So many eggs
October 28, 2020 6:47 AM Subscribe
Yeah, i did this long enough to decide that i personally do not have a better-than-random chance of telling how a fridge-owner will vote.
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 6:57 AM on October 28, 2020 [15 favorites]
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 6:57 AM on October 28, 2020 [15 favorites]
Ashley Feinberg asks an important question.
posted by little onion at 6:57 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
posted by little onion at 6:57 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
Paging Betteridge to the white courtesy fridge.
posted by little onion at 6:58 AM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by little onion at 6:58 AM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
I got about 62%... better than the average. By mostly just guessing that the most chaotic ones were Trump supporters, and the ones with pricey brands were Biden supporters.
posted by subdee at 6:59 AM on October 28, 2020 [8 favorites]
posted by subdee at 6:59 AM on October 28, 2020 [8 favorites]
This bothers me, now that I think about it.
Are we so dug in on trying to prove that the "other side" are wholly unlike us to the point that we will even cast shade on their food choices?
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 7:01 AM on October 28, 2020 [81 favorites]
Are we so dug in on trying to prove that the "other side" are wholly unlike us to the point that we will even cast shade on their food choices?
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 7:01 AM on October 28, 2020 [81 favorites]
Surely we are just checking for class markers? Hurf durf preservative eaters?
posted by bitslayer at 7:01 AM on October 28, 2020 [47 favorites]
posted by bitslayer at 7:01 AM on October 28, 2020 [47 favorites]
I got 67%... but it honestly made me feel bad about myself that I was making so many snap judgements about regular folks. Feel a bit dirty now.
posted by widdershins at 7:05 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
posted by widdershins at 7:05 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
"Who Goes Nestea?"
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 7:05 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 7:05 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
I got 60%, which I believe is just random chance altered by the occasional reliable shibboleth--San Peligrino or almond milk for Biden, etc.
But they need to provide more data, what is their sample, did they include roughly the number of Biden fridges vs. Trump fridges as recent polling suggests?
Anyway, I guess we should be comforted that the answer here is pretty clearly no. If someone could get above 75% on a large set of these, I'd be very interested to hear what they're looking at.
posted by skewed at 7:11 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
But they need to provide more data, what is their sample, did they include roughly the number of Biden fridges vs. Trump fridges as recent polling suggests?
Anyway, I guess we should be comforted that the answer here is pretty clearly no. If someone could get above 75% on a large set of these, I'd be very interested to hear what they're looking at.
posted by skewed at 7:11 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
I was trying to gauge it by the milk cap colors, red (whole) for Trump and blue (2%) for Biden. This was a flawed approach.
posted by cazoo at 7:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
posted by cazoo at 7:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
I had a whole string of them that just seemed obvious, and ended up with 82% correct (and only that low because I started second-guessing myself at the end). I doubt I could have continued scoring that well if I had kept going; I was just lucky with the ones it showed me and my assumptions.
It's an interesting experiment, especially because it turns out people aren't able to guess the results accurately, suggesting that this is not where political differences really show up.
posted by Dip Flash at 7:15 AM on October 28, 2020
It's an interesting experiment, especially because it turns out people aren't able to guess the results accurately, suggesting that this is not where political differences really show up.
posted by Dip Flash at 7:15 AM on October 28, 2020
This is fascinating. I recommend reading the article and looking at the incorrect guesses and the details/clues, including the ones that caused wrong guesses. Also, my guessing was not particularly good.
posted by brainwane at 7:16 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by brainwane at 7:16 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
But they need to provide more data, what is their sample, did they include roughly the number of Biden fridges vs. Trump fridges as recent polling suggests?
From the article:
Lucid used an online survey available to U.S. residents using mobile phones from Sept. 25 to Sept. 30, providing the Times with 1,010 responses. For the game, we included images from people who said they planned to vote for president, planned to vote for either Mr. Trump or Mr. Biden, took the picture themselves, and gave permission to publish it. We omitted images from people who said that not all of the voters in the household supported the same candidate, as well as images that were very dark, blurry or appeared elsewhere on the internet. Here, we have shown a balance of images from Biden and Trump supporters.
posted by hepta at 7:17 AM on October 28, 2020
From the article:
Lucid used an online survey available to U.S. residents using mobile phones from Sept. 25 to Sept. 30, providing the Times with 1,010 responses. For the game, we included images from people who said they planned to vote for president, planned to vote for either Mr. Trump or Mr. Biden, took the picture themselves, and gave permission to publish it. We omitted images from people who said that not all of the voters in the household supported the same candidate, as well as images that were very dark, blurry or appeared elsewhere on the internet. Here, we have shown a balance of images from Biden and Trump supporters.
posted by hepta at 7:17 AM on October 28, 2020
An underrated perk of being a New York Times reporter is you get to just call Justin McElroy and chat about refrigerators whenever you want, apparently
posted by theodolite at 7:18 AM on October 28, 2020 [27 favorites]
posted by theodolite at 7:18 AM on October 28, 2020 [27 favorites]
I was honestly expecting this to be a College Humor post or something, is this really what NYT calls journalism?
C'mon guys. I don't care what people eat, and the reasons they eat what they do are personal and weird and none of my business.
posted by emjaybee at 7:20 AM on October 28, 2020 [15 favorites]
C'mon guys. I don't care what people eat, and the reasons they eat what they do are personal and weird and none of my business.
posted by emjaybee at 7:20 AM on October 28, 2020 [15 favorites]
Thanks hepta, I didn't read the note at the bottom. "Here, we have shown a balance of images from Biden and Trump supporters." So, I guess we can safely ignore all the rest and just treat it as the interesting clickbait it was meant to be.
posted by skewed at 7:24 AM on October 28, 2020
posted by skewed at 7:24 AM on October 28, 2020
Sounds fun, wish it wasn't paywalled.
posted by tiny frying pan at 7:42 AM on October 28, 2020 [13 favorites]
posted by tiny frying pan at 7:42 AM on October 28, 2020 [13 favorites]
75 guesses, 63% correct. My main criteria was, “Does this look like a college student’s fridge?” If so, Biden. That served me pretty damn well, only had a few misses on fridges I thought looked like college students’. My other criteria was of it was a huge fridge stuffed with fancy or healthy looking food, it was probably a rich suburban fridge, hence Trump. That also served me pretty well.
It was just everything in between those two was a toss-up. So yeah, it’s about class markers, though not necessarily what people might assume about Trump vs Biden supporters.
posted by brook horse at 7:42 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
It was just everything in between those two was a toss-up. So yeah, it’s about class markers, though not necessarily what people might assume about Trump vs Biden supporters.
posted by brook horse at 7:42 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
This makes me unreasonably mad, mostly because of the yellow mustard = Trump detail. I have both yellow and hot mustard in my fridge, does that make me a moderate? Guess I'm still scarred by dijon-gate from way back in the Obama before-times.
Also, the Butter Battle Book taught me that food politics inevitably lead to civil war.
posted by swift at 7:42 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Also, the Butter Battle Book taught me that food politics inevitably lead to civil war.
posted by swift at 7:42 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I got 100% but only because I couldn't work out how to make it give me more than one fridge to guess.
posted by flabdablet at 7:47 AM on October 28, 2020 [16 favorites]
posted by flabdablet at 7:47 AM on October 28, 2020 [16 favorites]
I tried to look at both signifiers and gestalts.
For signifiers, for example, some foods that were pretty good indicators, such as Latinx products like Jumex, or non-mainstream foods were more likely to vote Biden. Certain types of take-out containers, like foam clamshells, indicate Biden voting. The reusable plastic shaker cups that bros use for their protein shakes were a good Trump indicator. I assumed Trump voters were going to be more likely to be Walmart shoppers, for example, so a lot of "Great Value" brand items would be a hypothetical giveaway. That assumption flew in back my face pretty quickly because everybody shops at Walmart.
For gestalts, I assumed huge fridges were more likely to belong to Trump voters since they're only going to fit in houses in the exurbs or countryside, statistically Trump-leaning. Things I wouldn't put in the fridge, like onions or bread, would also hypothetically represent Trump preference. A really sparse fridge with just mayo, energy drinks, and some eggs was a slam-dunk Trumpist.
For all that overthinking I only got 66% and more than a few of my guesses were still pretty random hits/misses. A lot of Americans' class-indicator foods aren't kept in the fridge, or they're hidden in opaque containers. And for the most part we don't have some of the class segregations for food that other nations do -- at least until you're talking about the upper tiers of the middle class and above -- and to the extent we do, it's more about where we eat than what we keep in the fridge.
posted by at by at 7:51 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
For signifiers, for example, some foods that were pretty good indicators, such as Latinx products like Jumex, or non-mainstream foods were more likely to vote Biden. Certain types of take-out containers, like foam clamshells, indicate Biden voting. The reusable plastic shaker cups that bros use for their protein shakes were a good Trump indicator. I assumed Trump voters were going to be more likely to be Walmart shoppers, for example, so a lot of "Great Value" brand items would be a hypothetical giveaway. That assumption flew in back my face pretty quickly because everybody shops at Walmart.
