New Star Trek Movie?
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New Star Trek Movie? There is talk that there might be a new Star Trek movie with Shatner, Stewart & Bakula. Via Digg
posted by notcostello (81 comments total)
 
Sweet grud on a greenie. Please do NOT "make it so". Not yet. Give it another five years.
posted by kaemaril at 3:52 PM on December 15, 2005


My head just exploded.
posted by Sharktattoo at 3:52 PM on December 15, 2005


In other news, Shatner, Stewart, & Bakula are all completely broke.
posted by brain_drain at 3:52 PM on December 15, 2005


Reporting rumors found on Digg? Best of the web indeed...
posted by SirOmega at 3:53 PM on December 15, 2005


kaemaril: Will Shatner last another five years?
posted by Derive the Hamiltonian of... at 3:54 PM on December 15, 2005


Yeah, I read about this on Ain't It Cool News. I'm just wondering... did the last few Star Trek films do well enough that doing another one makes any kind of financial sense?
posted by brundlefly at 3:54 PM on December 15, 2005


I can feel the sucking from here...five years in the past.
posted by rand at 3:57 PM on December 15, 2005


Will this Trek movie be an even-numbered movie? If so, It might be good.
posted by Fat Guy at 3:57 PM on December 15, 2005


It'd be an odd-numbered movie. But I don't really think it matters, because I don't think this'll happen.
posted by dd42 at 3:58 PM on December 15, 2005


Derive : Probably, yep. But I don't want Shatner, Stewart, Bakula, Mulgrew or even Brooks. I don't want a rehash of the same old plots over and over again with a crappy villain or wacky subspace anomaly. I want new stuff. More importantly ... NO BERMAN.

(... well, OK, I'd maybe settle for a bit of Brooks... )
posted by kaemaril at 3:58 PM on December 15, 2005


I think they should make a musical-comedy about Odo. It would be better than this.
posted by dogwelder at 4:00 PM on December 15, 2005


No Avery Brooks? Sisko was by far the wickedest male Captain.
posted by meehawl at 4:03 PM on December 15, 2005


When was the Mirror Universe on TNG? Will an evil Picard have a goatee? Or even a full head of hair?
posted by Foaf at 4:04 PM on December 15, 2005


Oh lord. Did you guys see what I saw? The word "disaster" magically appeared on the picture of Bakula.

I am intrigued by the idea of the Alternate or Mirror Universe plot for a movie. FI, it would be cool if ALL the characters were bad guys with goatees... or at least not the usual federation goody two-shoes.

But Shatner? The guys 70 years old! What are they going to do for a plot? Invade Rigel VI to seize it's vital Metamucile reserves?
posted by tkchrist at 4:04 PM on December 15, 2005


Is Khan coming back? In a smoking jacket?
posted by Rothko at 4:05 PM on December 15, 2005


Strange. The last I heard, the only plan they had for a Star Trek movie was one based around an all new cast, set around the time of the Federation's war with the Romulans. This announcement files in the face of all that I have read regarding a new Trek film.

Meh. If it happens, it will happen. I just hope that Manny Coto has a big say in what happens, as opposed to the hacks that are Berman and the now unemployed (following the cancellation of his new show Threshold) Bragga. Coto took Enterprise in the direction it should have gone right from day one, and made it worth watching. Though I still always skipped past that god awful theme song 'Faith of the Heart.'

But still, let's face it. As a Trek fan, I'll go see any new film they stick infront of me. It kills an afternoon, at the very least. And as much as many Trekkies (or Trekkers) in this thread will deride or bemoan any new Star Trek film announcement, let's face it; so will you.
posted by Effigy2000 at 4:09 PM on December 15, 2005


No chance. Fan boy fantasies. All three are beyond Trek for various reasons, plus the pay check for Stewart and Shatner would far exceed the revenue power of the movie, not least a Trekker-knowledge needed movie set in the mirror Universe.

Guarantee this one is a No
posted by A189Nut at 4:14 PM on December 15, 2005


wtb quantum leap feature film plz
posted by dopamine at 4:20 PM on December 15, 2005


Maybe Capt. Pike will mow them all down with his bionic wheelchair.
posted by stevis at 4:25 PM on December 15, 2005


Will an evil Picard have a goatee?

Sisko comes pre-accessorised with a goatee in either universe.
posted by meehawl at 4:34 PM on December 15, 2005


What, no Sisko or Janeway??

There'd better be Seven Of Nine at least...
posted by starscream at 4:40 PM on December 15, 2005


I can't wait to see Martha in a red shirt.
posted by Bighappyfunhouse at 4:41 PM on December 15, 2005


No Avery Brooks? Sisko was by far the wickedest male Captain.

