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June 7, 2006 1:03 PM Subscribe
"If you want a serious interrogation, you send a prisoner to Jordan. If you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want someone to disappear - never to see them again - you send them to Egypt."
posted by Artw at 1:38 PM on June 7, 2006
posted by Artw at 1:38 PM on June 7, 2006
That spider was drunk on secret detentions and unlawful inter-state transfers.
posted by overanxious ducksqueezer at 1:44 PM on June 7, 2006
posted by overanxious ducksqueezer at 1:44 PM on June 7, 2006
I don't see Room 101 anywhere on that map.
posted by Nahum Tate at 1:57 PM on June 7, 2006
posted by Nahum Tate at 1:57 PM on June 7, 2006
They send terrorists to Bangor? Don't they know Stephen King lives there?
posted by Tuwa at 2:12 PM on June 7, 2006
posted by Tuwa at 2:12 PM on June 7, 2006
More seriously, I find the data more intriguing than illuminating. It looks like France and Spain said "no thanks," and I'm curious why. And I'm surprised to see Stockholm taking part.
posted by Tuwa at 2:16 PM on June 7, 2006
posted by Tuwa at 2:16 PM on June 7, 2006
Maybe Sweden will end up sympathizing with the terrorists.
(sorry.)
posted by basicchannel at 2:26 PM on June 7, 2006
(sorry.)
posted by basicchannel at 2:26 PM on June 7, 2006
Har har, all very funny, but in the meantime the US is illegally and secretly spiriting away human beings with Europe's cooperation. Ugh.
posted by Nelson at 3:48 PM on June 7, 2006
posted by Nelson at 3:48 PM on June 7, 2006
the US is illegally and secretly spiriting away human beings with Europe's cooperation.
Oh, oh, Mr Kotter, Mr Kotter, can I list the people who's caring would actually matter to the govermnet of the United States of America?
posted by rough ashlar at 4:17 PM on June 7, 2006
Oh, oh, Mr Kotter, Mr Kotter, can I list the people who's caring would actually matter to the govermnet of the United States of America?
posted by rough ashlar at 4:17 PM on June 7, 2006
I know the people who made that map, and they're now getting calls from all over the world about it. The interest in this is huge, much more than you'd expect from the play it's getting.
posted by bonaldi at 5:57 PM on June 7, 2006
posted by bonaldi at 5:57 PM on June 7, 2006
It looks like France and Spain said "no thanks," and I'm curious why.
Because they have backbone?
posted by spazzm at 8:46 PM on June 7, 2006
Because they have backbone?
posted by spazzm at 8:46 PM on June 7, 2006
Palma de Mallorca is in Spain, and is conveniently situated as a fuelling stoppover. This was well documented by local press last November during an Interior Ministry investigation. Meanwhile a very special place is being constructed across the straits in Morocco. Spain will not protest much as the country is highly dependent on the Gas pipeline passing through Morocco.
posted by adamvasco at 1:22 AM on June 8, 2006
posted by adamvasco at 1:22 AM on June 8, 2006
You're curious why France said "non" to the US?
...really?
posted by NinjaTadpole at 8:31 AM on June 8, 2006
...really?
posted by NinjaTadpole at 8:31 AM on June 8, 2006
Re Stockholm: RTFA.
Longer: Two egyptian "terrorists" (designated as such by the US and/or Egypt, thus 3v1L) were due for extradition to Egypt (see the red line Stockholm-Cairo), after Sweden receiving diplomatic assurances from the Egypt government that they would not be mistreated ("we do not torture"). The US generously agreed to provide transport (and fresh jumpsuits and clothes changing service, sensory deprivation hoods and earmuffs, sedative suppositories, shackles et c.).
IIRC, both renderees alledged brutal torture in Egypt, one is now disappeared.
The case made quite a stink in Sweden; The ombudsman of justice referred the case to the UN commission on torture, which said that it was so obviously wrong that they would not even deign to take it up to discussion. TFA is full of quotes from the Swedish investigation.
(oh, and my first comment, btw)
posted by froghopper at 8:50 AM on June 8, 2006
Longer: Two egyptian "terrorists" (designated as such by the US and/or Egypt, thus 3v1L) were due for extradition to Egypt (see the red line Stockholm-Cairo), after Sweden receiving diplomatic assurances from the Egypt government that they would not be mistreated ("we do not torture"). The US generously agreed to provide transport (and fresh jumpsuits and clothes changing service, sensory deprivation hoods and earmuffs, sedative suppositories, shackles et c.).
IIRC, both renderees alledged brutal torture in Egypt, one is now disappeared.
The case made quite a stink in Sweden; The ombudsman of justice referred the case to the UN commission on torture, which said that it was so obviously wrong that they would not even deign to take it up to discussion. TFA is full of quotes from the Swedish investigation.
(oh, and my first comment, btw)
posted by froghopper at 8:50 AM on June 8, 2006
Well, yes, NinjaTadpole, but more from a point of "why is their government has some dignity in this matter whereas ours ... well...."
Thanks, adamvasco. I'd missed the island there, and you're quite right. I guess I get a C for humor, F- for geography.
posted by Tuwa at 11:18 AM on June 8, 2006
Thanks, adamvasco. I'd missed the island there, and you're quite right. I guess I get a C for humor, F- for geography.
posted by Tuwa at 11:18 AM on June 8, 2006
Hi froghopper, good first comment!
posted by overanxious ducksqueezer at 12:15 PM on June 14, 2006
posted by overanxious ducksqueezer at 12:15 PM on June 14, 2006
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