Did he do it? Apparently, ehhhm, not so much.
August 28, 2006 3:14 PM   Subscribe

United States authorities have dropped all charges against the man accused of murdering child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey after a DNA test showed his DNA does not match that found on JonBenet's body.
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Thank god this important matter distracted us!
posted by Unregistered User at 3:20 PM on August 28, 2006


So he's cleared to head back to Bangkok and bang some kiddies then?
posted by fixedgear at 3:21 PM on August 28, 2006


WTF? So in other words, the 24/7 coverage of the whole thing was just a fat fucking waste of time. Thanks MSM! Now on to Ernesto!
posted by SirOmega at 3:21 PM on August 28, 2006




Christ. Let's all just start confessing to the murder. It'll be like Spartacus.
posted by mr_roboto at 3:23 PM on August 28, 2006 [2 favorites]


I predict good things in this lad's future.
posted by mazola at 3:25 PM on August 28, 2006 [1 favorite]


L-O-f*cking-L.

Pathetic country we live in (apologies to non-USians). We fall for anything.
posted by fourcheesemac at 3:25 PM on August 28, 2006


I knew he was innocent. I could see it in his eyes.
posted by fleetmouse at 3:27 PM on August 28, 2006


Thank god this important matter is settled!

It's not settled until Larry King, Greta Van Susteren, and Nancy Grace say it's settled!
posted by blucevalo at 3:28 PM on August 28, 2006


Many years ago, Hoagy Carmichael wrote a song about a poor unfortunate gentleman in Hong Kong who was pounding the piano to earn the price of a "ticket to the land of the free". It was supposed to be humorous, not ridiculous.
Why are experienced law enforcers so gullible?
posted by Cranberry at 3:30 PM on August 28, 2006


He may be innocent in this case, but that guy sure looks like he molested and killed something.
posted by brain_drain at 3:32 PM on August 28, 2006


He's still wanted for parole/probabtion violations and other smaller scale stuff in California though, right? Just not the big murder.

So he'll still go to jail and get shivved to death, don't you worry.
posted by davros42 at 3:32 PM on August 28, 2006


They are going to tear that prosecutor to bits tonight. Nancy Grace will be admitted to the hospital soon after. They better have fire extingushers on hand when she broadcasts tonight.
posted by Ironmouth at 3:33 PM on August 28, 2006


It's not settled until Larry King, Greta Van Susteren, and Nancy Grace say it's settled!

This is not resolved! I have pressure!
posted by ludwig_van at 3:34 PM on August 28, 2006 [2 favorites]


At least he got some free, first-class airline food out of the deal.
posted by bjork24 at 3:36 PM on August 28, 2006


It was business class airline food.

Hardly worth it. First class would be worth it.
posted by Sheppagus at 3:48 PM on August 28, 2006


Er, so... there's two of these guys in the family's circle of aquaintances?
posted by scheptech at 3:50 PM on August 28, 2006


I knew he didn't do it.

I'm pretty sure he shot Kennedy tho'.
posted by mazola at 3:51 PM on August 28, 2006 [1 favorite]


Let's all just start confessing to the murder. It'll be like Spartacus.

Better yet, we could go the Agatha Christie route and have a few select MeFites do their best Hercule Poiroit impressions!
posted by Smart Dalek at 3:52 PM on August 28, 2006


He just wanted to leave thailand in style, probably to escape the death penalty for something (like child molestation or marijuana possesion).
posted by Citizen Premier at 3:54 PM on August 28, 2006


I kinda want to see Ashton Kutcher pop up and declare that he has "punk'd" the entire news media.

