What you watch
July 30, 2002 1:04 PM Subscribe
What you watch can now get you arrested. 115, yes 115 people were jailed for attending a club where there was a live sex show on stage. Of course, the cops watched the show for three hours before busting them all.
I wonder how many murders were committed that same night in Atlanta..
and now, the war on voyeurism.....
posted by zoopraxiscope at 1:17 PM on July 30, 2002
posted by zoopraxiscope at 1:17 PM on July 30, 2002
"There were so many people coming into the club we were afraid we couldn't safely deal with all the people," Whitmire said. "If we had waited longer, we could have arrested 300 people."
Premature incarceration?
posted by xiffix at 1:20 PM on July 30, 2002
Premature incarceration?
posted by xiffix at 1:20 PM on July 30, 2002
They don't really have anything better then chasing porn lovers ? I suggest, in no particular order:
1) prosecuting people who make childs work fulltime and loan sharks
2) arresting pushers, drug smugglers, murderers, rapers, serial killers, wife/husband/kids beaters/ domestic violence
3) look around for terrorism activities
I don't think porn is a top priority issue.
posted by elpapacito at 1:25 PM on July 30, 2002
1) prosecuting people who make childs work fulltime and loan sharks
2) arresting pushers, drug smugglers, murderers, rapers, serial killers, wife/husband/kids beaters/ domestic violence
3) look around for terrorism activities
I don't think porn is a top priority issue.
posted by elpapacito at 1:25 PM on July 30, 2002
Then they busted the Club Zinc at 582 Piedmont Avenue and put 115 people in jail Saturday night for paying $25 each to see one woman have sex with maybe 10 men.
Maybe 10 men?
eas98, there was a 16 year old girl performing sex acts on stage...it's not like they were all watching the skinemax.
posted by Doug at 1:26 PM on July 30, 2002
Maybe 10 men?
eas98, there was a 16 year old girl performing sex acts on stage...it's not like they were all watching the skinemax.
posted by Doug at 1:26 PM on July 30, 2002
Amanda Jones, 29, of Cumming, who police said performed sex on stage, was charged with public indecency. - emphasis mine
tee hee.
posted by BlueTrain at 1:28 PM on July 30, 2002
tee hee.
posted by BlueTrain at 1:28 PM on July 30, 2002
eas98, I thought this would have been posted a while back.,
But what's new pussy cat
Georgia a state where you can marry your first cousin legally.
Can't have oral sex with your spouse, and then this.
Que up the Adam Ant song, Goodie Two Shoe What is the world coming too.......
I sure hope when I do get married, it's still legal to have kids in the south.
posted by thomcatspike at 1:29 PM on July 30, 2002
But what's new pussy cat
Georgia a state where you can marry your first cousin legally.
Can't have oral sex with your spouse, and then this.
Que up the Adam Ant song, Goodie Two Shoe What is the world coming too.......
I sure hope when I do get married, it's still legal to have kids in the south.
posted by thomcatspike at 1:29 PM on July 30, 2002
Premature incarceration?
Hahaha...
I heard on the radio that a girl involved in one of the sex acts was 16, but she was using a fake id, or something like that. Didn't see that mentioned in the article.
The article and other reports are also unclear as to whether the cops took 3 hours to watch it and then 3 hours to book them, or watched it for say 20 minutes and then book the perps.
posted by insomnyuk at 1:31 PM on July 30, 2002
Hahaha...
I heard on the radio that a girl involved in one of the sex acts was 16, but she was using a fake id, or something like that. Didn't see that mentioned in the article.
The article and other reports are also unclear as to whether the cops took 3 hours to watch it and then 3 hours to book them, or watched it for say 20 minutes and then book the perps.
posted by insomnyuk at 1:31 PM on July 30, 2002
I don't regret the fact that I didn't attend this party so much as the fact that I wasn't even invited.
posted by rks404 at 1:34 PM on July 30, 2002
posted by rks404 at 1:34 PM on July 30, 2002
I have the feeling that the owners/managers of an unlicensed night club that is serving liquor without a license to patrons watching a sex show in an overcrowded former warehouse, aren't going to check anyones ID.
