Herman Cain dead at 74 due to Covid 19
July 30, 2020 2:35 PM Subscribe
Former presidential candidate and businessman Herman Cain has died today of Coronavirus at 74 Controversial public figure, and COVID denier, Herman Cain has passed from this plane of existence, reportedly to his reward. I just can't anymore. Add links as you feel necessary. My condolences go out to his family.
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posted by a box and a stick and a string and a bear at 2:44 PM on July 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by a box and a stick and a string and a bear at 2:44 PM on July 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
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posted by tzikeh at 2:48 PM on July 30, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by tzikeh at 2:48 PM on July 30, 2020 [1 favorite]
For anyone else who doesn't want to give Fox News clicks or data, here is NPR's article.
As evidenced by Cain's denialism, all conservatives are bastards, even the ones who are relatively less evil than the outright fascists in the White House at the moment. Personally, I would rather they all face accountability and justice for their actions than evade it through death.
It is depressing to think that this loss, let alone the over 150,000 other Americans who have already died in the past few months, changes nothing for the capitalist death cultists obsessed with getting people back to work in order to make Number go up.
posted by Ouverture at 2:50 PM on July 30, 2020 [11 favorites]
As evidenced by Cain's denialism, all conservatives are bastards, even the ones who are relatively less evil than the outright fascists in the White House at the moment. Personally, I would rather they all face accountability and justice for their actions than evade it through death.
It is depressing to think that this loss, let alone the over 150,000 other Americans who have already died in the past few months, changes nothing for the capitalist death cultists obsessed with getting people back to work in order to make Number go up.
posted by Ouverture at 2:50 PM on July 30, 2020 [11 favorites]
All aboard the Schadenfreude Express!
posted by Reverend John at 2:50 PM on July 30, 2020 [8 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 2:50 PM on July 30, 2020 [8 favorites]
Yeah, I was unexpectedly sad about this. I agreed with exactly none of what the man said politically, but I guess he was kind of the kooky uncle that we miss once they are not around.
posted by Maxwell's demon at 2:53 PM on July 30, 2020
posted by Maxwell's demon at 2:53 PM on July 30, 2020
“Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump. PEOPLE ARE FED UP.”
-Herman Cain, before Trump’s June rally in Tulsa.
The one where he took a selfie with a bunch of unmaksed attendees.
May the rest of us profit from the example of his poor decisions. And let him be remembered as a guy who said it was all a hoax and you should not wear as mask to go visit your parents.
Let that be his legacy.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 2:55 PM on July 30, 2020 [6 favorites]
-Herman Cain, before Trump’s June rally in Tulsa.
The one where he took a selfie with a bunch of unmaksed attendees.
May the rest of us profit from the example of his poor decisions. And let him be remembered as a guy who said it was all a hoax and you should not wear as mask to go visit your parents.
Let that be his legacy.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 2:55 PM on July 30, 2020 [6 favorites]
Currently one American is dying every minute from COVID-19 and Mr. Cain was one of them. This period is for all of them...
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posted by jim in austin at 2:55 PM on July 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
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posted by jim in austin at 2:55 PM on July 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
FTA: I’m bracing for the cruelty online about how he deserved to get COVID and die because of his politics.
It isn't cruel to state the fact that he probably died due to his actions, which were due to his political beliefs. Doubt that nuance will be acknowledged by his supporters, though. What we can hope is that this causes more people to understand the facts about Covid and how to protect themselves.
posted by soelo at 2:57 PM on July 30, 2020 [3 favorites]
It isn't cruel to state the fact that he probably died due to his actions, which were due to his political beliefs. Doubt that nuance will be acknowledged by his supporters, though. What we can hope is that this causes more people to understand the facts about Covid and how to protect themselves.
posted by soelo at 2:57 PM on July 30, 2020 [3 favorites]
“Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump. PEOPLE ARE FED UP.”
-Herman Cain, before Trump’s June rally in Tulsa.
That tweet was, bizarrely, after the Tulsa rally, and approximately immediately before he announced his positive test.
Also, let's not forget that he settled with women who accused him of sexual harassment dating back to the 90s.
posted by BungaDunga at 2:59 PM on July 30, 2020 [1 favorite]
-Herman Cain, before Trump’s June rally in Tulsa.
That tweet was, bizarrely, after the Tulsa rally, and approximately immediately before he announced his positive test.