Downside, that would involve having to see Ashton Kutcher.
posted by infidelpants at 4:00 PM on August 28, 2006 [1 favorite]


Let's see if Korea responds to his innocense as well as, from what I gather, they responded to his presumed guilt.
posted by Bugbread at 4:05 PM on August 28, 2006


I said it was the parents that did it, and I maintained this position after they found this guy... I feel better today.
posted by LoopSouth at 4:06 PM on August 28, 2006


bugbread writes "Let's see if Korea responds to his innocense as well as, from what I gather, they responded to his presumed guilt."

bugbread, I have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds like an interesting angle. Details?
posted by mr_roboto at 4:09 PM on August 28, 2006


This is so incredibly unsurprising and really shouldn't have even been FPP'd. I was so pissed that the media bothered to start declaring the muder "SOLVED!!!!eleven" when all they had was a confession. Yeah he's obviously fucked up, but JESUS, maybe you want some EVIDENCE beofre you start declaring cases closed?
posted by piratebowling at 4:14 PM on August 28, 2006


Evidence? Who needs evidence?
posted by blucevalo at 4:21 PM on August 28, 2006


I wonder if any single piece of the media at all will apologize for reporting this shit endlessly instead of real news for 2 weeks?
posted by amberglow at 4:24 PM on August 28, 2006


"Now on CNN: Did we rush to say that we rushed to say that the parents were guilty?"
posted by Artw at 4:27 PM on August 28, 2006


I'm just itching to see tomorrow's cover of the NY Post!
posted by arialblack at 4:31 PM on August 28, 2006


Like the "public" wants anything other than stories like this? If they did you'd see the networks rush to be in front of the new direction.

Face it, the public laps that shit up. Little blonde girls are #1 on the minds of Americans. They make ratings. Ratings sell ad space. Ad space reminds us what we need to consume. We consume to forget. Something. A war I think.

I'm not suprised this story wasn't big on Metafilter. It's easy for us to complain because, after all, we're smarter than the American public.
posted by ?! at 4:36 PM on August 28, 2006


Jeff Wells has a single pervert theory
posted by hortense at 4:37 PM on August 28, 2006


mr_roboto : "bugbread, I have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds like an interesting angle. Details?"

It's somewhat buried in here (an interesting read in its own right) about how there's been a backlash against foreign English teachers in Korea due to a few sex scandals, and it's been all over the news. Then, hot on the tail of it, John Mark Karr gets arrested for the JonBenet thing, and it turns out that he, apparently, was once an English teacher in Korea, which just threw more oil onto the "foreign English teachers are sex perverts and criminals". And considering that the press made a big deal about one sex scandal (dunno the details, as my whole knowledge comes from that article), but then ignored the fact that it later turned out that the scandal involved no foreigners, and instead just kept fanning the anti-foreign teacher sentiment, I'm curious whether this acquittal will be recognized, or just swept under the rug and treated as "well, he may not have been a murderer, but the fact that they suspected him in the first place just serves as evidence that they're all sexual predators after all".
posted by Bugbread at 4:41 PM on August 28, 2006


?! : "Face it, the public laps that shit up. Little blonde girls are #1 on the minds of Americans. They make ratings. Ratings sell ad space. Ad space reminds us what we need to consume. We consume to forget."

So who is JonBenet Ramsey, anyway? I bought a guitar last week, and now I seem to have forgotten.
posted by Bugbread at 4:42 PM on August 28, 2006 [1 favorite]


So in other words, the 24/7 coverage of the whole thing was just a fat fucking waste of time.

Why, yes - yes, it was. I thought you knew that already.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 4:48 PM on August 28, 2006


the small detail that he wasn't even born yet shouldn't stop some careful federal prosecutor to investigate Karr for the JFK murder

I've only skimmed a few stories about this shit, but God it's funny. at least we got the Jon Stewart airplane toilet skit out of this shame.

liberal media lol
posted by matteo at 4:50 PM on August 28, 2006


I wonder if I'll be able to read/watch this in the news? Thank goodness for MeFi!
posted by NationalKato at 4:50 PM on August 28, 2006


From Rob Cordry: 'Old Pervert McMurder Man' (while he has his head coming out of the toilet bowl).

