pete the porno puppet
April 8, 2004 7:46 PM Subscribe
If you caught the Daily Show the other night, you might have seen the segment featuring a couple goofballs and "pete the porno puppet" trying to convert folks at an adult film convention. Their site, at xxxchurch.com, boasts "the #1 christian porn site" and like any porn site, they even get their share of hate mail. The guys behind it seem to have a good sense of humor, even though they're sure that porn is "not what God intended for us."
I saw the show and was convinced the whole thing is a joke.
It is a joke right?
posted by photoslob at 8:22 PM on April 8, 2004
It is a joke right?
posted by photoslob at 8:22 PM on April 8, 2004
so, whats the #2 christian porn site?
wait, I found it!
posted by mcsweetie at 9:34 PM on April 8, 2004
wait, I found it!
posted by mcsweetie at 9:34 PM on April 8, 2004
mcsweetie's contribution makes me feel "all yucky inside." That memorable phrase actually does describe my first encounter with porn at the age of 10. Daddy, why are those people playing that weird game of ring around the rosie? And what's a "daisy chain?" It's kind of sad to have to start thinking about boinking as a nasty, loveless, sick and twisted thing at that age.
So what the hell, more power to 'em. Onward, Christian culture jammers. Perhaps they should take up spamming themselves, taking a page from the porno playbook: If I had to choose between the two, I think I'd rather be pestered by the virtual equivalent of polite Jehovah's Witnesses on the subway than the digital fascimile of switchblade-wielding corner hookers straight of out Ry Cooder's "Down in Hollywood" ...
posted by hairyeyeball at 9:59 PM on April 8, 2004
So what the hell, more power to 'em. Onward, Christian culture jammers. Perhaps they should take up spamming themselves, taking a page from the porno playbook: If I had to choose between the two, I think I'd rather be pestered by the virtual equivalent of polite Jehovah's Witnesses on the subway than the digital fascimile of switchblade-wielding corner hookers straight of out Ry Cooder's "Down in Hollywood" ...
posted by hairyeyeball at 9:59 PM on April 8, 2004
*opens can of worms*
Hell, the Passion of The Christ was violence-porn at it's very best!
*runs away*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:24 PM on April 8, 2004
Hell, the Passion of The Christ was violence-porn at it's very best!
*runs away*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:24 PM on April 8, 2004
Oh honestly. If we'd stop treating the body like it's something dirty, then perhaps we'd all have a much healtier culture. I read a lot...and even in victorian novels, there are mentions of things that boys collected like racy playing cards and whatnot. Now, would it be porn by our standards? No. (I mean, this was the culture that covered piano legs for goodness sake.)
As kids hit physical maturity...which happens significantly earlier than the law allows, they're going to start checking things out. I seriously doubt that Playboy is going to corrupt a teenager. It's just masturbation. It's no bid deal.
(Although, I'll grant that 10 is too young...)
posted by dejah420 at 10:53 PM on April 8, 2004
As kids hit physical maturity...which happens significantly earlier than the law allows, they're going to start checking things out. I seriously doubt that Playboy is going to corrupt a teenager. It's just masturbation. It's no bid deal.
(Although, I'll grant that 10 is too young...)
posted by dejah420 at 10:53 PM on April 8, 2004
Hell, the Passion of The Christ was violence-porn at it's very best!
Actually, no.
posted by homunculus at 11:01 PM on April 8, 2004
Actually, no.
posted by homunculus at 11:01 PM on April 8, 2004
Actually, no.
Actually, yes. By 'violence porn' I was using a shorthand for the idea that not only sexual activity but violent activity (or food, if you want) can be presented in a way that is pornographic, in the sense that the main purpose of pornographic material is to arouse, and arousal need not merely be sexual.
