20-year-old draws the line
January 23, 2003 8:19 AM Subscribe
Intern : I was told to mislead the FBI. Yet another good looking young woman finds her beauty has landed her in a tough spot. How many young people working as interns will be forced to suffer embarrassment as a result of the misconduct of their employers?
Too bad they won't investigate Supreme Court members for deciding the 2000 pres. election with sons and daughters working on and associated with the Bush campaign team!
More to the point, there was an awfull lot of this sort of thing going on in the Jeb Bush Fla. gov. around the 2000 election also.
That is truly one beautifull intern, sheauga. To answer your question: Kurt Vonnegut wrote a short story about this very problem, a spoof of the communist belief in 'levelling' . His solution was called "handicapping", and would have required that this intern wear a paper bag over her head.
posted by troutfishing at 8:46 AM on January 23, 2003
More to the point, there was an awfull lot of this sort of thing going on in the Jeb Bush Fla. gov. around the 2000 election also.
That is truly one beautifull intern, sheauga. To answer your question: Kurt Vonnegut wrote a short story about this very problem, a spoof of the communist belief in 'levelling' . His solution was called "handicapping", and would have required that this intern wear a paper bag over her head.
posted by troutfishing at 8:46 AM on January 23, 2003
Yet another good looking young woman finds her beauty has landed her in a tough spot.
???? How, precisely did her physical appearance land her in a tough spot? Seems to me it was her choice to have an affair, not her genetics. She's a looker, yes, she ain't Helen of Troy.
posted by Wulfgar! at 8:49 AM on January 23, 2003
???? How, precisely did her physical appearance land her in a tough spot? Seems to me it was her choice to have an affair, not her genetics. She's a looker, yes, she ain't Helen of Troy.
posted by Wulfgar! at 8:49 AM on January 23, 2003
Oh, please.
If I've read the article aright, the jury's still out.
While it's slightly (okay, hyperbolically) off-thread, has anyone else read When She Was Bad by Patricia Pearson?
While it's true that this guy may be a slimy horndog, and I'm not equating Nadia Alaglan with Karla Homolka, it should also be remembered that cute little bad girls often get away with things.
posted by 314/ at 8:50 AM on January 23, 2003
If I've read the article aright, the jury's still out.
While it's slightly (okay, hyperbolically) off-thread, has anyone else read When She Was Bad by Patricia Pearson?
While it's true that this guy may be a slimy horndog, and I'm not equating Nadia Alaglan with Karla Homolka, it should also be remembered that cute little bad girls often get away with things.
posted by 314/ at 8:50 AM on January 23, 2003
"Yet another good looking young woman finds her beauty has landed her in a tough spot." -- i read this article and find myself going: "errr... huh?" to this statement. am i missing something?
posted by eatdonuts at 8:50 AM on January 23, 2003
posted by eatdonuts at 8:50 AM on January 23, 2003
How many young people working as interns will be forced to suffer embarrassment as a result of the misconduct of their employers?
Seventeen. Seventeen young people working as interns will be forced to suffer embarassment as a result of the misconduct of their employers. Next question?
posted by jonson at 8:56 AM on January 23, 2003
Seventeen. Seventeen young people working as interns will be forced to suffer embarassment as a result of the misconduct of their employers. Next question?
posted by jonson at 8:56 AM on January 23, 2003
She's as big of a crook as he is.
It only takes a modicum of common sense to figure out that you can't get paid by the county and work on political activities during working hours. It definately doesn't take much to figure out that you shouldn't lie to the FBI, either.
She knowingly and willingly broke the law, and I hope she and her boss both get nailed for it. Hard.
Witold
posted by Witold at 8:57 AM on January 23, 2003
It only takes a modicum of common sense to figure out that you can't get paid by the county and work on political activities during working hours. It definately doesn't take much to figure out that you shouldn't lie to the FBI, either.
She knowingly and willingly broke the law, and I hope she and her boss both get nailed for it. Hard.
Witold
posted by Witold at 8:57 AM on January 23, 2003
As the article states, she's a pre-law student. Must not be taking notes in class.
posted by laz-e-boy at 9:02 AM on January 23, 2003
posted by laz-e-boy at 9:02 AM on January 23, 2003
She's twenty years old. Probably selected for the job because she was young and could be pushed around. I don't see her as being anywhere near as responsible for this crime as the man.
posted by xammerboy at 9:12 AM on January 23, 2003
posted by xammerboy at 9:12 AM on January 23, 2003
As the article states, she's a pre-law student.
