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October 27, 2005 11:38 PM   Subscribe

hahahahah! looks like you mac weenies are out of luck...
posted by jimjam (63 comments total)

This post was deleted for the following reason: macpcflamefilter



 
OH NOES!!!!1!
posted by tweak at 11:42 PM on October 27, 2005


where is the flagging option for "this post is the shittiest attempt at a troll i've seen yet"
posted by tweak at 11:42 PM on October 27, 2005


I used to be a liaison between an HR dept and BrassRing. Their system basically only supported (at that time, not sure/don't care if it still does) IE. I told them on any number of occasions that it was idiotic. It was hard to do it via email, though, because they were stricken with every virus that came around - they all used Outlook as well.

That being said, interesting choice for an FPP. Cable not working?
posted by nevercalm at 11:47 PM on October 27, 2005


Dang! So I'll never get the chance to emigrate to America and apply to be a phone monkey for AMEX or checkout bitch at Target if I intend to take my iBook with me. Such dashed dreams.

I call for BrassRing to be wiped from the map with fiery wrath!
posted by Jenga at 11:51 PM on October 27, 2005


hahahahah! it looks like you windows weenies are in luck!

Seriously, though, anyone can troll on any OS's users all day long. There's no skill or cleverness involved here.

I think jimjam's mommy needs to start putting him to bed earlier.
posted by Mikey-San at 11:54 PM on October 27, 2005


Put them in a body bag, jimjammy!! Yeah!!
posted by fleacircus at 11:54 PM on October 27, 2005


lame
posted by caddis at 12:01 AM on October 28, 2005


Truly the best of the web.
posted by Justinian at 12:05 AM on October 28, 2005


I hate to be the one always complaining about the quality of fpps these days, but, well....no actually I enjoy it.
Tar and feather him, boys!
posted by nightchrome at 12:09 AM on October 28, 2005


Shoot. There goes my dream of getting out of the arts and becoming a cubical-dweller. jimjam, why must you erase all hope? Why? Why? Why?
posted by brundlefly at 12:15 AM on October 28, 2005


This post sucks donkeyballs.
posted by Thoth at 12:17 AM on October 28, 2005


-1 Flamebait
posted by Joeforking at 12:20 AM on October 28, 2005


Four lazy one-link FPP's.

You're a shitheel.
posted by basicchannel at 12:26 AM on October 28, 2005


Damn. You mean I'll have to keep my present job? The one I've had since 1987 when I started a graphics consulting business using a long migration of Macs? The one where I can work my own hours (its 3:00am), take a nap whenever I like, wake the kids for school and be home to cook dinner with the family every night?

Don't mean to drone on and on but - Oops! So sorry. I didn't mean to use the word "drone" in front of you. My bad.
posted by hal9k at 12:31 AM on October 28, 2005


Four lazy one-link FPP's.

And fully 50% of them are Mac troll threads. Us Mac people, we've SO been pwned!1!1

You, sir, are a weenie.
posted by nevercalm at 12:40 AM on October 28, 2005


wait, wait. he called you guys WEENIES. i don't think you mac weenies understand the GRAVITY of this situation.

it's on now
posted by jimmy at 12:51 AM on October 28, 2005


Four ass-tastic FPPs, and one is actually a link to a Slashdot comment.

I hereby flag this FPP as -1, Retarded.
posted by Mikey-San at 12:56 AM on October 28, 2005




Please help end OS discrimination in the workplace.
posted by jeblis at 1:06 AM on October 28, 2005


Please delete this thread (and user).
posted by sic at 1:11 AM on October 28, 2005


This will all change once the identity theft class action suits get rolling.

and yeah, terrible post.
posted by b1tr0t at 1:20 AM on October 28, 2005


go back to slashdot you self-aggrandizing fuckshit, dick eating cow
posted by angry modem at 1:22 AM on October 28, 2005


heh i read that as click-eating.
posted by dhruva at 1:32 AM on October 28, 2005


Harsh, but makes you think.
posted by Catfry at 1:37 AM on October 28, 2005


Catfry: About what?
posted by brundlefly at 1:45 AM on October 28, 2005


Is 'self-aggrandizing fuckshit, dick eating cow' the new 'troll'?
posted by Balisong at 1:47 AM on October 28, 2005


"self-aggrandizing fuckshit, dick eating cow" = SAFDEC?
posted by brundlefly at 1:49 AM on October 28, 2005


Four posts doesn't take into account those jimjam's had deleted. Like this one. Extraordinary.

