Score one for the RIAA
December 9, 2002 3:56 PM Subscribe
Score one for the RIAA. I don't know if this slipped below the Mefi radar, but CD Covers has been successfully targeted by the RIAA.
Frankly, I'm surprised it took them this long. The free availability of high-res labels and jackets almost certainly increases the value of, and thus the demand for, pirated CDs.
posted by boltman at 4:18 PM on December 9, 2002
posted by boltman at 4:18 PM on December 9, 2002
Nope. Knew about it a while back. A good place for a lot of that style of news is ZeroPaid.
posted by Samizdata at 4:30 PM on December 9, 2002
posted by Samizdata at 4:30 PM on December 9, 2002
More like score one for millions of designers having their copyrighted artwork being protected.
although, I can't say that I would have cared had it been my own work.
posted by cinderful at 4:41 PM on December 9, 2002
although, I can't say that I would have cared had it been my own work.
posted by cinderful at 4:41 PM on December 9, 2002
I would have thought that the designers did work for hire meaning no royalties would be paid anyway.
posted by infowar at 4:47 PM on December 9, 2002
posted by infowar at 4:47 PM on December 9, 2002
Yeah I think the point is more value adding to pirated CDs, than pirating copyrighted visual artworks works. I doubt people who design cover artwork for CDs get paid on a per-unit-shifted basis.
posted by Jimbob at 5:38 PM on December 9, 2002
posted by Jimbob at 5:38 PM on December 9, 2002
designers who designer cd covers are NOT PAID ROYALTIES. they're paid once ... end of story
so it's not really any damage to them if the work is shared over the net; they've already been paid all they're going to be.
posted by 11235813 at 5:41 PM on December 9, 2002
so it's not really any damage to them if the work is shared over the net; they've already been paid all they're going to be.
posted by 11235813 at 5:41 PM on December 9, 2002
I wish some well respected cracker would make an announcement declaring war on the RIAA. That would be cool.
posted by Dillonlikescookies at 6:49 PM on December 9, 2002
posted by Dillonlikescookies at 6:49 PM on December 9, 2002
I have over 250 full albums I haven't paid a penny for, and I will continue to download as much music as I possibly can.
Although impossible, if the RIAA was able to somehow keep all music off the internet, then i'll make a quick buck selling my MP3 Cd's to people. No one can stop me. Not when theres thousands of people out there all over the world who think just like me.
posted by Keyser Soze at 4:04 AM on December 10, 2002
Although impossible, if the RIAA was able to somehow keep all music off the internet, then i'll make a quick buck selling my MP3 Cd's to people. No one can stop me. Not when theres thousands of people out there all over the world who think just like me.
posted by Keyser Soze at 4:04 AM on December 10, 2002
Keyser Soze! You are just the sort of idiot these record companies are fighting back at! If you would use P2P to learn about new music, like a giant music library, it would almost certainly increase CD sales and they wouldn't have to do stupid things like copy protection and shutting down sites etc.
How can you think that it is your right (yeah freedom of speech and fuck the bisnes) to copy anything you desire?
It is stealing. And there is no excuse. Real living musicians and artists have to be paid for the work they do. People like you really make me mad.
Buy music, don't steal it. (I use Kazaa to hear new music easily. It has made me buy more records than ever before.)
posted by hoskala at 5:18 AM on December 10, 2002
How can you think that it is your right (yeah freedom of speech and fuck the bisnes) to copy anything you desire?
It is stealing. And there is no excuse. Real living musicians and artists have to be paid for the work they do. People like you really make me mad.
Buy music, don't steal it. (I use Kazaa to hear new music easily. It has made me buy more records than ever before.)
posted by hoskala at 5:18 AM on December 10, 2002
keyser soze that kinda attitude is rather horrid and completely juvenile ... and that is the EXACT reason why the RIAA, MPAA are on their anti-piracy campaign; that attitude is the EXACT reason why internet radio broadcasters can no longer continue, it is the exact reason why the SSSCA has been proposed and why venture capitalists are no longer willing to invest in media technology that hilary rosen and jack valenti don't sign off on; .... so thank you for that;
hell ... if you've that kinda attitude, you're not even contributing to the community library and network that you share on ... you're a FREELOADER;
for every album i download, i probably legitimatly buy one as well ... which i then rip to high bitrate ogg, and share it; altho in the eyes of the RIAA my action is probably totally unjustifiable, file sharing has lead me to buy sooo much more music, see more shows and has exposed me to so much more as well;
posted by 11235813 at 6:29 AM on December 10, 2002
hell ... if you've that kinda attitude, you're not even contributing to the community library and network that you share on ... you're a FREELOADER;
for every album i download, i probably legitimatly buy one as well ... which i then rip to high bitrate ogg, and share it; altho in the eyes of the RIAA my action is probably totally unjustifiable, file sharing has lead me to buy sooo much more music, see more shows and has exposed me to so much more as well;
posted by 11235813 at 6:29 AM on December 10, 2002
Yeah... I can't be bothered to go into why, I'll leave that to the two people above me, but Soze, you are a proper twat.
