CNN Refuses to Run Connie Chung's Skull & Bones Broadcast
September 5, 2002 10:48 AM Subscribe
CNN Refuses to Run Connie Chung's Skull & Bones Broadcast - well, at least according to that article. I haven't found anything else about it, but the implications are clear. IS THERE something afoot here?
I wouldn't care to belong to any club that had W. as a member
Ultracool computers or not
posted by matteo at 10:55 AM on September 5, 2002
Ultracool computers or not
posted by matteo at 10:55 AM on September 5, 2002
Ms. Chung's TV program would probably have been a puff piece anyway, but the 11th-hour spiking of her Skull & Bones broadcast is a glaring example of the Pravda-like protection of the Establishment that is the so-called "mainstream media."
This sentence makes me feel cuddly. The "Establishment" is "Pravda-like" because it spiked a puff piece? First of all, this person can't seem to decide what decade it's in, and second, can we kill the rest of the puff pieces out there?
posted by Skot at 10:57 AM on September 5, 2002
This sentence makes me feel cuddly. The "Establishment" is "Pravda-like" because it spiked a puff piece? First of all, this person can't seem to decide what decade it's in, and second, can we kill the rest of the puff pieces out there?
posted by Skot at 10:57 AM on September 5, 2002
As a recent Yale graduate who was in a society (not Bones) I can tell you the following:
1) The link has many factual errors. For instance, prospective members are tapped at the end of the junior year, not sophomore year. And the building is not some sort of ultrasecure compound that has "computers that rival NORAD." I know many people who have broken into Skull and Bones for kicks or inter-society pranks. Hate to break it to you but the inside of the building looks like a cross between a hunting lodge and a 1950s style country club bar. Not too exciting.
2) At one point Skull and Bones may have been tapping those destined for world power and greatness. Now, it has a reputation as one of the more geeky societies. While undoubtedly everyone tapped has some powerful talent or connect, that talent is as likely to be first cello in the Yale Symphony Orchestra as it is to be a piercing insight into world affairs.
3) To say Skull and Bones particularly influences things like the Trialateral Commission and the CFR is basically like saying "graduates from top Ivy League colleges influence American politics..." wow, that is sure a surprise. I never would have guessed that.
posted by pjgulliver at 11:12 AM on September 5, 2002
1) The link has many factual errors. For instance, prospective members are tapped at the end of the junior year, not sophomore year. And the building is not some sort of ultrasecure compound that has "computers that rival NORAD." I know many people who have broken into Skull and Bones for kicks or inter-society pranks. Hate to break it to you but the inside of the building looks like a cross between a hunting lodge and a 1950s style country club bar. Not too exciting.
2) At one point Skull and Bones may have been tapping those destined for world power and greatness. Now, it has a reputation as one of the more geeky societies. While undoubtedly everyone tapped has some powerful talent or connect, that talent is as likely to be first cello in the Yale Symphony Orchestra as it is to be a piercing insight into world affairs.
3) To say Skull and Bones particularly influences things like the Trialateral Commission and the CFR is basically like saying "graduates from top Ivy League colleges influence American politics..." wow, that is sure a surprise. I never would have guessed that.
posted by pjgulliver at 11:12 AM on September 5, 2002
Right. They excercise "Pravda-like protection of the Establishment" in silencing Connie Chung, but they allow Hollywood to make this cinematic piece of poop?
posted by Samsonov14 at 11:22 AM on September 5, 2002
posted by Samsonov14 at 11:22 AM on September 5, 2002
From the interview with the author of America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order or Skull & Bones:
I felt then (as I do now) that these "prominent" men are really immature juveniles at heart. The horrible reality is that these little boys have been dominant in their influence in world affairs.
What is it that possesses people - us men, mostly - to want to join pseudo-secret clubs, even well into adulthood? Fraternities/sororities are one thing (you're 18, fer crissake), and some groups do charity work, but still. We all just want to be in the club.
posted by gottabefunky at 11:27 AM on September 5, 2002
I felt then (as I do now) that these "prominent" men are really immature juveniles at heart. The horrible reality is that these little boys have been dominant in their influence in world affairs.
What is it that possesses people - us men, mostly - to want to join pseudo-secret clubs, even well into adulthood? Fraternities/sororities are one thing (you're 18, fer crissake), and some groups do charity work, but still. We all just want to be in the club.
posted by gottabefunky at 11:27 AM on September 5, 2002
nobody seemed much interested back then either...
posted by oh posey at 11:39 AM on September 5, 2002
posted by oh posey at 11:39 AM on September 5, 2002
What is it that possesses people - us men, mostly - to want to join pseudo-secret clubs, even well into adulthood?
