Meltdown on CNN
July 8, 2004 6:06 AM   Subscribe

Andrew Dice Clay loses it on CNN/fn. Just lovely. Don't have any details on this but it's worth a look.
posted by coudal (44 comments total)
Now that is one shell-shocked anchorman.
posted by Songdog at 6:11 AM on July 8, 2004

Publicity stunt. It will get him attention for five minutes and he'll climb back into his unfunny hole, which is probably decorated with stuff from his 1988 heyday.
posted by Mayor Curley at 6:12 AM on July 8, 2004

I've seen this before, but I can't remember the circumstances. I think it was because he had a new show on one of the networks that lasted about 4 weeks. This would have been a year or two ago (I'm guessing).

I imagined it at the time as just a publicity stunt. I think this was during the stage that Dice had supposedly "turned nice" and then was trying to pull a "gotcha" and tell everyone he was never really nice, it was all a joke and a sham, and everyone is a fucking moron for even believing it.

Kinda like something Andy Kaufman would do, except that Dice is no Andy Kaufman.
posted by Ynoxas at 6:13 AM on July 8, 2004

ooo, andrew said the f word ... i am so fucking shocked ... who'd have thought it from him?

lost it? he never had it
posted by pyramid termite at 6:31 AM on July 8, 2004 this Andrew Dice Clay you speak of?
posted by Dr_Octavius at 6:37 AM on July 8, 2004

This shows the terrible influence Vice President Cheney is having on today's young, impressionable has-beens.
posted by soyjoy at 6:39 AM on July 8, 2004

I am reminded of the words spoken by Triumph the Insult Comic Dog to Gilbert Godfrey:

"You call this a career, man?"
posted by psmealey at 6:41 AM on July 8, 2004

Yahoo reports, "Following his fall from grace in Hollywood, Clay moved his wife and two boys to Florida for a couple years where he ran a Gold's Gym and underwent therapy."
posted by inksyndicate at 6:43 AM on July 8, 2004

What is the "Art Carney situation"?
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 6:45 AM on July 8, 2004

Just to nitpick, psmealy, unlike Clay, Gottfried is respected by his fellow comedians, still can pack a room, and still gets work in voice-over studios. In fact, that's actually a pretty good career.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 6:49 AM on July 8, 2004

Hey, come awn Zquzyphyr, I was re-using the line to roast the Dice Man, not criticizing GG, that was Triumph's thing.
posted by psmealey at 6:52 AM on July 8, 2004

still can pack a room

I'm not being snarky or obtuse, but people pay to see Gilbert Gottfried? Seriously?
posted by jpoulos at 7:12 AM on July 8, 2004

Now that's shocking.
posted by rushmc at 7:18 AM on July 8, 2004

Well, interestingly enough, if you watch the video, you'll hear Andrew say to the reporter, "every time I do an interview, guy wants to open his fucking mouth. can't even do a little routine here."

I think he was trying to do the role of Andrew Dice Clay (cause that's what he's trying to do - make a comeback), and the reporter was trying to speak to the private person behind the act. Of course, he didn't want to talk about himself, he wanted to be Andrew Dice Clay.

I don't know if that was a miscommunication between him and CNNfn or part of the routine, but I have to say, it seemed less like a publicity 'stunt' and more like a miscommunication where he tried to maintain his focus on staying in character.
posted by PigAlien at 7:22 AM on July 8, 2004

From what I understand, GG has an entirely different reputation in "comic" circles than he does in the broader world. (I thought he was great in "Aladdin", but most of his work in TV and movies has been pretty lame.)

If you go back to that "Aristocrats" FPP of a little while ago, you can get better sense of how he's more of a "comic's comic". He's kind of like the last of the Buddy Hackett breed...innocuous and goofy public persona, but unbelievably profane and crude live.
posted by LairBob at 7:24 AM on July 8, 2004

What's the definition of a vagina?...

How about the definition of a dick?
posted by Samuel Farrow at 7:26 AM on July 8, 2004

of course, I don't know how much the 'real' ADC overlaps with the character...
posted by PigAlien at 7:26 AM on July 8, 2004

Now if Dice had done the Aristocrats on CNN/fn....
posted by PenDevil at 7:26 AM on July 8, 2004

I saw the Art Carney Situation play at Maxwell's in Hoboken in '93. Their played a few songs and then just did this like feedback thing for about 45 minutes. Awesome.

Since it doesn't deserve its own FPP, here's a video of Glen Danzig getting coldcocked by some fat guy.
posted by dhoyt at 7:28 AM on July 8, 2004

if they're talking about the "art carney situation", wouldn't this be fairly old? since carney died a few months ago and all. it doesn't make sense that we'd hear about it now, in any event.
posted by pxe2000 at 7:35 AM on July 8, 2004

I think the real problem here is that CNNfn is so hard up for people to talk to that they're bringing in Andrew Dice Fucking Clay Of All People as a guest.

What, was Joe Rogan busy?
posted by chicobangs at 7:44 AM on July 8, 2004

you can't be a has-been if you are a never-was.
posted by crunchland at 8:05 AM on July 8, 2004

It appears this happened November of 2003.

So I overestimated in my first post about how long ago it had been, but this is quite dated nonetheless.
posted by Ynoxas at 8:08 AM on July 8, 2004

What is the "Art Carney situation"?

