I knew Dubya had something in common with God.
January 17, 2006 12:31 PM   Subscribe

God mad at America, black people.
posted by I Love Tacos (84 comments total)
 
Keswick mad at I Love Tacs, people.

seriously, this fpp sucks
posted by keswick at 12:41 PM on January 17, 2006


This post doesn't care about white people.
posted by mr.curmudgeon at 12:41 PM on January 17, 2006


Ray Nagin hates white people.

sorry
posted by loquax at 12:42 PM on January 17, 2006


keswick: my apologies. I had a conversation with Martin Luther King, Jr, and he told me to FPP it.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:43 PM on January 17, 2006


And when they come to march on ya
Tell 'em to make sure they got their James Brown pass
And don't be surprised if Ali is in the White House
Reverend Ike, Secretary of the Treasure
Richard Pryor, Minister of Education
Stevie Wonder, Secretary of FINE arts
And Miss Aretha Franklin, the First Lady
Are you out there, CC?
A chocolate city is no dream
It's my piece of the rock and I dig you, CC
God bless Chocolate City and its (gainin' on ya!) vanilla suburbs

posted by furtive at 12:43 PM on January 17, 2006


It's not a great post, but the guy had a meltdown and maybe we could talk about it a little?
posted by fixedgear at 12:44 PM on January 17, 2006


Did anybody watch "The Boondocks" the other night?
posted by Gator at 12:44 PM on January 17, 2006


Oh, snap! Boneless rib sandwiches! What will they think of next?
posted by wakko at 12:44 PM on January 17, 2006


I Love Tacos: Really? Tell him "Hi." Could you find out if he's pissed that nobody can hear his speeches? kthxbye
posted by keswick at 12:46 PM on January 17, 2006


it all depends if he meant white, milk, or dark chocolate?
posted by lemonfridge at 12:48 PM on January 17, 2006


This is a bad fpp because it's a Democrat saying stupid things and not Pat Robertson.
posted by billysumday at 12:48 PM on January 17, 2006


George Bush doesn't care about black iPods.

posted by afx114 at 12:48 PM on January 17, 2006


this is a bad fpp because it's a single link to a msnbc article. omgwtfbbq
posted by keswick at 12:51 PM on January 17, 2006


I originally hoped he was talking about building the city out of chocolate, just like Willy Wonka.
posted by dflemingdotorg at 12:51 PM on January 17, 2006


Much better than this post, was The Boondocks. Wow, that show has some balls.
posted by geoff. at 12:53 PM on January 17, 2006


Funny, when I was having dinner at a Somalian restuarant and I was watching the weather, one of the fellow diners remarked to me that the hurricane was Allah's venegence on America. Different strokes...
posted by iamck at 12:53 PM on January 17, 2006


Nagin has definitely gone a bit crazy at some point. I don't know enough about him to know if it was before, during or after the hurricanes, but he's clearly lost it.

I'm curious when's the next chance for the citizens of N.O. to ditch him, and if they'll choose to do so. Personally, I'm leary of leaders who hear voices.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:57 PM on January 17, 2006


I saw his speech on CNN and didn't think it was anything close to a melt down. I think there is some real concern that a lot of people won't be returning to the city and that a disproportionate number of those not returning will be black. I expect this particularly concerns some people that Nagen depends upon for support and the speech was meant to reassure them that their concerns are his concerns. The bonus is that if what he says rubs certain people (the "Man" or possibly the "White Man") the wrong way those he is trying to comfort will like it that much more. The people he pisses off wouldn't vote for him anyway.
posted by Carbolic at 1:02 PM on January 17, 2006


Great weather today. God loves L.A.!!!
posted by mr_roboto at 1:03 PM on January 17, 2006


"What are you a fuckin' lizard?" --Bill Hicks
posted by keswick at 1:05 PM on January 17, 2006


Ascribing ANYTHING to God pretty much undermines any argument you were trying to make. God doesn't do shit. He allows stuff to happen but rarely can he be bothered to get up off his couch and actually do something.

The reason is because he doesn't exist. HAHAHAHAHA.
posted by fenriq at 1:09 PM on January 17, 2006


Then again, traffic was pretty bad this morning.... God is mad at me!!!
posted by mr_roboto at 1:14 PM on January 17, 2006


Is God mad at me when he makes my dog's poop runny and really unfun to scoop up? Or should I just feed my dog some different food?
posted by fenriq at 1:16 PM on January 17, 2006


Different strokes...
posted by iamck at 1:53 PM MST on January 17 [!]


so now you're bringing gary coleman into it?
posted by Hat Maui at 1:20 PM on January 17, 2006


fenriq: I don't know if God's mad at you, but I'm pretty sure Dog is.
posted by JekPorkins at 1:22 PM on January 17, 2006


Is God mad at me when he makes my dog's poop runny and really unfun to scoop up?