Because we don't incorporate (or admit to) ritual circle jerking into our male socialization process.
No, seriously.
posted by WolfDaddy at 11:47 AM on September 5, 2002
Because we don't incorporate (or admit to) ritual circle jerking into our male socialization process.
No, seriously.
posted by WolfDaddy at 11:47 AM on September 5, 2002
Ok, here's some fluff links about the old S&C gang. Yalies...whatcha gonna do? ;) Note, most of these sites are on the fringe side of conspiracy.
In 1836, the fraternal society of the "Skull and Bones" was established at Yale University. It is an Ivy League Society of the Who's Who among the Elite (rich and famous). It is a Senior year society which exists only at Yale. Members are chosen in their Junior year and spend only one year on campus, the Senior year, with Skull & Bones. In other words, the organization is oriented to the graduate outside world. The Order meets annually - patriarchies only - on Deer Island in the St. Lawrence River.
Bush, his fellow Bonesmen and their like-thinking elitist allies in the American Establishment see themselves as New World Order warriors, an American samurai caste of sorts, whose mission is restoring American greatness. They intend to utilize the institutional networks of the U.S. government and key private agencies, such as the New York Council on Foreign Relations. to advance their purpose.
The Skulls is a new Universal Studios feature starring Joshua Jackson and Paul Walker about a young man's initiation into a secret society at an unnamed university in New Haven, Connecticut.
Oh, heck...here's the google link. Giggle at your leisure. :)
posted by dejah420 at 11:48 AM on September 5, 2002
In 1836, the fraternal society of the "Skull and Bones" was established at Yale University. It is an Ivy League Society of the Who's Who among the Elite (rich and famous). It is a Senior year society which exists only at Yale. Members are chosen in their Junior year and spend only one year on campus, the Senior year, with Skull & Bones. In other words, the organization is oriented to the graduate outside world. The Order meets annually - patriarchies only - on Deer Island in the St. Lawrence River.
Bush, his fellow Bonesmen and their like-thinking elitist allies in the American Establishment see themselves as New World Order warriors, an American samurai caste of sorts, whose mission is restoring American greatness. They intend to utilize the institutional networks of the U.S. government and key private agencies, such as the New York Council on Foreign Relations. to advance their purpose.
The Skulls is a new Universal Studios feature starring Joshua Jackson and Paul Walker about a young man's initiation into a secret society at an unnamed university in New Haven, Connecticut.
Oh, heck...here's the google link. Giggle at your leisure. :)
posted by dejah420 at 11:48 AM on September 5, 2002
They won't show her piece on the Men In Black, either.
Hold on, there's someone at my door. My, he's dressed very nicely, too...
posted by hadashi at 11:49 AM on September 5, 2002
Hold on, there's someone at my door. My, he's dressed very nicely, too...
posted by hadashi at 11:49 AM on September 5, 2002
To say Skull and Bones particularly influences things like the Trialateral Commission and the CFR is basically like saying "graduates from top Ivy League colleges influence American politics..." wow, that is sure a surprise. I never would have guessed that.
Nice try! Let's sum up the evidence, shall we?
1. You admit to being a member of a Yale society. You (very cleverly, I might add) insist that it was "not bones" (ie the Skull and Bones society), but that is clearly a careful ruse.
2. You admit that you "know many people" who have been inside the top-secret Skull and Bones compound. Could these so-called "people" in fact be other bonesmen?!
3. You say "...everyone tapped has some powerful talent or connect," which essentially proves the article right. You go on to say "that talent is as likely to be first cello in the Yale Symphony Orchestra as it is to be a piercing insight into world affairs.", which I will choose to ignore!
4. You admit that top ivy leaguers influence American politics. That is your fatal slip up, because isn't it true that the Skull and Bones society is made up entirely of top ivy leaguers?
The Skull and Bones society is a secret fraternal organization which controls the world and has special superpowers, and a basement full of computers and lasers, QED.
posted by Hildago at 11:51 AM on September 5, 2002
Nice try! Let's sum up the evidence, shall we?
1. You admit to being a member of a Yale society. You (very cleverly, I might add) insist that it was "not bones" (ie the Skull and Bones society), but that is clearly a careful ruse.
2. You admit that you "know many people" who have been inside the top-secret Skull and Bones compound. Could these so-called "people" in fact be other bonesmen?!