Classic!
posted by i_am_a_Jedi at 4:56 PM on August 28, 2006


So I guess my question is why confess to something you have a pretty good idea can be proved you did not do? Any thoughts? A weird need for the spotlight? A way to avoid lesser charges?
posted by beetsuits at 5:17 PM on August 28, 2006


attention? scrounging for relevance? batshitinsane?
posted by owhydididoit at 5:27 PM on August 28, 2006


Maybe he's launching a singing career.
posted by mr_roboto at 5:29 PM on August 28, 2006


It's a lucky thing that nothing else newsworthy happened during the last couple of weeks.
posted by homunculus at 5:34 PM on August 28, 2006


If it hadn't been this it would have been something else. The media dropping the ball on actually important matters has, in recent years, not been the exception, but rather par for the course.
posted by clevershark at 5:38 PM on August 28, 2006


Nifong wouldn't have dropped the charges.
posted by mischief at 5:51 PM on August 28, 2006


why confess to something you have a pretty good idea can be proved you did not do?

He didn't confess, did he? I thought he said that he was there when she died and that it was an accident.
posted by eustacescrubb at 5:58 PM on August 28, 2006


It was his get-out-of-Thailand-jail-free card.
posted by kirkaracha at 6:08 PM on August 28, 2006


Plus, he got king prawns. And champagne.
posted by yhbc at 6:16 PM on August 28, 2006


?! writes "Like the 'public' wants anything other than stories like this?"

?! writes "Face it, the public laps that shit up."

Whoa what an interesting angle, I think they call it in the analogy club : come on, you know you like to eat chocolate powered shit!

Could be, but that still would be networks giving shit instead of half decent stuff. Surprisingly, shit remains shit no matter what dressing.
posted by elpapacito at 6:17 PM on August 28, 2006


So in other words, the 24/7 coverage of the whole thing was just a fat fucking waste of time.

24/7 coverage of anything is a fat fucking waste of time by definition.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 6:29 PM on August 28, 2006


The real question is: what real news was snuck by as the nation was distracted by insignificance? (Or, maybe, do they even need to distract us anymore?)
posted by luckypozzo at 6:30 PM on August 28, 2006


It was his get-out-of-Thailand-jail-free card.

He wasn't being held in Thailand on any local charges, although it was reported otherwise when the story first broke. He was arrested only at the behest of the Colorado prosecutor, not because had committed any crime in Thailand.
posted by Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese at 6:37 PM on August 28, 2006


...Why am I supposed to give a shit about this again? I forgot. Oh wait that's right - I NEVER gave a shit about this! Boy! Gee whiz! That was a close one. Speaking of the winter of 1996, does anybody know whatever happened to this asshole? Oh, that's right - nobody in their right mind gives a shit about him either! Wow! Sure has been fun to walk down memory lane.
posted by ZachsMind at 6:55 PM on August 28, 2006


This guy is going to have one hell of a time on his next job search.
posted by BigSky at 7:25 PM on August 28, 2006


Abeer who?
posted by homunculus at 7:32 PM on August 28, 2006


I just saw 8.23 seconds of Nancy Grace doing her best to Give Her All to the cause of chasing him down for his misdemeanors. Then a blood vessel popped in my left eye and that was that for Ms. Grace et. al.
posted by disclaimer at 8:02 PM on August 28, 2006


I knew he was innocent. I could see it in his eyes.

Yeah I knew it was bullshit. He was going to be charged with some crime in Thailand and he wanted to see the US one last time (or perhaps spend the rest of his life in a U.S. prison rather then a Thai one)
posted by delmoi at 9:05 PM on August 28, 2006


My dachshund killed JonBenet.
posted by telstar at 9:07 PM on August 28, 2006


At least the press didn't jump to any conclusions and start all kind of baseless insinuations when the police had already...informed them...uh...
posted by Smedleyman at 9:08 PM on August 28, 2006


He wasn't being held in Thailand on any local charges, although it was reported otherwise when the story first broke. He was arrested only at the behest of the Colorado prosecutor, not because had committed any crime in Thailand.

What? So... what was this all about then!? Why did he do it?
posted by delmoi at 9:13 PM on August 28, 2006


What? So... what was this all about then!? Why did he do it?