For gestalts, I assumed huge fridges were more likely to belong to Trump voters since they're only going to fit in houses in the exurbs or countryside, statistically Trump-leaning. Things I wouldn't put in the fridge, like onions or bread, would also hypothetically represent Trump preference. A really sparse fridge with just mayo, energy drinks, and some eggs was a slam-dunk Trumpist.
For all that overthinking I only got 66% and more than a few of my guesses were still pretty random hits/misses. A lot of Americans' class-indicator foods aren't kept in the fridge, or they're hidden in opaque containers. And for the most part we don't have some of the class segregations for food that other nations do -- at least until you're talking about the upper tiers of the middle class and above -- and to the extent we do, it's more about where we eat than what we keep in the fridge.
posted by at by at 7:51 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
What I learned from this is that everybody's refrigerator is existentially terrifying in its own special way.
posted by Strange Interlude at 7:56 AM on October 28, 2020 [28 favorites]
posted by Strange Interlude at 7:56 AM on October 28, 2020 [28 favorites]
STOP
posted by eustatic at 7:59 AM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by eustatic at 7:59 AM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
is this really what NYT calls journalism
No, this is probably what the NYT calls a news-adjacent amusement. It's not like they're sending fewer reporters to Afghanistan so they can run this quiz.
posted by neroli at 8:02 AM on October 28, 2020 [38 favorites]
No, this is probably what the NYT calls a news-adjacent amusement. It's not like they're sending fewer reporters to Afghanistan so they can run this quiz.
posted by neroli at 8:02 AM on October 28, 2020 [38 favorites]
Conspicuously foreign food, premium alcohol, milk not from cows, anything marked organic? Pick Biden. Sports or energy drinks? Pick Trump. (And, because I'm a terrible person, people whose fridge is filthy? Pick Trump.)
This strategy did not work as well as I thought it would (Trump supporters might not like Mexican immigrants, but they sure like their salsa and beer), which is probably what the NYT wanted me to take away from all this. At least, that's what I'm going to tell myself, since the alternative is that I clicked on 200 strangers' refrigerators and didn't learn a thing.
posted by box at 8:10 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
This strategy did not work as well as I thought it would (Trump supporters might not like Mexican immigrants, but they sure like their salsa and beer), which is probably what the NYT wanted me to take away from all this. At least, that's what I'm going to tell myself, since the alternative is that I clicked on 200 strangers' refrigerators and didn't learn a thing.
posted by box at 8:10 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
I too remember the fancy mustard "slam" from the Obama days so that was the first thing I looked for. Then fresh fruit and veggies. 85% correct but only on a sample of ~15-20.
posted by MarvinTheCat at 8:14 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by MarvinTheCat at 8:14 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
See, organic was a Trump signifier to me because white suburban women. Specifically, if the fridge looked like my mom’s, I went Trump.
Which is, again, why these signifiers don’t track the way you think they would, so yeah; the point.
posted by brook horse at 8:15 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
Which is, again, why these signifiers don’t track the way you think they would, so yeah; the point.
posted by brook horse at 8:15 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
Also sports or energy drinks = college student to me, so I ended up guessing Biden on those fridges and was largely correct.
posted by brook horse at 8:16 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by brook horse at 8:16 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
while Trump supporters over-index on Ken's salad dressing and Pace picante sauce.
These "ordinary American" tax policies were made in New York City! New York City?!
posted by traveler_ at 8:23 AM on October 28, 2020 [34 favorites]
These "ordinary American" tax policies were made in New York City! New York City?!
posted by traveler_ at 8:23 AM on October 28, 2020 [34 favorites]
Cripes. How much milk do Americans drink? I am astonished. I didn't realize I lived in a fridge bubble.
posted by eotvos at 8:27 AM on October 28, 2020 [13 favorites]
posted by eotvos at 8:27 AM on October 28, 2020 [13 favorites]
Teenaged kids + reduced shopping trips from COVID = a lot of milk in your fridge at any point in time.
posted by mookoz at 8:30 AM on October 28, 2020 [9 favorites]
posted by mookoz at 8:30 AM on October 28, 2020 [9 favorites]
Cripes. How much milk do Americans drink?
My son-in-law goes through 2-3 gallons a week on his own. It's 2%, but still.
posted by Thorzdad at 8:31 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
My son-in-law goes through 2-3 gallons a week on his own. It's 2%, but still.
posted by Thorzdad at 8:31 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
I am a communist, basically, and my fridge is diet coke, ketchup, cheese, butter, pickles and a lot of empty space. I suspect it would have been tagged Trump.
posted by maxwelton at 8:34 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
posted by maxwelton at 8:34 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
I am really, really bad at this. Wow!
I also learned that my fridge is neither very full nor very cluttered.
posted by Gray Duck at 8:35 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
I also learned that my fridge is neither very full nor very cluttered.
posted by Gray Duck at 8:35 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
traveler_ I laughed very hard. Thank you. Everyone who wasn't watching US television in the 1980s-1990s: here's the reference.
posted by brainwane at 8:36 AM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by brainwane at 8:36 AM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
To be clear, I've got absolutely nothing against drinking milk or people who do so. I'm just surprised by the volume. (I buy 1/2 liter bottles and usually throw out half of it when it spoils.) My experience opening other people's fridges has been pretty similar to my home, as far as I can recall.
Also, I'm around 48%, which is probably consistent with random chance. Interesting.
posted by eotvos at 8:37 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Also, I'm around 48%, which is probably consistent with random chance. Interesting.
posted by eotvos at 8:37 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I looked for "exotic" cheese, vegetarian milk, and fresh veggies, or any "foreign" food. Got a 70% accurate rating. I forgot about the Obama mustard panic so I didnt look for yellow mistard as a Trump signifier.
When in doubt I went by how healthy I'd consider the food and went Trump for the less healthy fridges.
EmpressCallipygos that we will even cast shade on their food choices?
I think its less casting shade and more acknowledging the sad realities that voting is often class linked, and that conservatives have made a contempt for healthy eating one of their in group markers.
More often than not people who sneer at "rabbit food" are right wing. There is a subset of gym bros who vote Trump, but on average Trump voters are beligerantly proud of living an unhealthy lifestyle and eating in an unhealthy way.
posted by sotonohito at 8:38 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
When in doubt I went by how healthy I'd consider the food and went Trump for the less healthy fridges.
EmpressCallipygos that we will even cast shade on their food choices?
I think its less casting shade and more acknowledging the sad realities that voting is often class linked, and that conservatives have made a contempt for healthy eating one of their in group markers.
More often than not people who sneer at "rabbit food" are right wing. There is a subset of gym bros who vote Trump, but on average Trump voters are beligerantly proud of living an unhealthy lifestyle and eating in an unhealthy way.
posted by sotonohito at 8:38 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
How much milk do Americans drink?
GOMAD: Gallon Of Milk A Day is a thing some weightlifters do. (That would be 3.7 liters).
posted by TheophileEscargot at 8:39 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
GOMAD: Gallon Of Milk A Day is a thing some weightlifters do. (That would be 3.7 liters).
posted by TheophileEscargot at 8:39 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Of course it is impossible to tell, especially with a set-up like this. My parents are wealthy, educated and racist. My mom loves going to a Mexican restaurant that has mariachis and my dad is not even white, but they would be happy to stop all immigration from Latin America and the Middle East, or even put them in cages. There's no way you could tell their politics from their fridge.
posted by snofoam at 8:45 AM on October 28, 2020 [9 favorites]
posted by snofoam at 8:45 AM on October 28, 2020 [9 favorites]
As a teen I used to go play tennis in the 100 degree F sun for a few hours, then come home and drink an entire half gallon of milk out of the the container. One gallon is the normal milk size in an American family fridge. Between drinking it and the ubiquity of cold cereal as a breakfast and snack food, we went through multiple gallons a week in a three person home.
Also I was bad at the quiz.
posted by freecellwizard at 8:47 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
Also I was bad at the quiz.
posted by freecellwizard at 8:47 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
See, organic was a Trump signifier to me because white suburban women. Specifically, if the fridge looked like my mom’s, I went Trump.
Isn’t that the demographic that is supposedly fleeing Trump this time?
I like that people in this thread have gone both ways in attempting to assign class markers to a candidate and ended up getting 60 percent both ways.
posted by atoxyl at 8:49 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
Isn’t that the demographic that is supposedly fleeing Trump this time?
I like that people in this thread have gone both ways in attempting to assign class markers to a candidate and ended up getting 60 percent both ways.
posted by atoxyl at 8:49 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
Isn’t that the demographic that is supposedly fleeing Trump this time?
God I wish my mother were one of them.
posted by brook horse at 8:52 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
God I wish my mother were one of them.
posted by brook horse at 8:52 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
55% out of 20 clicks. I was surprised at how different an American refrigerator looks from a European one. Specially like others have said: all the milk and eggs!!!! I generally clicked on Trump if the milk containers were very large, because I imagine that people in cities have smaller refrigerators and want space in them for other things than milk.
