Music Industry releases new piracy-proof format!
September 9, 2002 7:06 AM Subscribe
Music Industry releases new piracy-proof format! But not to worry there is already a crack out for the format.
The terms 'record deck', 'amp', 'phono to 3.5mm jack' and 'audio recording software' all spring to mind...
posted by i_cola at 7:48 AM on September 9, 2002
posted by i_cola at 7:48 AM on September 9, 2002
(Is it Friday already?
Hmmm, looked like a plain ol', non-flash page, didn't have a quiz on what animal I most resemble whilst doin' the dishes or some such. Looks like something that "most people haven't seen before, there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others.")
The sound quality is terrible, but it's still amazing to me that this dog can talk at all. High res images and some better code=a true turntable emulator. That's pretty damn cool: as turntables themselves become more rare, we'll still have a way to play vinyl. Takes care of one set of "lost format" worries.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 7:49 AM on September 9, 2002
Hmmm, looked like a plain ol', non-flash page, didn't have a quiz on what animal I most resemble whilst doin' the dishes or some such. Looks like something that "most people haven't seen before, there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others.")
The sound quality is terrible, but it's still amazing to me that this dog can talk at all. High res images and some better code=a true turntable emulator. That's pretty damn cool: as turntables themselves become more rare, we'll still have a way to play vinyl. Takes care of one set of "lost format" worries.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 7:49 AM on September 9, 2002
[ caveman ] What is this turntable you speak of? I am frightened yet intriqued by this spinning device. Can I eat it? [ /caveman ]
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 7:57 AM on September 9, 2002
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 7:57 AM on September 9, 2002
I am frightened yet intriqued by this spinning device. Can I eat it?
Well, there is Delicious Vinyl...
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:00 AM on September 9, 2002
Well, there is Delicious Vinyl...
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:00 AM on September 9, 2002
Mmmm. Caveman always like Brand New Heavies. Very disappointed when N'dea Davenport left band.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 8:09 AM on September 9, 2002
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 8:09 AM on September 9, 2002
I don't think vinyl is going anywhere. A lot of labels still release vinyl versions (some times special vinyl-only versions) of their albums.
The Hellacopters always leave special tracks off of their CD releases, but put them on the vinyl versions.
Hell, I have both Slipknot albums on vinyl. And I got them cheaper than the actual CDs.
And considering the spread of turntables as musical devices, vinyl is pretty-much here to stay.
posted by Dark Messiah at 8:16 AM on September 9, 2002
The Hellacopters always leave special tracks off of their CD releases, but put them on the vinyl versions.
Hell, I have both Slipknot albums on vinyl. And I got them cheaper than the actual CDs.
And considering the spread of turntables as musical devices, vinyl is pretty-much here to stay.
posted by Dark Messiah at 8:16 AM on September 9, 2002
you can chow down on jus' trax as well.
for the record (excuse the pun), I have only bought vinyl in the last seven years.
posted by Frasermoo at 8:25 AM on September 9, 2002
for the record (excuse the pun), I have only bought vinyl in the last seven years.
posted by Frasermoo at 8:25 AM on September 9, 2002
The Hellacopters always leave special tracks off of their CD releases, but put them on the vinyl versions.
You know, I really hate that type of format snobbery. Fans are being punished for not using the same type of sound reproduction technology that the artist prefers. I have a shitty turntable, so if a record only comes out on 7" or 12" vinyl I can make due, but there are some kids that just can't afford to shell out $100-$500 for a record player. Some just prefer the convenience of cd's. Should they be penalized for this?
In an opposite move, some bands sell their records with free copies of the content on cd or cdr.
posted by mikrophon at 8:29 AM on September 9, 2002
You know, I really hate that type of format snobbery. Fans are being punished for not using the same type of sound reproduction technology that the artist prefers. I have a shitty turntable, so if a record only comes out on 7" or 12" vinyl I can make due, but there are some kids that just can't afford to shell out $100-$500 for a record player. Some just prefer the convenience of cd's. Should they be penalized for this?