Does that mean you find Janeway better then Sisko? Whatevs.
posted by delmoi at 4:51 PM on December 15, 2005


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Actually, I'd be all for this movie if it means the franchise dies a cruel, explosive and convulsive death due to its utter suckitude. Star Trek is a relic, and the longer we drag out tired storylines with the same tired races and the same tired mythology, the worse that relic looks.
posted by chrominance at 4:56 PM on December 15, 2005


Put another way, every subsequent movie is like digging out the corpse of Gene Roddenberry and rogering him up the ass for a good hour, copping a feel before you bury him back in the cold, dead ground.
posted by chrominance at 4:58 PM on December 15, 2005


[beep]
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 5:00 PM on December 15, 2005


Damn, that was supposed to be an Admiral Pike joke, but it's scrolled a bit since opening the page in a tab some 30 minutes ago.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 5:01 PM on December 15, 2005


About the closest TNG came to an alternate universe was when they messed up the space-time continuum (I don't remember how) and ran into the Enterprise C. And Tasha Yar never died, so they left her with the Enterprise C (getting her captured by the Romulans and having a daughter and all that jazz).
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 5:03 PM on December 15, 2005


Is this AskTrekFilter....? If so, I have a question
posted by ParisParamus at 5:18 PM on December 15, 2005


wow just what we need. another star trek movie. . . wow just what we need.
posted by nola at 5:28 PM on December 15, 2005


Nobody mentioned Wil Wheaton.
posted by fire&wings at 5:28 PM on December 15, 2005


Nobody mentioned Wil Wheaton.

Well, this isn't Fark ;)
posted by starscream at 5:29 PM on December 15, 2005


The new Wired has an article about some fans who have produced a couple of episodes set in the original series era.
posted by Fat Guy at 5:46 PM on December 15, 2005


You know what really irks me about Star Trek? Prequel series, mirror universes and other fluff they fixate on rather than actually tackling the challenging stuff. As of the end of Voyager, it looks like the Federation is finally getting to grips with the idea of machine intelligence (with the Doctor as an emergent sentient AI and Data having already been granted full sentient staus) - really interesting stuff, with potential for stories about something other than aggressive aliens and spatial anomalies. There's a metric shitload of scope for the universe to be taken in new directions, and what do we get? Mirror universes. Prequels. Bah.
posted by terpsichoria at 5:48 PM on December 15, 2005


Sisko. Damn straight.

"...some fans who have produced a couple of episodes set in the original series era."

So how do you produce an episode or get something together? It’s rare to see quality work really. I mean is it that easy to become a writer in Hollywood (I ask having no conception) ?
posted by Smedleyman at 5:49 PM on December 15, 2005


Is this AskTrekFilter....? If so, I have a question

I would like to hear this question.
posted by interrobang at 5:50 PM on December 15, 2005


Why would you do this when Larry Storch is still alive and working and you could make F Troop: The Motion Picture instead?
posted by George_Spiggott at 5:59 PM on December 15, 2005


Actually, I'll pass. Don't want to abuse this place.
posted by ParisParamus at 6:01 PM on December 15, 2005


Well there was also the TNG episode Parallels where Worf hopped between alternate universes, though none was the Mirror, Mirror one.
posted by Pryde at 6:02 PM on December 15, 2005


Ahhh ... that must've been one of the season 7 episodes I missed. There were a few.
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 6:08 PM on December 15, 2005


Y'know, while I could easily skip another Trek movie, I'd quickly shell out some dough to see a Galaxy Quest sequel. Now THAT would be cool!
posted by mosk at 6:13 PM on December 15, 2005


Wow, that's great, maybe it'll use the same opening theme as the Bakula series. And then it'll be the best one ever!




FOR ME TO POOP ON!

(apologies, triumph)
posted by lumpenprole at 6:19 PM on December 15, 2005


I think Donald Bogle once made a comment about the lack of black people in sci-fi, this pointing to a subliminated American hope that there'll be some kind of racial massacre in the future... I dunno if this is true, but if it's not... Why no fucking Sisko? Huh? HUH?!
posted by Football Bat at 6:34 PM on December 15, 2005


Just think of the new Trek movie as a Galaxy Quest spinoff. This may be the ONLY way to approach it if Berman is working on it.
posted by parallax7d at 6:36 PM on December 15, 2005


I stopped watching Star Trek right after I saw the first episode of Enterprise. It looked like it would ruin for me why I liked Trek in the first place, and everything I happened to see or read about it since confirmed that.

really interesting stuff, with potential for stories about something other than aggressive aliens and spatial anomalies. There's a metric shitload of scope for the universe to be taken in new directions, and what do we get? Mirror universes. Prequels. Bah.