I didn't get the point with the college students living on soda and not much else, which is really weird since I share my apartment with four 21-year-olds. I guess the fact that two of them are food industry workers who actually cook from scratch at home overshadows that the other two live on soda and take-out.
Since I am not American and in spite of having lived in the US and attended American schools abroad, I have no idea of what class/income bracket different food brands imply.
Here, protein enriched food is a clear indicator of right wing politics, because you have to be a bit stupid to do that to yourself without medical instruction, and these years, right wing almost always indicates ignorant. (I have conservative friends who are not stupid, they struggle). "My" boys (my roomies) work out, but they eat food, not stuff from buckets.
posted by mumimor at 8:58 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I didn't get the point with the college students living on soda and not much else, which is really weird since I share my apartment with four 21-year-olds. I guess the fact that two of them are food industry workers who actually cook from scratch at home overshadows that the other two live on soda and take-out.
Since I am not American and in spite of having lived in the US and attended American schools abroad, I have no idea of what class/income bracket different food brands imply.
Here, protein enriched food is a clear indicator of right wing politics, because you have to be a bit stupid to do that to yourself without medical instruction, and these years, right wing almost always indicates ignorant. (I have conservative friends who are not stupid, they struggle). "My" boys (my roomies) work out, but they eat food, not stuff from buckets.
posted by mumimor at 8:58 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
More often than not people who sneer at "rabbit food" are right wing. There is a subset of gym bros who vote Trump, but on average Trump voters are beligerantly proud of living an unhealthy lifestyle and eating in an unhealthy way.
You mean that this is the stereotype of Trump voters. And as many in here have been saying, following those stereotypes is often incorrect.
Yes, okay, the upshot of this quiz is that maybe people have a Learning Moment and find out that their stereotypes were wrong, but this still reminds us of those stereotypes and I'd wager it just reinforces thems.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 8:59 AM on October 28, 2020 [10 favorites]
You mean that this is the stereotype of Trump voters. And as many in here have been saying, following those stereotypes is often incorrect.
Yes, okay, the upshot of this quiz is that maybe people have a Learning Moment and find out that their stereotypes were wrong, but this still reminds us of those stereotypes and I'd wager it just reinforces thems.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 8:59 AM on October 28, 2020 [10 favorites]
You mean that this is the stereotype of Trump voters. And as many in here have been saying, following those stereotypes is often incorrect.
It's funny how pervasive this sentiment for both liberals and conservatives is because it is so very incorrect:
It's funny how pervasive this sentiment for both liberals and conservatives is because it is so very incorrect:
We can look at exit poll data another way. More of Trump’s actual base of support was made up of wealthier Americans. He won a plurality of voters earning more than $50,000 a year, but nearly 7 in 10 of the people who actually voted for him were in that income group. (By contrast, only about 6 in 10 Clinton voters earned more than $50,000 a year.)posted by Ouverture at 9:03 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
Both of my roommates drink regular milk, and the most far left member of the household likes plain yellow mustard. At the beginning of the month, after I've done the shopping for the month, the fridge is jammed full, at the end of the month, it's relatively sparse. We're all far left on the political spectrum, well on the US political spectrum anyway.
posted by evilDoug at 9:04 AM on October 28, 2020
posted by evilDoug at 9:04 AM on October 28, 2020
With apologies for thread sitting (and a weird milk derail), I find this really fascinating.
I'd love to see the same thing for one's music catalogue, wall art, non-work clothing, choice of tourist sites to visit, etc. I suspect my totally unfounded assumptions about the correlation between aesthetics and politics may need some adjustment. Fridges are nearly ideal, since I doubt many stock their fridge as a performance. (Unlike, say, choosing a beer in public.)
posted by eotvos at 9:04 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I'd love to see the same thing for one's music catalogue, wall art, non-work clothing, choice of tourist sites to visit, etc. I suspect my totally unfounded assumptions about the correlation between aesthetics and politics may need some adjustment. Fridges are nearly ideal, since I doubt many stock their fridge as a performance. (Unlike, say, choosing a beer in public.)
posted by eotvos at 9:04 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
The Trump fridge is the one with frozen supporters in it.
posted by guiseroom at 9:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [20 favorites]
posted by guiseroom at 9:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [20 favorites]
This was fun. I was great at it for a while, but ended up in the 60% range (earlier this morning, different laptop.)
A similar quiz comparing recycling bins would be interesting, too.
posted by emelenjr at 9:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
A similar quiz comparing recycling bins would be interesting, too.
posted by emelenjr at 9:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
The distinction with regular vs low fat milk is that people who are super into Organic healthy options will look for non-homogenised milk (for the relatively large milk-fat globules) and that is by definition going to be full fat.
posted by Lanark at 9:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by Lanark at 9:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
If you, like me, got around 50%, please continue to say nothing so that we can all be amazed that there's a real signal here.
If you got worse than 50%, definitely please say nothing, that would be embarrassing.
But if you flipped 50 coins and got more than 64% right -- two standard deviations above the mean! -- please let us all know that you are among the 2% of people expected to do so.
What I mean to say is that without knowing how many people are silently trying, it is hard to say whether there is any meaning to those who did well -- i.e. that there is a discernible difference between Trump and Biden fridges if you just know what to look for -- or whether this is just a demonstration into how people can convince themselves of patterns even when they are not there. You know, the effect that drives the homeopathic drug industry and keeps con-men in business.
posted by brambleboy at 9:13 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
If you got worse than 50%, definitely please say nothing, that would be embarrassing.
But if you flipped 50 coins and got more than 64% right -- two standard deviations above the mean! -- please let us all know that you are among the 2% of people expected to do so.
What I mean to say is that without knowing how many people are silently trying, it is hard to say whether there is any meaning to those who did well -- i.e. that there is a discernible difference between Trump and Biden fridges if you just know what to look for -- or whether this is just a demonstration into how people can convince themselves of patterns even when they are not there. You know, the effect that drives the homeopathic drug industry and keeps con-men in business.
posted by brambleboy at 9:13 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
With apologies for thread sitting (and a weird milk derail), I find this really fascinating.
The milk derail is not weird, it's fascinating!
"According to the U. S. Department of Agriculture, the average person drinks 18 gallons a year. Back in the 1970s it was more like 30 gallons a year"
NPR Milk
So an average 2.5 person US household drinks 45 gallons year, which means that slightly below an average of 1 gallon per week, so on average, a household will have a gallon jug of milk in the fridge.
posted by The_Vegetables at 9:13 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
The milk derail is not weird, it's fascinating!
"According to the U. S. Department of Agriculture, the average person drinks 18 gallons a year. Back in the 1970s it was more like 30 gallons a year"
NPR Milk
So an average 2.5 person US household drinks 45 gallons year, which means that slightly below an average of 1 gallon per week, so on average, a household will have a gallon jug of milk in the fridge.
posted by The_Vegetables at 9:13 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
I got 50% correct before I got bored - no better than flipping a coin. I went to look at my own fridge and realized that there were no obvious political signifiers in it either (Heineken beer and sriracha = liberal? Diet Mountain Dew and Duke's mayonnaise = conservative?) My bookshelves on the other hand would be a dead giveaway (do Trump voters even have bookshelves?)
posted by Daily Alice at 9:14 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by Daily Alice at 9:14 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
I love this ONLY because I love creeping on people’s houses and fridges, and it makes me sad that the Korean show Chef & My Fridge appears not to be on Netflix anymore (they would bring entire celebrity fridges onto the show, discuss and tease them about the contents, and then chefs would battle to create requested dishes out of the contents. It was so great).
posted by jeweled accumulation at 9:15 AM on October 28, 2020 [9 favorites]
posted by jeweled accumulation at 9:15 AM on October 28, 2020 [9 favorites]
Conclusion: no.
posted by jquinby at 9:16 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by jquinby at 9:16 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Anyone remember this bit about liberal vs conservative desk organization from a while back? This is sort of like that, but that also involved some real research by real psychologists.
(Ok it was 12 years ago wow time flies! Probably more serious research has been done since then, I'd look it up but I have to go fix up some leftovers from my fridge for lunch. Vegetarian shepherds pie: guess my vote :)
posted by SaltySalticid at 9:20 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
(Ok it was 12 years ago wow time flies! Probably more serious research has been done since then, I'd look it up but I have to go fix up some leftovers from my fridge for lunch. Vegetarian shepherds pie: guess my vote :)
posted by SaltySalticid at 9:20 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I had a great streak at the start which gave me a false sense of confidence but it averaged out to about 55% when I kept going, so... this probably says more about how monolithic the food supply chain is in America than anything else?
Also, people keep some wild shit in their fridge — a whole cooler, really?
posted by OverlappingElvis at 9:26 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Also, people keep some wild shit in their fridge — a whole cooler, really?
posted by OverlappingElvis at 9:26 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I got 52% from 20 or so. I really want to see a breakdown between Americans and international users, as I had near zero knowledge of any brands and I would be curious as to the difference that makes.
posted by knapah at 9:29 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by knapah at 9:29 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Sometimes a refrigerator is just a refrigerator
posted by Going To Maine at 9:33 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by Going To Maine at 9:33 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
80% wooooo I am good at "fridge guessing" what do I win?
