Where's Marilyn Manson?

September 6, 2004 9:22 PM

Are these really the 10 most hated men in rock?
posted by drezdn (55 comments total)

I'd probably give Durst a kick in the face.
posted by bitpart at 9:23 PM on September 6, 2004

I like santana.... thats really about it
posted by sourbrew at 9:33 PM on September 6, 2004

They don't have that nickelback guy, but they have Fred Durst, so I'm ok with it.
posted by holloway at 9:41 PM on September 6, 2004

They put Conor Oberst over Scott Stapp? That killed it for me.

Although it is nice to see someone else recognize how much the Goo Goo Dolls suck.
posted by amandaudoff at 9:58 PM on September 6, 2004

suck as ggd may, avril's not the only one who wants to ride the rzeznik pony, rawr !

Barely qualified to carry John Lennon's roach clip while both toiled with a grotesquely overrated boy band known as the Beatles, Sir Paul's true colors have reverberated loudly and horribly since Mark David Chapman put a tragic slug in Yoko's hubby. "Band on the Run" could have been written by a third grader, and McCartney's duets with alleged pedophile Michael Jackson -- and the ensuing public pissing match over Wacko Jacko's savvy purchase of the Beatles' catalogue -- cemented McCartney's legacy of poor taste and idiocy.

can't argue with that. in fact i've been dying to see something like that in print since "silly love songs".

of course this list is like every other list that came before it... written by someone who likely wishes he had what it takes but doesn't, and based much more on jaundiced opinion than any sort of expertise.
posted by t r a c y at 10:22 PM on September 6, 2004

Lars Ulrich is that far down on the list? No way. Plenty more hate for Lars out there than that!
posted by Melinika at 10:26 PM on September 6, 2004

A fine collection of irritants there, though I'd give Elton John a break -- if you listen to radio, you're rarely forced to hear any of his post-'84 or so stuff. (Even with "Candle in the Wind," I just hear the Marilyn one now.) And he's still a great philanthropist and fun dresser.

If this had been compiled in Chicago instead of St. Louis, I'm guessing Dave Matthews would have ranked a little higher.
posted by lisa g at 10:26 PM on September 6, 2004

Scott Stapp and Lars should have been ranked far higher (now they're only on the "honorable mention" list).
posted by clevershark at 10:43 PM on September 6, 2004

Jimmy Buffet? Eric Clapton?

pssh.
posted by ODiV at 10:56 PM on September 6, 2004

So, who wants to let this guy know that Stevie Ray Vaughan is dead?
posted by NortonDC at 10:59 PM on September 6, 2004

Good stuff! Funny.
posted by cell divide at 11:03 PM on September 6, 2004

someone else recognize how much the Goo Goo Dolls suck.

I know -- know -- this is pointless, because, yes, my favorite band (not the Goo Goo Dolls) sucks too, but seriously, I'd love to hear someone actually take apart a ggd song. Take Slide, or Name, or Iris, because I thought they were pretty good. But what do I know, I thought the Beatles were pretty good, and Sting has done some excellent solo work. Sorry that Seely is unable to appreciate it.
posted by weston at 11:47 PM on September 6, 2004

Where the hell is Eddie Vedder?
posted by meech at 12:49 AM on September 7, 2004

And that guy from the Counting Crows?
posted by meech at 12:50 AM on September 7, 2004

Hey, great - because the world needed yet ANOTHER exhaustively researched list of people that some (cough) journalist (/cough) doesn't like. Thank goodness that alternative media is there to "report" stories like this that the big conglomerates won't!

Waste of newsprint and bandwidth.
posted by pmurray63 at 1:07 AM on September 7, 2004

Thanks for chiming in, Sir Paul.
posted by Optamystic at 1:37 AM on September 7, 2004

looks about right to me... thought conor oberst is basically the modern bob dylan (hahahahhajesuschrist)
posted by Satapher at 1:39 AM on September 7, 2004

It makes me feel good to know that there are people out there who are so much cooler than I am.
posted by Joey Michaels at 2:53 AM on September 7, 2004

People still care about "Rock"?
posted by ParisParamus at 3:36 AM on September 7, 2004

i think they got the title wrong ... "the ten people you have to hate most to be considered a trendy with it guy"
posted by pyramid termite at 4:45 AM on September 7, 2004

No Morrissey? No Robert Smith?

