I drink until I feel like I’m going to throw up water.
December 13, 2020 9:27 PM   Subscribe

How John Foley, Peloton Co-Founder, Spends His Sundays

How other New Yorkers spend their Sunday:
John Mulaney hides sour patch kids from his wife.
Kate Pierson goes mushroom hunting.
Deepak Chopra drinks a lot of coffee before noon.
posted by Toddles (55 comments total) 12 users marked this as a favorite
 
See also: Vanessa Bayer. "I order food from my couch and I don’t leave my couch again until it comes."
posted by How the runs scored at 9:37 PM on December 13, 2020 [13 favorites]


I also often drink until I feel like I'm going to throw up.

Wait, what were we talking about? :P
posted by hippybear at 9:55 PM on December 13, 2020 [25 favorites]


That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

Beautiful alliteration in "personally peddling Pelotons"

Wondering what's in the pipes in the upstairs bathroom sink. If he's on vacation, does he bring upstairs bathroom sink water with him? I wouldn't be surprised.

Not just Dunkin' Donuts french vanilla coffee, weak Dunkin' Donuts french vanilla coffee.

Singing "Old Man River" to his son every night? That poor kid.
posted by mogget at 9:58 PM on December 13, 2020 [4 favorites]


Why the hell don't you have a cup in the bathroom instead of using your dirty ass hand to slurp water like an ape?

Nice covid pod, only 100-200 contacts.
posted by benzenedream at 10:46 PM on December 13, 2020 [8 favorites]




My dad used to sing me Old Man River before bed. As far as I was concerned, it was 1. Funny to hear my dad try to sing with such a low voice and 2. A long song, so I could stay up later. It wasn't as good as "Shine on Harvest Moon" which was sung through twice so it was EVEN LONGER, or "Down by the Bay" which I could usually prolong by thinking of more rhyming things, but I liked it and would ask him to sing it for me. My brother used to fall asleep to The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, and I think we're both doing more or less OK now! Kids, like Peleton founders apparently, are weirdos.
posted by ChuraChura at 4:43 AM on December 14, 2020 [6 favorites]


Can we not.
posted by MartinWisse at 5:02 AM on December 14, 2020 [4 favorites]


My cat only paw drinks if the water has a contaminant in it. Usually one her goddamn hairs. As soon as I clean and refill the bowl no paw drinking. So what I am saying is maybe the CEO should clean his sink every day if he is going to drink out of it.
posted by srboisvert at 5:11 AM on December 14, 2020 [1 favorite]


If he watched this he'd throw up within 30 seconds.
posted by Cardinal Fang at 5:13 AM on December 14, 2020


I feel like I need to push back on this weird idea of "hydration". This guy is obviously ludicrous, with his efficient hydration, but the idea that you should drink more water than you feel thirsty for has gotten so entrenched in modern society with absolutely zero evidence that this is a good thing. This seems to have originated with the 8 glasses of water a day myth:
Where does the 8-glasses guideline come from?
In 1945, the U.S. Food and Nutrition Board recommended that people drink 2.5
liters (84.5 ounces) a day. Evidently, most who read this then ignored the
following sentence, “Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods.”
Whatever “prepared” meant in 1945, all food contains water, especially
vegetables and fruits.

Forcing yourself to drink water when you don't feel thirsty is unnecessary:
One of the most common reasons a woman comes to the urogynecology practice is urinary frequency — going to the bathroom more than what she considers normal or common.

Sometimes this means in comparison to friends and relatives, and, sometimes, it relates to what was previously normal for her.

When we talk more, often the urinary frequency coincides with a change in a woman’s drinking habits — and the most common one is increasing her water intake. There is a popular and deeply held myth that we should all be drinking more water for more health benefits. There are a growing number of smartphone apps that track water intake during the day and provide automatic reminders to those falling behind. Many of these women feel guilty for not drinking “enough.”

What do we tell patients in this case?