Do you think that the sixteen year old girl might have been a bit intoxicated on that illegal liquor and that might have affected her reasoning to perform sexually in front of hundreds of patrons? Just a thought.
posted by flatlander at 1:45 PM on July 30, 2002
Do you think that the sixteen year old girl might have been a bit intoxicated on that illegal liquor and that might have affected her reasoning to perform sexually in front of hundreds of patrons? Just a thought.
posted by flatlander at 1:45 PM on July 30, 2002
Do you think that the sixteen year old girl might have been a bit intoxicated on that illegal liquor and that might have affected her reasoning to perform sexually in front of hundreds of patrons? Just a thought.
Wasn't this party advertised on the net? So beforehand, everone knew what they were going to get.
JOKE COUNT: so far there has been 1 (one) interesting joke and 1 (one) obvious point-out that can only be considered a joke if you laugh less than once a day.
posted by ( .)(. ) at 1:53 PM on July 30, 2002
Wasn't this party advertised on the net? So beforehand, everone knew what they were going to get.
JOKE COUNT: so far there has been 1 (one) interesting joke and 1 (one) obvious point-out that can only be considered a joke if you laugh less than once a day.
posted by ( .)(. ) at 1:53 PM on July 30, 2002
Police Chief: So what were you doing in a sex show for three hours?
Detectives: Ummmm, gathering.... Evidence! I enter Amanda Jone's phone number into evidence. **gulp**
posted by dr_dank at 1:56 PM on July 30, 2002
Detectives: Ummmm, gathering.... Evidence! I enter Amanda Jone's phone number into evidence. **gulp**
posted by dr_dank at 1:56 PM on July 30, 2002
1942: "I'm shocked! Shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"
2002: "Well, I declare."
posted by yhbc at 1:56 PM on July 30, 2002
2002: "Well, I declare."
posted by yhbc at 1:56 PM on July 30, 2002
Quick question:
If this Amanda Jones was charged with "public indecency", what about the "about 10 guys" that were on the stage with her?
There is no mention of their names, but they go out of their way to mention her full name, age and current city/town of residence. That strikes me as a bit unfair.
posted by grum@work at 1:57 PM on July 30, 2002
If this Amanda Jones was charged with "public indecency", what about the "about 10 guys" that were on the stage with her?
There is no mention of their names, but they go out of their way to mention her full name, age and current city/town of residence. That strikes me as a bit unfair.
posted by grum@work at 1:57 PM on July 30, 2002
eas98, there was a 16 year old girl performing sex acts on stage...it's not like they were all watching the skinemax.
Well, if anyone was going to be arrested then, it would be the club operators/organizers. For all the audience knew, that girl could have been 18. I doubt that you would expect each of them to ask for ID now, would you?
posted by eas98 at 2:02 PM on July 30, 2002
Well, if anyone was going to be arrested then, it would be the club operators/organizers. For all the audience knew, that girl could have been 18. I doubt that you would expect each of them to ask for ID now, would you?
posted by eas98 at 2:02 PM on July 30, 2002
I had been meaning to get to Zinc. Really.
Now it looks like I missed my chance, and probably the best night to have been there.
posted by zpousman at 3:32 PM on July 30, 2002
Now it looks like I missed my chance, and probably the best night to have been there.
posted by zpousman at 3:32 PM on July 30, 2002
Georgia a state where you can marry your first cousin legally. Can't have oral sex with your spouse, and then this.
Thomcastpike:
WHY DOES SOMEONE LIKE YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SOME POINT OR JOKE THAT (insert topic here) HAPPENED IN THE SOUTH?
Your own stupid links point out all those "redneck" stereotype activities (as you see them) happen everywhere in the US. According to one of your links, you can also legally marry your first cousin in places like California and Hawaii. Only 4 states of the 23 listed there are in the so-called "South".
And the antiquated sodomy laws you linked to are on the books in many states, especially via local municipalities and have nothing to do with reality.
California was the first state to make it illegal for gay couples to marry - a very "Southern" stereotype, wouldn't you say?
I sure hope when I do get married, it's still legal to have kids in the south.
Don't you live in Texas? (Not part of "the South".)
posted by jca at 3:38 PM on July 30, 2002
Thomcastpike:
WHY DOES SOMEONE LIKE YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SOME POINT OR JOKE THAT (insert topic here) HAPPENED IN THE SOUTH?
Your own stupid links point out all those "redneck" stereotype activities (as you see them) happen everywhere in the US. According to one of your links, you can also legally marry your first cousin in places like California and Hawaii. Only 4 states of the 23 listed there are in the so-called "South".
And the antiquated sodomy laws you linked to are on the books in many states, especially via local municipalities and have nothing to do with reality.