(please tell me my prize is a new president)
posted by caution live frogs at 9:36 AM on October 28, 2020 [18 favorites]
(please tell me my prize is a new president)
posted by caution live frogs at 9:36 AM on October 28, 2020 [18 favorites]
More often than not people who sneer at "rabbit food" are right wing. There is a subset of gym bros who vote Trump, but on average Trump voters are beligerantly proud of living an unhealthy lifestyle and eating in an unhealthy way.
You mean that this is the stereotype of Trump voters. And as many in here have been saying, following those stereotypes is often incorrect.
Yeah, listen. My entire family--except for the gay aunt--votes Trump. My dad's side is the demographic you're talking about. My mom is extremely into health food. Guess what, she's also anti-vax and into essential oils and buys everything organic and is all about ancient grains and whatever the new health fad is. All of her white suburban mom friends (and she has a LOT of them) are the same. They're all voting for Trump. Not to over-analyze, but I think it's a combination of trying to assert control as well as being easily taken in by woo (not that all healthy eating is, but the 'organic' label often means nothing, GMOs aren't what you think, elderberry or cod liver or essential oils will not cure your every ill, etc.). Plus, lots of rich people vote for Trump. And lots of working class people grasping at class signifiers (like organic food and salads) to look rich also vote Trump. So sure, there's a demographic of Trump supporters that fit that stereotype, but I'm skeptical you can even call it 'average.' One of the major mistakes is underestimating what Trump supporters look like--it's easier to dismiss them as outliers, that way. But they permeate our society and the actual voting demographics don't line up with the stereotypes, as in Ouverture's link.
Also, not having healthy food =/= sneering at it. Lots of people acknowledge that healthy food is important, but can't access it due to time or cost or location or disability. People in these demographics are not cleanly D vs R. Healthy food in the fridge just means you have time and money. Which the data shows skews more towards Trump, actually.
posted by brook horse at 9:37 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
You mean that this is the stereotype of Trump voters. And as many in here have been saying, following those stereotypes is often incorrect.
Yeah, listen. My entire family--except for the gay aunt--votes Trump. My dad's side is the demographic you're talking about. My mom is extremely into health food. Guess what, she's also anti-vax and into essential oils and buys everything organic and is all about ancient grains and whatever the new health fad is. All of her white suburban mom friends (and she has a LOT of them) are the same. They're all voting for Trump. Not to over-analyze, but I think it's a combination of trying to assert control as well as being easily taken in by woo (not that all healthy eating is, but the 'organic' label often means nothing, GMOs aren't what you think, elderberry or cod liver or essential oils will not cure your every ill, etc.). Plus, lots of rich people vote for Trump. And lots of working class people grasping at class signifiers (like organic food and salads) to look rich also vote Trump. So sure, there's a demographic of Trump supporters that fit that stereotype, but I'm skeptical you can even call it 'average.' One of the major mistakes is underestimating what Trump supporters look like--it's easier to dismiss them as outliers, that way. But they permeate our society and the actual voting demographics don't line up with the stereotypes, as in Ouverture's link.
Also, not having healthy food =/= sneering at it. Lots of people acknowledge that healthy food is important, but can't access it due to time or cost or location or disability. People in these demographics are not cleanly D vs R. Healthy food in the fridge just means you have time and money. Which the data shows skews more towards Trump, actually.
posted by brook horse at 9:37 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
Also who is this guy they brought in at the end, judging people who keep peanut butter in the fridge? The natural kinds that are made from peanuts require refrigeration. The bullshit garbage orangutan-killing palm kernel oil "no stir" pretenders that are loaded with sugar may be shelf-stable, but my peanut butter contains peanuts, salt, and not one goddamn thing else. It stays in the fridge.
posted by caution live frogs at 9:38 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
posted by caution live frogs at 9:38 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
TIL: I am not a fridge whisperer. And also, several (mostly harmless) biases and assumptions were exposed.
posted by Godspeed.You!Black.Emperor.Penguin at 9:42 AM on October 28, 2020
posted by Godspeed.You!Black.Emperor.Penguin at 9:42 AM on October 28, 2020
I find this weird and a little troubling and suggest we all look in Prince's fridge instead
(yes it's fiction and yet in many ways truer than reality)
posted by babelfish at 9:43 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
(yes it's fiction and yet in many ways truer than reality)
posted by babelfish at 9:43 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
Cripes. How much milk do Americans drink? I am astonished.
I used to drink 4 gallons of milk a week, by myself, in my teens to late 20s. These days I'm closer to 2 gallons a week, and that aligns roughly with being able to afford other sources of fat and protein (like cheese! god I love dairy). But I've always loved milk and it's always the #1 grocery item that forces me to make trips to the store. More people should drink milk if they can digest it imo, a tall glass of 2% is such a better snack than a handful of pretzels or whatever it is that normal people/non dairy fiends snack on.
My Trump-voting parents drink a lot of milk, too, but nowhere near like what I do. My Trump-voting brother drinks almost no milk anymore, but he's learned to supplement his diet with beer and guns.
posted by phunniemee at 9:43 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
I used to drink 4 gallons of milk a week, by myself, in my teens to late 20s. These days I'm closer to 2 gallons a week, and that aligns roughly with being able to afford other sources of fat and protein (like cheese! god I love dairy). But I've always loved milk and it's always the #1 grocery item that forces me to make trips to the store. More people should drink milk if they can digest it imo, a tall glass of 2% is such a better snack than a handful of pretzels or whatever it is that normal people/non dairy fiends snack on.
My Trump-voting parents drink a lot of milk, too, but nowhere near like what I do. My Trump-voting brother drinks almost no milk anymore, but he's learned to supplement his diet with beer and guns.
posted by phunniemee at 9:43 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
"According to the U. S. Department of Agriculture, the average person drinks 18 gallons a year. Back in the 1970s it was more like 30 gallons a year"
The US population was more lactose tolerant in the 1970s (as it was less diverse); this population is also aging as a whole, and some people develop issues with lactose digestion as they get older. The New York Times has reached an excruciating new level of food snobbery, an article at The Takeout, quotes Dan Rather on Twitter:
I am sorry. I don’t want to editorialize. But this is NUTS. You’re the @nytimes. Have some respect for yourself.
posted by Iris Gambol at 10:06 AM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
The US population was more lactose tolerant in the 1970s (as it was less diverse); this population is also aging as a whole, and some people develop issues with lactose digestion as they get older. The New York Times has reached an excruciating new level of food snobbery, an article at The Takeout, quotes Dan Rather on Twitter:
I am sorry. I don’t want to editorialize. But this is NUTS. You’re the @nytimes. Have some respect for yourself.
posted by Iris Gambol at 10:06 AM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
Not to spoil the fun here, but I can't help but feel it's ridiculous for the paper of record to be running something so trivial so close to the most important election in our lifetimes.
posted by thoughtful_jester at 10:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by thoughtful_jester at 10:12 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
I went in looking for evidence of food from non-white people's cultures. But it looks like these were all white people's fridges. I bet you anything game is rigged - specifically that it's erasing hispanic people, Black people, east- and south- Asian people, etc. Not one fridge had leftover curry in tupperware or bok choy in the crisper, come the fuck on.
In addition, this game is designed to recreate patriarchal assumptions and biases. Like. Who is "claiming" this fridge which clearly contains food items belonging to several people? Why should we assume they all vote alike? And are we supposed to believe that whoever "claimed" the fridge also does the grocery shopping and the meal planning for everyone who shares that fridge? That's not a good assumption at all.
Forgive me for taking an online quiz too seriously or whatever, but damn. This exercise would show some stark truths, I bet, if the photos picked were more a random representative sample (and corrected for who did the grocery shopping).
>> Are we so dug in on trying to prove that the "other side" are wholly unlike us to the point that we will even cast shade on their food choices?
Whiteness is a pretty reliable predictor of Trump support, so, yeah, the "other side" is wholly unlike me at least in this respect. *shrug emoji* It is what it is. I'm not a meanie for noting it.
(I got 68%)
posted by MiraK at 10:14 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
In addition, this game is designed to recreate patriarchal assumptions and biases. Like. Who is "claiming" this fridge which clearly contains food items belonging to several people? Why should we assume they all vote alike? And are we supposed to believe that whoever "claimed" the fridge also does the grocery shopping and the meal planning for everyone who shares that fridge? That's not a good assumption at all.
Forgive me for taking an online quiz too seriously or whatever, but damn. This exercise would show some stark truths, I bet, if the photos picked were more a random representative sample (and corrected for who did the grocery shopping).
>> Are we so dug in on trying to prove that the "other side" are wholly unlike us to the point that we will even cast shade on their food choices?
Whiteness is a pretty reliable predictor of Trump support, so, yeah, the "other side" is wholly unlike me at least in this respect. *shrug emoji* It is what it is. I'm not a meanie for noting it.
(I got 68%)
posted by MiraK at 10:14 AM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
It is ridiculous but if there was ever a year for ridiculousness, it was this one.
