Daily Reason to Dispatch Bush
May 18, 2004 11:02 AM Subscribe
Facts don't stand a chance against the mighty force of white people yelling at each other on television.
posted by xmutex at 11:33 AM on May 18, 2004
posted by xmutex at 11:33 AM on May 18, 2004
It got killed when I FPP'ed it but this mosaic of Bush made up of pics of dead soldiers is several hundred good reasons to dispatch Bush.
The smear campaign continues unabated but it seems like the mud just isn't sticking to Kerry as well anymore. Has the GOP shot all their best barbs already?
It bothered me that an instant poll online had Kerry ahead of Bush but people still thought Bush would win the election. How can people be so blinded to the reality that this man is a cancer?
posted by fenriq at 11:39 AM on May 18, 2004
The smear campaign continues unabated but it seems like the mud just isn't sticking to Kerry as well anymore. Has the GOP shot all their best barbs already?
It bothered me that an instant poll online had Kerry ahead of Bush but people still thought Bush would win the election. How can people be so blinded to the reality that this man is a cancer?
posted by fenriq at 11:39 AM on May 18, 2004
Never forget: people are stupid.
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:52 AM on May 18, 2004
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:52 AM on May 18, 2004
This is all preaching to the choir, but it's interesting in that there's no mention of Iraq...
posted by mkultra at 11:58 AM on May 18, 2004
posted by mkultra at 11:58 AM on May 18, 2004
I think that Dave Eggers's brother works directly for Bush. Maybe indirectly. I seem to remember hearing about the connection on This American Life. Anyone else remember this?
posted by ColdChef at 12:31 PM on May 18, 2004
posted by ColdChef at 12:31 PM on May 18, 2004
It bothered me that an instant poll online had Kerry ahead of Bush but people still thought Bush would win the election
Well, Gore was ahead of Bush but Bush still "won" the election.
posted by Nelson at 1:19 PM on May 18, 2004
Well, Gore was ahead of Bush but Bush still "won" the election.
posted by Nelson at 1:19 PM on May 18, 2004
Does anyone else feel like this is a bit too, I don't know, pedestrian, or literal, for McSweeney's? I'm not opining on the content, just my surprise that McSweeney's decided to go with straight political advocacy.
posted by pardonyou? at 1:54 PM on May 18, 2004
posted by pardonyou? at 1:54 PM on May 18, 2004
Apparently we have reached the outer limits of irony.
Not there's anything wrong with that, mind you.
posted by scody at 2:04 PM on May 18, 2004
Not there's anything wrong with that, mind you.
posted by scody at 2:04 PM on May 18, 2004
Does anyone else feel like this is a bit too, I don't know, pedestrian, or literal, for McSweeney's?
I was struck by this too. After 911, we were in the post-ironic age. That got tired after awhile and then we were in the post-post-ironic age. Now, the satirists have abandoned irony as they can't top anything that the current administration is actually doing, so that makes this the post^3-ironic age.
Perhaps the half-life of irony might make for a useful measure of cultural memes.
posted by rks404 at 2:12 PM on May 18, 2004
I was struck by this too. After 911, we were in the post-ironic age. That got tired after awhile and then we were in the post-post-ironic age. Now, the satirists have abandoned irony as they can't top anything that the current administration is actually doing, so that makes this the post^3-ironic age.
Perhaps the half-life of irony might make for a useful measure of cultural memes.
posted by rks404 at 2:12 PM on May 18, 2004
Does anyone else feel like this is a bit too, I don't know, pedestrian, or literal, for McSweeney's?
Nobody should be above pointing out the ignorance and inhuamnity of both George Bush and his entire administration. I don't know how anyone could read a list of some of the astoundingly cold and intellectually infantile things about that man and simply come to the conclusion that perhaps they should have portrayed it less literally. It's only too bad there aren't dozens of mainstream outlets that have outlined these same issues ad nauseum until the notoriously slow viewing public started to catch on. These are things people need to hear.
posted by The God Complex at 2:26 PM on May 18, 2004
Nobody should be above pointing out the ignorance and inhuamnity of both George Bush and his entire administration. I don't know how anyone could read a list of some of the astoundingly cold and intellectually infantile things about that man and simply come to the conclusion that perhaps they should have portrayed it less literally. It's only too bad there aren't dozens of mainstream outlets that have outlined these same issues ad nauseum until the notoriously slow viewing public started to catch on. These are things people need to hear.
posted by The God Complex at 2:26 PM on May 18, 2004
Election? What election? Bush doesn't have to win a damn thing.