California was the first state to make it illegal for gay couples to marry - a very "Southern" stereotype, wouldn't you say?
I sure hope when I do get married, it's still legal to have kids in the south.
Don't you live in Texas? (Not part of "the South".)
posted by jca at 3:38 PM on July 30, 2002
... err it seems to me that if she was 16, the police would be prohibited from mentioning her name as she's not a legal adult. The newspaper would be ethically bound from disclosing her name as well, but they still might breech their ethics in the name of a good scandal (ombudsman be damned).
posted by nathan_teske at 3:39 PM on July 30, 2002
posted by nathan_teske at 3:39 PM on July 30, 2002
It seems that people are amazed when they read that a 16 years old girl was having sex with 10 men on a stage.
Is age a problem ? I don't think so, the problem is : was she willing or not ? Did somebody force her by threat or
phsycal violence ? That is the problem. Did she know that you can get sexually transmitted diseases or become pregnant ? Guess it's hi-time for mandatory sexual education in schools, I think it's better for girls and boys to know about the goods and the bads of sex BEFORE they have sex.
Telling them "you can't have sex till you're 18 because it's evil" is simply idiotic: sex is natural, you can't stop it, but you can learn about it.
posted by elpapacito at 4:00 PM on July 30, 2002
Is age a problem ? I don't think so, the problem is : was she willing or not ? Did somebody force her by threat or
phsycal violence ? That is the problem. Did she know that you can get sexually transmitted diseases or become pregnant ? Guess it's hi-time for mandatory sexual education in schools, I think it's better for girls and boys to know about the goods and the bads of sex BEFORE they have sex.
Telling them "you can't have sex till you're 18 because it's evil" is simply idiotic: sex is natural, you can't stop it, but you can learn about it.
posted by elpapacito at 4:00 PM on July 30, 2002
A little defensive there, aren't we, jca. I'm reminded of the closing line of Absalom, Absalom!. Asked by his Harvard roommate why he hates the South, Quentin Compson replies thusly:
"'I don't hate it,' Quentin said, quickly, at once, immediately; 'I don't hate it,' he said I don't hate it he thought, panting in the cold air, the iron New England dark: I don't. I don't! I don't hate it! I don't hate it!"
posted by mr_roboto at 4:03 PM on July 30, 2002
"'I don't hate it,' Quentin said, quickly, at once, immediately; 'I don't hate it,' he said I don't hate it he thought, panting in the cold air, the iron New England dark: I don't. I don't! I don't hate it! I don't hate it!"
posted by mr_roboto at 4:03 PM on July 30, 2002
Don't you live in Texas? (Not part of "the South".)
posted by jca
Actually, most of us that were born/raised here consider Texas to be part of the South. Now, I'll grant you, we're west of the Mississippi...but we're still south of any area that could be termed North. :)
Also, Texas did fight for the Confederacy.
Besides, anyone who can make biscuits and gravy like I can, must be from the deep south. :)
posted by dejah420 at 4:26 PM on July 30, 2002
posted by jca
Actually, most of us that were born/raised here consider Texas to be part of the South. Now, I'll grant you, we're west of the Mississippi...but we're still south of any area that could be termed North. :)
Also, Texas did fight for the Confederacy.
Besides, anyone who can make biscuits and gravy like I can, must be from the deep south. :)
posted by dejah420 at 4:26 PM on July 30, 2002
They say the Deep South doesn't include Texas. Something about swamps and kudzu, I hear.
Actually, Florida is a bit of an anomaly. The beach and sun culture seems to draw a lot of "semi-natives" (I think they call you that after 10 years or so of residence) who enjoy the alternative lifestyles, but it's also full of good old Bible Belt bluenoses who think they should be prosecuted like crazy. More swing clubs per capita, probably, than anyplace but California; and more prosecutions, too.
Um ... but this was Georgia. Which has the same problem, at least in Atlanta, which has become quite cosmopolitan since they got air-conditioning. I've heard constructions on the order of "There's Atlanta, and then there's Georgia."
posted by dhartung at 4:35 PM on July 30, 2002
Actually, Florida is a bit of an anomaly. The beach and sun culture seems to draw a lot of "semi-natives" (I think they call you that after 10 years or so of residence) who enjoy the alternative lifestyles, but it's also full of good old Bible Belt bluenoses who think they should be prosecuted like crazy. More swing clubs per capita, probably, than anyplace but California; and more prosecutions, too.
