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June 25, 2022 3:47 PM   Subscribe

Youtube music types Adam Neely and Rob Scallon give each other crash courses in writing and playing songs in their respective genres in: Metal Musician Sucks At Jazz and its companion piece Jazz Musician Sucks At Metal.
posted by cortex (14 comments total) 20 users marked this as a favorite
 
That was great. Thanks!
posted by larrybob at 4:58 PM on June 25


I watch all of Adam Neely's videos but these were hilarious. I was impressed how musical competence translates (to some degree) between very different styles. I'd love it if they did a longer version since these were constrained by time. Inspiring stuff even though I don't make jazz or metal!
posted by mmoncur at 5:10 PM on June 25


I think that Metal players can get into Traditional Bluegrass and shred on the breakdown.
posted by ovvl at 6:23 PM on June 25 [2 favorites]


"Guitar players in this particular genre..."

*slaps pickup selector to bridge humbucker*

"...ALWAYS here."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:59 PM on June 25


This is great : ) Thank you!
posted by Cobalt at 8:44 PM on June 25


Oh, my poor bleeding ears. I really think they should have just skipped the horn part completely. Or at least taught the guy the basic notes of the scale. I get that adjusting the mouthpiece placement to deal with the issue of being too sharp or adjusting his embouchure to prevent all that squawking is not something a non-sax (or non-woodwind) player would know how to do on a saxophone, but seriously, fingering a basic scale is just so simple, and it would be a quicker thing to look up on a phone than "how to make a saxophone sound less sharp."

Beyond that, I do like these kinds of knowledge exchanges, and will be taking a look at the metal version later.
posted by sardonyx at 10:03 PM on June 25


Somebody in the comments said that fingering nothing on the sax actually produces a C#, but he’s so flat due to poor embouchure that it comes out as a sharp C, so they then start adjusting the mouthpiece to make it even flatter. Which is pretty funny, which was maybe the point. But yeah I’d think it wouldn’t be prohibitively difficult to actually learn something about the saxophone.

(I never played sax but I played clarinet and I always heard sax fingerings were more straightforward).
posted by atoxyl at 10:23 PM on June 25


They are absolutely more straightforward than the clarinet. If you've ever played recorder in elementary school, you know basic saxophone fingerings (at least for the majority of the naturals).
posted by sardonyx at 11:29 PM on June 25


I think that Metal players can get into Traditional Bluegrass and shred on the breakdown.

That's basically Panopticon, a guy from Kentucky who mixes black metal and Appalachian folk music together. Particularly on Kentucky and Roads to the North, but that's his whole thing.
posted by Special Agent Dale Cooper at 8:57 AM on June 26


They are absolutely more straightforward than the clarinet. If you've ever played recorder in elementary school, you know basic saxophone fingerings (at least for the majority of the naturals).

The thing I remember is that the second register on the sax is up an octave. On clarinet it’s up well more than an octave (octave plus a fifth?) so you can’t use the same fingerings.
posted by atoxyl at 9:59 AM on June 26


Anyway Rob should have let Adam try to get fancier with the single-note riffing - he had it in him but kept getting shepherded to play the most boneheaded metalcore.
posted by atoxyl at 10:03 AM on June 26 [1 favorite]


This is FABULOUS. Thanks so much for sharing. What excellent people.
posted by Zumbador at 10:44 AM on June 26 [1 favorite]


I'm currently trying to learn piano (having had a few years of voice lessons, following several decades of hiatus from high school band), and I love how even as they suck at some of these not-their-usual instruments the base musical skill bleeds through. Like, yeah, the tone is that of an over-enthusiastic 2nd grader blowing a recorder for the first time, but the rhythm and how they pick up on the instrument even in that short time shows how much time they've spent learning the underlying skills.
posted by straw at 1:31 PM on June 27 [1 favorite]


Tangentially, the most recent Rob Scallon video is with Emily Hopkins (who is awesome).
posted by Slothrup at 2:15 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


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