Stop drinking eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day.

posted by peacheater at 6:29 AM on December 14, 2020 [33 favorites]


Twenty years ago a colleague told me the key to your day is to hydrate at much as you can

At least the colleague didn't mention that the water should come out of the toilet.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 6:34 AM on December 14, 2020


Looks cool - wish it wasn't paywalled.
posted by tiny frying pan at 6:43 AM on December 14, 2020 [2 favorites]


These what-does-so-and-so-do-on-sunday profiles are so strange. My wife (who runs a minor cultural thing in NYC) got one, and they ran a photo of us pretending to play a card game while our dog made googly-eyes at the photographer from under the table. She got it because the cultural thing employs a publicist.

It's like 95% publicity for some random person, 5% lifestyle tips.
posted by anhedonic at 6:48 AM on December 14, 2020 [6 favorites]


Pfft, that’s nothing. I drink until I feel like water‘s going to throw up me!

No but seriously I think the part of his water ritual that I side eye the most is probably the most mundane part: he does this because a colleague once told him drinking a lot of water is good for you. He’s lucky the colleague didn’t tell him something else is good for you, like drinking shampoo until you feel like you’re going to throw up shampoo, or drinking latex house paint until you feel like you’re going to throw up latex house paint.
posted by aubilenon at 6:53 AM on December 14, 2020 [14 favorites]


I guess that this is interesting mostly for the schadenfreude. It's not just the drinking out of his hand or his weak-ass coffee, but the framing, which notes that he'd put out that ridiculous commercial and basically had his business saved by the pandemic. And now they're building a big HQ uptown--should be done, oh, around the time that the fitness centers re-open. Great timing, dude.
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:55 AM on December 14, 2020 [6 favorites]


Singing "Old Man River" to his son every night? That poor kid.

Mom used to sing us to sleep with “Pore Jud is Daid” from Oklahoma!

Sometimes she’d wake us up with a verse of “Hello, Dolly!” and do the Louis Armstrong voice.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 7:28 AM on December 14, 2020 [13 favorites]


Ford: .... it's unpleasantly like being drunk.
Arthur: What's so unpleasant about being drunk?
Ford: You ask a glass of water!
posted by runincircles at 8:22 AM on December 14, 2020 [15 favorites]


Singing "Old Man River" to his son every night? That poor kid.

My Dad (and his Dad) also used to sing this to me when I was I kid. Aged 6 we were asked to stand up in class and recite a nursery rhyme, I sang Old Man River.

I do however, have a very clear memory around the same time of being unable to sleep and my Mum coming in to ask me why and I told her "I was tired of living, but scared of dying".

My six-year-old self sure did tote a lot of barges...
posted by jontyjago at 8:29 AM on December 14, 2020 [24 favorites]


In high school our psych class had a field trip to the asylum. It was really interesting! We were on a specific wing filled with water-holics. They would drink and drink and drink until their cells exploded, it would produce an effect like being drunk. They were all lined up at the water fountain.
posted by Meatbomb at 8:31 AM on December 14, 2020 [2 favorites]


It's not just the drinking out of his hand or his weak-ass coffee, but the framing, which notes that he'd put out that ridiculous commercial and basically had his business saved by the pandemic.

Saved? The stock has tripled since the commercial come out, and has taken off like a rocket since they shipped the next generation of their equipment in September. Apple coming into the market (Fitnesss+ starts today, check it out!) has even seemed to made things much for them.
posted by sideshow at 8:44 AM on December 14, 2020


And now they're building a big HQ uptown--should be done, oh, around the time that the fitness centers re-open. Great timing, dude.

Also, just like movie theaters, the world has almost certainly moved on from in-person fitness. Yeah, some will still go, but not enough to keep lights on of the majority of establishments.
posted by sideshow at 8:46 AM on December 14, 2020


This dude seems like a real confused person, but I also had a buddy who worked for Peloton and evangelized for them. My friend is smart and adorable and funny and now he's a high-end personal trainer. Peloton was utterly AWFUL to him, but he stayed devoted way past it being good for him. It was like watching a friend get out of a cult. Peloton is not a place of honor. Their bathrooms were unnecessarily nice, though, so that was a treat the couple times I met him at work.
posted by lauranesson at 8:54 AM on December 14, 2020 [2 favorites]


The guy has OCD. Adjusts the lights several times a day with all his dimmers, sips exactly 40 sips a day from his sink, etc.