The common element I found that could mostly-reliably identify a trump fridge was the presence of leftovers with no plastic wrap, tinfoil, tupperware, or anything. Just raw-dogging their leftovers on a shelf, no protection, sometimes even with the fork still on it. Seems poignant enough to make a bitter joke about.
posted by GoblinHoney at 10:15 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
The common element I found that could mostly-reliably identify a trump fridge was the presence of leftovers with no plastic wrap, tinfoil, tupperware, or anything. Just raw-dogging their leftovers on a shelf, no protection, sometimes even with the fork still on it. Seems poignant enough to make a bitter joke about.
posted by GoblinHoney at 10:15 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
I got exactly 50% on 20 guesses. So random then. Then I thought about the three fridges in our house. One sporadically doesn't cool but is massive - we just keep beer and some other non-perishable drinks and stuff in it - it leans Trump I guess. We have a second mini fridge next to it for things that really need to be cold - it leans Biden (way too much Whole Foods salad in there).
The third is the "school room" glass door under counter fridge for our two home-school kids, nanny, and various therapists so they don't need to come into our kitchen - and have a space they can store their lunch without needing to deal with our mini-fridge situation above etc.). It probably leans anally retentive Green - I "merchandise it" for the kids every day before school with lots of healthy snacks and choices. Almost everything is organic in it, and whenever I go into it I feel like I should be doing more to get fit and be better at recycling. I put some juice boxes in it with plastic straws the other day and I swear the fridge gave a little fridge motor groan - which I assume was a passive aggressive comment about not using reusable straws.
posted by inflatablekiwi at 10:21 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
The third is the "school room" glass door under counter fridge for our two home-school kids, nanny, and various therapists so they don't need to come into our kitchen - and have a space they can store their lunch without needing to deal with our mini-fridge situation above etc.). It probably leans anally retentive Green - I "merchandise it" for the kids every day before school with lots of healthy snacks and choices. Almost everything is organic in it, and whenever I go into it I feel like I should be doing more to get fit and be better at recycling. I put some juice boxes in it with plastic straws the other day and I swear the fridge gave a little fridge motor groan - which I assume was a passive aggressive comment about not using reusable straws.
posted by inflatablekiwi at 10:21 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
No, this is probably what the NYT calls a news-adjacent amusement. It's not like they're sending fewer reporters to Afghanistan so they can run this quiz.
John Keefe: I've been working on this story for 9 months, I have credible documented reports that Trump personally has been in contact with the Kremlin. His line of communication wants to speak ...
NYT: We are the NYT we have a job to do, entertain white collar workers with quizzes that validate their stereotypes about voters.
JK: But he wants to meet, he says he has video evidence of Donald, Ivanka and Jared Kushner literally giving Putin information!
NYT Editor, staring at the window: When I came here I was a bright eyed journalism student out of Michigan, much like you. I wanted to do one thing: make people feel guilty by making the Style section as aspirational and unattainable a possible. Ever read a Real Estate column and casually mention a hot new trend in real estate that involves $2million homes and the age of the person is 31 and does something like run a spin class and wonder how the fuck does a fitness instructor not only afford that but have enough disposable income to follow real estate trends and not make the purchase as a major life decision? That's me. Ever get a trickle of class anxiety when you read that someone is clutching a Chanel bag that's $16k and already outside of your price range but then it mentions that it is a heritage bag meaning that not only does the woman clutching it have wealthy parents who handed down a $16k bag but also apparently a healthy relationship with their parents? That's me...
JK: But I don't want to do the refrigerator article! Please, there's evidence that Amy Barrett never went to law school. Certainly maybe I can do the article later?
NYT Editor: It is a Wednesday dammit! And we need eyeballs clicking. The survey is perfect it is interactive. The engagement values are through the roof. My god I remember my first beat, it was a condescending article about how Sex in the City brought NYC to middle America and threw shade on anyone who came here after it aired. God that was 20 years ago and I still make people feel guilty that they came here only because of a premium cable television show. God, this refrigerator article will do just that! Have you mentioned Ohio in there yet? We need people to think of their parents when they read that, that's what really makes them text the article to their friends. Oh is there a $20 salad from Postmates? God our ad-buys will skyrocket, quick call up Jean le Creuset of the Creuset family. We need a Biden fridge that looks like a college student and one of the $500 Creuset pots right there in the middle. Just reminding them that even if you don't have money you have enough to buy Creuset. Yes, yes! Hahaha let it burn! Let it all burn!
posted by geoff. at 10:23 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
John Keefe: I've been working on this story for 9 months, I have credible documented reports that Trump personally has been in contact with the Kremlin. His line of communication wants to speak ...
NYT: We are the NYT we have a job to do, entertain white collar workers with quizzes that validate their stereotypes about voters.
JK: But he wants to meet, he says he has video evidence of Donald, Ivanka and Jared Kushner literally giving Putin information!
NYT Editor, staring at the window: When I came here I was a bright eyed journalism student out of Michigan, much like you. I wanted to do one thing: make people feel guilty by making the Style section as aspirational and unattainable a possible. Ever read a Real Estate column and casually mention a hot new trend in real estate that involves $2million homes and the age of the person is 31 and does something like run a spin class and wonder how the fuck does a fitness instructor not only afford that but have enough disposable income to follow real estate trends and not make the purchase as a major life decision? That's me. Ever get a trickle of class anxiety when you read that someone is clutching a Chanel bag that's $16k and already outside of your price range but then it mentions that it is a heritage bag meaning that not only does the woman clutching it have wealthy parents who handed down a $16k bag but also apparently a healthy relationship with their parents? That's me...
JK: But I don't want to do the refrigerator article! Please, there's evidence that Amy Barrett never went to law school. Certainly maybe I can do the article later?
NYT Editor: It is a Wednesday dammit! And we need eyeballs clicking. The survey is perfect it is interactive. The engagement values are through the roof. My god I remember my first beat, it was a condescending article about how Sex in the City brought NYC to middle America and threw shade on anyone who came here after it aired. God that was 20 years ago and I still make people feel guilty that they came here only because of a premium cable television show. God, this refrigerator article will do just that! Have you mentioned Ohio in there yet? We need people to think of their parents when they read that, that's what really makes them text the article to their friends. Oh is there a $20 salad from Postmates? God our ad-buys will skyrocket, quick call up Jean le Creuset of the Creuset family. We need a Biden fridge that looks like a college student and one of the $500 Creuset pots right there in the middle. Just reminding them that even if you don't have money you have enough to buy Creuset. Yes, yes! Hahaha let it burn! Let it all burn!
posted by geoff. at 10:23 AM on October 28, 2020 [11 favorites]
(I got 68%)
Editorialization: to do “modestly well”, you need to be at least 80% correct on the data. If people are doing worse than that, their classifier is better than my terrible results, but is still dang arbitrary.
posted by Going To Maine at 10:33 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Editorialization: to do “modestly well”, you need to be at least 80% correct on the data. If people are doing worse than that, their classifier is better than my terrible results, but is still dang arbitrary.
posted by Going To Maine at 10:33 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Basically, only caution live frogs is good at this so far.
posted by Going To Maine at 10:33 AM on October 28, 2020
posted by Going To Maine at 10:33 AM on October 28, 2020
Iris Gambol: "I am sorry. I don’t want to editorialize. But this is NUTS. You’re the @nytimes. Have some respect for yourself."
The New York Times. [Warning: may contain nuts.]
posted by chavenet at 10:34 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
The New York Times. [Warning: may contain nuts.]
posted by chavenet at 10:34 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Trump supporters over-index on Ken's salad dressing and Pace picante sauce
Not a surprising result except against imagined stereotypes since salsa overtook ketchup as America's top-selling condiment (by $) in 1992.
posted by little onion at 10:36 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
Not a surprising result except against imagined stereotypes since salsa overtook ketchup as America's top-selling condiment (by $) in 1992.
posted by little onion at 10:36 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
Yeah my 68% was a fluke, I was guessing blindly every time. I think perhaps the only time I didn't guess was when the fridge had almond milk and a clearly visible box of vegan something-or-other in it. That was kind of my point: I think we CAN predict a real person's political inclinations in 2020 America to a statistically significant extent by looking at their eating habits! But this quiz was rigged to hide ethnic and gender differences in food choices (which to me would be the salient signifiers). Obviously this turns the guessing game into a total crapshoot.
posted by MiraK at 10:40 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by MiraK at 10:40 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
My fridge is like a parody of a Biden fridge. I have fancy cheese and oat milk and grainy mustard and tahini. My desk, on the other hand, could definitely pass for a Trump desk. I've got a cute to-do pad and a mason jar filled with colorful pens and a little cart with various craft supplies. It looks like the desk of someone who might regularly instagram pages from her gratitude journal so she could get likes from the gals in her Bible study group. Hashtag blessed! I'm just going to run with it.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 10:46 AM on October 28, 2020
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 10:46 AM on October 28, 2020
For anyone questioning why the NYT chose to publish this, of all things, a week out from election day: I imagine it's because they thought it would make people clickclickclick or taptaptap on their web site, and then talk about it. /shrug
posted by emelenjr at 10:48 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
posted by emelenjr at 10:48 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
Not to spoil the fun here, but I can't help but feel it's ridiculous for the paper of record to be running something so trivial so close to the most important election in our lifetimes.
