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September 11, 2021 4:23 PM   Subscribe

Confederate DESTROYS Yankee with FACTS and LOGIC (6:37)

Atun-Shei Films (an invented name) has a particular interest in early American history, especially that of New England and (current home) New Orleans. (The Racist-O-Meter is recycled from Were the Confederate Monuments of New Orleans Racist? (8:25))

The rest of the (currently seven out of a planned ten) Checkmate, Lincolnites! videos can be found here.

His other popular character is the Witchfinder General, an amusing character (e.g., The Witchfinder General Gives Spiritual Advice (14:53)) which seems to have led obliquely into today's release of the very serious In Defense of Puritanism. (1:01:36)
posted by ChurchHatesTucker (14 comments total) 14 users marked this as a favorite
 
And yeah, the Defense of Puritanism was the original lede until I realized Checkmate somehow hasn't been on the Blue.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 4:25 PM on September 11 [1 favorite]


I liked this and learned a lot. Until the shooting part - the piece didn't need that.
posted by bluesky43 at 6:57 PM on September 11 [9 favorites]


Until the shooting part - the piece didn't need that.

I suspect he would agree. The subsequent installments keep it more conversational and his character morphs into a Billy Yank counterpart to Johnny Reb.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 8:35 PM on September 11 [2 favorites]


The difference between 3% and 30% owning slaves. Searching for stats on this, I found this:

https://socialequity.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/8.10.20.pdf
3.22 percent of the population of the 15 slave states were slave owners.
But then they point out that includes the population of slaves. If the original point is why did these states go to war, I don't think they consulted the slaves on this decision.
5.67 percent of the free population of the confederacy were slave owners
But that's still less than 30% what's going on? They then point out, basically, a man could have a wife and children, and other relatives, who are all in some way benefiting from the labour of those slaves, even if only the one man is listed as the legal owner.
So, according to the Census of 1860, 30.8 percent of the free families in the confederacy owned slaves.
So that's where those two numbers seem to come from.
posted by RobotHero at 10:43 PM on September 11 [36 favorites]


This might be watchable without the... whatever is going on with the character he's created to represent the stupid and racist comments. That accent and whatever he is doing with the mouth... sheesh.

Contrapoints is the only person I've seen do this kind of thing (creating a character to argue against) without making me want to die of secondhand embarrassment - perhaps because she somehow shows empathy and understanding for her characters and who they represent, even when they're pretty reprehensible.

Sorry! I hope that this works for some people and that they learn something about confederate myths but I fear that the people he wants to reach are going to be so turned off by the character he's created to represent their views that they won't hear it - so effectively he's just preaching to the converted.
posted by cilantro at 2:50 AM on September 12 [7 favorites]


Sorry! I hope that this works for some people and that they learn something about confederate myths but I fear that the people he wants to reach are going to be so turned off by the character he's created to represent their views that they won't hear it - so effectively he's just preaching to the converted

The straight man he's created as a counterpoint to the rebel seems like an arrogant college student who is telling us what we already know. The whole thing unfortunately feels like an improv sketch that might need some time to tighten up.

Maybe if they took out the internet-bits, "lol," out of the Confederate character's speech and made the counterpoint also a Johnny Reb character who just happens to disagree?
posted by geoff. at 2:55 AM on September 12 [2 favorites]


I like Atun-Shei Films, but [adjusts hipster belt] I prefer his earlier work – before he went all-in on the character dramas.

Were the Confederate Monuments of New Orleans Racist?
Poverty Point: Louisiana's Forgotten Prehistoric Civilization
The Rise and Fall of the Tremé Neighborhood
Slavery in New Orleans
posted by escape from the potato planet at 3:53 AM on September 12 [1 favorite]


Maybe if they took out the internet-bits, "lol," out of the Confederate character's speech

I thought the direct quotes from online comments was the most worthwhile part of this. By juxtaposing the old-timey accent and dress with actual, modern words, he REALLY highlights how pervasive and current the lies of the Confederacy are. They may not look or sound like Johnny Reb, but their words are just as poisonous.

Likewise, I took the shooting at the end to be the equivalent of punching a Nazi. I am always here for punching Nazis/Confederates.
posted by basalganglia at 7:33 AM on September 12 [6 favorites]


A Confederate soldier with a Swedish accent?

It's not important. Just curious.
posted by mule98J at 8:36 AM on September 12



Sorry! I hope that this works for some people and that they learn something about confederate myths but I fear that the people he wants to reach are going to be so turned off by the character he's created to represent their views that they won't hear it - so effectively he's just preaching to the converted.


I agree. Despite the factual info I thought it was cringeworthy overall. Like a parady of "wokeism". And the racist meter thing which then reached "Hitler" level was even dumber.
posted by Liquidwolf at 10:11 AM on September 12 [1 favorite]


Yeah, could have done without the shooting at the end. Don't give the other side that sort of imagery to use.
posted by Catblack at 1:07 PM on September 12


Yeah, could have done without the shooting at the end. Don't give the other side that sort of imagery to use.

I wouldn't worry; the other side isn't watching this.

(Also he's not giving them that imagery - they've already got tons of it)
posted by tzikeh at 1:24 PM on September 12 [2 favorites]


I find this recent video more compelling than the linked video.
posted by Pendragon at 3:20 PM on September 12 [1 favorite]


I thought the shooting was the best part because it was an acknowledgement of the assumed complacency of a white opposition to the point the commentReb had no reason to assume that his counterpart might want to kill him based entirely on his race. It also had the meta context that a *good* even mocking impression of a bad guy will be responded to with suspicion of harboured ideological impurity on the part of the performer.

It was also about the importance of being aware of what you are fighting VS the problem of integration of beliefs via debating their ideas. In the context of contemporary politics, the racist metre was also a comedic way of reminding an assumed progressive audience that acting the part was in no way an endorsement for engaging with the material. We're also given it as a prop to process the cringe/disgust that most folks trying hard not to be racist will feel. And unsubtle is not unreasonable if I am watching it in mixed company, where there is room for no context misinterpretation that could be seen as making *me* scary.

People like Natalie of Contrapoints also wrestle with this, that engagement with an idea is perceived as giving ideological ground. Similarly her perspective is rhetorical spectacle paired with being "reasonable" is a conversion tactic and an inoculation. She, like he does, throw in this disclaimers because YouTube isn't a contained bubble where context provides framing instead.
posted by Phalene at 8:54 AM on September 13


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