Don't want to be the Peleton guy wearing Peleton? Who else should wear it? Even weirder to be the average Joe wearing Peleton while my fat ass sticks out.
posted by AugustWest at 9:05 AM on December 14, 2020 [2 favorites]


It's like 95% publicity for some random person, 5% lifestyle tips.

Things must be projected to be dire after Apple Fitness+ launches, if the CEO of Peloton is on the hunt for a new job.
posted by pwnguin at 9:41 AM on December 14, 2020


Oh, he sounds insufferable. The dimmer thing would drive me up the wall.
posted by gaspode at 10:00 AM on December 14, 2020 [1 favorite]


Agree, he is probably overdoing the hydration thing. Also, I don't understand the appeal of Peloton - people should be getting outside to exercise.
posted by hrpomrx at 10:23 AM on December 14, 2020


I went through a period when I was a kid in which I’d get most of my water drinking straight out of the faucet in the bathroom. Not everyone is a big fan of this.

I also have a preferred bathroom faucet for water at home but I put it in a glass. The kitchen sink hasn’t been broken in, I guess. Has a weird plastic taste.
posted by atoxyl at 10:26 AM on December 14, 2020


I can't think of "Old Man River" without immediately thinking of the Stan Freberg version that I heard on the KSFO comedy hour as a kid.
posted by mogget at 10:53 AM on December 14, 2020




Fool. It's more efficient to skip the sink drink and just combine it with the coffee. (There's water in coffee. Did you know that?)

Which is why I find myself every morning hunched over the Keurig lapping up 40 handfuls of Dunkin Donuts coffee, desperately trying to get it all into my mouth before it runs all over the counter... it burns, but in a GOOD way? I guess?
posted by caution live frogs at 11:37 AM on December 14, 2020 [10 favorites]


I don't understand the appeal of Peloton

Well I guess it's the online class content. Either that or the feeling of having a Lulumon store in bike form.
posted by thelonius at 11:41 AM on December 14, 2020 [2 favorites]


> Also, I don't understand the appeal of Peloton - people should be getting outside to exercise.

I don't own a Peloton and only ride my bike outside but a big advantage of such indoor bikes is that drivers can't murder you consequence free while riding one.
posted by threementholsandafuneral at 11:53 AM on December 14, 2020 [37 favorites]


I'm also sure that weather, especially during winter, plays a role.

(Not me, I'm just lazy)
posted by meowzilla at 12:02 PM on December 14, 2020 [9 favorites]


I was gonna joke about how old man river keeps on spinning but I guess I forgot about this part:

You and me
We sweat and strain
Body all aching
And wracked with pain

posted by Standard Orange at 12:58 PM on December 14, 2020 [1 favorite]


Also saves time. I like to jog outside but have to go a ways to get to an area I can jog without dodging bikes and red lights. Can add about 20-30 minutes to my overall workout time. Sometimes easier to hop on the treadmill.
posted by stoneandstar at 1:06 PM on December 14, 2020 [8 favorites]


John Foley’s workouts are not always high-tech. Sometimes he goes old school, buying firewood and lugging it around the West Village”

This would be the prototype for his next machine known as the Lumberjack, a $1,900 piece of exercise equipment that’s just made of inexpensive firewood from the local corner store. Suggested workout attire: jeans and plaid shirts. Celebrity endorsement deals are in the works for Chris Pine and Timber-ton.

Personally, I enjoy using a $120 exercise bike I bought online a few years ago. I can read or listen to podcasts while pedaling, a task not safe when performed outside.

There used to be a physician named Dr. Marc Abrams that would walk hours every day in Southern California while reading newspapers and magazines LA’s walking man . Incidentally it wasn’t a car that killed him, he suffered from serious depression and committed suicide while being investigated for improper opioid prescription practices.