Hear, hear. Even a series based on the time travelling section of the Federation, (metioned in Voyager) would have been more interesting. (Provided of course, that the time travel wasn't solely to earth and solely for the purpose of fixing the time line yet again.)

What's happened to all the thoughtful sci-fi? Go into a book store these days and 3/4 of the shelf labelled Sci Fi & Fantasy is wizards and warriors and stuff. The TV stuff like Battlestar Galactica is... okay... but not really all that far in the future, and has very little of the "what if?" writing that made ST: TNG interesting after about season three.
posted by Zinger at 6:41 PM on December 15, 2005


In every revolution there is one man.

Be that man!
posted by notcostello at 6:59 PM on December 15, 2005


What's happened to all the thoughtful sci-fi? Go into a book store these days and 3/4 of the shelf labelled Sci Fi & Fantasy is wizards and warriors and stuff.

You're not discriminating. Charles de Lint, China Mieville, Octavia Butler has a new one, Kelly Link, to name a few that come to mind.

Having said that, the Star Trek franchise deserves to die. It has outlived its usefulness, it has failed completely in its latest incarnations to tackle any real human issues (titilation replaced with the Vulcan philosophy in Enterprise, which has no real continuity in the damn series). It is a rabid Old Yeller that needs to be shot, however much the fanboys might cry.
posted by ed at 7:06 PM on December 15, 2005


The best part of this post are the comments on digg.

"Dude! Star Trek is teh r0X0rz!!! w00t!!!!"
posted by JeffK at 7:16 PM on December 15, 2005


lumpenprole I almost fell off my chair when I read your response.... I LOVED THAT SAYING

;)
Vera
posted by veryvera at 7:45 PM on December 15, 2005


Yeah, I read about this on Ain't It Cool News. I'm just wondering... did the last few Star Trek films do well enough that doing another one makes any kind of financial sense?
posted by brundlefly at 5:54 PM CST on December 15 [!]


Hahaha you read Ain't It Cool News
posted by cellphone at 8:06 PM on December 15, 2005


There hasn't been a great Star Trek movie since Khan. The second best is "Best of Both Worlds" from the TNG series.

Picard has run his course. Kirk was cool, but Shater is a stiff breeze away from dust. Janeway is fingernails on a chalkboard. And Scott Bakula is a walking vagina.

I'd shell out ten bucks to have another two hours with Capt. Benjamin Sisko, but for some reason he never seems to be invited to play with the big toys.
posted by JWright at 8:29 PM on December 15, 2005


"Scott Bakula is a walking vagina:

LOL.
posted by ParisParamus at 8:37 PM on December 15, 2005


The Mirror Universe episode of Enterprise was by far one of the best written of the entire series. It made me think, "I wish they had made a series out of this, and shelved Enterprise." Heck, even the opening theme music and opening credits was better.
posted by deanc at 9:03 PM on December 15, 2005


brooks/sisko was indeed my favorite ... however, in both the regular universe and the mirror one his character is dead :-/
posted by maulik at 9:40 PM on December 15, 2005


If Scott Bakula teams up with anyone to make a movie, I want it to be Joanna Pacula. In Dracula. Directed by: Alan Pakula.

In other words, Joanna Pacula and Scott Bakula in Alan Pakula's Dracula.
posted by kirkaracha at 9:53 PM on December 15, 2005


Frankly, I can really buy that Paramount decided to go with the safe star power in their stable rather than the Academy Days concept (which has been bandied about as a series premise since before DS9). And I wouldn't mind seeing the Mirror Kirk again, perhaps now an evil admiral running the Imperial Starfleet, or even Federation President-for-Life. Stupid, juicy fun.

Plus, Stewart would make a totally awesome Mirror Picard. "Make it so, or I'll have your family executed." Lore made a sort of Mirror Data, so that's not necessary (and Sela was a kind of Mirror Yar), but Riker and Worf, at least, would have a ball playing all-out evil twins. (It's harder to imagine evil things for the rest of the cast. Though some people would kill to see an evil Wesley Crusher.)

But they'd be seriously missing a fan opportunity if they didn't find some way to bring in Mirror Kira. Her faux-lesbian routine was the juiciest thing that DS9 ever did. Oh, and I just remembered they did establish a Mirror Worf in DS9.