It's a foolish stretch, as the tunnelvisioned author of the piece to which you link, homunculus, to suggest that the sense in which The Passion of the Christ was pornographic was a sexual one. That's not what I was implying.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:29 PM on April 8, 2004
Actually, yes. By 'violence porn' I was using a shorthand for the idea that not only sexual activity but violent activity (or food, if you want) can be presented in a way that is pornographic, in the sense that the main purpose of pornographic material is to arouse, and arousal need not merely be sexual.
It's a foolish stretch, as the tunnelvisioned author of the piece to which you link, homunculus, to suggest that the sense in which The Passion of the Christ was pornographic was a sexual one. That's not what I was implying.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:29 PM on April 8, 2004
Wait... that link about the Passion and BDSM was not satire?
posted by Krrrlson at 11:50 PM on April 8, 2004
posted by Krrrlson at 11:50 PM on April 8, 2004
If it was, I've been punked.
*shakes fist at homunculus*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:55 PM on April 8, 2004
*shakes fist at homunculus*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:55 PM on April 8, 2004
The really bizarre thing on that site is the "x3watch accountability software". It looks like some kind of voluntarily installed spyware that "makes a log of the porno site and then every two or four weeks your two designated accountability partners will get an email listing all the skin sites you've been on." I'm going to have to assume that there is some kind of developmental retardation responsible for this. Has anyone checked the water in Fullerton for contaminants?
posted by snarfodox at 12:04 AM on April 9, 2004
posted by snarfodox at 12:04 AM on April 9, 2004
Oh yeah, and I heard that they torture small animals too.
posted by snarfodox at 1:08 AM on April 9, 2004
posted by snarfodox at 1:08 AM on April 9, 2004
(I mean, this was the culture that covered piano legs for goodness sake.)
Actually, the "piano legs" story, spread by Capt. Marryat, was an attack on American sexual prudishness. Victorian Brits thought that their own women knew the difference between true modesty and, well, the American version.
As Victorianist Terry L. Meyers discovered, even a major Victorian poet like Swinburne can fall afoul of decency laws (also here).
posted by thomas j wise at 4:20 AM on April 9, 2004
Actually, the "piano legs" story, spread by Capt. Marryat, was an attack on American sexual prudishness. Victorian Brits thought that their own women knew the difference between true modesty and, well, the American version.
As Victorianist Terry L. Meyers discovered, even a major Victorian poet like Swinburne can fall afoul of decency laws (also here).
posted by thomas j wise at 4:20 AM on April 9, 2004
I did see the skit and thought it was pretty funny...and I have no problem with the two guys spreading their message. You have to give them some props for taking their message right into the cleavage of the enemy.
As far as Daily Show brilliance, did anybody see the parody skit of Hannity and Colmes using the 3 little kids yesterday? Comedy platinum.
posted by vito90 at 6:20 AM on April 9, 2004
As far as Daily Show brilliance, did anybody see the parody skit of Hannity and Colmes using the 3 little kids yesterday? Comedy platinum.
posted by vito90 at 6:20 AM on April 9, 2004
Now that some interesting stuff, thanks Matt.
I just gave a look and here are my first impressions :
The site appears to be reframing porno from repressive fear inducing attitude (masturbate and you'll become blind, sex is bad and evil, sex is sin) typical of ultrazealots. Rather they encourage to talk about porn and offer their vision "not what God intended for us".
So far so good...it's a different approach to what they see as a problem (porno).
They're also using some marketing trick all over the place
1) The Puppet: not aggressive, k12 stuff aimed both to k12 but also to adults.
2) The "My experience with porn" : people talking about how bad was porn for them (2 actors out of 6 billion people ?)
Now that would be all good and fine _so far_ for me, but the presence of a religious faith behind this kind of psycological approach is troubling ; I'd rather have people that isn't likely to go all propaganda-faith in snap behind the idea.
posted by elpapacito at 8:31 AM on April 9, 2004
I just gave a look and here are my first impressions :
The site appears to be reframing porno from repressive fear inducing attitude (masturbate and you'll become blind, sex is bad and evil, sex is sin) typical of ultrazealots. Rather they encourage to talk about porn and offer their vision "not what God intended for us".