In an opposite move, some bands sell their records with free copies of the content on cd or cdr.
posted by mikrophon at 8:29 AM on September 9, 2002
the "crack" to the format is discussed at length at slashdot, where many think it's a hoax. meanwhile, Cory seems to think it's the coolest thing since sliced bread.
posted by gwint at 8:31 AM on September 9, 2002
posted by gwint at 8:31 AM on September 9, 2002
Caveman, I give you Eat More Records, a punk and hardcore label from Kentucky.
posted by soundofsuburbia at 8:33 AM on September 9, 2002
posted by soundofsuburbia at 8:33 AM on September 9, 2002
You know, I really hate that type of format snobbery.
Snobbery? Methinks not. More of an incentive to buy an album twice -- instead of just having the LP for your collection and the CD to listen to. Otherwise, why bother with a vinyl release, IMO.
Besides, they're b-sides. And, frankly, I prefer that to album that have "bonus tracks" which are on every fucking pressing.
And it's not like the bonus tracks are hard to find on the 'Net.
posted by Dark Messiah at 9:27 AM on September 9, 2002
Snobbery? Methinks not. More of an incentive to buy an album twice -- instead of just having the LP for your collection and the CD to listen to. Otherwise, why bother with a vinyl release, IMO.
Besides, they're b-sides. And, frankly, I prefer that to album that have "bonus tracks" which are on every fucking pressing.
And it's not like the bonus tracks are hard to find on the 'Net.
posted by Dark Messiah at 9:27 AM on September 9, 2002
Many of my friends swear by vinyl for the diverse selection such as DJ releases not meant for the masses. Also, I personally enjoy flee market hunts for those oddball finds.
posted by Dr_Octavius at 10:15 AM on September 9, 2002
posted by Dr_Octavius at 10:15 AM on September 9, 2002
Ah, but then you burn the record from your stereo into a mini-disc player and then transfer that into your computer and, PRESTO-you've burned a record! (Although it sounds like shit usually.)
I still have my record player and all my Siouxise, Cure, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Clash, Sex Pistols, and other records in my posession. I have a great record player that you can stack up to 10 records on and it will play them all auotmatically. Then, when they're all played, you flip the stack over and play the other side. An early "random" function. Very high-tech when I got it.
Damn, but I used to be cool.
posted by aacheson at 10:31 AM on September 9, 2002
I still have my record player and all my Siouxise, Cure, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Clash, Sex Pistols, and other records in my posession. I have a great record player that you can stack up to 10 records on and it will play them all auotmatically. Then, when they're all played, you flip the stack over and play the other side. An early "random" function. Very high-tech when I got it.
Damn, but I used to be cool.
posted by aacheson at 10:31 AM on September 9, 2002
there's a label somewhat interested in my punk band, and they want to realease a 7" of our stuff. Why not a cd? it's way cheaper/easier. I don't know, punk stuff is always on vinyl apparently.
posted by imaswinger at 10:59 AM on September 9, 2002
posted by imaswinger at 10:59 AM on September 9, 2002
An early "random" function. Very high-tech when I got it.
And many long sequential recordings (symphonies & operas) made use of an early 'playlist' feature, having sides 1-4 on all the A sides and 5-8 on the B sides, just to take advantage of that special feature!
(BTW, that is really the only reasonable way to listen to 78s since they are over SO quickly)
posted by HTuttle at 11:33 AM on September 9, 2002
And many long sequential recordings (symphonies & operas) made use of an early 'playlist' feature, having sides 1-4 on all the A sides and 5-8 on the B sides, just to take advantage of that special feature!
(BTW, that is really the only reasonable way to listen to 78s since they are over SO quickly)
posted by HTuttle at 11:33 AM on September 9, 2002
I don't know, punk stuff is always on vinyl apparently.
Errr... no. I know plenty of punk that gets released on CD -- and yes, I'm talking underground. Vinyl is an underground thing, largely, and it's not genre-specific.
A lot of metal bands also release 7-inches, and LPs. Hell, Earache Records just re-released At The Gates Slaughter of the Soul on vinyl, with extra tracks. (CD too, for those who don't like quote-UN-quote "format snobbery".) And that's just one example. Like I said, it's by no means genre specific.
I could go on and on, naming diverse bands who have done vinyl-only releases. My Slow Horse / Calamus split, and my copy of Tweaker's Linoleum single are pretty good examples; sludge, rock, and a producer's electronic / guitar album, all on vinyl.
posted by Dark Messiah at 11:39 AM on September 9, 2002
Errr... no. I know plenty of punk that gets released on CD -- and yes, I'm talking underground. Vinyl is an underground thing, largely, and it's not genre-specific.