Anyway, here's the reason I halfway like this concept at first blush. Not only is it unabashedly commercial, but the Mirror Universe is a superb forum for commentary on the shibboleths and pieties of the Trek Universe. (Similarly, I realized at one point that the Borg are the perfect dramatic foil for the Federation, because they represent its worst aspects in so many ways -- an expanding, assimilating technological civilization, described in ways that the West gets deconstructed by the Left.) In the Mirror Universe, our characters can not only do some wicked scenery-chewing scenes, they can actually act human. It's no wonder that the Mirror shows were often very popular -- in the regular shows, the plot constraints and the limited permissible character range often led to some pretty stilted acting. Freed of these rules, the actors were able to dispense with the tired lectures and create some cheap entertainment at last.
posted by dhartung at 10:24 PM on December 15, 2005


But still, let's face it. As a Trek fan, I'll go see any new film they stick infront of me.

That's why these movies suck -- they know they could put out film of William Shatner bothering a goat and fans would see it twice, blog about it, argue about it, see it a couple more times, buy the video game, buy the "Director's Cut" DVD with "hilarious outtakes," collect the toys, and...
posted by pracowity at 10:25 PM on December 15, 2005


cellphone writes "Hahaha you read Ain't It Cool News"

Yeah, I do. It's okay though: I'm always sure to post something snarky about how the site sucks, and how Harry Knowles is a fat fuck with no taste, in each and every Talkback thread that comes up.
posted by brundlefly at 10:41 PM on December 15, 2005


Jesus Christ, now I'm gonna be thinking about William Shatner 'bothering a goat' all night... thanks... man, I'd buy toys of that...
posted by Football Bat at 10:54 PM on December 15, 2005


"Scott Bakula is a walking vagina."

Hey man, what do you have against vaginas? Around our house, we always refer to him as Captain Package, because boy, those were some tight captain pants. In the future, uniforms come pre-padded, it seems.

I hated the mirror universe except for Evil Spock. I'd much rather see the Odo musical, frankly.
posted by emjaybee at 11:23 PM on December 15, 2005


I dunno, I think they'd make more money with Trek porn. Patrick Stewart was in pretty good shape in First Contact (I didn't see Nemesis, so).

I mean, there's how many people reading slash fanfics of Trek characters?

Kira and Jadzia Dax, mmm mmm.

And Odo would just be kickass no matter where you put him, obviously.
posted by Talanvor at 1:05 AM on December 16, 2005


dhartung: "...Riker and Worf, at least, would have a ball playing all-out evil twins."

Don't forget Thomas Riker. He went to the Maquis (ooh, spoiler), but I guess he wasn't really evil.

"But they'd be seriously missing a fan opportunity if they didn't find some way to bring in Mirror Kira. Her faux-lesbian routine was the juiciest thing that DS9 ever did."

What, Dax's actual lesbian love affair in "Rejoined" doesn't count? Well, I suppose once-male-now-female Trill thing makes it not entirely count, but let's say 90%.

"Oh, and I just remembered they did establish a Mirror Worf in DS9."

The thing I never liked about the mirror Worf is that he wasn't really a different person. He just had a different job. He was still honorable and a great warrior and leader and whatnot.

On the other hand, I always hated the Mirror Universe, so I think this is a bad idea.
posted by Plutor at 2:50 AM on December 16, 2005


The comedy potential of the Mirror Universe is incredible. Frakes could probably do a good job directing a "mirror universe comedy", and he, Stewart and Shatner can all be pretty funny when they've got good material, but I have very, very little confidence that anyone who would be involved in greenlighting a Trek movie would allow a decent full-length script to emerge.

OTOH, Mirror universe would make a great MadTV sketch.

You could very easily get a decent full-length mirror-universe Galaxy Quest script. That would be fun.
posted by lodurr at 4:32 AM on December 16, 2005


kirkaracha writes "If Scott Bakula teams up with anyone to make a movie, I want it to be Joanna Pacula. In Dracula. Directed by: Alan Pakula.

"In other words, Joanna Pacula and Scott Bakula in Alan Pakula's Dracula."