Also, he was responsible for my personal pick for The Worst FPP Ever. Classic.
posted by gramschmidt at 1:50 AM on October 28, 2005


Damn, there's me ruled out of every single shit job I'd never want. Gutted, thanks for the heads up jimjam.
posted by twistedonion at 1:52 AM on October 28, 2005


oh this is awesome. i'm not even a mac user and i see where this is going. I'm gonig to keep commenting in here every once in a while to try to get the last post in before deletion. any takers?
posted by shmegegge at 2:06 AM on October 28, 2005


shmegegge at the MetaFilter tonight. Awesome show.
posted by gramschmidt at 2:10 AM on October 28, 2005


A Mac user with "Virtual PC" installed wouldn't have a problem, right? How did this get to be a big deal?
posted by ironisokratic at 2:23 AM on October 28, 2005


I'm up early. Thinking of having pancakes or waffles for breakfast. Wonder if the waffles are mac compatible though.
posted by birdherder at 2:24 AM on October 28, 2005


jimjam is a poopy head.
posted by qwip at 2:47 AM on October 28, 2005


Oh, and IBTL!
posted by qwip at 2:48 AM on October 28, 2005


Ok, it's an utterly shit post, but the page title gave me a chuckle.
posted by Optamystic at 2:51 AM on October 28, 2005


Its not even a story - they're changing the software to be Mac compatible in December.

Worthless FP.
posted by Spacelegoman at 2:55 AM on October 28, 2005


Three Microsoft engineers and three Apple employees are traveling by train to a computer conference. At the station, the three Microsoft engineers each buy tickets and watch as the three Apple employees buy only a single ticket.

"How are three people going to travel on only one ticket?" asks a Microsoft engineer.

"Watch and you'll see," answers the Apple employee.

They all board the train. The Microsoft engineers take their respective seats, but all three Apple employees cram into a restroom and close the door behind them. Shortly after the train has departed, the conductor comes around collecting tickets. He knocks on the restroom door and says, "Ticket, please."

The door opens just a crack and a single arm emerges with a ticket in hand. The conductor takes the ticket and moves on.

The Microsoft engineers saw this and agreed it was quite a clever idea. So after the conference, the Microsoft engineers decide to do the same on the return trip and save some money.

When they get to the station, they buy a single ticket for the return trip. To their astonishment, the Apple employees don't buy any ticket, at all.

"How are you going to travel without a ticket?" asks one perplexed Microsoft engineer.

"Watch and you'll see," answers an Apple employee.

When they board the train the three Microsoft engineers cram into a restroom and the three Apple employees cram into another one nearby. The train departs.

Shortly afterward, one of the Apple employees leaves his restroom and walks over to the restroom where the Microsoft engineers are hiding. He knocks on the door and says, "Ticket, please..."
posted by shmegegge at 3:35 AM on October 28, 2005


What a form letter of a joke.
posted by TwelveTwo at 3:41 AM on October 28, 2005


If you need to use PC for application, go to a computer cafe or to Kinkoes and apply. That most buxiness places use PCs indicates nothing more than that all keyboards still use a finger placement system seriously inefficient but one that has become custom and a hand-me-down.

