20 Red Panda Cams
November 28, 2024 3:21 PM   Subscribe

 
Firefox is still my browser of choice on desktop and mobile, but Mozilla has been doing a lot of shitty things lately that make it pretty hard to be excited about this milestone.
posted by tonycpsu at 4:45 PM on November 28 [9 favorites]


I am concerned about Mozilla too but unfortunately it seems like there's a lot of room to be shitty and still be better than the worse shit the big players are pushing into their browsers.
posted by SaltySalticid at 5:11 PM on November 28 [7 favorites]


> Mozilla has been doing

“Mozilla is an advertising company now” is the first of the three links, and to note something poorly understood: Mozilla has been an advertising company, either directly or indirectly, for decades. It’s just vertically integrating the advertising instead of outsourcing it.
posted by Callisto Prime at 7:05 PM on November 28 [2 favorites]


Team. Metafilter. Mates. Focus on the red pandas.
posted by Fiasco da Gama at 8:13 PM on November 28 [8 favorites]


...modern genetic evidence places [the Red Panda] in close affinity with raccoons, weasels, and skunks. It is not closely related to the giant panda...

Just goes to show the power of the red pandas' marketing team.

Distancing themselves from their weasel associates and positioning themselves as Pandas® was a genius move.
posted by fairmettle at 10:45 PM on November 28


Firefox is a great name. Does make me think of the Clint Eastwood film more than cute red pandas though.
posted by ElasticParrot at 7:30 AM on November 29


Who knows what it'll be showing by the time you click on it, but this Orangutan Cam at the San Diego Zoo is currently pretty amazing: a mom and wee kid playing on jungle gym ropes together.

(Oh, no, the camera just moved. Now you can see a human toddler hopping around on the other side of some glass, at least.)

(Wait, it moved again. Now it's a grownup orangutan showing off some tool usage.)

(This really does seem to be a high-density delight, this cam feed.)
posted by nobody at 9:29 AM on November 29 [1 favorite]


Cool - now get rid of the all the bullshit teaming up with Meta and pushing ads and forcing things on users and opt-in by default. I use you moz, because apparently Youtubes bullshittery may work to fuck up Vivaldi's adblocking but at least Moz still is able to overcome some of that, but ... ugh. Please give us better. I just see it getting worse, though. Either way, congrats to 20 years, don't fuck it all up in the next few just because you need a new sugar daddy.
posted by symbioid at 12:59 PM on November 29 [2 favorites]


I used Firefox 1.0 to join MeFi twenty years ago yesterday. Firefox has been my daily driver ever since, but I have been increasingly unhappy with Mozilla's taste in corporate partners for some while now and will be keeping a close eye on the progress of the Ladybird project.
posted by flabdablet at 9:57 PM on November 30 [1 favorite]


Bug 1897608 Opened 7 months ago Updated 5 months ago
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/112.0.0.0 Safari/537.36

Steps to reproduce:

Visited the manifesto

Actual results:

The manifesto appeared, including principle 9, which states:

“Commercial involvement in the development of the internet brings many benefits; a balance between commercial profit and public benefit is critical.”

Expected results:

This “balance” clause between commercial profit and public benefit introduces a mechanism for contradicting all the other principles. It brings unnecessary compromise. A balance will always result no matter what Mozilla does. It’s not a goal worthy of an explicit statement statement in the manifesto.

If the principle were strictly reworded to maximize public benefit and drop “commercial profit”, that would still inherently imply commercial profitability in the end because the public benefits from commerce. It’s not Mozilla’s role to negotiate a balance that might reduce public benefit. Principle 9 essentially serves as an enabler for conflicts of interest. It likely exists because Mozilla itself has a profit-driven subsidiary. But that profitable subsidiary does not need principle 9 to justify its existence simply because its mission inherently benefits the public interest anyway. “Balance” is really weasel wording for being able to adversely put a thumb on the scale.
posted by flabdablet at 10:28 PM on November 30


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