Blah blah blah liberal, Bush hating Mefi, blah blah blah, I don't care
March 8, 2004 9:47 PM   Subscribe

Paul Krugman spells out the insanity of the Bush Administration simply, sweetly, inarguably. Blah blah blah liberal, Bush hating Mefi, blah blah blah, I don't care. This administration is so utterly dishonest, and our current press corps so disgustingly subserviant that I really don't care how bad an FPP this is. Krugman doesn't lie no matter what that idiot Donald Luskin says. Someone point me to a real, honest, defensible source that says Krugman's utter destruction of just about everything Bush is wrong. In my opinion, he along with Bob Somerby are lonely voices in a vast wilderness. Blah blah blah, liberal mefi crap blah blah blah
posted by McBain (30 comments total)

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You know, I think this post could have been phrased less polemically, but blah blah blah.
posted by namespan at 9:50 PM on March 8, 2004


blah blah blah, I don't give a shit.
posted by McBain at 9:52 PM on March 8, 2004


I really don't care how bad an FPP this is.

We, on the other hand, do. You may have contempt for the Bushites (I'm with you there), but must you also display contempt for the community?

[this is bad]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:52 PM on March 8, 2004


basically I don't give two shits how biased my FPP is. Someone point out how Krugman is wrong. That is my challenge. Otherwise, keep your "liberal bias" mouth shut.
posted by McBain at 9:54 PM on March 8, 2004


basically I don't give two shits how biased my FPP is. Someone point out how Krugman is wrong. That is my challenge. Otherwise, keep your "liberal bias" mouth shut.

Or, matt could simply delete this thread. Either way.
posted by delmoi at 9:55 PM on March 8, 2004


MetaFilter: blah blah blah, I don't care.
posted by homunculus at 9:56 PM on March 8, 2004


The sad thing is, it looks like a good graph, McBain, and I actually agree with your politics here, and the posting of the alternative viewpoint was even somewhat chivalrous. Why the other crapola and display of contempt when courtesy would have made this a decent FPP?
posted by namespan at 9:57 PM on March 8, 2004


shit frosting for a perfectly good brownie, in other words...
posted by namespan at 9:58 PM on March 8, 2004


I feel your frustration, McBain.

This is hardly the best example of Krugman's destruction of Bush's economic policy. I especially liked the following from this piece last week (though it attacks Greenspan, that quisling, and not Bush):

Mr. Greenspan pushed through an increase in taxes on working Americans, generating a Social Security surplus. Then he used that surplus to argue for tax cuts that deliver very little relief to most people, but are worth a lot to those making more than $300,000 a year. And now that those tax cuts have contributed to a soaring deficit, he wants to cut Social Security benefits.

Sometimes, there is little place for "balance" in writing, and when confronting a set of economic policies so manifestly evil, writing that refuses to tell the brutal truth in the name of "balance" really sacrifices objectivity for mainstream palatability.
posted by Dasein at 9:59 PM on March 8, 2004


I'm the last one to talk nonsense about 'liberal bias'. No one mentioned that except you, McBain.

Meta.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:59 PM on March 8, 2004


Because no matter how it was phrased, there would have been "More Bush bashing!" talk. I'm really tired of that, so I'm heading it off by saying "I don't care, don't bother".

I think the point is sound and I'm not trying to be rude. But I'm really sick of people saying "Bushfilter", "Outragefilter" blah blah blah....
posted by McBain at 9:59 PM on March 8, 2004


I want to co-opt this community website to further my own agenda! I hate squirrels, and it's time you all hated squirrels with me!!! Anyone who doesn't hate squirrels, I don't care, blah, blah, blah!!
posted by jonson at 10:00 PM on March 8, 2004


Otherwise, keep your "liberal bias" mouth shut.

Of course, much as I feel your frustration, you should show a little more respect to everyone else here, including our wonderchicken friend.
posted by Dasein at 10:00 PM on March 8, 2004


Jonson, yes, I've totally terrorized and co-opted this community!!! All your base are belong to us!