As far as using this or that type of machine in the workplace once getting a job, that should be easily learned. Even I managed to switch from one platform to another.
posted by Postroad at 3:55 AM on October 28, 2005


A Mac user with "Virtual PC" installed wouldn't have a problem, right? How did this get to be a big deal?

if using using xp on a pc isn't enough to put you off using windows for life, running xp on "virtual pc" certainly would be.
posted by tnai at 4:16 AM on October 28, 2005


Yeah, Macs are for babies and aztecs!

jimjam can be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.
posted by wilberforce at 4:34 AM on October 28, 2005


AmEx, Target and Sears?
Seriously, that's what you're hahaing about?
AmEx, Target and Sears?
Is it your aspiration to work for one of these places? Maybe you already re-stock sweaters and fell all superior about it?
posted by signal at 4:49 AM on October 28, 2005


What's with the post title? I don't get it.
posted by swift at 4:49 AM on October 28, 2005


crap...i sleep for a couple of hours and metafilter is taken over by adolescents.....

YA'LL GET OUT OF HERE AND GO TO SCHOOL!
posted by HuronBob at 4:52 AM on October 28, 2005


I told Mathowie that giving Steve Ballmer an account was a mistake.
posted by spock at 5:20 AM on October 28, 2005


sad bolstering of job prospects for talentless fools.
I like how their defense for not integrating Mac is that they're not hearing from people about it. Of course, people on Macs only would have to go to the public library, etc. to complain directly, no?
posted by Busithoth at 5:20 AM on October 28, 2005


Err, if you're a creative professional then you'll be working on a Mac. I've been a graphic designer for over fifteen years and I've never worked at a studio that didn't use Macs, this going back to the dawn of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus Freehand.

Do you want a shitty job? Don't use a Mac.

Do you want a fun and creative job? Then use a Mac.
posted by disgruntled at 5:26 AM on October 28, 2005


Wait, are you telling me I can't get a job at Sears, Target or American Express ? Well, shit, what do I have to live for now?
posted by Uncle Glendinning at 5:29 AM on October 28, 2005


Last night, a Windowsie friend of mine was visiting & said he needed to check something for work, so could he hook his laptop up to my router? He was concerned that it was a "Mac" router and that the Internets was somehow configured Mac-only at my house ... and was VERY susprised when he could actually get online. Punchline: he's a tech at a major company & has a Bachelor's in Computer Science.

This is the level of comprehension at which most anti-Mac people are functioning: simple misunderstanding.
posted by Ricky_gr10 at 5:36 AM on October 28, 2005


nearly forty years ago the beatles had commented on the lack of macs in the banking industry ...
posted by pyramid termite at 5:41 AM on October 28, 2005


There's the germ of a decent post there, but it's got nothing inherently to do with Mac v. Windows. It's got a lot to do with crappy MSP applications like BrassRing.

I haven't worked with BR, personally, but I used to do a lot with Peopleclick VMS. They actualy claimed to be IE+Windows only, but in fact as far as I could see you could use it all the way back to NN3 (with some diminished capability). The application used a lot of javascript for form management and to improve the interaction model, so the backward compatability was clearly intentional; I was very not-crazy about the application as a whole, but their engineers actually did a good job with the cross-platform JavaScript.

We had partner status, so they'd admit to us in confidence that all this was true, but you would never hear them admit it in talking with clients. Why? Well, in certain circles, to admit that you pay attention to "alternative" browsers is regarded as a major faux pax. If they went into a presentation with, let's say, Ford, the lower-management weenie at Ford who was responsible for evaluating Vendor Management System bids would write them off as a bunch of pink-tinged F/OSS geeks.

In other words, in Corporate America, cross browser functionality is often implicitly a BAD THING.

This is because Corporate America (and this is probably true of large corporate environments world wide, to be fair) is a place where it's much more important to NOT MAKE MISTAKES than it is to SUCCEED.

Now, if that's what this post had been about, the discussion might have gone somewhere.
posted by lodurr at 5:44 AM on October 28, 2005


There's the germ of a decent post there, but it's got nothing inherently to do with Mac v. Windows. It's got a lot to do with crappy MSP applications like BrassRing.