So far so good...it's a different approach to what they see as a problem (porno).
They're also using some marketing trick all over the place
1) The Puppet: not aggressive, k12 stuff aimed both to k12 but also to adults.
2) The "My experience with porn" : people talking about how bad was porn for them (2 actors out of 6 billion people ?)
Now that would be all good and fine _so far_ for me, but the presence of a religious faith behind this kind of psycological approach is troubling ; I'd rather have people that isn't likely to go all propaganda-faith in snap behind the idea.
posted by elpapacito at 8:31 AM on April 9, 2004
I saw the show and was convinced the whole thing is a joke.
It is a joke right?
So not a joke . . . I ran into them at the Adult Entertainment Expo in 2003 where they had a booth. They were funny and completely sincere. I talked to them for a bit and they said their humor disarms folks in "the industry" and they end up helping quite a few people looking to get out. Props to Christians with humor.
posted by donovan at 8:37 AM on April 9, 2004
It is a joke right?
So not a joke . . . I ran into them at the Adult Entertainment Expo in 2003 where they had a booth. They were funny and completely sincere. I talked to them for a bit and they said their humor disarms folks in "the industry" and they end up helping quite a few people looking to get out. Props to Christians with humor.
posted by donovan at 8:37 AM on April 9, 2004
But did anyone notice, when they interviewed the other porn director (not the one that shot the video for the xxxchurch asshats), what was on his computer screen?
Fark.com
Metafilter: We'd rather watch
posted by m@ at 8:58 AM on April 9, 2004
Fark.com
Metafilter: We'd rather watch
posted by m@ at 8:58 AM on April 9, 2004
Teenagers don't listen to puppets. Basically, anyone over the age of 6 who hears a puppet tell it to do something will invariably do the opposite.
I suspect these gentlemen of being double agents for Larry Flynt.
posted by Sidhedevil at 2:32 PM on April 9, 2004
I suspect these gentlemen of being double agents for Larry Flynt.
posted by Sidhedevil at 2:32 PM on April 9, 2004
mcsweetie's contribution makes me feel "all yucky inside." That memorable phrase actually does describe my first encounter with porn at the age of 10.
I saw my first porn around age 8. It was a Penthouse someone had left in the woods behind a freinds house. I don't think we quite knew what we were looking at, but we knew we weren't supposed to be seeing it. The kid up the street had an older brother who had a stash of the usual softcore suspects that we peeked at from time to time. The more we knew and the older we got the more fun it got.
I didn't see an actual real live naked woman till I was almost 19. There goes the link betwen porn and sexual activity.
Oddly, it's only as an adult that porn has made me feel any kind of "yucky inside" (aside from patently yucky inside stuff like scat, bukkake etc). Sometimes, I'll see a picture of some girl flashing her boobs at the camera, and while I can still appreciate them aesthetically and all that, I also have this weird feeling like she's pointing a weapon at me or something. What this means I don't know.
posted by jonmc at 8:53 PM on April 9, 2004
I saw my first porn around age 8. It was a Penthouse someone had left in the woods behind a freinds house. I don't think we quite knew what we were looking at, but we knew we weren't supposed to be seeing it. The kid up the street had an older brother who had a stash of the usual softcore suspects that we peeked at from time to time. The more we knew and the older we got the more fun it got.
I didn't see an actual real live naked woman till I was almost 19. There goes the link betwen porn and sexual activity.
Oddly, it's only as an adult that porn has made me feel any kind of "yucky inside" (aside from patently yucky inside stuff like scat, bukkake etc). Sometimes, I'll see a picture of some girl flashing her boobs at the camera, and while I can still appreciate them aesthetically and all that, I also have this weird feeling like she's pointing a weapon at me or something. What this means I don't know.
posted by jonmc at 8:53 PM on April 9, 2004
It is astonishing how many people -- men, mostly -- have had those kind of 'found porn' experiences. I wrote about it a while back.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:18 PM on April 9, 2004
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:18 PM on April 9, 2004
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