A lot of metal bands also release 7-inches, and LPs. Hell, Earache Records just re-released At The Gates Slaughter of the Soul on vinyl, with extra tracks. (CD too, for those who don't like quote-UN-quote "format snobbery".) And that's just one example. Like I said, it's by no means genre specific.
I could go on and on, naming diverse bands who have done vinyl-only releases. My Slow Horse / Calamus split, and my copy of Tweaker's Linoleum single are pretty good examples; sludge, rock, and a producer's electronic / guitar album, all on vinyl.
posted by Dark Messiah at 11:39 AM on September 9, 2002
errrrr....
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 11:43 AM on September 9, 2002
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 11:43 AM on September 9, 2002
For those without records players who absolutely cannot wait for their favorite lp to be released onto CD (country moog anyone?), there's always this place. A bit expensive, but they give you both the record and c.d. I myself don't have the funds to try it. Nice concept though.
posted by snez at 12:24 PM on September 9, 2002
posted by snez at 12:24 PM on September 9, 2002
The terms 'record deck', 'amp', 'phono to 3.5mm jack' and 'audio recording software' all spring to mind...
That's what I love about MetaFilter. Somebody always beats you to the punch.
Look, the fact is that the toothpaste tube is open and the paste is all over the damned bathroom. I don't care how much shit they encode or encrypt or enshrine, file-sharing is here to stay. As i_cola mentioned, folks can always go lo-fi if they want to rip tracks, or for that matter can go to mini-disc and record in real-time. The point isn't whether or not I can get the song for free, it's if I can use the medium in a fashion that I find to be convenient and if the medium allows me greater control and freedom in how I choose to categorize, keep, and use my music collection.
If these bozos in the recording industry had spent as much time in the last five years or so developing new and more effective ways to use and market this new technology as they have trying to thwart it, they'd be ahead of the curve that they claim to be behind in the next decade. Every time in recent history that the American entertainment industry faced a new technology that gave the consumer more control over the medium, the industry shuddered and cried in alarm, and every time, the new development ended up saving the industry's ass and, in fact, causing it to flourish like never before. This short-sighted, dumb-assed, thick-headed, numb-skulled reaction to a rising and inevitable technology is exactly why I so often say what I say about American capitalism--is a fabulous economic system, but it has a treacherous flaw, one that causes it to stagnate and its practitioners to become slobbering idiots: A slavish, unquestioning worship of the bottom line.
posted by NedKoppel at 12:39 PM on September 9, 2002
That's what I love about MetaFilter. Somebody always beats you to the punch.
Look, the fact is that the toothpaste tube is open and the paste is all over the damned bathroom. I don't care how much shit they encode or encrypt or enshrine, file-sharing is here to stay. As i_cola mentioned, folks can always go lo-fi if they want to rip tracks, or for that matter can go to mini-disc and record in real-time. The point isn't whether or not I can get the song for free, it's if I can use the medium in a fashion that I find to be convenient and if the medium allows me greater control and freedom in how I choose to categorize, keep, and use my music collection.
If these bozos in the recording industry had spent as much time in the last five years or so developing new and more effective ways to use and market this new technology as they have trying to thwart it, they'd be ahead of the curve that they claim to be behind in the next decade. Every time in recent history that the American entertainment industry faced a new technology that gave the consumer more control over the medium, the industry shuddered and cried in alarm, and every time, the new development ended up saving the industry's ass and, in fact, causing it to flourish like never before. This short-sighted, dumb-assed, thick-headed, numb-skulled reaction to a rising and inevitable technology is exactly why I so often say what I say about American capitalism--is a fabulous economic system, but it has a treacherous flaw, one that causes it to stagnate and its practitioners to become slobbering idiots: A slavish, unquestioning worship of the bottom line.
posted by NedKoppel at 12:39 PM on September 9, 2002
A brief technical explaination of why CDs are inferior to (mint condition) LPs in terms of sound quality.
posted by boltman at 2:21 PM on September 9, 2002
posted by boltman at 2:21 PM on September 9, 2002
I don't know about you, but I'm gonna go re-read The Vinyl Anachronist now.
posted by soundofsuburbia at 3:59 PM on September 9, 2002
posted by soundofsuburbia at 3:59 PM on September 9, 2002
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