Also, let's not forget that he settled with women who accused him of sexual harassment dating back to the 90s.
posted by BungaDunga at 2:59 PM on July 30, 2020 [1 favorite]
It isn't cruel to state the fact that he probably died due to his actions, which were due to his political beliefs.More to the point (to me anyway): through his actions he increased the danger to the people around him, imperiling lives that were not his to risk.
posted by Nerd of the North at 3:06 PM on July 30, 2020 [4 favorites]
Is it a good idea to give Fox News hits from the front page? There's plenty of other sites reporting this. Here's the New York Times. In any event:
Aww shucky ducky!
Aww shitty ditty.
posted by JHarris at 3:08 PM on July 30, 2020
Aww shucky ducky!
Aww shitty ditty.
posted by JHarris at 3:08 PM on July 30, 2020
To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth.
Voltaire
posted by Splunge at 3:09 PM on July 30, 2020 [3 favorites]
Voltaire
posted by Splunge at 3:09 PM on July 30, 2020 [3 favorites]
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My feelings are complicated. I guess that is worth a dot. For certain I am sorry for his family and the people around him. More than anything, I’m surprised. If I had heard that Cain had had it, my reaction would have been the same as when I heard Gohmert had it: he’ll be fine, he has the best health care in the world, he will survive and he will have learned nothing.
Of all the high-ranking conservatives who have it or have had COVID, Cain had, I think, inflicted the least amount of human suffering in the wider world. COVID is a horrible way to die, and although I can’t say that in my heart of hearts I haven’t wished it on anybody, I have not wished it on Cain, or on any of the other fools who go courting it at rallies.
posted by Countess Elena at 3:09 PM on July 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
My feelings are complicated. I guess that is worth a dot. For certain I am sorry for his family and the people around him. More than anything, I’m surprised. If I had heard that Cain had had it, my reaction would have been the same as when I heard Gohmert had it: he’ll be fine, he has the best health care in the world, he will survive and he will have learned nothing.
Of all the high-ranking conservatives who have it or have had COVID, Cain had, I think, inflicted the least amount of human suffering in the wider world. COVID is a horrible way to die, and although I can’t say that in my heart of hearts I haven’t wished it on anybody, I have not wished it on Cain, or on any of the other fools who go courting it at rallies.
posted by Countess Elena at 3:09 PM on July 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
As an American watching my country flounder haplessly because so damn many of us listened to people like Herman Cain and Tony Green, I’m convinced;
If someone’s family has to be sacrificed on the altar, let it be the anti-maskers and their families. Let it be the “It’s a hoax” crowd and their loved ones whose tragedies are the object lesson for the nation, not those of us who have been hardcore quarantine for four goddamn months.
Because don’t try to sell me on the idea that America will smarten up absent the overfull reefer trucks. That’s just too naive and head-in-the-sand a position to take seriously.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 3:11 PM on July 30, 2020 [7 favorites]
Only after a summer of serious death and suffering will Americans mask-up and take it seriously. Not before the refrigerator trucks outside the hospitals are full and there is nowhere to put the bodies.And that is because of people like Cain and Green. Because of what they said and did, because of the ideas they put forward using their platform.
If someone’s family has to be sacrificed on the altar, let it be the anti-maskers and their families. Let it be the “It’s a hoax” crowd and their loved ones whose tragedies are the object lesson for the nation, not those of us who have been hardcore quarantine for four goddamn months.
Because don’t try to sell me on the idea that America will smarten up absent the overfull reefer trucks. That’s just too naive and head-in-the-sand a position to take seriously.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 3:11 PM on July 30, 2020 [7 favorites]
I’m just posting in order to not post a dot and I don’t care if that sounds mean.
posted by showbiz_liz at 3:11 PM on July 30, 2020 [6 favorites]
posted by showbiz_liz at 3:11 PM on July 30, 2020 [6 favorites]
Congress continued to raise the subminimum tipped wage until 1996, when Herman Cain, who headed the National Restaurant Association at the time, offered legislators a bargain: The industry would accept a small increase in the minimum wage as long as the tipped wage was frozen at $2.13 an hour.
Congress agreed to the deal, and the tipped minimum wage remains just $2.13 to this day.
His legacy has touched millions, and may his name be remembered by every worker his policy has applied to.
posted by CrystalDave at 3:11 PM on July 30, 2020 [13 favorites]
Congress agreed to the deal, and the tipped minimum wage remains just $2.13 to this day.
His legacy has touched millions, and may his name be remembered by every worker his policy has applied to.
posted by CrystalDave at 3:11 PM on July 30, 2020 [13 favorites]
Was he a COVID denier? It seems more like he just didn’t give a shit.
posted by mr_roboto at 3:12 PM on July 30, 2020
posted by mr_roboto at 3:12 PM on July 30, 2020
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