope.
posted by talitha_kumi at 5:25 PM on March 7, 2020
With a bit of luck, you might get your wish. Back in 2016 Straight Up Films bought the rights to make a Thief movie. Haven't heard anything of the project since, but I live in hope.
posted by talitha_kumi at 5:25 PM on March 7, 2020
Half-Life would make a decent movie or series,
That makes sense - it tries to be as non-linear as possible within its little frame, and there are a ton of potential sub-plots. How did all those big bad insect things get under our beach? for example. And it's got the same noir vagueness as many of the European "dark" tv series that look like they're doing pretty well on Netflix.
posted by sneebler at 6:34 PM on March 7, 2020
That makes sense - it tries to be as non-linear as possible within its little frame, and there are a ton of potential sub-plots. How did all those big bad insect things get under our beach? for example. And it's got the same noir vagueness as many of the European "dark" tv series that look like they're doing pretty well on Netflix.
posted by sneebler at 6:34 PM on March 7, 2020
It was like they were handed the licenses, went "this is shit, I'm way better than this" and just changed random things that dragged the films away from their source material (Doom, Mario, Uwe Bill's whole tax-dodging garbage ouvre).
The thing about the Doom movie is that it's actually a pretty faithful interpretation of Doom 3, which was out around the same time. It's just that when you remove the interactivity the aesthetic trappings are too hokey to be scary. Get Sam Raimi to direct an adaptation of the modern Doom games, that's what I want to see.
posted by tobascodagama at 6:34 PM on March 7, 2020
The thing about the Doom movie is that it's actually a pretty faithful interpretation of Doom 3, which was out around the same time. It's just that when you remove the interactivity the aesthetic trappings are too hokey to be scary. Get Sam Raimi to direct an adaptation of the modern Doom games, that's what I want to see.
posted by tobascodagama at 6:34 PM on March 7, 2020
It's been awhile but from what I remember the Doom movie doesn't include even like a single demon and the one pinky is a dude who mutated. It had barely anything to do with the games except the Martian setting and the BFG.
posted by Pope Guilty at 7:15 PM on March 7, 2020
posted by Pope Guilty at 7:15 PM on March 7, 2020
Honestly I would be into a Stardew Valley movie.
posted by oceanjesse at 11:18 PM on March 7, 2020
posted by oceanjesse at 11:18 PM on March 7, 2020
starring werner herzog as Void Chicken
posted by poffin boffin at 12:21 AM on March 8, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by poffin boffin at 12:21 AM on March 8, 2020 [2 favorites]
It’s a sweet 90-minute-long pastoral romance but the director’s cut about shipping every item and catching every fish runs 16 hours
posted by BitterOldPunk at 4:17 AM on March 8, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by BitterOldPunk at 4:17 AM on March 8, 2020 [2 favorites]
It had barely anything to do with the games except the Martian setting and the BFG.
It has a Sarge! It has that first-person sequence! C'mon!
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 6:35 AM on March 8, 2020
It has a Sarge! It has that first-person sequence! C'mon!
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 6:35 AM on March 8, 2020
If a movie could be made of the Battleship boardgame, I think a case could be made for any IP with the right set of writers. (And, really, it was most impressive how they managed to work elements of the game, specifically the grid system and the peg-like missiles, into the film.)
posted by SPrintF at 7:27 AM on March 8, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by SPrintF at 7:27 AM on March 8, 2020 [3 favorites]
Every Doom movie is bad. And yes, there was more than one. I saw the first one in theaters, kept thinking it was ending and being disappointed, and I like to say that's 5 hours of my life I won't get back, because I've probably complained about how bad it was for a couple of hours at this point.
I am looking forward to someone adapting a webcomic into a movie. Though maybe that's been done and I missed it?
posted by gryftir at 5:19 AM on March 9, 2020
I am looking forward to someone adapting a webcomic into a movie. Though maybe that's been done and I missed it?
posted by gryftir at 5:19 AM on March 9, 2020
The commercial crap that's marketed to 12 year olds now is what becomes movies and high concept IP like HBO specials when they turn 30-40.
Superhero comic books and cartoons were were big in the youth of Favreau and Wheadon. We've got superhero movies now.
I think we're at the end of the superhero cycle though and moving into something new. I would not be surprised to see more vidya movies/series in the next few years.
posted by bonehead at 6:54 AM on March 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Superhero comic books and cartoons were were big in the youth of Favreau and Wheadon. We've got superhero movies now.
I think we're at the end of the superhero cycle though and moving into something new. I would not be surprised to see more vidya movies/series in the next few years.
posted by bonehead at 6:54 AM on March 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Every Doom movie is bad.
the excellence of the 2005 doom movie is not in the movie itself but in the rock's open regret at starring in it and the doom franchise calling him out about that on twitter
posted by poffin boffin at 12:50 PM on March 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
the excellence of the 2005 doom movie is not in the movie itself but in the rock's open regret at starring in it and the doom franchise calling him out about that on twitter
posted by poffin boffin at 12:50 PM on March 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
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