Today's issue also has an interview with Grimes, pumpkin bread recipes and a crossword puzzle, of all things. How dare they?
posted by Mothlight at 10:51 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
Today's issue also has an interview with Grimes, pumpkin bread recipes and a crossword puzzle, of all things. How dare they?
posted by Mothlight at 10:51 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
No, this is probably what the NYT calls a news-adjacent amusement. It's not like they're sending fewer reporters to Afghanistan so they can run this quiz.
In fact, it's high engagement, low cost content like this that lets them send more reporters to Afghanistan to breathlessly defend the American foreign policy consensus.
posted by Ouverture at 10:57 AM on October 28, 2020 [9 favorites]
In fact, it's high engagement, low cost content like this that lets them send more reporters to Afghanistan to breathlessly defend the American foreign policy consensus.
posted by Ouverture at 10:57 AM on October 28, 2020 [9 favorites]
I've got absolutely nothing against drinking milk or people who do so.
I do! It comes out of cow teats that are kept permanently lactating for this explicit reason! WTF, pervs.
posted by aspersioncast at 10:59 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
I do! It comes out of cow teats that are kept permanently lactating for this explicit reason! WTF, pervs.
posted by aspersioncast at 10:59 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
“Who Goes Nestea?"
Nestea Woman.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 11:03 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Nestea Woman.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 11:03 AM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Yeah, I felt judgy and superior doing that but when I looked in my own fridge I thought my own fridge looked kinda nasty and filled with stuff I'm sure others would not want to eat.
posted by waving at 11:23 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by waving at 11:23 AM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Surely this.
posted by Harry Caul at 11:31 AM on October 28, 2020
posted by Harry Caul at 11:31 AM on October 28, 2020
UGH. I think the hyper-organized fridges waving just posted, with everything neatly organized in matching containers, freaks me out more than a normal messy fridge.
posted by fimbulvetr at 11:41 AM on October 28, 2020
posted by fimbulvetr at 11:41 AM on October 28, 2020
[SLIDESHOW] 14 Refrigerators that Look Like the Refrigerators Of Your Political Enemies
posted by tonycpsu at 11:50 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
posted by tonycpsu at 11:50 AM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
Remember the good ol' days when we used to be judged by our bookshelves? I miss that.
posted by Wylie Kyoto at 11:51 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
posted by Wylie Kyoto at 11:51 AM on October 28, 2020 [7 favorites]
I was honestly expecting this to be a College Humor post or something, is this really what NYT calls journalism?
What's frivolous about getting people to question their assumptions about their fellow citizens?
posted by ultraviolet catastrophe at 11:52 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
What's frivolous about getting people to question their assumptions about their fellow citizens?
posted by ultraviolet catastrophe at 11:52 AM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
I haven't cracked the code completely, but one thing's for sure: Preshredded cheese, esp "parmesan cheese" in a can, almost always equals Trump.
posted by HotToddy at 12:21 PM on October 28, 2020
posted by HotToddy at 12:21 PM on October 28, 2020
70% after about 30 fridges. I was at 88% early on. It has something to do with short term vs. long term nutrition and a bit to do with organization. There is a parallel with short term vs. long term political views on the environment, health care, race relations, jobs. An idealist is just a pragmatist with better vision.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 12:31 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 12:31 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
If you all could see my fridge right now (and you *could*, but I'm not going to show you), I'm pretty certain everyone would be convinced that I'm voting for Pazuzu as a write-in candidate.
I really need to clean my fridge tomorrow.
posted by taz at 12:41 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I really need to clean my fridge tomorrow.
posted by taz at 12:41 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Preshredded cheese, esp "parmesan cheese" in a can, almost always equals Trump.
Make America grate again.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 12:44 PM on October 28, 2020 [13 favorites]
Make America grate again.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 12:44 PM on October 28, 2020 [13 favorites]
But I really like my shiny green can of Parmesan cheese! I always say (in jest, while shaking it vigorously over my serving of pasta) that you've got to lay down a good quarter-inch. And I'm a Leftist.
posted by Rash at 1:09 PM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
posted by Rash at 1:09 PM on October 28, 2020 [6 favorites]
it's NYT and I've used up all my visits for the month.
But it seems pretty easy to me. I imagine the Trump ones would be the ones with human flesh.
posted by philip-random at 1:11 PM on October 28, 2020
But it seems pretty easy to me. I imagine the Trump ones would be the ones with human flesh.
posted by philip-random at 1:11 PM on October 28, 2020
Betteridge's law of headlines remains undefeated.
There's nothing to necessarily signify a "Biden" or "Trump" fridge.
No, fresh produce ain't it, as the survey demonstrates.
If anything, this quiz simply uncovers absurd, class-based, stereotypes some hold.
posted by Ahmad Khani at 1:13 PM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
There's nothing to necessarily signify a "Biden" or "Trump" fridge.
No, fresh produce ain't it, as the survey demonstrates.
If anything, this quiz simply uncovers absurd, class-based, stereotypes some hold.
posted by Ahmad Khani at 1:13 PM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
Counterpoint: Far far left winger here. It took me a long time to get over my eating disorder and allowing “shaker cheese” in the house and it brings me a little joy to see it in the fridge now as proof that I stopped associating the food I ate with my self worth and admitted that not everything I ate has to be artisanal and expensive to be fairly tasty.
That being said wow some of these fridges shocked me. I got almost entirely wrong answers but the ones I got right were guessing that the really disgustingly dirty fridges as being Trump supporters because I assumed they belonged to men. As a woman socialized to think of lots of external stuff as reflecting on my value to society (see above), I don’t think I could ever show a dirty fridge, anonymous or not. I would absolutely have to clean and pretend my fridge is much better organized and cleaner than it usually is before I submitted a picture of it to the NYT.
I do this even when company comes over that might look into our fridge at some point. (Which is why no one being allowed into our house for the past 7 months has been a big relief.)
posted by the thorn bushes have roses at 1:15 PM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
That being said wow some of these fridges shocked me. I got almost entirely wrong answers but the ones I got right were guessing that the really disgustingly dirty fridges as being Trump supporters because I assumed they belonged to men. As a woman socialized to think of lots of external stuff as reflecting on my value to society (see above), I don’t think I could ever show a dirty fridge, anonymous or not. I would absolutely have to clean and pretend my fridge is much better organized and cleaner than it usually is before I submitted a picture of it to the NYT.
I do this even when company comes over that might look into our fridge at some point. (Which is why no one being allowed into our house for the past 7 months has been a big relief.)
posted by the thorn bushes have roses at 1:15 PM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
Well, there’s hummus, so it is a person who enjoys ethnic food, and appreciates other cultures, so it is clearly a Biden fridge. But! There is Kraft grated “parmesan” cheese, so this family has no problem with industrial foods, so clearly it must be a Trump fridge. But the Brita pitcher means they must be an environmentalist avoiding single use plastic, so clearly it must be a Biden fridge. Oh no! I’m just getting started....
posted by snofoam at 1:16 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by snofoam at 1:16 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
I was just amazed at how empty every single fridge was. So much space. So few condiments.
But then, I'm an anarchist.
posted by Seamus at 1:17 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
But then, I'm an anarchist.
posted by Seamus at 1:17 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
We're lefties and my wife is not food-adventurous, so I'm fairly certain you'd all mis-vote our fridge with its Ken's Honey Mustard, generic parmesan in a can, one-gallon jugs of milk AND chocolate milk, pack of Velveeta American cheese slices, and a case of Diet Coke taking up an entire shelf.
posted by AzraelBrown at 1:20 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by AzraelBrown at 1:20 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
The Times needs to acknowledge its debt to r/fridgedetective
posted by Morpeth at 1:24 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by Morpeth at 1:24 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
The only thing I learned from this is that American voters all have dirty refrigerators.
posted by k8lin at 1:30 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by k8lin at 1:30 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
If anything, this quiz simply uncovers absurd, class-based, stereotypes some hold.
Right? I wish I could live in a world where racists don't enjoy the food of people of color. It would be a decent karmic punishment for their prejudice.
Relevant article from one of my favorite food writers:
Right? I wish I could live in a world where racists don't enjoy the food of people of color. It would be a decent karmic punishment for their prejudice.
Relevant article from one of my favorite food writers:
A couple of years ago, I put four white supremacists in prison. They had made the mistake of going into the Slater Slums of Huntington Beach, California, the city's traditional barrio, to kill a random Mexican. They got as far as stabbing a man before the Slater Slums smackdown began: The community came out of their apartments and kicked the shit out of the KKKlowns — a beatdown of wonderful, ironic proportions. Not a single Mexican was arrested; the Candy Ass Gang, as we called them, went away for years, convicted on hate crimes.posted by Ouverture at 1:45 PM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
I discovered that the crime was premeditated, announced on a white-power Internet radio show weeks earlier. But I also discovered that the attackers loved Mexican food: A bunch of pictures a source forwarded to me showed the pendejos in various states of devouring burritos and tacos from Del Taco, the Mexican fast-food chain that's known for being better than that Taco Bell mierda.