Feh.
posted by jonmc at 6:40 AM on September 7, 2004

I like Max Weinberg. He's funny on Conan and he certainly isn't hated. Lars, on the other hand, should be in the top ten with Durst and Rzeznick. Otherwise, I don't care too much about this list.
posted by crazy finger at 6:42 AM on September 7, 2004

I actually found myself unable to hate Lars after seeing Some Kind of Monster. Anyone whose father appears to be a benevolent Danish gnome can't be all bad.
posted by COBRA! at 6:59 AM on September 7, 2004

This is a joke, right?

I'/m right there with G.E. Smith, Elton John (like his music HATE the man) and Fred Durst (who is among the most irritating as well as hated).

But Jimmy Buffett? Paul McCartney's the most hated man in rock? What about those asshats from Oasis? Christina? William Hung? Madonna? Metallica?

Easy to overlook some low hanging fruit.
posted by fenriq at 7:25 AM on September 7, 2004

Neil Finn. I could never tire of punching his smug - over - emoting - I - really mean - this face. Always bring the weather with you? Always bring a scaffold pole I say. Just in case.
posted by ciderwoman at 8:33 AM on September 7, 2004

He didn't actually type the word, but can't you just see the word "F-A-G" forming in the mind of Mike Seely, in pink neon, as he composed the phrase "key tickler" for his Elton John blurb? Oooh yeah, bile. The road of excess bile leads to the palace of wisdom, as that Tenth Most Hated Man in Poetry said, William Blake.
posted by digaman at 8:46 AM on September 7, 2004

I agree with most of the list ('cept oberst, who I was surprised made the list and was in the top 10), but where the hell is the entirety of U2?
posted by dobbs at 9:11 AM on September 7, 2004

I like how Melissa Etheridge was counted amoungst the men.

Would it be worth it to do a Most Hated Women in Rock for equality's sake, or could we just write "Courtney Love" 20 times?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:27 AM on September 7, 2004

Even though I like some of the people on this list, I can understand why some people could hate every one of them. A lot. Especially David Byrne. But MAX WEINBERG? Why? 'Cause he's got a day job? You hate him as much as you hate Elton John, just because the guy is working? This makes no sense.
posted by Faze at 9:27 AM on September 7, 2004

But David Byrne's given as an example of someone who isn't on the list...
posted by Pretty_Generic at 9:54 AM on September 7, 2004

How can this list be taken seriously with no mention of Michael Bolton?
posted by SisterHavana at 11:08 AM on September 7, 2004

Michael Bolton don't rock.
posted by kenko at 11:13 AM on September 7, 2004

I will forever forgive GE Smith any and all transgressions. This forgiveness he earns by playing guitar throughout Rain Dogs.
posted by damehex at 11:19 AM on September 7, 2004

People still care about "Rock"?

Okay, here's my list of the most hated men in rap and hip-hop:

All of them.
posted by Faze at 11:21 AM on September 7, 2004

conner oberst has experienced so much pain --- how can you assholes put salt in his wounds! FOR SHAME!
posted by Satapher at 11:51 AM on September 7, 2004

Okay, here's my list of the most hated men in rap and hip-hop:

All of them.

Just like your other lists, then.
posted by y2karl at 11:57 AM on September 7, 2004

Damehex: really? he did? I thought Marc Ribot, Keith Richards, and Waits himself?
posted by kenko at 12:22 PM on September 7, 2004

I don't understand the Peter Gabriel mention, I mean, Phil Collins isn't even mentioned, and he's MUCH more hate-worthy than Peter Gabriel. I saw David Byrne in concert last night, he's too cool and odd and energetic to be hated.
posted by Eekacat at 12:29 PM on September 7, 2004

painfully missing: that whiner in Simple Plan, that winer in Good Charlotte; LA Times critic and whiner Robert Hilburn, and who could forget the red rocker Sammy Haggar who pretty much ruined one of the best bands in rock singlehandedly?
posted by tsarfan at 12:30 PM on September 7, 2004

who could forget the red rocker Sammy Haggar who pretty much ruined one of the best bands in rock singlehandedly?