I think they were an early '90s novelty grunge band with a couple of singles out on Sub Pop.
posted by spilon at 8:34 AM on July 8, 2004

crunchland, he was selling out stadiums for this stuff once upon a time. It was for about 20 minutes in 1988, true, but still.

Hell, there's even been an E! True Hollywood Story about him. The guy has, in fact, been.
posted by chicobangs at 8:43 AM on July 8, 2004

The Art Carney situation (scroll down)
posted by inksyndicate at 8:44 AM on July 8, 2004

Art Carney is Andrew Dice Clay in "Dice: The Gym Owner Years"
posted by Outlawyr at 8:50 AM on July 8, 2004

Andrew Dice Clay? Bah. Good riddance. Profanity can be very funny, but not if it's the entire act. Clay wore out his 'novelty' and welcome many years ago.

Re Gilbert Gottlieb, LairBob is right on - check out putzface's helpful link to the Friar Club Roasts of the past few years.
posted by widdershins at 9:02 AM on July 8, 2004

"I'm not being snarky or obtuse, but people pay to see Gilbert Gottfried? Seriously?"

I actually read that in Gilbert Gottfried's voice. I still am. I'm reading everything on Metafilter in Gilbert Gottfried's voice now.

Help me.
posted by jennyb at 9:10 AM on July 8, 2004

Stand-up-comics as earworms? Not that there's anything wrong with that. (a phrase that's almost impossible to say in anything BUT Jerry Seinfeld's voice...)
If all else fails, think of John Kerry's voice...
posted by wendell at 9:17 AM on July 8, 2004

Gilbert Godfrey has enjoyed an excellent career as a stand-up comic among other things. The problem is that people judge the success of a stand-up comic by how many sitcoms they have which can be two totally different things.
posted by LouieLoco at 9:35 AM on July 8, 2004

I never heard of Gilbert Godfrey.
posted by mischief at 9:55 AM on July 8, 2004

so what was up with the delay? is CNN/fn gonna get fined $50 jillion or whatever it is now? i haven't been paying much attention to that whole FCC penalties thing ...

(it looks like everybody and his brother is dying to see danzig get coldcocked)

i thought Gilbert Gottfr*ied* was an idiot too, but i grew up with USA Up All Night. he definitely gets some points of some sort for his performance at Hefner's roast (scroll down to "Ice-T Did My Act")
posted by mrgrimm at 10:17 AM on July 8, 2004

I'm not being snarky or obtuse, but people pay to see Gilbert Gottfried? Seriously?

Jesus, yes... Gottfried is just absolutely killer when he is doing his own act, as opposed to voice work, movies, tv or commercials. Like, cannot stop laughing, cannot breathe type of funny.
posted by Hildago at 10:34 AM on July 8, 2004

I defer to the better judgment of Mefi (and begin furiously searching for mp3s of Gottfried's act)!
posted by jpoulos at 10:59 AM on July 8, 2004

I find Gottfried's standup funny, too--my brother and I still crack each other up with his skit about Gandhi being on a TV talk show...

"Say, Mohandas! How do you stay so slim? Any diet tips for our audience?"
posted by Sidhedevil at 11:30 AM on July 8, 2004

Gilbert was in Diceman's movie The Adventures Of Ford Fairlaine. I think alot of people go overboard on this guy, he's just a fucking comic. It's not like he's almost a President, so go "fuck yourselves!"
posted by joemeek at 11:35 AM on July 8, 2004

I'll take some of the responsbility for taking this thread off topic with the Gilbert Gottfried thing. To atone for it, I'll try to wrap it up with Kevin Bacon type link. Gilbert Gottfried worked with Jerry Ohrbach in "Alladin" -> Jerry worked with Jennifer Jason Leigh in "Last Exit to Brooklyn" -> Jennifer Jason worked with Tim Robbins in "Hudsucker Proxy" -> Tim Robbins worked with John Cusack in "the Sure Thing" -> Cusack worked with Molly Ringwald in "Sixteen Candles" -> Molly was in the "Pretty in Pink" with Andrew 'Dice" Clay.

Whew. That was fun... Is it cheating to use actors that appeared in "Fast Times at Ridgmont High" or any John Hughes movie?
posted by psmealey at 11:37 AM on July 8, 2004

Shit. Or, you could just say that GG and Clay worked together in "the Adventures of Ford Fairlane".
posted by psmealey at 11:39 AM on July 8, 2004

I think Gilbert Gotfrey is where Dr. Who is from.
posted by inksyndicate at 12:01 PM on July 8, 2004

What is the "Art Carney situation"?

It's when you've got Gilbert Gottfried dead in the back of your 78 Nova with his brains spattered all over the back window and in your hair and you're in a friend's garage trying to get this taken care of only you're in a hurry because the friend keeps asking you if his house has a sign saying DEAD COMIC STORAGE and his big gay lover, Art Carney, is due back from doing whatever the hell it is he does in like half an hour so you've got to get cleaned up and out of there muy pronto, kemosabe.

That's the Art Carney situation.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 12:23 PM on July 8, 2004

Damn that Gilbert Gottfried! He's managed to get work on PBS Kids Cyberchase.
posted by SentientAI at 12:48 PM on July 8, 2004

Jesus Christ, ROU, you just damn near killed me.
posted by Optamystic at 6:10 PM on July 8, 2004

That's the Art Carney situation.

Shee-it, xeno, that's all you had to say!
posted by wdpeck at 11:38 PM on July 8, 2004

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