Many people find exercise boring and there’s long been a market to make workouts exciting, or at least make it appear like it there’s the possibility it could be fun. Anyone 30+ can probably remember seeing Bowflex commercials that advertised a workout machine that looked so much cooler than simply doing dull bicep curls or excruciating bench presses. Billy Blanks’s Tae Bo made 80s aerobics cooler for the 90s era by incorporating martial arts movements to hip music without sacrificing the sacred spandex attire.
posted by mundo at 2:38 PM on December 14, 2020 [1 favorite]


and parents who can't go biking and leave their children alone can also use it.
posted by ChuraChura at 2:41 PM on December 14, 2020 [11 favorites]


Seeing a lot of reasons to buy home cardio equipment, generically, here. But why the $1900 bike that comes with a $40/month subscription service? I would imagine you can get a pretty good stationary bike for half that, after all. Maybe it is not really that much more expensive than other equipment in the high-end home gym market, I don't know.
posted by thelonius at 2:57 PM on December 14, 2020 [1 favorite]


I came to post the Defector link. The comments had me laughing so hard I was crying.
posted by medusa at 3:00 PM on December 14, 2020


Also I can say that one of my best pandemic purchases was the flexispot stationary bike desk. Probably not for the hard core cyclist*, but perfect for doing a bit of work or watching a movie while getting some exercise. Currently on sale for $260.

*My phone autocorrected "cyclist" to "fucker." Not sure what that says about me, other than perhaps I am a hard core fucker.
posted by medusa at 3:06 PM on December 14, 2020 [12 favorites]


Okay, this guy is a little odd, Peloton the company is a little odd too, definitely Peloton’s ad agency is odd, but I am a wild-eyed evangelist for their app, $12.99 a month, use it with your cheap janky felt brake exercise bike and get all the fun other classes too. It is wonderful. I didn’t expect to be getting in really great shape in winter, in the middle of a pandemic, while rehabbing from shoulder surgery, but such is the addictive power of the Peloton app. It is a solid product.
posted by HotToddy at 3:11 PM on December 14, 2020 [6 favorites]


Chris Pine, hehe.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 3:20 PM on December 14, 2020


the idea that you should drink more water than you feel thirsty for has gotten so entrenched in modern society with absolutely zero evidence that this is a good thing

lol get back to me after you've had a couple kidney stones
posted by lefty lucky cat at 4:01 PM on December 14, 2020


lol get back to me after you've had a couple kidney stones

Ok, but it didn't seem to do much for the whisky. Am I supposed to freeze them first or something?
posted by loquacious at 4:12 PM on December 14, 2020 [5 favorites]


Hard core cyclists are buying the Kickr Bike ($3500) or Stages SB20 ($2900) if they want a standalone indoor bike, or strapping a $1200 Kickr trainer to their actual bike which costs many multiples of that. The Peloton bike doesn't actually seem that overpriced by comparison, but it's something that you'd have expect to use long after the pandemic is over. If you need something to get you through the next year, the cheapest spin bike you can get shipped and Peloton Digital ($13/mo) will meet your goal, hopefully without falling apart.

Ironically one of the draws of Peloton is that you can go to live classes, quite the opposite of on-demand classes that you can do anytime like Netflix.
posted by meowzilla at 4:45 PM on December 14, 2020 [2 favorites]


People enjoy the instructors, music, and community whether on Peloton or at the spin gym. Peloton does very well at the instructors and the music. It tries to do community but YMMV. It also adds the digital tracking/competition thing.
posted by Wood at 4:59 PM on December 14, 2020 [1 favorite]


Also, just like movie theaters, the world has almost certainly moved on from in-person fitness.

Oh really? And has the world also moved on from renting and apartments? We all got us some big-ass mcmansions with indoor pools now?

Because us rock climbers and swimmers and just regular old broke-ass motherfuckers living in 300 square feet are going back to the in-person fitness.
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 5:27 PM on December 14, 2020 [10 favorites]


also it's 28 goddamn motherfucking degrees out there and the MINUTE I don't have to run four sonofabitching miles in that tit-freezing shitbird weather I AM GONNA STOP DOIN THAT.
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 5:30 PM on December 14, 2020 [3 favorites]


Peloton Marketing Strategy:

2019: Expensive, problematic ad with an actress possessing unique facial expressions.