God is always mad at you when you keep a dog. Dogs are unclean.

Sincerely,
A Muslim
posted by Mayor Curley at 1:22 PM on January 17, 2006


So... no more "Nagin in '08" like folks were saying after that radio interview?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 1:25 PM on January 17, 2006


There should be an fpp about the latest episode of Boondocks.
posted by starscream at 1:25 PM on January 17, 2006


Comm on peeps! Choclate City is OBVIOUSLY a Funkadelic reference! Clinton in '08 (George that is!)
posted by Yer-Ol-Pal at 1:29 PM on January 17, 2006


God bless Chocolate City and its (gainin' on ya!) vanilla suburbs.

Gives me an idea for a new kind of Oreo!
posted by j-urb at 1:39 PM on January 17, 2006


Black people, White people, Yellow people...
We are all people created by The Highness Power in the Universe (or God)...
so why care about the color?!
what the difference it makes?

At the end of the day, you are not judged by your color, you are judged by how you live your life and what value / contribution you've made to this world...

I think we better create a better life for ourselves and spend quality time with our family & friends, instead of fighting over this endless stupid color war
posted by lumcc at 1:42 PM on January 17, 2006


La lalala, la lalala...

Seriously, I need an mp3 of that music.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 1:44 PM on January 17, 2006


Nagin is up for re-election this year, assuming we can manage to hold the election in Louisiana, which is far from certain what with so many polling places washed away, polling workers displaced in the evacuation, and entire districts still mostly uninhabited.
posted by localroger at 1:45 PM on January 17, 2006


Black people, White people, Yellow people...
We are all people created by The Highest Power in the Universe (or God)...
so why care about the color?!
what the difference it makes?

At the end of the day, you are not judged by your color, you are judged by how you live your life and what value / contribution you've made to this world...

I think we better create a better life for ourselves and spend quality time with our family & friends, instead of fighting over this endless stupid color war
posted by lumcc at 1:45 PM on January 17, 2006


OMG LOLZ NAGIN CAUGHT TEH ROBERTSON
posted by mr_crash_davis at 1:45 PM on January 17, 2006


Furtive, I'm glad I'm not the only person who heard that song as I read this.
posted by jonmc at 1:47 PM on January 17, 2006


La lalala, la lalala...

Seriously, I need an mp3 of that music.


God told me to pass this on to you.
posted by dgaicun at 1:53 PM on January 17, 2006


i remixed ray nagin in the immediate aftermath of the hurricane...

New Orleans is Broken: Moby vs Ray Nagin, etc
posted by empath at 1:53 PM on January 17, 2006


It's easy to make jokes about the mayor's comments, but I've heard more than a few people worried that his instability seems to be cause by untreated Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
posted by ColdChef at 1:54 PM on January 17, 2006


Whenever anyone blames a natural disaster on God's wrath, I reach for my gun. I'm very disapointed in Nagin right now.
posted by brundlefly at 1:55 PM on January 17, 2006




Crazy people say the darndest things.
posted by Outlawyr at 1:57 PM on January 17, 2006


La lalala, la lalala...

Seriously, I need an mp3 of that music.

God told me to pass this on to you.


Sometimes I wish my whole life was set to staccato music.
posted by furtive at 1:58 PM on January 17, 2006


Is it ok if New Orleans is a Neapolitan city instead?

Or is that just Naples?
posted by Guy Smiley at 2:02 PM on January 17, 2006


It's more of a Venician city right now.
posted by empath at 2:05 PM on January 17, 2006


Or Pompeian.
posted by dgaicun at 2:07 PM on January 17, 2006


Oh, because all those people died.

That's funny.
posted by ColdChef at 2:09 PM on January 17, 2006


I've always favored 'Cubic Scoops,' the Breyer's ice cream from the 80s. Not because the blacks and the whites would like together in little, segregated squares, but because it was delicious.
posted by NationalKato at 2:23 PM on January 17, 2006


*like = live
posted by NationalKato at 2:23 PM on January 17, 2006


That made a bitter day sweet as chocolate, dgaicun! Thanks!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 2:23 PM on January 17, 2006


A bull tit would be more useful to the people in New Orleans.
posted by HTuttle at 2:29 PM on January 17, 2006


During the speech Monday, Nagin, who is black, said that the hurricanes that hit the nation in quick succession were a sign of God’s anger toward the United States and toward black communities, too, for their violence and infighting. He also said, “It’s time for us to rebuild New Orleans — the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans.”

