Peter Green (1946 - 2020)
July 25, 2020 11:15 AM Subscribe
Peter Green, the founder of Fleetwood Mac has died. Back in the day, there was graffiti in London claiming that "Clapton is God". They were wrong.
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If you've got some time on your hands you may want to listen.
posted by evilDoug at 11:26 AM on July 25, 2020 [4 favorites]
If you've got some time on your hands you may want to listen.
posted by evilDoug at 11:26 AM on July 25, 2020 [4 favorites]
His time with Fleetwood Mac was when it was more of a (very good) blues band.
He wrote Black Magic Woman which Santana later made into a huge hit.
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posted by eye of newt at 11:32 AM on July 25, 2020 [1 favorite]
He wrote Black Magic Woman which Santana later made into a huge hit.
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posted by eye of newt at 11:32 AM on July 25, 2020 [1 favorite]
Great guitar player, beautiful melancholic singer.
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posted by ericthegardener at 11:59 AM on July 25, 2020 [1 favorite]
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posted by ericthegardener at 11:59 AM on July 25, 2020 [1 favorite]
John Mayall's Bluesbreakers was one of the best talent development bands of the 60s. Before Fleetwood Mac, Green replaced Clapton in the Bluesbreakers for a time and left behind The Super-Natural.
posted by epo at 12:56 PM on July 25, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by epo at 12:56 PM on July 25, 2020 [2 favorites]
a key chapter: Peter Green - The Munich LSD Party Incident
posted by philip-random at 1:08 PM on July 25, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by philip-random at 1:08 PM on July 25, 2020 [1 favorite]
I know it doesn't represent the best time for Peter Green from Peter Green's perspective but The Green Manalishi (with the Two Prong Crown) is really an incredible song.
posted by atoxyl at 1:11 PM on July 25, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by atoxyl at 1:11 PM on July 25, 2020 [5 favorites]
Oh Well
one of their best songs from any iteration
posted by kokaku at 1:15 PM on July 25, 2020 [4 favorites]
one of their best songs from any iteration
posted by kokaku at 1:15 PM on July 25, 2020 [4 favorites]
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Can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I aint pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to
Oh well
posted by SteveInMaine at 1:21 PM on July 25, 2020 [3 favorites]
Can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I aint pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to
Oh well
posted by SteveInMaine at 1:21 PM on July 25, 2020 [3 favorites]
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posted by Joey Michaels at 1:35 PM on July 25, 2020
posted by Joey Michaels at 1:35 PM on July 25, 2020
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posted by parmanparman at 2:15 PM on July 25, 2020
posted by parmanparman at 2:15 PM on July 25, 2020
Albatross was the first single I ever bought (at the age of 10) and it still does it for me. It had 'Need Your Love So Bad' on the flip; this live version of that song (from 'Shrine 69) is a doozy of the highest order. Thanks Peter.
posted by peterkins at 2:18 PM on July 25, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by peterkins at 2:18 PM on July 25, 2020 [1 favorite]
but The Green Manalishi (with the Two Prong Crown) yt is really an incredible song.
is it the last thing he ever did with Fleetwood Mac? Definitely the last single. The Peter Green Fleetwood Mac were primarily a blues based operation up until 1969, I guess, at which point things got very interesting. The album of 1969 was Then Play On which, based on the various versions that were released, speaks to a confusion about what was going on. I'm left wishing they'd gone with a double album which would have incorporated all the options ... and then maybe via a bit of time travel, slot Green Manalishi in at the end, because if that's not a swan song, I don't know what is.
The Rhino Records Deluxe Edition from 2013 comes close, but where's Albatross? Released at the very end of 1968 and never included on any non-compilation release, it's always struck me as the ideal selection for side one, track one of the kind of album that wants you to change your mind about an artist ... in a good way.
posted by philip-random at 2:27 PM on July 25, 2020 [2 favorites]
is it the last thing he ever did with Fleetwood Mac? Definitely the last single. The Peter Green Fleetwood Mac were primarily a blues based operation up until 1969, I guess, at which point things got very interesting. The album of 1969 was Then Play On which, based on the various versions that were released, speaks to a confusion about what was going on. I'm left wishing they'd gone with a double album which would have incorporated all the options ... and then maybe via a bit of time travel, slot Green Manalishi in at the end, because if that's not a swan song, I don't know what is.
The Rhino Records Deluxe Edition from 2013 comes close, but where's Albatross? Released at the very end of 1968 and never included on any non-compilation release, it's always struck me as the ideal selection for side one, track one of the kind of album that wants you to change your mind about an artist ... in a good way.
posted by philip-random at 2:27 PM on July 25, 2020 [2 favorites]
I've always loved Albatross. Rest In Peace.
posted by pasici at 2:31 PM on July 25, 2020 [4 favorites]
posted by pasici at 2:31 PM on July 25, 2020 [4 favorites]
Back during the indie rock/grunge/alternative era I always used to use the incident where he threatened to shoot his accountant FOR paying him royalty checks as a "so, you're saying that band X is 'not all about money', well, let me tell you about Peter Green from Fleetwood Mac, now there's a commitment to not being all about the money..."