2020: Just have our incredibly odd CEO talk to the New York Times.
posted by mundo at 7:59 PM on December 14, 2020 [3 favorites]


Hard core cyclists are buying the Kickr Bike ($3500) or Stages SB20 ($2900) if they want a standalone indoor bike, or strapping a $1200 Kickr trainer to their actual bike which costs many multiples of that

Plenty use $100 trainers, and a bike you already own is free, and they can still be used with competitive/social online platforms like Zwift. The Wahoo Kickr is a high-end product.

To my knowledge, very few "hard core cyclists" own dedicated spin bikes.
posted by grahamparks at 2:53 AM on December 15, 2020 [2 favorites]


If you must drink water from the bathroom tap then go get this. My kid saw these in our local MOCA gift shop and begged me to purchase one. She puts it to good use in her bathroom, so money well spent.

I’m also big into light dimmers in all rooms. I would imagine one could get smart bulbs and automate but there’d likely still be some constant fussing to do anyway. I have no idea why people get the daylight LED bulbs for their houses, or even worse, arbitrarily mix the daylight with the warm tone bulbs in one room My neighbor has this stressful setup and I have to avert my eyes 👀 if I accidentally look at their house at night.
posted by waving at 7:13 AM on December 15, 2020 [1 favorite]



If you must drink water from the bathroom tap then go get this.


No get this, a tall-enough tap so that you don't put water in your hand, you just bend down and drink like it's a fountain.
posted by The_Vegetables at 8:46 AM on December 15, 2020


Yes, dimmers in all the rooms! A very sweet romantic gesture was the man I was dating putting his overhead lights on dimmers, unbidden, just to please me. And very pleased I was, too. Overhead lighting is the devil.
posted by HotToddy at 2:08 PM on December 15, 2020


Agree, he is probably overdoing the hydration thing. Also, I don't understand the appeal of Peloton - people should be getting outside to exercise.

Here is what going outside for exercise is like for me now: I get up at 4am so I can run at 5am. To run mostly alone in pre-dawn conditions on lakefront running trails. Normally in the before times, I'd run during the day in the winter so I'd get some sun but my zip code has a population density of 60,000+ sq. mile. That means it can get crowded particularly now when so many people are working from home. By far the majority of runners do not wear masks and do not distance or anything like that. Many quite freely spit, cough and clear snot with a farmer's blow while running.

Pre-dawn running in cold weather means I have to gear up like an astronaut doing an EVA. Merino snood with a nylon snood over it so I can mask up if I cross paths with anyone and so I can exit my apartment building (masks required on elevator and public areas). I need an LED armband so I can be seen from all angles in the dark (both not wanting to get hit by a car or cyclist and a courtesy to let others know I am there so they hopefully will pull their masks up). An LED headband so I can see the trail where the lights are off or where I go off the trail (If I go for a long run I run off the path where it is less crowded but it is pitch dark gravel path or lakefront revetment running). I have layers and layers of running clothes to accommodate winter running conditions. I have different shoes for different weather conditions. Even then I worry I will have a problem on a run (ie GI distress with no bathrooms in range) and have to stop running well away from home in clothing warm enough for running but not warm enough for a long walk.

I do it because I really like it so the ass pain of all the rigmarole is acceptable to me but I can 100% understand why many people prefer the convivence of indoor and at home exercise. Particularly now.
posted by srboisvert at 5:00 AM on December 20, 2020 [3 favorites]


Also, I don't understand the appeal of Peloton - people should be getting outside to exercise.

They’re not mutually exclusive! But the appeal of Peloton is perhaps not apparent until you try it. The instructors are entertaining and motivating and the whole Peloton ecosystem (it’s not just spinning but all kinds of fitness classes) is very cleverly designed to keep you coming back for more. It’s just a whole different thing from outdoor exercise.
posted by HotToddy at 12:34 PM on December 23, 2020 [1 favorite]


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