Race traitors? Hardly. Just following American policy: Hate the Mexican, love the Mexican food, assault the Mexican, get your ass handed to you by Mexicans. This has been America's experience with Mexicans, a cycle of justice that must be remembered when considering what's happening to this country right now in the wake of SB 1070 and its many copycats. Those politicians, judges, and voters who pass law after law trying to stop Mexicans from asserting themselves in this country, are like King Canute commanding the tide to stop: The game is already over. We beat you with our Mexican food long ago, and we're going to beat you on SB 1070, as well.
I wish I could find it, but the NYTimes had a story where a journalist followed a neo-Nazi couple around to their grocery store, so that we could get some insight into their ice cream preferences.
Maybe the editor had to dial down the original idea, but this article seems like a natural progression.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 1:51 PM on October 28, 2020
Maybe the editor had to dial down the original idea, but this article seems like a natural progression.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 1:51 PM on October 28, 2020
More brilliant political analysis from the newspaper that recently explained how winning is actually losing if you really think about it
posted by indubitable at 1:54 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by indubitable at 1:54 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Hey man, no judgement on the parmesan in a can. I'm just saying that every time I saw one, I guessed Trump, and I was right.
posted by HotToddy at 1:55 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by HotToddy at 1:55 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Between the post on "pastel Q" and the one on cherry-picking data on schools and COVID, I doubt it would be easy to get a useful dataset and I really really doubt the NYT has bothered to try. No clicks from me.
Maybe I’ll tidy my fridge instead.
posted by clew at 2:25 PM on October 28, 2020
Maybe I’ll tidy my fridge instead.
posted by clew at 2:25 PM on October 28, 2020
> Relevant article from one of my favorite food writers:
That link, uh, really doesn't work. Was it this one?
posted by ardgedee at 2:26 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
That link, uh, really doesn't work. Was it this one?
posted by ardgedee at 2:26 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
So does this mean I can order Papa John's again without anyone assuming I'm a white supremacist?
posted by pwnguin at 2:33 PM on October 28, 2020
posted by pwnguin at 2:33 PM on October 28, 2020
Are these typical American fridge contents, or did the owners make them "presentable" before the photos, like you'd tidy your house before guests come over?
I was surprised at how little they had in them, on average.
Doesn't everybody in the world have *that* shelf full of "should I eat this?" curry pastes, preserves and condiments?
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:35 PM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
I was surprised at how little they had in them, on average.
Doesn't everybody in the world have *that* shelf full of "should I eat this?" curry pastes, preserves and condiments?
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:35 PM on October 28, 2020 [4 favorites]
> Doesn't everybody in the world have *that* shelf full of "should I eat this?" curry pastes, preserves and condiments?
Presumably the decision making calculus has shifted towards "just throw it out" ever since the pandemic made hospitals a coin toss.
posted by pwnguin at 2:37 PM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
Presumably the decision making calculus has shifted towards "just throw it out" ever since the pandemic made hospitals a coin toss.
posted by pwnguin at 2:37 PM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
A bunch of pictures a source forwarded to me showed the pendejos in various states of devouring burritos and tacos from Del Taco, the Mexican fast-food chain that's known for being better than that Taco Bell mierda
Eh? Taco Bell and Del Taco serve the exact same Mexican food, except Del Taco also has hamburgers, and Taco Bell was founded one city over in Irvine CA (one city over from Huntington Beach, where 'Slater Slums' is).
posted by The_Vegetables at 2:52 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Eh? Taco Bell and Del Taco serve the exact same Mexican food, except Del Taco also has hamburgers, and Taco Bell was founded one city over in Irvine CA (one city over from Huntington Beach, where 'Slater Slums' is).
posted by The_Vegetables at 2:52 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Are these typical American fridge contents, or did the owners make them "presentable" before the photos, like you'd tidy your house before guests come over?
Maybe it's just me, but I was wondering where all the alcohol and hot sauces had gotten to.
posted by mollweide at 2:57 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Maybe it's just me, but I was wondering where all the alcohol and hot sauces had gotten to.
posted by mollweide at 2:57 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
pretty sure everyone is out of both by now.
posted by Going To Maine at 3:08 PM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by Going To Maine at 3:08 PM on October 28, 2020 [3 favorites]
Good grief I forgot how massive American fridges were.
posted by iamkimiam at 3:38 PM on October 28, 2020
posted by iamkimiam at 3:38 PM on October 28, 2020
Is This The Year Of The Shy Trump Fridge?
posted by clawsoon at 3:42 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by clawsoon at 3:42 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
"Is your fridge too Trump? Fridge shaming and what you can do!"
posted by geoff. at 3:59 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by geoff. at 3:59 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Our fridge has eggs, organic milk, cheddar, beer, yellow mustard, pickles, Gatorade, bottled water, and salsa. We both voted for Biden.
Hilarious that this is posted the same day as the other NYT FPP. Dean Baquet, please resign.
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 4:38 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Hilarious that this is posted the same day as the other NYT FPP. Dean Baquet, please resign.
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 4:38 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
Also back to the Ashley Feinberg"What exactly am I looking at here" tweet, I am pretty sure that's half of a papaya. And I totally do that with fruit/veggies that I've only used up partially. Cut side down on a flat plate or lid. In fridge.
posted by spamandkimchi at 4:45 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by spamandkimchi at 4:45 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
I got my first seven right and was like MAYBE I'M A SECRET FRIDGE GENIUS but ended up closer to 65% after a few more. But one of the Trump "fridges" I got was a weird dark hole with a few pans in it?? Did anyone else see that one?
posted by potrzebie at 5:44 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by potrzebie at 5:44 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
But one of the Trump "fridges" I got was a weird dark hole with a few pans in it?? Did anyone else see that one?
Yes! There were a few like that, where it was like a refrigerated chute with a few things at the bottom. Is that some sort of fridge/freezer style that I've never seen?
posted by geegollygosh at 6:11 PM on October 28, 2020
Yes! There were a few like that, where it was like a refrigerated chute with a few things at the bottom. Is that some sort of fridge/freezer style that I've never seen?
posted by geegollygosh at 6:11 PM on October 28, 2020
An underrated perk of being a New York Times reporter is you get to just call Justin McElroy and chat about refrigerators whenever you want, apparently
I suspect that Justin McElroy would make time for anyone to chat to him for a few minutes about a mundane subject that is an unusual conversation topic
posted by Merus at 6:48 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I suspect that Justin McElroy would make time for anyone to chat to him for a few minutes about a mundane subject that is an unusual conversation topic
posted by Merus at 6:48 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Next Metafilter Fundraiser? - correctly guess the fridge of each mod. $10 donation a guess and the reward is a signed condiment of your choice from the mod of your choice.
posted by inflatablekiwi at 7:06 PM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by inflatablekiwi at 7:06 PM on October 28, 2020 [5 favorites]
Ug. Single serving sized, single use bottled water in a pallet. Trump all the fricken way.
And why the hell are so many Biden supporters drinking almond milk? I mean yeah factory dairies are bad and some people are lactose intolerant, but it’s hard to get more evil than the almond industry.
If you get your doctor to prescribe the right hormones you can save the environment and make your own. Mmm. Artisanal.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 7:39 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
And why the hell are so many Biden supporters drinking almond milk? I mean yeah factory dairies are bad and some people are lactose intolerant, but it’s hard to get more evil than the almond industry.
If you get your doctor to prescribe the right hormones you can save the environment and make your own. Mmm. Artisanal.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 7:39 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
I think the “fridge chute” is an overhead shot of a chest freezer/fridge
I prefer “fridge chute” honestly
posted by floweredfish at 7:48 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
I prefer “fridge chute” honestly
posted by floweredfish at 7:48 PM on October 28, 2020 [2 favorites]
I hovered around 66% untill the last couple questions where I was getting tired of it and I got sloppy. So I ended having guessed 54 refrigerators getting 34 correct for 61%.
posted by WalkerWestridge at 9:48 PM on October 28, 2020
posted by WalkerWestridge at 9:48 PM on October 28, 2020
Also, yuck, there were some really grim fridges in there (on both sides).
posted by WalkerWestridge at 9:51 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by WalkerWestridge at 9:51 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
I confess that I use about 2 gallons a week of organic unpasteurized full fat milk, but I balance it out with serious Diet Coke consumption. My refrigerator looks like a dairy case, mostly milk, cheese, and eggs with a lots of kinds of apples. An yes, a door full of condiments of indeterminate age. I am a Bernie/Elizabeth Warren lefty, in other words, a Biden voter. I sucked at guessing.
posted by a humble nudibranch at 10:02 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by a humble nudibranch at 10:02 PM on October 28, 2020 [1 favorite]
Wow. It's rare to see so much judgement in one thread. I'm actually disappointed in Mefi folk today.