Spaulding Grey's last line in Swimming to Cambodia is "I suddenly thought I knew what killed Marilyn Monroe."
posted by SPrintF at 9:32 PM on August 28, 2006


Personally, I can't wait to see what the Toronto Sun will have to say about it.
posted by greatgefilte at 10:07 PM on August 28, 2006


This is the ultimate mastibatory news story. He's a Frankenstein created by the media to fill a desperate need expressed by the media. It never mattered whether John Mark Karr was guilty or not. It was just about having that next super potent hysterical news story to occupy the American psyche (a la OJ) for the next year or two. I'm half hoping Karr isn't completely loony toon (fat chance I know) and this is one of the most brillant acts of media subversions ever.
posted by Skygazer at 10:17 PM on August 28, 2006 [1 favorite]


elpapacito: "Could be, but that still would be networks giving shit instead of half decent stuff."

True and my point. The networks lead with this type of story simply because they make money doing so. Complain all you* want about the dumbing down and misdirection of the media, but a great many hands still turn that channel selector to CNN, FOX, or (your favorite national newscast).


* Not you, but you.
posted by ?! at 10:31 PM on August 28, 2006


WTF? So in other words, the 24/7 coverage of the whole thing was just a fat fucking waste of time. Thanks MSM!




I'm not suprised this story wasn't big on Metafilter. It's easy for us to complain because, after all, we're smarter than the American public.

53 comments total
216 comments total
63 comments... and counting!

Uh, could someone please break my arm? I keep trying to pat myself on the back but I can't.... quite... reach...
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:56 PM on August 28, 2006


According to the AP via the Chron he had just got a teaching job in Thailand and...

Authorities confirmed he was involved with at least one of the girls, Lacy said.

Maybe the media frenzy didn't solve the JonBenet murder but at least Karr got kicked out of Thailand and there's a good chance he'll be spending some time in jail in California.
posted by rdr at 11:05 PM on August 28, 2006


I was never an MSM-basher until this oozing sore of a story came back. Not one media outlet pointed out that here was a doof who claimed to have tracked down and murdered a famous little girl who only became famous after she was... murdered. His incredibly lame, totally uncreative lie got the same respect and kid-glove treatment that the White House's PR turds get whenever there's a new terror alert or arrest (see the recent bogus British liquid-bomb scare as an example). What happened to a skeptical press? Yeesh.
posted by turducken at 11:32 PM on August 28, 2006


It's somewhat buried in here (an interesting read in its own right)

That post and my most recent semi-related one at my new site made the (Korean) papers today.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 1:03 AM on August 29, 2006


I love how the reporter even asked the fuckstick 'are you an innocent man?'
why? would that have changed anything?
isn't it a much better story this way?
and to think people softened their outlook on poor old dead mum, who never got to see whodunit.

frak me.

good thing everything's okeedokee in Lebanon now, eh?
posted by Busithoth at 1:16 AM on August 29, 2006


Test your blogs influence:
1) Pick a rich white girl whose been missing for 5 tp 10 years, but whome nobody gives a shit about,
2) Post about her 5 times over 1 month, and
3) See if major news stations pick up the story.
posted by jeffburdges at 1:54 AM on August 29, 2006


For the record, credit to mr_crash_davis, SPrintF, frogan, cribcage, bim, and the few other commentors who suggested against automatically jumping to a conclusion just because there was a media headline. And credit to the many more who chose not to express a position "just in case". But for the group whose knees jerked—the "see the parents didn't do it after all... how horrible for them" crowd—perhaps there's a moral to this story.
posted by CodeBaloo at 5:07 AM on August 29, 2006


jeffburdges: Missing, or dead?

Here's a missing one....
posted by pax digita at 5:10 AM on August 29, 2006


I'm more than a little disappointed, actually.
I was really hoping that this guy was going to the the "little fish" that was going to blow-open the whole Little-Girl-Beauty-Pageants-As-A-Front-For-World-Wide-Kiddie-Porn-Production.