I haven't worked with BR, personally, but I used to do a lot with Peopleclick VMS. They actualy claimed to be IE+Windows only, but in fact as far as I could see you could use it all the way back to NN3 (with some diminished capability). The application used a lot of javascript for form management and to improve the interaction model, so the backward compatability was clearly intentional; I was very not-crazy about the application as a whole, but their engineers actually did a good job with the cross-platform JavaScript.

We had partner status, so they'd admit to us in confidence that all this was true, but you would never hear them admit it in talking with clients. Why? Well, in certain circles, to admit that you pay attention to "alternative" browsers is regarded as a major faux pax. If they went into a presentation with, let's say, Ford, the lower-management weenie at Ford who was responsible for evaluating Vendor Management System bids would write them off as a bunch of pink-tinged F/OSS geeks.

In other words, in Corporate America, cross browser functionality is often implicitly a BAD THING.

This is because Corporate America (and this is probably true of large corporate environments world wide, to be fair) is a place where it's much more important to NOT MAKE MISTAKES than it is to SUCCEED.

Now, if that's what this post had been about, the discussion might have gone somewhere.
posted by lodurr at 5:44 AM on October 28, 2005


Weird. That was definitely only a single post -- I previewed to work around the Opera post bug, and when I posted there were two posts. Meta, i guess....
posted by lodurr at 5:46 AM on October 28, 2005


Good thing I'm already done using my Mac to build my own company. Down with the man!
posted by Devils Rancher at 5:48 AM on October 28, 2005


BrassRing wouldn't have this issue if they hired competent web designers.

Personally if I were hiring and saw that someone was responsible for a web application design which only supported the one platform when there's no reason to do so, that person's resume would end up in the rounded filing cabinet, and I'm not even a Mac user anymore.
posted by clevershark at 5:57 AM on October 28, 2005


lodurr -- Opera and a Macintosh? I think you're being intentionally difficult... tar and feathers! And a copy of Windows XP!
posted by fet at 6:02 AM on October 28, 2005


I own a mac and have a job. I hope the gestapo doesn't come and take me away.
posted by chunking express at 6:02 AM on October 28, 2005


Metafilter: sucks donkeyballs.
sorry.
Not being much of a mac user, what's so different between them (pc browser vs. mac browser) that it causes this to happen?
posted by Tacitus at 6:02 AM on October 28, 2005


why would i want to apply for a job where i have to use windows? i'd rather slit my wrists and lay in a tub full of lemon juice.

tacitus: IE on Windows has ActiveX controls and other proprietary stuff in it, that some developers think is "normal". the mac version of IE is so old and out of date, it can't do the same stuff the new ones can.

unfortunetly there is no advantage to using that technology -- CSS/XHTML/etc. can be universally understood and used by everyone, and anything dynamic can be done on the server side.
posted by teletype1 at 6:18 AM on October 28, 2005


Not being much of a mac user, what's so different between them (pc browser vs. mac browser) that it causes this to happen?

Nothing. The problem is lazy programmers.
posted by twistedonion at 6:19 AM on October 28, 2005


Tacitus: Mac v PC? Nothing. IE-Win v Everything Else? Small, niggling things.

Usually IE-[Firefox/Opera/Safari/KHTML] compatability problems are a result of poorly abstracted object references. There are afew things that are difficult to abstract because IE has a significantly different object model for some things. As I recall, they mostly have to do with things like drag and drop and sorting records in tables. Other than things like that, it should be fairly easy to abstract the object references, so there's not much of an excuse.

It's easy to rag on them for this, by the way, but it's not as simple to get compatability as individual crontributors would have you believe. Don't forget that these applications are developed and maintained by large teams working to market(ing)- and sales-driven requirements. Which is to say that they environments in which they evolve are complex.
posted by lodurr at 6:22 AM on October 28, 2005


twistedonion writes "Nothing. The problem is lazy programmers."

Or just ignorant ones who wouldn't know how to make a web page without Front Page or Visual Web Developer...
posted by clevershark at 6:27 AM on October 28, 2005


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