CIA Says War Helps Recruit Terrorists
February 16, 2005 7:45 PM Subscribe
CIA Says War Helps Recruit Terrorists (Washington Post). . .The insurgency in Iraq continues to baffle the U.S. military and intelligence communities, and the U.S. occupation has become a potent recruiting tool for al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, top U.S. national security officials told Congress yesterday.
"Islamic extremists are exploiting the Iraqi conflict to recruit new anti-U.S. jihadists," CIA Director Porter J. Goss told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
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And Rumsfeld, ever Rumsfeld replies "I see these reports. Frankly, I don't have a lot of confidence in any of them."
This is the same Rumsfeld that accuses Al Jazeera of being a lying propaganda machine.
I know which one I trust more.
posted by exlotuseater at 8:41 PM on February 16, 2005
I know which one I trust more.
posted by exlotuseater at 8:41 PM on February 16, 2005
"Beyond the Euphrates began for us the land of mirage and danger, the sands where one helplessly sank, and the roads which ended in nothing. The slightest reversal would have resulted in a jolt to our prestige giving rise to all kinds of catastrophe; the problem was not only to conquer but to conquer again and again, perpetually; our forces would be drained off in the attempt."
Emperor Hadrian AD 117-138
posted by halekon at 9:06 PM on February 16, 2005
Emperor Hadrian AD 117-138
posted by halekon at 9:06 PM on February 16, 2005
Just this once, can we put an [Obvious] tag next to this FPP?
posted by LordSludge at 9:32 PM on February 16, 2005
posted by LordSludge at 9:32 PM on February 16, 2005
ie. how to scare Americans in to passing bloated military budgets.
posted by stbalbach at 11:21 PM on February 16, 2005
posted by stbalbach at 11:21 PM on February 16, 2005
Frankly, I don't have a lot of confidence in Rumsfeld. One of the worst SecDefs in many decades. Much blood is on his incompetent hands.
posted by teece at 11:41 PM on February 16, 2005
posted by teece at 11:41 PM on February 16, 2005
"Robert S." Rumsfeld -- on a mission to salvage McNamara's reputation, at least in comparison.
From one really bright unfeeling technocrat to another!
posted by orthogonality at 12:28 AM on February 17, 2005
From one really bright unfeeling technocrat to another!
posted by orthogonality at 12:28 AM on February 17, 2005
Emperor Hadrian AD 117-138
Classics are timeless and cannot be re-read too often.
posted by IndigoJones at 4:24 AM on February 17, 2005
Classics are timeless and cannot be re-read too often.
posted by IndigoJones at 4:24 AM on February 17, 2005
"Those that do not learn history are doomed to repeat it." - G. Santayana
Those that do learn history are doomed to repeat that quote by Santayana.
posted by psmealey at 4:51 AM on February 17, 2005
Those that do learn history are doomed to repeat that quote by Santayana.
posted by psmealey at 4:51 AM on February 17, 2005
That CIA! Full of liberal commies!
The scariest part of this is that I know dozens of people who'll read this report and say, "This is just silly. I know more about terrorism and the state of Iraq than this 'CIA' does."
posted by dougunderscorenelso at 8:01 AM on February 17, 2005
The scariest part of this is that I know dozens of people who'll read this report and say, "This is just silly. I know more about terrorism and the state of Iraq than this 'CIA' does."
posted by dougunderscorenelso at 8:01 AM on February 17, 2005
Emperor Hadrian AD 117-138
Classics are timeless and cannot be re-read too often.
Agreed. Thanks, halekon.
posted by AlexReynolds at 8:16 AM on February 17, 2005
Classics are timeless and cannot be re-read too often.
Agreed. Thanks, halekon.
posted by AlexReynolds at 8:16 AM on February 17, 2005
Well, I don't see how we are supposed to convince the American people to continue funding a War on Terror™ when there are no terrorists. From a marketing standpoint, this makes perfect sense. I've underestimated this guy Bush. He is a genius of epic proportions!
posted by j.p. Hung at 8:34 AM on February 17, 2005
posted by j.p. Hung at 8:34 AM on February 17, 2005
psmealey In other developments, the CIA has also declared the world round and the Pope Catholic.
You should read the report on the defecation of bears. Damn, that's some surprising stuff. Here we were thinking Rumsfeld's skull, and it was the woods all the time. Maybe it's bulls instead. We'll have to wait for further reports.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 2:29 PM on February 17, 2005
You should read the report on the defecation of bears. Damn, that's some surprising stuff. Here we were thinking Rumsfeld's skull, and it was the woods all the time. Maybe it's bulls instead. We'll have to wait for further reports.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 2:29 PM on February 17, 2005
There isn't much he (WaPo) does know. Or at least willing to say
When the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Ike Skelton (Mo.), asked about the number of insurgents in Iraq, the secretary said, "I am not going to give you a number for it because it's not my business to do intelligent work." (He presumably meant to say "intelligence.")
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 3:06 PM on February 17, 2005
When the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Ike Skelton (Mo.), asked about the number of insurgents in Iraq, the secretary said, "I am not going to give you a number for it because it's not my business to do intelligent work." (He presumably meant to say "intelligence.")
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 3:06 PM on February 17, 2005
I'm not seeing the point of Rummy's comments.
The ultimate point I mean. The war in Iraq...I mean, the counterinsurgancy (since major combat operations are over - mission accomplished) ... isn't going well?
Wasn't there a vote, etc?
Why then deny conflict spurs on the extremeists (Hell, we see it here on Metafilter)
...Isn't denying basic common sense a sign of madness?
(Not that I'm a Porter Goss fan)
posted by Smedleyman at 4:40 PM on February 17, 2005
The ultimate point I mean. The war in Iraq...I mean, the counterinsurgancy (since major combat operations are over - mission accomplished) ... isn't going well?
Wasn't there a vote, etc?
Why then deny conflict spurs on the extremeists (Hell, we see it here on Metafilter)
...Isn't denying basic common sense a sign of madness?
(Not that I'm a Porter Goss fan)
posted by Smedleyman at 4:40 PM on February 17, 2005
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