Maybe he was just the cameraman at the latest Jon Benet production when things got out of hand and turned into a kiddie-snuff film. Subsequently, he was paid-off by the Ramseys and shipped off to Asia to disappear and keep quiet.

Obviously, with the mid-term elections coming, I need a huge amount of distraction...
posted by Thorzdad at 5:27 AM on August 29, 2006


Thorzdad : "Maybe he was just the cameraman at the latest Jon Benet production when things got out of hand and turned into a kiddie-snuff film."

A person accidentally dying on film does not make a film a snuff film. Snuff is intentional.
posted by Bugbread at 5:41 AM on August 29, 2006


John Mark Karr's actions were probably just a scam to get extradition to the U.S. Heck, I'd tell people I started the Chicago fire while molesting Mrs. O'Leary's cow if it got me out of an Asian prison.
posted by jonp72 at 6:30 AM on August 29, 2006


jonp72 : "I'd tell people I started the Chicago fire while molesting Mrs. O'Leary's cow if it got me out of an Asian prison."

Yes, but apparently he was only in prison because he said he started the Chicago fire while molesting Mrs. O'Leary's cow.
posted by Bugbread at 6:45 AM on August 29, 2006


I knew he was OK when I read he drives a DeLorean.
posted by StickyCarpet at 6:48 AM on August 29, 2006


Ummm, dude, best of the web and all that? At least post the good stuff:


Emails from Karr to Tracey (enormo pdf but amazingly creepy reading)

Arrest warrant, which distills the emails somewhat and adds search warrant info and a timeline of their contacts with Karr. Also an exciting rundown of how they found him.

Mp3s of phone calls between Tracey and Karr
posted by CunningLinguist at 7:31 AM on August 29, 2006


Uh, Alvy, you did get I was being sarcastic, right? My wife warned me I needed one of those [/sarcasm] tags. I'm just checking. Damn, I got to improve my sarcasm filter.
posted by ?! at 9:08 AM on August 29, 2006


I was on the fence about it("Is he? Isn't he?"), before I decided to err on the side of snarktion.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:51 AM on August 29, 2006


supposedly 60 people admitted to being the Black Dahlia way back when, and i think other serial killers have had people saying they were them as well and weren't.
posted by amberglow at 1:31 PM on August 29, 2006


And---why was DHS involved in all of this? Anyone know? Why would they be?
posted by amberglow at 1:34 PM on August 29, 2006




I think his real reason in confessing to crimes he apparently didn't commit was because he wanted Johnny Depp to star as him in a movie about the killing of JonBenet. He reckons it would have made $1 billion.
posted by Effigy2000 at 3:51 PM on August 29, 2006


I think his real reason in confessing to crimes he apparently didn't commit was because he wanted Johnny Depp to star as him in a movie about the killing of JonBenet. He reckons it would have made $1 billion.
posted by Effigy2000 at 3:51 PM on August 29, 2006


I think his real reason in confessing to crimes he apparently didn't commit was because he wanted Johnny Depp to star as him in a movie about the killing of JonBenet. He reckons it would have made $1 billion.
posted by Effigy2000 at 3:51 PM on August 29, 2006


Patsy's patsy
posted by hortense at 4:28 PM on August 29, 2006


But what if his real reason in confessing to crimes he apparently didn't commit was because he wanted Johnny Depp to star as him in a movie about the killing of JonBenet?
posted by Kirth Gerson at 4:53 PM on August 29, 2006 [1 favorite]


I suspect he wanted Johnny Depp to star as him in a movie about him pretending to be guilty in order to get Johnny Depp to star as him in a movie about the killing of JonBenet.
posted by Bugbread at 4:56 PM on August 29, 2006


Actually, I heard Johnny Depp killed JonBenet because he wanted this guy to play him in the movie.
posted by Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese at 6:14 PM on August 29, 2006


Hard news!
posted by homunculus at 7:29 PM on August 29, 2006


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