Um ... but this was Georgia. Which has the same problem, at least in Atlanta, which has become quite cosmopolitan since they got air-conditioning. I've heard constructions on the order of "There's Atlanta, and then there's Georgia."
posted by dhartung at 4:35 PM on July 30, 2002
eas98: That's a very good point. It is disturbing that people were arrested simply for watching sex acts.
posted by Doug at 5:16 PM on July 30, 2002
posted by Doug at 5:16 PM on July 30, 2002
eas98, I thought this would have been posted a while back.,
But what's new pussy cat
Georgia a state where you can marry your first cousin legally.
Can't have oral sex with your spouse, and then this.
Que up the Adam Ant song, Goodie Two Shoe What is the world coming too.......
I sure hope when I do get married, it's still legal to have kids in the south.
posted by thomcatspike at 1:29 PM PST on July 30 ....
Looks to me like some GMO-hybrid 'enigmatic satire' there, thomcat !
Doesn't look like your painting the Whole Darn South as *cough*kill-joys*cough*...... just the remote parts...
posted by dash_slot- at 5:27 PM on July 30, 2002
But what's new pussy cat
Georgia a state where you can marry your first cousin legally.
Can't have oral sex with your spouse, and then this.
Que up the Adam Ant song, Goodie Two Shoe What is the world coming too.......
I sure hope when I do get married, it's still legal to have kids in the south.
posted by thomcatspike at 1:29 PM PST on July 30 ....
Looks to me like some GMO-hybrid 'enigmatic satire' there, thomcat !
Doesn't look like your painting the Whole Darn South as *cough*kill-joys*cough*...... just the remote parts...
posted by dash_slot- at 5:27 PM on July 30, 2002
mr_roboto: Yes, I am very defensive on this topic, as I have grown oh-so-weary with the Southern stereotypes. I've encountered it my entire life. (I'm from Huntsville, Alabama, but now live in Los Angeles. Huntsville doesn't really fit many of the stereotypes.)
dejah420: For the purposes of this discussion, I'm talking about stereotypes with regards to "the South" (which generally come up on any thread/posting that contain any of the magic words: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, or Mississippi.) Texas has stereotypes of it's own involving "western", not "southern".
dhartung: Air conditioning = cosmopolitan?
posted by jca at 5:46 PM on July 30, 2002
dejah420: For the purposes of this discussion, I'm talking about stereotypes with regards to "the South" (which generally come up on any thread/posting that contain any of the magic words: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, or Mississippi.) Texas has stereotypes of it's own involving "western", not "southern".
dhartung: Air conditioning = cosmopolitan?
posted by jca at 5:46 PM on July 30, 2002
I love how this thread has turned into a "south-not south" discussion. Thread drift just doesn't get better than this.
For my part, when I went to SMU I understood that Dallas was the western-most "eastern" city in the country, while Fort Worth was the eastern-most "western" city. Texas is a state all right - of mind.
posted by yhbc at 5:57 PM on July 30, 2002
For my part, when I went to SMU I understood that Dallas was the western-most "eastern" city in the country, while Fort Worth was the eastern-most "western" city. Texas is a state all right - of mind.
posted by yhbc at 5:57 PM on July 30, 2002
I was surprise the article I posted was not an earlier post in a meta thread. I heard about it and even thought of posting it for discussion, yet I saw it all weekend long on CNN in heavy discussion as that is where CNN is based. Yet to me it was old at that point. And we are talking about current events (6/2902) and laws not opinions, only if you agree or not. So the finger you point remember it is the one I gave you to point back, as your finger is my reference points that I gave to you. It was nice I didn't just use a link on Georgia only, but the world.
California was the first state to make it illegal for gay couples to marry
And jca, yes I'll agree with, yet I lived there and I found no one who agreed, in person funny, no one I knew.
Do you folks agree with these laws, I don't as who the hell is right when they are peaking in my bedroom window? Please tell, to those that seem to respect these fundamental laws.
Yes the cousin joke was no joke, your right.....
Yet in some circles it's is looked down on, and I think these laws are weird if you follow the thinking of them. I can go deeper yet I won't as no one chooses their birth.
And I live in Texas don't get me started, I can go both ways. And Dallas take your map of the United States, fold it in half and you will find it near the crease, interesting if you say south, north or even east and west, I was not trolling for bait, yet the club in the article did. So again sorry to those in the south and north, as I'm and American Citizen of The United States.