Everyone who's anyone has already penned an election-postponement (due to an expected act of terrorism) into their schedules. Quoth an unnamed Whiter House official, "We're not going to allow terrorists to take down the government the way they did in Spain".
posted by troutfishing at 3:08 PM on May 18, 2004
Everyone who's anyone has already penned an election-postponement (due to an expected act of terrorism) into their schedules. Quoth an unnamed Whiter House official, "We're not going to allow terrorists to take down the government the way they did in Spain".
posted by troutfishing at 3:08 PM on May 18, 2004
troutfishing, should I just plan on going to the beach instead on election day?
Or isn't that just what the GOP wants me to do?
posted by fenriq at 3:47 PM on May 18, 2004
Or isn't that just what the GOP wants me to do?
posted by fenriq at 3:47 PM on May 18, 2004
I will personally get Squeaky Fromme on anyone who stops the elections in November. If my city is a smoking crater, us survivors will hold elections (actually, especially then.) I don't think i'd be alone either.
posted by amberglow at 3:53 PM on May 18, 2004
posted by amberglow at 3:53 PM on May 18, 2004
an election-postponement (due to an expected act of terrorism)
Holy crap, troutfishing! Some friends of mine last weekend were saying that someone should put together a pool to guess how many days before the election we'd "capture" Osama bin Laden. I thought they were darkly cycnical, but you've made them look like amateurs.
// Back on Topic
The McSweeney's post may be more overt than other things he's done, but the tone, pacing, and methodical nature of the piece is entirely consistent with other posts and not out of place, IMHO.
posted by stevis at 3:58 PM on May 18, 2004
Holy crap, troutfishing! Some friends of mine last weekend were saying that someone should put together a pool to guess how many days before the election we'd "capture" Osama bin Laden. I thought they were darkly cycnical, but you've made them look like amateurs.
// Back on Topic
The McSweeney's post may be more overt than other things he's done, but the tone, pacing, and methodical nature of the piece is entirely consistent with other posts and not out of place, IMHO.
posted by stevis at 3:58 PM on May 18, 2004
stevis, I've long held the belief that Bush has had Osama in custody for months now and is just waiting until he needs to "capture" him.
Heck, I wouldn't put it past Bush to stage the capture so that he himself could catch him and be a "real hero". Bleh.
posted by fenriq at 4:13 PM on May 18, 2004
Heck, I wouldn't put it past Bush to stage the capture so that he himself could catch him and be a "real hero". Bleh.
posted by fenriq at 4:13 PM on May 18, 2004
fenriq - can you verify that that mosaic photo is bona-fide? I'm not asking for bomb-proof 100% certain, but in any way at all? I'm really suspicious, ultra-lefty though I may be, that it is bunk. No one seems to know who made it, even though the task of gathering mugshots of every American killed in Afghanistan & Iraq is no small feat at all. How does one even begin to get a hold of the names, much less the photos? Is it Iraq only? Or Afghanistan and Iraq? No one seems to know the answers to these questions. I find myself practically sure that if someone had actually gone to the trouble of finding out all the facts, assembling the photos, and then creating the mosaic, they would have probably bothered to present it on the web in some more meaningful, factually informative way. You don't go to all that trouble and then just pipe it out as an email attachment.
posted by scarabic at 6:44 PM on May 18, 2004
posted by scarabic at 6:44 PM on May 18, 2004
(not least because it's probably the least imaginative thing you could do if you knew all the names and had all the photos. Wouldn't some kind of online memorial monument be more effective and have more impact - not to mention be more respectful?)
posted by scarabic at 6:47 PM on May 18, 2004
posted by scarabic at 6:47 PM on May 18, 2004
I think msnbc has all the photos on their site--and stars and stripes too.
posted by amberglow at 6:51 PM on May 18, 2004
posted by amberglow at 6:51 PM on May 18, 2004
No one seems to know who made it
Well, according to the second comment on the page fenriq linked to, this guy did.
posted by ook at 11:54 PM on May 18, 2004
Well, according to the second comment on the page fenriq linked to, this guy did.
posted by ook at 11:54 PM on May 18, 2004
I think it's great. it explains simply what many of us have been too angry to, without hyperbole or "bush is evil!!!"isms.
posted by mcsweetie at 8:56 AM on May 19, 2004
posted by mcsweetie at 8:56 AM on May 19, 2004
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maybe it's the pessimist in me, but i've given up hope of convincing americans with facts. it seems to breeze right over our heads.
posted by mrgrimm at 11:30 AM on May 18, 2004