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posted by Larry David Syndrome at 4:07 PM on July 25, 2020 [4 favorites]
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posted by Larry David Syndrome at 4:07 PM on July 25, 2020 [4 favorites]
the incident where he threatened to shoot his accountant FOR paying him royalty checks
money being the Green Manalishi -- the monster that was out to get him. Or so I've heard it interpreted.
posted by philip-random at 6:44 PM on July 25, 2020 [2 favorites]
money being the Green Manalishi -- the monster that was out to get him. Or so I've heard it interpreted.
posted by philip-random at 6:44 PM on July 25, 2020 [2 favorites]
I've recently begun listening to the early Fleetwood Mac recordings; the level of sheer musicianship is just staggering. They also sound less 'English' than other English Blues bands I'm aware of. This is neither good nor bad, in itself, but perhaps marks them as more careful listeners to their (American) source material without being mere imitators, and leaves their music more universal for it.
Rest in peace.
posted by bertran at 7:10 PM on July 25, 2020 [2 favorites]
Rest in peace.
posted by bertran at 7:10 PM on July 25, 2020 [2 favorites]
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posted by Mister Bijou at 9:07 PM on July 25, 2020
posted by Mister Bijou at 9:07 PM on July 25, 2020
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posted by quazichimp at 10:51 PM on July 25, 2020
posted by quazichimp at 10:51 PM on July 25, 2020
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posted by SystematicAbuse at 11:29 PM on July 25, 2020
posted by SystematicAbuse at 11:29 PM on July 25, 2020
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posted by inexorably_forward at 12:05 AM on July 26, 2020
posted by inexorably_forward at 12:05 AM on July 26, 2020
By sheer chance, Then Play On came into my possession when I was quite a young man. It has stayed with me (in every way) for the last 35 years
posted by Myeral at 1:19 AM on July 26, 2020
posted by Myeral at 1:19 AM on July 26, 2020
money being the Green Manalishi -- the monster that was out to get him. Or so I've heard it interpreted.
I don't know the accountant story but that was his own interpretation of the song, that he had a vision of a demon in the shape of a dog, which he understood to represent money.
posted by atoxyl at 6:04 AM on July 26, 2020
I don't know the accountant story but that was his own interpretation of the song, that he had a vision of a demon in the shape of a dog, which he understood to represent money.
posted by atoxyl at 6:04 AM on July 26, 2020
And I know he tried to get the rest of the band to give away all of their money, which they were not up for.
posted by atoxyl at 6:06 AM on July 26, 2020
posted by atoxyl at 6:06 AM on July 26, 2020
I knew about Fleetwood Mac's early '70s sort-of-proggy phase, but when a friend played me one of their Peter Green-era albums I had no idea it was the same band and would never have guessed.
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posted by The Card Cheat at 9:07 AM on July 26, 2020
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posted by The Card Cheat at 9:07 AM on July 26, 2020
The End of the Game is one of the best late night psychedelic guitar albums of all time. RIP .
posted by Liquidwolf at 9:27 AM on July 26, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by Liquidwolf at 9:27 AM on July 26, 2020 [1 favorite]
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posted by hap_hazard at 6:55 PM on July 26, 2020
posted by hap_hazard at 6:55 PM on July 26, 2020
The riff from "Oh Well" is immortal.
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posted by RobotVoodooPower at 7:56 PM on July 26, 2020 [1 favorite]
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posted by RobotVoodooPower at 7:56 PM on July 26, 2020 [1 favorite]
Albatross - the best use of plate reverb in recording history.
I treasure the time I saw Green's Mac, at Chicago's Electric Theater, they didn't even play on the stage, but on the floor where we all stood, maybe 8-10 feet away.
posted by Chitownfats at 8:46 PM on July 26, 2020 [3 favorites]
I treasure the time I saw Green's Mac, at Chicago's Electric Theater, they didn't even play on the stage, but on the floor where we all stood, maybe 8-10 feet away.
posted by Chitownfats at 8:46 PM on July 26, 2020 [3 favorites]
Nthing the love for the Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac LP and "Albatross", the latter of which inspired one of a handful of Beatles songs that makes plain its direct influences.
Green was a phenomenal player.
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posted by joseph_elmhurst at 10:59 PM on July 26, 2020 [1 favorite]
Green was a phenomenal player.
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posted by joseph_elmhurst at 10:59 PM on July 26, 2020 [1 favorite]
it also samples very nicely into the KLF's Chill Out
posted by philip-random at 3:31 PM on July 27, 2020
posted by philip-random at 3:31 PM on July 27, 2020
Oh Well changed my world. It's the first tune I remember really sitting up and noticing, the first piece of music that connected with me. Years later, whenever I pick up a new guitar, the opening riff from Oh Well is the first thing I'll play. Because I know that if that sounds good on that guitar, I'm okay with anything I have to play on it.
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posted by gmb at 2:03 PM on July 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
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posted by gmb at 2:03 PM on July 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
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posted by Mutant Lobsters from Riverhead at 2:14 PM on July 31, 2020
posted by Mutant Lobsters from Riverhead at 2:14 PM on July 31, 2020
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