Alright, that was funny.
posted by purephase at 4:51 AM on December 16, 2005


ST in any incarnation was always best when describing alien cultures. The best characters (and actors, excepting Patrick Stewart) were the aliens on-board. The best story arcs told of the mythologies and intricacies of alien life (Worf's discommendation, the Bajoran Kai succession). The fact that "they" (ST's creative team, Paramount) have ignored these rich myth-beds as sources/settings for new films and series and focused, instead, over and over again on the (predominantly) white (predominantly) man saving the day from the BEM-of-the-week is one reason why the franchise has spun merrily down the crapper.
posted by the sobsister at 6:22 AM on December 16, 2005


KHAAAAAAN!
posted by mcstayinskool at 6:26 AM on December 16, 2005


in both the regular universe and the mirror one his character is dead

A minor detail. One temporal anomaly fixes all that.
posted by meehawl at 7:09 AM on December 16, 2005


Actually, I'll pass. Don't want to abuse this place.
posted by ParisParamus at 6:01 PM PST on December 15

Can this be a new quote to bring up in every thread Paris pisses on in the future?
posted by [expletive deleted] at 7:37 AM on December 16, 2005


That's why these movies suck -- they know they could put out film of William Shatner bothering a goat and fans would see it twice, blog about it, argue about it, see it a couple more times, buy the video game, buy the "Director's Cut" DVD with "hilarious outtakes," collect the toys, and...

While this is still true of Star Wars, Star Trek's popularity has taken a sharp nose dive in recent years. They've cut back on the books they release, and they just don't sell as well. Plus the last movie flopped.
posted by drezdn at 8:30 AM on December 16, 2005


Maybe they can actually write a script that doesn't take the easy out by destroying the damn ship? I mean, what version of the thing are they on now? Enterprise Z?
posted by Thorzdad at 8:39 AM on December 16, 2005


maulik: "brooks/sisko was indeed my favorite ... however, in both the regular universe and the mirror one his character is dead :-/"

Did you not watch the finale? He's not dead, he's in the Celestial Temple, yuckin it up with the Prophets. He could come back down in a silver chariot raining lightning bolts on the Cardassians at any moment!
posted by Plutor at 8:47 AM on December 16, 2005


Depends on whos directing the movie. ST is a good plot line, and enterprise started to get good, the last few eps where amazing. It should be interesting.
posted by IronWolve at 8:47 AM on December 16, 2005


Stuart needs to realize that he is no longer Piccard, but Wheels
posted by roadmonkey at 8:55 AM on December 16, 2005


Good call sobsister
posted by parallax7d at 9:04 AM on December 16, 2005


wow just what we need. another star trek movie. . . wow just what we need.
posted by nola at 8:28 PM EST on December 15 [!]


I wouldn't mind, but then we're a communities of individuals with different likes and dislikes. Given the sorry state of Hollywood cinema these days, where a film like Mr. and Mrs. Smith is successful, this is hardly the least of what we "need".
posted by juiceCake at 9:22 AM on December 16, 2005


The mirror stuff is awful, awful stuff. Especially lousy in the DS9 parallel universe schtick.

What was kind of cool, however, was the symbiotic and/or imaginary link between Sisko and Benny, a science fiction author writing in the 40's. But all the Bajoran prophets stuff gets a little weak.

Anyway, the next ST film should focus on Sisko and DS9, but without rehashing the Founders and the Dominion War. Something along the lines of the first film (which is by far my favorite even though it makes me unpopular with the Trekkies) would be ideal.

I'm such a hopeless geek . . .
posted by aladfar at 9:28 AM on December 16, 2005


plutor: Did you not watch the finale? He's not dead, he's in the Celestial Temple, yuckin it up with the Prophets. He could come back down in a silver chariot raining lightning bolts on the Cardassians at any moment!

true ... fine, bring on sisko teh prophet vs. mirror locutus
posted by maulik at 10:16 AM on December 16, 2005


What a horrible idea.

Hey, know what would make a good movie? What if the crew of the Enterprise(s) got stuck in the holodeck? In...the Wild West?!

/sarcasm
posted by graventy at 11:26 AM on December 16, 2005


I'm a massive, hypernerdy Trek fan, and my only response to this is...


NOOO!! PLEASE NOOO!!! LET IT REST ALREADY!!! COME UP WITH A COMPLETELY NEW IDEA!!!!!!!!

Much as I love it, I think we have enough Trek.

Unless, of course, they want to do The Adventures of Captain Sulu... heh.
posted by zoogleplex at 11:27 AM on December 16, 2005


The Adventures of Captain Sulu, Chapter XXIV: I Am Nailed To The Hull
posted by lodurr at 11:59 AM on December 16, 2005


I don't read the Trek novels, but Memory Alpha mentions that Sisko returns to Bajor from the Celestial Temple after a couple years or so. I agree with everyone that says the new movie should feature him.

or Nicole deBoer, who played Ezri Dax in the last season. rawr.
posted by patgas at 6:41 AM on December 19, 2005


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