This was huge for the .0001% of us running Lynx.
posted by matkline at 2:37 PM on January 17, 2006


lummc are you serious? Not that I'm against diffrent races working together, but that was cliche. Or was it sarcastic? I dunno.

Anywho, maybe he ment milk chocolate, you know, milk (whitties) and chocolate (black people) together as one.
posted by Suparnova at 2:49 PM on January 17, 2006


Metafilter: If a post does not support my worldview it sucks
posted by Mick at 3:10 PM on January 17, 2006


For anyone wanting to mail the mayor a Hershey's bar, you can send those to:

Mayor C. Ray Nagin
Mayor’s Office
1300 Perdido, Room 2E04
New Orleans, LA 70112

(I thought his "chocolate" comment was fairly funny, myself. Not funny as in "yeah, you right" but funny as in "I know you didn't!")
posted by ColdChef at 3:19 PM on January 17, 2006


It just drives me nuts when everyone comments on something before they know all the facts. It becomes very clear with a little information.

Nagin was a Republican who changed parties in order to run for mayor in New Orleans. Because a Republican has about as much chance of becoming mayor of New Orleans as I do. He was brought into office on the white, rich, suburban vote. Just because you change the letter after your title doesn't mean you change who you are. It just proves to me that he will say what he thinks it will take to be re-elected.
posted by bas67 at 3:29 PM on January 17, 2006


I agree with Nagin. God is angry and he wants chocolate.
posted by Astro Zombie at 3:42 PM on January 17, 2006


God is my ex-gf?
posted by keswick at 3:49 PM on January 17, 2006


Nagin was a Republican who changed parties in order to run for mayor in New Orleans. Because a Republican has about as much chance of becoming mayor of New Orleans as I do. He was brought into office on the white, rich, suburban vote. Just because you change the letter after your title doesn't mean you change who you are. It just proves to me that he will say what he thinks it will take to be re-elected.

See! Republicans are all racists!
posted by Kwantsar at 3:54 PM on January 17, 2006


I don't know about y'all, but this kind of makes me happy. The whites are screaming at the blacks again, the blacks are screaming at the whites, everyone's angry at Uptowners, the Uptowners are angry at everyone else, it's back to neighborhood vs. neighborhood again, people are finally at each other's throats again. Second-line shootings are back. People are probably back to bitching about how slow and inconsistent the streetcars are. Too bad the Catholics and the Protestants aren't fighting against each other, too.
posted by suckerpunch at 4:00 PM on January 17, 2006


Mmmmm, chocolate...
posted by Mental Wimp at 4:04 PM on January 17, 2006


Metafilter: Assorted Chocolates

Meanwhile, I'm going to have to agree with mr_crash_davis on this one.
posted by youarenothere at 4:15 PM on January 17, 2006



I swear I saw that dorky looking guy in the white shirt in Martin Luther King Jr.'s speech, too.
posted by Citizen Premier at 4:48 PM on January 17, 2006


For what it's worth, Nagin specifies that chocolate means dark cocoa mixed with white milk. He seems to be more guilty on this front of an awful metaphor than overt racism.

That being said, he still Pat Robertson crazy for believing that this was God's wrath. You build a city below sea level in the path of hurricanes and one day a hurricane is going to flood it. God, if he existed, would just need to stand by and laugh.
posted by Joey Michaels at 4:52 PM on January 17, 2006


New Orleans and LA aren't quite as simple about race as the rest of the US. Nagin is a New Orleans Creole... a category that isn't really White or Black by the entrenched "One Drop of Blood" standards of the rest of the US.

And they don't come more uptown than him. Millionaire Republican until two weeks before the last mayoral election. Still... after watching his Republican idols screw him over, leave his city to waste, and debate whether to rebuild or not, I can see why he would become a bit embittered about what Dick Cheney and Halliburton have in store for New Orleans' future.