At J-Lo University, no less! (If I recall correctly)
posted by luser at 9:17 AM on January 23, 2003
At J-Lo University, no less! (If I recall correctly)
posted by luser at 9:17 AM on January 23, 2003
Pre law doesn't mean jack shit. That just means she is planning on taking the bare minimum of classes required to potentially get into law school. Pre law is not an actual degree at most universities.
posted by Blubble at 9:23 AM on January 23, 2003
posted by Blubble at 9:23 AM on January 23, 2003
"I don't see her as being anywhere near as responsible for this crime as the man."
Right, me either. This guy was in a position of authority, which he abused. He should have known better. Again, he is much older, and most importantly, he is in a position of authority.
posted by lucien at 9:40 AM on January 23, 2003
Right, me either. This guy was in a position of authority, which he abused. He should have known better. Again, he is much older, and most importantly, he is in a position of authority.
posted by lucien at 9:40 AM on January 23, 2003
Witold: Sounds like she got nailed hard already.
A less Fark-like comment: She's 20. I know that's not old, but it is an age where you are considered an adult and the costs and ramifications of your actions are on your own shoulders. Fucking married guys and working on things that are not what you are being paid to work on are not good ideas.
posted by monkeyman at 9:45 AM on January 23, 2003
A less Fark-like comment: She's 20. I know that's not old, but it is an age where you are considered an adult and the costs and ramifications of your actions are on your own shoulders. Fucking married guys and working on things that are not what you are being paid to work on are not good ideas.
posted by monkeyman at 9:45 AM on January 23, 2003
How many young people working as interns will be forced to suffer embarrassment as a result of the misconduct of their employers?
Not the ugly ones, apparently.
posted by rcade at 9:45 AM on January 23, 2003
Not the ugly ones, apparently.
posted by rcade at 9:45 AM on January 23, 2003
Troutfishing seems to be trolling. Can we get over the Bush victory/Gore loss and move on? There's another election next year and if you don't like the current president, vote for someone else.
posted by MediaMan at 9:48 AM on January 23, 2003
posted by MediaMan at 9:48 AM on January 23, 2003
OK. After carefully considering her situation and forming a well-reasoned opinion about it, how many of you googled her? Show of hands?
posted by luser at 9:49 AM on January 23, 2003
posted by luser at 9:49 AM on January 23, 2003
Pre law doesn't mean jack shit. That just means she is planning on taking the bare minimum of classes required to potentially get into law school.
Just to clarify: law schools don't require applicants to take any specific classes or to major in specific subjects.
posted by gyc at 10:09 AM on January 23, 2003
Just to clarify: law schools don't require applicants to take any specific classes or to major in specific subjects.
posted by gyc at 10:09 AM on January 23, 2003
I don't know about you guys, but every time I get a job in a dry cleaners, I find high-profile married men walk in, proposition me, and then offer me a paid job in a respected public institution. Must be my 1989 Honda Civic they crave, right?
If you agree that your 20-year-old daughter should go work for a local prosecutor, is it no longer a reasonable assumption that you're sending her to a relatively safe working environment where her boss won't make sexual advances, and where she won't be directed to engage in illegal activities?
posted by sheauga at 10:16 AM on January 23, 2003
If you agree that your 20-year-old daughter should go work for a local prosecutor, is it no longer a reasonable assumption that you're sending her to a relatively safe working environment where her boss won't make sexual advances, and where she won't be directed to engage in illegal activities?
posted by sheauga at 10:16 AM on January 23, 2003
Alaglan, a prelaw student at Madonna University in Livonia, said she was impressed when McCann flashed his prosecutor's badge at the dry cleaner's in the summer of 2001.
"He said he was looking for interns," said Alaglan, who turned 20 last week. "I didn't think he'd hire me. I'd just finished high school."
Authorities later revealed that the inscription on the badge said FEDERAL BOOB INSPECTOR.
Man, that "looking for interns" line never works for me, I need to get myself a badge.
posted by Stan Chin at 10:17 AM on January 23, 2003
"He said he was looking for interns," said Alaglan, who turned 20 last week. "I didn't think he'd hire me. I'd just finished high school."
Authorities later revealed that the inscription on the badge said FEDERAL BOOB INSPECTOR.
Man, that "looking for interns" line never works for me, I need to get myself a badge.
posted by Stan Chin at 10:17 AM on January 23, 2003
MediaMan - I'd say that you might be trolling. As for Sheauga...I wouldn't say that, but I did feel the need to get in a bit of contrasting perspective. An awful lot of party work gets done on government time, and I'd venture to say that, in Florida, at least half of this behavior is republican. If you want to debate that, I'd be glad to take you up on it. ... As for the 2000 election....well, votes seemed to be beside the point now, didn't they? It's a shame that people like myself haven't forgotten the 2000 election. You might wonder why. they're so stubborn!...refusing to budge, kicking, kicking all the time, like mules, like donkeys...
posted by troutfishing at 11:26 AM on January 23, 2003
posted by troutfishing at 11:26 AM on January 23, 2003
german army corporal: i was told to open the gas valves.
posted by quonsar at 11:32 AM on January 23, 2003
posted by quonsar at 11:32 AM on January 23, 2003
Sheauga-
She's a big girl, and I'm sure she knew why she was being offered the job. The article states that they did not engage in a sexual relationship until over a year after she began working for him.... I'd say that's cruel and unusual punishment. Hell, he gave her a great job, and she made him wait a whole year?