cdcovers.cc was basically and flagrantly infringing copyright. Nothing to complain about there, so, no change really.
posted by ed\26h at 8:11 AM on December 10, 2002
cdcovers.cc was basically and flagrantly infringing copyright. Nothing to complain about there, so, no change really.
posted by ed\26h at 8:11 AM on December 10, 2002
I wish some well respected cracker would make an announcement declaring war on the RIAA. That would be cool.
posted by Dillonlikescookies at 6:49 PM PST on December 9
Why would it?
posted by ed\26h at 8:35 AM on December 10, 2002
posted by Dillonlikescookies at 6:49 PM PST on December 9
Why would it?
posted by ed\26h at 8:35 AM on December 10, 2002
OK, the path this discussion has taken is bringing up a question.
Over the last fifteen years or so, I've built up a library of maybe 800 CDs -- but hardly any of my money has gone towards artist royalties or even the RIAA. This is due to the fact that I've done 99% of my shopping at used-CD stores. Other than gifts, I haven't bought a single brand-new CD in years. (My money goes lots farther that way; I won't spend more than $8 or $9 for a CD unless it's something I've wanted for a long long time, and I often find surprisingly good stuff for $5 or $6.)
A fraction of these are promos / cutouts etc, but the bulk of them are just regular CDs that someone else bought new and sold to the store.
Am I contributing to the death of the recording industry?
Also: what if Keyzer sent a small donation to each artist whose music he's downloaded? He could send them more than twice their royalty and it would still be a dramatic savings to him.
posted by sesquipedalia at 11:47 AM on December 10, 2002
Over the last fifteen years or so, I've built up a library of maybe 800 CDs -- but hardly any of my money has gone towards artist royalties or even the RIAA. This is due to the fact that I've done 99% of my shopping at used-CD stores. Other than gifts, I haven't bought a single brand-new CD in years. (My money goes lots farther that way; I won't spend more than $8 or $9 for a CD unless it's something I've wanted for a long long time, and I often find surprisingly good stuff for $5 or $6.)
A fraction of these are promos / cutouts etc, but the bulk of them are just regular CDs that someone else bought new and sold to the store.
Am I contributing to the death of the recording industry?
Also: what if Keyzer sent a small donation to each artist whose music he's downloaded? He could send them more than twice their royalty and it would still be a dramatic savings to him.
posted by sesquipedalia at 11:47 AM on December 10, 2002
Why? Because I think the best solution would be all out war between crackers and the RIAA.
Call me idealistic.
posted by Dillonlikescookies at 9:06 PM on December 10, 2002
Call me idealistic.
posted by Dillonlikescookies at 9:06 PM on December 10, 2002
war between crackers and the RIAA
There should be a war between CD buyers and the crackers and freeloaders who pay nothing for the music they download.
It shouldn't be too hard to understand that musicians can't make music for their living if nobody pays them.
I think that the companies (and the RIAA) have taken wrong methods to beat the criminals. For example CD copy protection is harming legal customer rights. The pirates aren't affected. I have a Mac and I can't listen to new records issued by the large companies. That means I'll be listening to lots of jazz and marginal music in the near future... :-)
I'm just wondering what happens in a few years time when most of the people have a DVD player instead of an audio-CD-player...
posted by hoskala at 4:47 AM on December 11, 2002
There should be a war between CD buyers and the crackers and freeloaders who pay nothing for the music they download.
It shouldn't be too hard to understand that musicians can't make music for their living if nobody pays them.
I think that the companies (and the RIAA) have taken wrong methods to beat the criminals. For example CD copy protection is harming legal customer rights. The pirates aren't affected. I have a Mac and I can't listen to new records issued by the large companies. That means I'll be listening to lots of jazz and marginal music in the near future... :-)
I'm just wondering what happens in a few years time when most of the people have a DVD player instead of an audio-CD-player...
posted by hoskala at 4:47 AM on December 11, 2002
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