3. You say "...everyone tapped has some powerful talent or connect," which essentially proves the article right. You go on to say "that talent is as likely to be first cello in the Yale Symphony Orchestra as it is to be a piercing insight into world affairs.", which I will choose to ignore!
4. You admit that top ivy leaguers influence American politics. That is your fatal slip up, because isn't it true that the Skull and Bones society is made up entirely of top ivy leaguers?
The Skull and Bones society is a secret fraternal organization which controls the world and has special superpowers, and a basement full of computers and lasers, QED.
posted by Hildago at 11:51 AM on September 5, 2002
Actually, Bones is not just a "patriarchies only" club. They have let women in for several years. And Yale isn't the only school to have societies. Harvard has Finals Clubs, Princeton eating clubs, etc. One thing to note is that Yale banned on campus fraternities in the late 1950s (or early sixties.) While students can still join frats off-campus, this dealt a huge blow to the fraternity scene, and made the Society scene all the more important.
posted by pjgulliver at 11:54 AM on September 5, 2002
posted by pjgulliver at 11:54 AM on September 5, 2002
Hildalgo, I must kill you now.
posted by pjgulliver at 11:55 AM on September 5, 2002
posted by pjgulliver at 11:55 AM on September 5, 2002
Quiet, Hildago, or Mr. Gulliver will send world steel prices into a tailspin.
posted by tingley at 11:55 AM on September 5, 2002
posted by tingley at 11:55 AM on September 5, 2002
Sorry I spelled your name wrong in the death threat Hildago, unfortunately that won't help prolong your existence. You know too much.
posted by pjgulliver at 11:59 AM on September 5, 2002
posted by pjgulliver at 11:59 AM on September 5, 2002
We all just want to be in the club.
Definitely
Hidalgo, you put Connie Chung to shame :).
Yeah, but now he has to trick Tipper Gore into calling Laura Bush "a bitch" oncamera
posted by matteo at 12:28 PM on September 5, 2002
Definitely
Hidalgo, you put Connie Chung to shame :).
Yeah, but now he has to trick Tipper Gore into calling Laura Bush "a bitch" oncamera
posted by matteo at 12:28 PM on September 5, 2002
Wait a minute Hildago, are you saying that pjgulliver is Connie Chung? (!)
posted by joemaller at 12:31 PM on September 5, 2002
posted by joemaller at 12:31 PM on September 5, 2002
"... computer facilities which are said to rival NORAD in sophistication ..." in 1981.
That's not saying much, since at that time it was Apples or mainframes, essentially.
posted by Cerebus at 12:51 PM on September 5, 2002
That's not saying much, since at that time it was Apples or mainframes, essentially.
posted by Cerebus at 12:51 PM on September 5, 2002
Ok, if the Skull & Bones = The Stonecutters, does Bush = Steve Guttenberg?
posted by mmesker at 1:30 PM on September 5, 2002
posted by mmesker at 1:30 PM on September 5, 2002
Brilliant, mmesker.
posted by pjgulliver at 1:41 PM on September 5, 2002
posted by pjgulliver at 1:41 PM on September 5, 2002
I've been to one of their meetings. It was above a convenience store. It was a dream... We live inside a dream.
Seriously, it's pretty lame in the Bones tomb. So I've heard. Heh.
posted by evanizer at 5:32 PM on September 5, 2002
Seriously, it's pretty lame in the Bones tomb. So I've heard. Heh.
posted by evanizer at 5:32 PM on September 5, 2002
Here's an interesting article from someone who was tapped for Skull & Bones at the same time as George W. Bush, and said "no".
posted by Potsy at 7:27 PM on September 5, 2002
posted by Potsy at 7:27 PM on September 5, 2002
Connie Chung? I get all my Skull & Bones news from Ron Rosenbaum. Ron's been obsessing over Bones for years. (Personally, the room of Mysterious License plates is my favorite.)
posted by octobersurprise at 8:23 PM on September 5, 2002
posted by octobersurprise at 8:23 PM on September 5, 2002
Oh yes, this sounds very familiar. I remember at my own university we had elite, secret societies where we would indulge in bizarre rituals such as dancing to early eighties pop while drinking mysterious beverages such as 'Hooch' and 'Diamond White'. Now my colleagues and I are influencing the world via our top positions in IT support, academic administration and editorial production.
posted by Summer at 5:32 AM on September 6, 2002
posted by Summer at 5:32 AM on September 6, 2002
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