It could also be written from this angle-
Yet another good looking young woman uses her beauty to influence a married man into giving her a job she doesn't deserve.
I'm not saying that this is what happened, only that it could have happened. Your statement is a pretty big leap of faith, based upon what we have in the article.
posted by bradth27 at 11:45 AM on January 23, 2003
She's a big girl, and I'm sure she knew why she was being offered the job. The article states that they did not engage in a sexual relationship until over a year after she began working for him.... I'd say that's cruel and unusual punishment. Hell, he gave her a great job, and she made him wait a whole year?
It could also be written from this angle-
Yet another good looking young woman uses her beauty to influence a married man into giving her a job she doesn't deserve.
I'm not saying that this is what happened, only that it could have happened. Your statement is a pretty big leap of faith, based upon what we have in the article.
posted by bradth27 at 11:45 AM on January 23, 2003
Uh, she's 20. Before that, she was 19. Still makes her an adult to be held accountable for her actions. That she lacked the backbone to stand up to her boss doesn't absolve her of any responsibility for what she did.
Otherwise, I'm never standing up to anyone again just so I can say "It's not my fault!" when I break the law.
posted by tolkhan at 11:46 AM on January 23, 2003
Otherwise, I'm never standing up to anyone again just so I can say "It's not my fault!" when I break the law.
posted by tolkhan at 11:46 AM on January 23, 2003
Great responses!
Mission accomplished. We've flushed out a few potential whistleblowers among us.
Mission accomplished. We've flushed out a few potential whistleblowers among us.
What is a whistleblower?Note that the title here is "20-year-old draws the line." I agree that she drew it too late, and I hope y'all are up to the job when it's your turn.
A whistleblower is any person who makes a report or allegation, known as a disclosure, about improper conduct by public bodies or public officers. The Act defines improper conduct as:
-- corrupt conduct
-- a substantial mismanagement of public resources;
conduct involving substantial risk to public health or safety; or
-- conduct involving substantial risk to environment.
"Destroying reputations has become an essential tool, not only of the new virtual oligarchy, but of anyone who would like to achieve power." - Transparency Nowposted by sheauga at 12:05 PM on January 23, 2003
Okay, yeah, great......
I'm just going to back away real slow, nice and easy.
posted by bradth27 at 12:44 PM on January 23, 2003
I'm just going to back away real slow, nice and easy.
posted by bradth27 at 12:44 PM on January 23, 2003
I'd have to agree with bradth27. The angle he describes is my reaction to the article just as much as the man abusing his position of power. She has to be stupid to think that her looks aren't part of the reason she got the job, and she stuck with the job as long as she did. I'm sure this is a common occurence in life, but the intern is just as guilty for abusing an advantage that is completely non-related to the job.
posted by swank6 at 2:56 PM on January 23, 2003
posted by swank6 at 2:56 PM on January 23, 2003
"There's another election next year and if you don't like the current president, vote for someone else."
But the damage will have already been done by then. Troll that.
posted by LouReedsSon at 9:19 PM on January 23, 2003
But the damage will have already been done by then. Troll that.
posted by LouReedsSon at 9:19 PM on January 23, 2003
Hot, young girl working at the dry cleaner -- absolutely attainable -- but a hot former mistress with her own lawyer, her name in the paper...and a whistle-blower no less? Thanks to this bastard prosecutor, she's now out of my league.
On a more serious note, this took place in the County government. Who cares about counties? Especially in Detroit. It's not like they're going to smuggle nuclear weapons to terrorists or anything. I say: Let them have some fun.
I just hope the guy made some money off that database. If you're going to break the law, you might as well go all the way. Half-assed crime is worse than no crime in my book.
posted by son_of_minya at 5:02 AM on January 24, 2003
On a more serious note, this took place in the County government. Who cares about counties? Especially in Detroit. It's not like they're going to smuggle nuclear weapons to terrorists or anything. I say: Let them have some fun.
I just hope the guy made some money off that database. If you're going to break the law, you might as well go all the way. Half-assed crime is worse than no crime in my book.
posted by son_of_minya at 5:02 AM on January 24, 2003
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posted by IshmaelGraves at 10:18 AM on January 24, 2003
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posted by IshmaelGraves at 10:18 AM on January 24, 2003
bradth27--thanks for the golden strand in a gordian thread
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