flyheccing with the cheez grip
December 5, 2021 2:28 AM   Subscribe

 
"It doesn't require modifying the controller or your hands in any way"

I have questions.
posted by grahamparks at 2:50 AM on December 5, 2021 [30 favorites]


now this is athleticism
posted by joeyh at 4:08 AM on December 5, 2021 [3 favorites]


I used to think I was hot shit if I could get to level 10...

This kind of thing fascinates me. I never cease to be amazed at how willing—and able—people are to push things that seem like they should have nowhere to go. Like, Tetris? Three distinct, high level play styles. For Tetris. I love it.
posted by Mister_Sleight_of_Hand at 4:33 AM on December 5, 2021 [6 favorites]


I cannot agree more. Also found it interesting that the drummer in the video sort of instinctively went for the technique before it was really proven. Let the musicians lead us!
posted by lazaruslong at 4:39 AM on December 5, 2021 [2 favorites]


I remember playing Capcom's Gold Medal Challenge on NES. You had to press A and B as fast as you could to run fast. We figured out that the bets way to do that wasn't to alternate pressing buttons but to rapidly rub our hands across the buttons as fast as we could. This quickly led to terrible blisters, so then we started taping up our fingers and started setting world records.
posted by synecdoche at 4:57 AM on December 5, 2021 [7 favorites]


I have questions.

The chicken is involved, the pig is committed.
posted by mhoye at 6:05 AM on December 5, 2021 [6 favorites]


Three distinct, high level play styles. For Tetris. I love it.

There ought to be four, of course.
posted by chavenet at 6:12 AM on December 5, 2021 [15 favorites]


I heartily recommend Ectasy of Order, a documentary about the competitive Tetris community.

http://watch.ecstasyoforder.com/
posted by papineau at 6:48 AM on December 5, 2021 [1 favorite]


I played brain Tetris to go to sleep last night. I wasn’t nearly this good.
posted by Night_owl at 7:10 AM on December 5, 2021


Anyone know how different NES and Game Boy Tetris mechanics are? I didn’t have an NES, but it was obvious to me as a kid that pressing the Game Boy D-pad repeatedly (with my thumb) was a lot more effective on the higher levels than just holding it down. The videos I’ve seen on NES hypertapping make it sound much more difficult than that, so I assume the Game Boy version has a different DAS repeat rate or something.
posted by stopgap at 9:18 AM on December 5, 2021 [3 favorites]


I'm always fascinated with these kind of things that *could* have been discovered years ago, but weren't.

What is the default repeat rate with just holding down the Dpad? I.e., how much faster is 20Hz?
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 9:56 AM on December 5, 2021 [1 favorite]


It's more complicated than this, but the NES version has a DAS of 16 frames (each frame being about 1/60th of a second) and an ARR of 6 frames. The GB version has a DAS of 23 frames, with an ARR of 9 frames. So the GB version has a slower DAS.

However, the GB tetris caps out at a drop every 3 frames, which is doable, where the NES tetris caps out at a drop every 1 frame, which is not. The playfield on the GB tetris, however, is shorter than that of the NES version, making it a bit harder.

There are a ton of other differences too. It's weird how different they ended up being.
posted by No One Ever Does at 10:26 AM on December 5, 2021 [3 favorites]


Well. Now I know that. And thank you.
posted by From Bklyn at 10:29 AM on December 5, 2021 [1 favorite]


we started taping up our fingers

Which is a DQ.

But you just let your calluses come in, that would be your hand doing the taping for you
posted by eustatic at 10:33 AM on December 5, 2021


I'm not into video games, especially speed games. I don't watch long videos. And yet, I was drawn into this one and watched the whole thing. Thanks for a peek into this different world.

(Though, when the dude showed someone else's video, though, he could have blanked out the corner with the fascist/gamergate/4chan frog.)
posted by hypnogogue at 10:54 AM on December 5, 2021 [1 favorite]


Some of these techniques seem a little... erotic.
posted by alex_skazat at 11:49 AM on December 5, 2021 [3 favorites]


(Though, when the dude showed someone else's video, though, he could have blanked out the corner with the fascist/gamergate/4chan frog.)
I thought this too. But then also because the "pepe" frog was co-opted by the alt right, maybe it's time the character gets co-opted back? We could make Pepe wholesome again and take away the power of the image.
posted by plasmatron7 at 12:00 PM on December 5, 2021 [1 favorite]


Yeah, Pepe is still a big thing on Twitch used by every streamer basically. One of the main emotes and variations. It has a longer and more interesting story than the coopting by the alt-right in 2016. And it's a symbol of resistance in Hong Kong. Pepe is a land of contrasts. (wikipedia)
posted by lazaruslong at 12:11 PM on December 5, 2021 [3 favorites]


Non-online news reporting on what a Pepe is in 2016 is gonna have us having this conversation forever, huh.
posted by atoxyl at 12:19 PM on December 5, 2021 [1 favorite]


i think also just a ton of the videocontent associated with speedrunning is produced onstream which is mostly twitch mostly all of whom use pepe as standard emotes. so anytime twitch bleeds over into anywhere else it's gonna come up, at least for a while longer.
posted by lazaruslong at 12:37 PM on December 5, 2021


Yeah, it just leaves me feeling like “oh, I guess my generation are now the ones getting their view of youth/subcultures from poorly contextualized/frozen in time news pieces.”
posted by atoxyl at 1:37 PM on December 5, 2021 [1 favorite]


I do look forward to watching the Pepe documentary, regardless.
posted by alex_skazat at 7:59 PM on December 5, 2021


The swastika had a much longer life before it was co-opted. I don't think it's salvageable.
posted by Scattercat at 12:08 AM on December 6, 2021


Some of these techniques seem a little... erotic.

That's also a DQ.
posted by mhoye at 7:04 AM on December 6, 2021 [1 favorite]


My stance on pepe softened a bit after watching the documentary... and then I found out the guy's been making NFTs. So.
posted by polytope subirb enby-of-piano-dice at 9:35 AM on December 9, 2021


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