Step outside, son.
posted by COBRA! at 12:34 PM on September 7, 2004

While I think Sammy is just a manifested symptom of the long-and-slow internal ruination of VH, I still have to back up tsar, so don't start the brawl unless you're sure of your posse, Cobra.

;)
posted by zoogleplex at 1:05 PM on September 7, 2004

I'm not going to deny that VH went south pretty badly as the Sammy era dragged on (the three new songs on the compilation they just out out leave me embarassed for everyone involved... "Up for Breakfast" sounds like it was written by a horny 12-year-old), nor that a lot of the David Lee stuff kicks ass; but if I have to, I'll gladly take on all 17,000 of you to defend the honor of 5150.

Besides, Sammy had his own signature mountain bike! And tequila! How cool is that?!?
posted by COBRA! at 1:15 PM on September 7, 2004

Sure, G.E. Smith played with Hall & Oates but why not mention his work with David Bowie and Tom Waits? (Or his marriage to Gilda Radner?) Oh yeah, because that would make him cool.

He does have the worst case of Guitar Face ever, though.
posted by Monk at 1:26 PM on September 7, 2004

He's got kind of a lousy case of Face, period. But yeah, good guitarist, and you can't be that ubiquitous AND that ugly without some serious fucking talent behind it all.
posted by cortex at 4:57 PM on September 7, 2004

VanHalen = twiddly twiddly twiddly twiddly dee dee deeeee (doremifasolatido)

MINDBLOWING!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by Satapher at 9:00 PM on September 7, 2004

why does everyone cream over (more or less) studio guitarists that can play uninspired lackluster 12 bar blues solos and other age old standards?
posted by Satapher at 9:02 PM on September 7, 2004

or bach ripoffs with 32nd notes *yawn*
posted by Satapher at 9:06 PM on September 7, 2004

Neil Finn. I could never tire of punching his smug - over - emoting - I - really mean - this face. Always bring the weather with you? Always bring a scaffold pole I say. Just in case.

Wow, I'm surprised to hear this. Not liking the guy's music is fine, I guess, though I admit I'm a big fan.

But he is, from everything I've seen of the man, unbelievably humble and genuine. I've seen him live numerous times now, own two books by him, three DVDs, have read bunches of interviews. I'd say if I was compiling a list of the least smug and most generally likeable celebrities he'd be right at the top.
posted by mragreeable at 10:57 AM on September 8, 2004

I like this hate thread much, much more than the George Bush hate threads. At least we're hating people about something that really matters, that we experience directly, and that actually plays a role in our lives, and not a lot of distant crap we're regurgitating from CNN and NPR.
posted by Faze at 11:20 AM on September 8, 2004

WHAT ABOUT THE NUGE!!!!!!

THE MOTHERFUCKING NUGE!!!!

For those of you literate-types, I am trying to emulate Ted Nugent's insane rants.
posted by Smooth at 12:57 PM on September 8, 2004

Sorry mragreeable, but he must die. Always bring the weather? I'll bring him the fucking weather. Smug, anodyne pop pap. And i normally love pop pap.

But each to their own.
posted by ciderwoman at 3:07 PM on September 8, 2004

I'm just gonna end this thread with some love.

I fucking love Elliot Smith and I cry a little sometimes when I listen to his music.

Thats all....
posted by Parannoyed at 10:40 PM on September 8, 2004

WHAT ABOUT THE NUGE!!!!!!

What about him?

*aims crossbow*
posted by jonmc at 1:03 PM on September 9, 2004

awright, fine. We all hate the Nuge. He's fantastically despisable.

You happy now?
posted by Parannoyed at 5:22 PM on September 9, 2004

Speak for yourself. I like the guy.
posted by jonmc at 8:36 AM on September 10, 2004