Ug. Single serving sized, single use bottled water in a pallet. Trump all the fricken way.
I voted Biden. I do all the grocery shopping for my 85-year-old mother, and I keep her fridge stocked with single use water bottles because this is the only way she will drink enough water to not be dehydrated. Her well water tastes terrible and she cannot lift the larger containers of water. Thanks for judging my elderly mother, way to go. You're really a warrior for the environment, bro.
Pregrated parm is all that's available in many areas of the country. If you find yourself judging on that, might want to take time instead to take stock of all the choices and privilege you have in your life.
I know you all know about food deserts and wouldn't necessarily judge someone for not having fresh fruit and veg in their fridge. Right? Right?? RIGHT? I'm certain there are some Biden supporters, many of whom are POC, who don't have access to the organic broccoli and artisanal parmesan wheels that some of you demand for moral purity.
Our household puts plates of leftovers directly in the fridge sometimes. Why bother boxing up a small amount that you're going to eat later that day anyway?
posted by Flock of Cynthiabirds at 5:28 AM on October 29, 2020 [7 favorites]
Ug. Single serving sized, single use bottled water in a pallet. Trump all the fricken way.
I voted Biden. I do all the grocery shopping for my 85-year-old mother, and I keep her fridge stocked with single use water bottles because this is the only way she will drink enough water to not be dehydrated. Her well water tastes terrible and she cannot lift the larger containers of water. Thanks for judging my elderly mother, way to go. You're really a warrior for the environment, bro.
Pregrated parm is all that's available in many areas of the country. If you find yourself judging on that, might want to take time instead to take stock of all the choices and privilege you have in your life.
I know you all know about food deserts and wouldn't necessarily judge someone for not having fresh fruit and veg in their fridge. Right? Right?? RIGHT? I'm certain there are some Biden supporters, many of whom are POC, who don't have access to the organic broccoli and artisanal parmesan wheels that some of you demand for moral purity.
Our household puts plates of leftovers directly in the fridge sometimes. Why bother boxing up a small amount that you're going to eat later that day anyway?
posted by Flock of Cynthiabirds at 5:28 AM on October 29, 2020 [7 favorites]
I got a couple of "fridge chute" pictures too, though they were both Biden. It's just a chest freezer plugged into a thermostat. I used to have one as my refrigerator... they're cheap and insanely efficient. I went from an 80's fridge using about 150 kWh a month to that thing using less than 8. They don't get rid of the condensation for you, there's no freezer built in, and the top loading is really annoying, so I eventually got a normal fridge.
posted by netowl at 12:44 PM on October 29, 2020
posted by netowl at 12:44 PM on October 29, 2020
Flock of Cynthiabirds: Pregrated parm is all that's available in many areas of the country. If you find yourself judging on that, might want to take time instead to take stock of all the choices and privilege you have in your life.
Sometimes Democrats proudly walk right into the "snobby elites who look down on little people" stereotype that Republicans have painted of them.
posted by clawsoon at 1:57 PM on October 29, 2020 [4 favorites]
Sometimes Democrats proudly walk right into the "snobby elites who look down on little people" stereotype that Republicans have painted of them.
posted by clawsoon at 1:57 PM on October 29, 2020 [4 favorites]
Stereotypes are the whole point of the game, right? We all took a stab at applying various preconceptions (non-dairy milk = Biden, etc.) and most of them turned out not to be all that accurate. I'm the one who made the preshredded/cheese-in-a-can correlation. As it happens, I have a bag of preshredded cheese in my refrigerator at this very moment. But I played the game as intended and found a correlation within my sample. I did not intend to insult myself or anyone else by reporting my finding.
posted by HotToddy at 2:54 PM on October 29, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by HotToddy at 2:54 PM on October 29, 2020 [1 favorite]
Stereotypes are the whole point of the game, right? [...] But I played the game as intended and found a correlation within my sample. I did not intend to insult myself or anyone else by reporting my finding.
I think what people are suggesting is that the act of turning these stereotypes into a game is itself the insulting part.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 4:29 PM on October 29, 2020 [1 favorite]
I think what people are suggesting is that the act of turning these stereotypes into a game is itself the insulting part.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 4:29 PM on October 29, 2020 [1 favorite]
I think what people are suggesting is that the act of turning these stereotypes into a game is itself the insulting part.
I thought the point of the game was to show us that our stereotypes are not a good way to tell anything about another person. But everyone's takeaways are different of course...
posted by WalkerWestridge at 4:32 PM on October 29, 2020
I thought the point of the game was to show us that our stereotypes are not a good way to tell anything about another person. But everyone's takeaways are different of course...
posted by WalkerWestridge at 4:32 PM on October 29, 2020
I thought the point of the game was to show us that our stereotypes are not a good way to tell anything about another person.
And yet we have at least one person who's said that they did use the stereotypes to "win" the game.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 7:15 PM on October 29, 2020
And yet we have at least one person who's said that they did use the stereotypes to "win" the game.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 7:15 PM on October 29, 2020
Indeed. Like I said, everyone's takeaways are different.
posted by WalkerWestridge at 9:16 PM on October 29, 2020
posted by WalkerWestridge at 9:16 PM on October 29, 2020
there were some really grim fridges in there (on both sides).
That's a great pseudonym. Now I'm imagining browsing an airport paperback rack in 2022 and thumbing through a copy of Some Very Good People by Grim Fridges.
posted by flabdablet at 9:33 PM on October 29, 2020 [3 favorites]
That's a great pseudonym. Now I'm imagining browsing an airport paperback rack in 2022 and thumbing through a copy of Some Very Good People by Grim Fridges.
posted by flabdablet at 9:33 PM on October 29, 2020 [3 favorites]
everyone's takeaways are different.
We refrigerate the leftovers of ours in the packaging they came in.
posted by flabdablet at 9:34 PM on October 29, 2020 [3 favorites]
We refrigerate the leftovers of ours in the packaging they came in.
posted by flabdablet at 9:34 PM on October 29, 2020 [3 favorites]
I once kept my recently deceased cat in the fridge, albeit briefly, as I attempted to contact anyone in my extended circle who was capable at basic taxidermy. That cat's name? Grim.
(It wasn't a voting year, I no longer have any furry friends among my eggs and rice milk, and I keep pre grated Parm Regg because it hurts my wrists to grate it over my gluten free pasta which gets all manky if you keep it chilled leftover)
posted by Grim Fridge at 11:33 PM on October 29, 2020 [6 favorites]
(It wasn't a voting year, I no longer have any furry friends among my eggs and rice milk, and I keep pre grated Parm Regg because it hurts my wrists to grate it over my gluten free pasta which gets all manky if you keep it chilled leftover)
posted by Grim Fridge at 11:33 PM on October 29, 2020 [6 favorites]
My Dad (a prof ssional wildlife photographer) used to keep roadkill he scooped off the asphalt to feed his subjects, in our freezer. Believe me, I've seen some Grim Fridges in my day!
posted by WalkerWestridge at 11:51 AM on October 30, 2020
posted by WalkerWestridge at 11:51 AM on October 30, 2020
I just thought it was a fun quiz.
Nothing on Metafilter is just a fun quiz.
Now I want to see Biden and Trump's own fridges.
posted by clawsoon at 11:53 AM on October 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
Nothing on Metafilter is just a fun quiz.
Now I want to see Biden and Trump's own fridges.
posted by clawsoon at 11:53 AM on October 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
Trump has never had an "own fridge" in the sense normal people have one, and he has never known what was in the fridges in his household. And that sort of says it all. (Now where is that clip from The West Wing...)
posted by mumimor at 4:10 PM on October 30, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by mumimor at 4:10 PM on October 30, 2020 [1 favorite]
A close friend used to work in a fetish leather shop. One of her co-workers was a porn star who made extra cash by selling his poop to fans. He'd leave them in bags in the company fridge before taking them home. (One day the old guy who used to steal people's food accidentally microwaved one of them. The story comes up a lot.) I'm pretty sure they're all voting Biden. So, that's a pretty clear tell, if, unlike the food thief, you can recognize it.
I grew up with rattlesnakes in Ziplock brand bags the freezer. I suspect, at the time, it would have been a Trump household. It isn't any longer.
posted by eotvos at 7:25 PM on October 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
I grew up with rattlesnakes in Ziplock brand bags the freezer. I suspect, at the time, it would have been a Trump household. It isn't any longer.
posted by eotvos at 7:25 PM on October 30, 2020 [2 favorites]
I think a game of "Why does this person have poop in their fridge?" would be far more fun that this quiz.
Yeah, on the surface it seems like a bit of fun, but there are some really awful classist and fatphobic implications behind it.
Also, did none of the people have kids? Kids can't vote, but have a say in what food is eaten.
posted by daybeforetheday at 7:45 PM on October 30, 2020
Yeah, on the surface it seems like a bit of fun, but there are some really awful classist and fatphobic implications behind it.
Also, did none of the people have kids? Kids can't vote, but have a say in what food is eaten.
posted by daybeforetheday at 7:45 PM on October 30, 2020
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