I should have gone with the original, after preview the comments and all the puns you wonder if the article was written for the puns in it or the facts.
posted by thomcatspike at 7:00 PM on July 30, 2002
California was the first state to make it illegal for gay couples to marry
And jca, yes I'll agree with, yet I lived there and I found no one who agreed, in person funny, no one I knew.
Do you folks agree with these laws, I don't as who the hell is right when they are peaking in my bedroom window? Please tell, to those that seem to respect these fundamental laws.
Yes the cousin joke was no joke, your right.....
Yet in some circles it's is looked down on, and I think these laws are weird if you follow the thinking of them. I can go deeper yet I won't as no one chooses their birth.
And I live in Texas don't get me started, I can go both ways. And Dallas take your map of the United States, fold it in half and you will find it near the crease, interesting if you say south, north or even east and west, I was not trolling for bait, yet the club in the article did. So again sorry to those in the south and north, as I'm and American Citizen of The United States.
I should have gone with the original, after preview the comments and all the puns you wonder if the article was written for the puns in it or the facts.
posted by thomcatspike at 7:00 PM on July 30, 2002
I sure hope when I do get married, it's still legal to have kids in the south.
jca,
The institution of having babies, sex. I made a reference about my grandmother once with her prude thinking.
And as the times become more violent with what I read in the news and the crimes. I'm beginning to think I will be doomed to be clothed for sex.......maybe she had a crystal ball.
posted by thomcatspike at 7:26 PM on July 30, 2002
jca,
The institution of having babies, sex. I made a reference about my grandmother once with her prude thinking.
And as the times become more violent with what I read in the news and the crimes. I'm beginning to think I will be doomed to be clothed for sex.......maybe she had a crystal ball.
posted by thomcatspike at 7:26 PM on July 30, 2002
Houston/Dallas = the South
San Antonio/El Paso = the West
posted by rushmc at 7:28 PM on July 30, 2002
San Antonio/El Paso = the West
posted by rushmc at 7:28 PM on July 30, 2002
Only on MeFi can a thread about naked women, public sex acts, and possible civil rights violations get hijacked into a discussion of regional one-upsmanship. God I love this place. :-)
posted by Ynoxas at 8:00 PM on July 30, 2002
posted by Ynoxas at 8:00 PM on July 30, 2002
East Texas also has kudzu. It was also, however, recently found in Oregon - the first instance of it being found west of Texas, actually. I'm not sure what to make of that. Live sex shows with minors in Atlanta and kudzu in Oregon - two things I'd like to put out of my mind.
posted by raysmj at 9:49 PM on July 30, 2002
posted by raysmj at 9:49 PM on July 30, 2002
God Damn you mr_roboto, I am currently only up to p194.
"It seems that people are amazed when they read that a 16 years old girl was having sex with 10 men on a stage."
Umm, elpapacito, the 16yr old 'performed a sex act' on stage, according to the article. I got the impression it was 29yr old Amanda who was the main attraction.
posted by Catch at 11:11 PM on July 30, 2002
"It seems that people are amazed when they read that a 16 years old girl was having sex with 10 men on a stage."
Umm, elpapacito, the 16yr old 'performed a sex act' on stage, according to the article. I got the impression it was 29yr old Amanda who was the main attraction.
posted by Catch at 11:11 PM on July 30, 2002
I don't think that this can be really blamed as a Southern thing. After all, various northern politicians have attempted to make their name by attacking public displays of sexuality. For example we have the cleanup of Times Square, Cincinnati's war against Robert Mapplethorpe and Larry Flint, and Indianapolis has spawned both one of the more restrictive anti-pornography acts but also Dan Quayle. I can't imagine the story being much different if it had occurred anywhere else in the United States.
In fact, one of the more frustrating things about North-South politics in the United States is that people in the North frequently use the South in order to cop a claim that they are more progressive than they actually are. I have not found northern states to be all that more open-minded, they just pretend they are.
posted by KirkJobSluder at 9:58 AM on July 31, 2002
In fact, one of the more frustrating things about North-South politics in the United States is that people in the North frequently use the South in order to cop a claim that they are more progressive than they actually are. I have not found northern states to be all that more open-minded, they just pretend they are.
posted by KirkJobSluder at 9:58 AM on July 31, 2002
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sorry. easy joke...
posted by almostcool at 1:10 PM on July 30, 2002