Yes, quite possibly post traumatic stress disorder.
posted by zaelic at 5:00 PM on January 17, 2006


Only white people can be racist.
Only millionaire televangelists can be bat-shit crazy.
posted by tkchrist at 5:57 PM on January 17, 2006


If I suddenly found myself with no home, no job, no schools, an infrastructure in shambles, and a mental midget for a mayor, I might be inclined to believe that god had a grudge against me too!
posted by wavespy at 5:59 PM on January 17, 2006


I think there is some real concern that a lot of people won't be returning to the city and that a disproportionate number of those not returning will be black.

Now why would that be? And how about some links to such statements/concerns.

That really is a loaded statement. I would love to know its source (if it has one other than your opinion).
Maybe there is an inference in there? Try replacing the word black at the end of sentence with "welfare recipient."

Seriously, if that initial statement is in print somewhere, please link it. I would love to see the context of the article it came from and who said it.

As for Nagin, his 15 minutes are up and he should be off the stage soon.
posted by a3matrix at 6:33 PM on January 17, 2006


Behold the speed of the internet:

I'm Not Chocolate
posted by ColdChef at 7:41 PM on January 17, 2006


Carbolic: I think there is some real concern that a lot of people won't be returning to the city and that a disproportionate number of those not returning will be black.

a3matrix: Now why would that be? And how about some links to such statements/concerns.

It's my opinion based upon what I've seen on the news and what I've heard from my many relatives who live in the New Orleans area. That's why the statement began with the words "I think".

My "guess" is that you could probably replace the word "black" with the word "poor" and it would be just as accurate.
posted by Carbolic at 7:42 PM on January 17, 2006




Why the hell does it have to be PSTD?

Honestly, I swear, I live in a different country than everyone I know. I thought the guy was riffing on a standard meme employed by black American politicians trying to reach the thousands of members of his constituency who are currently abaft on the Wal-Mart sea and bunking in Arkansas or Seattle.

The nearly monolithic media consensus I watched develop today (Nagin's NUTS! And he's GOT RELIGION!) does not reflect the speech I heard.

God help New Orleans and if Ray Nagin's the man to do the helping help him to. Help whoever the fuck is willing to fight for the place because if it's just Vegas East or Diisney World West, if there's no place for wildness and foreigness and sin and cheats and hustlers and drunks and insane levee projects that must be counted as proof of American hubris, then that is IT for this fucking country, because New Orleans gave this country its' soul and heart and imagination and beat. The day New Orleans is sane and plays by the same rules as the rest oof the USA is the day the country as a whole may be declared over.

Fuck. And fuckity fuck fuck.
posted by mwhybark at 8:02 PM on January 17, 2006


Whoops, PTSD, sorry.
posted by mwhybark at 8:04 PM on January 17, 2006



"I burn down your cities--how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You must all be crazy to put your faith in me
That's why i love mankind
You really need me
That's why I love mankind"


-R Newman


It was hard to pick just one verse.
posted by edgeways at 8:11 PM on January 17, 2006


CunningL - Thanks for doing the leg work I was to lazy to do.

Because the conditions in some of the hardest hit neighborhoods were so poor even before the hurricanes some also suspect that a number of those who left will have no desire to return. If you have ever been in some of the neighborhoods behind the French Quarter, just north of Rampart St., you'd understand why. Relocation to any place outside of the worst third world slum would be an improvement.
posted by Carbolic at 8:13 PM on January 17, 2006


God bless CC and its vanilla suburbs
posted by pekar wood at 8:19 PM on January 17, 2006


Maybe Nagin's right, and New New Orleans needs new leadership:
posted by dgaicun at 5:17 AM on January 18, 2006


The "Chocolate City" thing just keeps getting funnier and funnier to me.
posted by ColdChef at 6:24 AM on January 18, 2006


...the guy was riffing on a standard meme employed by black American politicians...

??

Calling black folk "chocolate" and commenting that God sent hurricanes as punishment is a standard meme employed by black politicians? Where? And when?
posted by youarenothere at 7:38 AM on January 18, 2006


God bless CC and its vanilla suburbs

Indeed, help keep our country vanilla!

(See how racist that is?)
(Nagin should be run ut of office on a rail)
posted by HTuttle at 8:02 AM on January 18, 2006


Htuttle: I don't think Nagin is racist, I think he's insane.
posted by I Love Tacos at 10:33 AM on January 18, 2006


I think he's racist and insane.
posted by youarenothere at 12:09 PM on January 18, 2006


I guess that's another possibility.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:04 AM on January 19, 2006


Another chocobility.
posted by dgaicun at 11:35 AM on January 19, 2006


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