I never intended to disrespect people here, I just wanted to head off bullshit mefi conservative apathy that didn't directly address the points made.

Yes a Krugman column is probably not the greatest FPP. I wanted to share my feelings though and this is an outlet for me.
posted by McBain at 10:05 PM on March 8, 2004


blah blah blah is the new yadda yadda yadda.
posted by wendell at 10:08 PM on March 8, 2004


Fuck it, be rude. I'm with you McBain. I don't care who you voted for, what political persuation you are or whether or not you thought Clinton was the second coming. Bush and his cronies are wrong, cynical and the worst thing that has happened to the USA since, since.....well shit, I haven't been around long enought to think of anything else American made that has been this bad. I've felt pretty hopeless about politics and the "direction" of the general populous and collective political thought since the chads were found hanging.

At this point, I say by any means neccesary.
posted by photoslob at 10:09 PM on March 8, 2004


I wanted to share my feelings though and this is an outlet for me.

"Sharing our feelings" is not what mefi is for, certainly not what an FPP is for. That's why we have friends/partners/spouses/pets/mirrors/therapists. Mefi is not your outlet, dude.
posted by Dasein at 10:11 PM on March 8, 2004


"Sharing our feelings" is not what mefi is for, certainly not what an FPP is for. That's why we have friends/partners/spouses/pets/mirrors/therapists. Mefi is not your outlet, dude.

Then you and I see the purpose of arguing fruitlessly on the internet totally differently.
posted by McBain at 10:16 PM on March 8, 2004


In a thread is one thing. Posts require a little more care.
posted by Dasein at 10:17 PM on March 8, 2004


I never intended to disrespect people here, I just wanted to head off bullshit mefi conservative apathy that didn't directly address the points made.

Wow, you really did a good job of that, I mean. I mean the conversation is totaly on topic with no bitching about anything!
posted by delmoi at 10:18 PM on March 8, 2004




Wow, you really did a good job of that, I mean. I mean the conversation is totaly on topic with no bitching about anything!


This made me laugh.

Maybe people should think about the culture they've created that made me post in such a distrustful manner? :-)
posted by McBain at 10:21 PM on March 8, 2004


I think the main issue with this FPP is that FPPs should not come pre-opinionated. Telling everybody what their opinion is going to be before we get a chance to RTFA preemptively destroys the discussion and makes you look like an insensitive clod. Posting your feelings on conservative rhetoric would be more appropriate in the discussion and not the description of the FPP.

However, I agree with the FPP whole-heartedly. It was just lacking in tact.
posted by fatbobsmith at 10:21 PM on March 8, 2004


Hot Damn Mcbain, SOmeone with guts, And they bit.... That being said, I do loath NY times links, But a good read anyway.

I forget am I for or against Quonsar?

Oh Well Up the Proletariat!
posted by Elim at 10:24 PM on March 8, 2004


Uhm, is the linked article really only three paragraphs?
posted by xmutex at 10:25 PM on March 8, 2004


Wait wait, that is his whole Op/Ed? 196 words?

Man, I need to get a job at the NYTimes....
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 10:25 PM on March 8, 2004


Wait a minute.

The Bush Administration lied to us?

Now I'm pissed!
posted by mr_crash_davis at 10:26 PM on March 8, 2004


Uhm, is the linked article really only three paragraphs?

Wait wait, that is his whole Op/Ed? 196 words?

Kind of the point.
posted by McBain at 10:28 PM on March 8, 2004


Why didn't anyone tell me?
posted by pizzasub at 10:29 PM on March 8, 2004


Maybe people should think about the culture they've created that made me post in such a distrustful manner?

Ahhh, a liberal concept if ever I've heard one.
posted by justgary at 10:36 PM on March 8, 2004


The Bush Administration lied to us?

That depends on what the meaning of "to" is....
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 10:36 PM on March 8, 2004


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