Ron Kind: pretty much responsible for the WTC attacks
October 19, 2006 4:22 PM Subscribe
I'm Paul R Nelson, and I approve of this message anything that might get me elected. Why? Well, his congressman Ron Kind is the (cue menacing music) WRONG KIND. For starters, he pays for sex, but not soldiers (wmv). On top of that, he also voted to let illegal aliens burn the American flag (wmv). But worst of all? Because of him, we're dependent for oil on islamic fascists and nations that support terrorism. Elect Paul R Nelson, and he'll finish the job he started 23 years ago (wmv). Best. Smear ads. Ever. Check out the radio ads and his photo collection for even more stomach-churning right-wing meretriciousness.
Paul R Nelson's voice is very nasely and annoying. It sucks for him (and everyone within range of one of his ads) that campaign laws force him to actually speak during his ads.
posted by aburd at 4:32 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by aburd at 4:32 PM on October 19, 2006
The web designer is using the not-entirely-web-2.0 trick of randomly rotating the banner, but the image Ironmouth is referring to is here.
posted by gsteff at 4:32 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by gsteff at 4:32 PM on October 19, 2006
I'm sorry, I missed the part where this turned into metaKos.
posted by scrump at 4:33 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by scrump at 4:33 PM on October 19, 2006
Also, Ron Kind killed 24 people in the caves of Tibet.
posted by gsteff at 4:34 PM on October 19, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by gsteff at 4:34 PM on October 19, 2006 [1 favorite]
Boy, that Ron Kind sounds like a real prick. I wish I could move to Wisconsin & vote against him!
posted by jonson at 4:34 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by jonson at 4:34 PM on October 19, 2006
Man, that NIH "sex studies" talking point is the most crazy tactic that the GOP has come up with in years. That said, the Dems should be using it against every Republican incumbent. Hell, turn about is fair play.
posted by mr_roboto at 4:39 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by mr_roboto at 4:39 PM on October 19, 2006
The only thing worse than Ron Kind is Paul R. Nelson's voice. It sounds like a parody of what a politician sounds like.
posted by mathowie at 4:41 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by mathowie at 4:41 PM on October 19, 2006
Wisconson? Since when is wisconson a hotbed of anti gay, anti-immigrant hysteria?
I've seen those "Sex study" ads and in some of them they go into details "connecting probes to the genitals of teenage girls, and showing them pornography!" Pretty crazy.
Still, this has to be the best worst campaign ad so far, done by the guy who directed "Scary movie" and it's sequels.
posted by delmoi at 4:41 PM on October 19, 2006 [1 favorite]
I've seen those "Sex study" ads and in some of them they go into details "connecting probes to the genitals of teenage girls, and showing them pornography!" Pretty crazy.
Still, this has to be the best worst campaign ad so far, done by the guy who directed "Scary movie" and it's sequels.
posted by delmoi at 4:41 PM on October 19, 2006 [1 favorite]
For you Mac campers out there, that voice at the end of the ad you think you recognize but can't quite place is "Fred" from your Speech Control Panel.
posted by hal9k at 4:48 PM on October 19, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by hal9k at 4:48 PM on October 19, 2006 [1 favorite]
Wow, Ron Kind sure sounds like a dick.
Sure am glad there's a dweeby-sounding guy to vote for!
posted by craven_morhead at 4:50 PM on October 19, 2006
Sure am glad there's a dweeby-sounding guy to vote for!
posted by craven_morhead at 4:50 PM on October 19, 2006
Don't think "meretriciousness" is the intended word, but anyway, it looks as if Ron Kind's a goner unless he has a really good spin doctor handy.
posted by QuietDesperation at 4:51 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by QuietDesperation at 4:51 PM on October 19, 2006
I believe the "sex study" ad originated with Vernon Robinson's campaign here in NC-13. He got hilariously bitchslapped on it by Alan Colmes, of all people.
posted by EarBucket at 4:54 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by EarBucket at 4:54 PM on October 19, 2006
QuietDesperation writes "...it looks as if Ron Kind's a goner unless he has a really good spin doctor handy."
Are you kidding? This is a safe seat; Kind will win by 20 points, easy.
posted by mr_roboto at 4:55 PM on October 19, 2006
Are you kidding? This is a safe seat; Kind will win by 20 points, easy.
posted by mr_roboto at 4:55 PM on October 19, 2006
The comments posted underneath that Zucker ad are ridiculous. It bothers me to know that such people exist.
For me, the problem with these negative ads is not that it serves to alienate me from the process, it's that it makes me hate other Americans. Knowing that there are masses of fucktards out there that swallow this shit unflinchingly depresses me more than I can say.
posted by psmealey at 5:02 PM on October 19, 2006
For me, the problem with these negative ads is not that it serves to alienate me from the process, it's that it makes me hate other Americans. Knowing that there are masses of fucktards out there that swallow this shit unflinchingly depresses me more than I can say.
posted by psmealey at 5:02 PM on October 19, 2006
I'm sorry, I missed the part where this turned into metaKos.
Don't worry about it, it happened so quickly most of us did. I think you may have been in the bathroom at the time.
The only thing worse than Ron Kind is Paul R. Nelson's voice. It sounds like a parody of what a politician sounds andlike.
Isn't it great? I was actually doing a parody of him while some friends and I were watching it the first time and when he came on and sounded almost identical, well, it iced that fucking cake over.
Don't think "meretriciousness" is the intended word
Yeah... I went looking for a word in the thesaurus, because I couldn't think of one to describe the image-centric, content-lacking displays meant to instill feeling and avoid thought that are so prevalent in politics. I found meretriciousness and I liked it, so I used it. Stomach-churning was perhaps not the best choice, either, but hey, the post is already there, so there's not much I can do now.
delmoi: Are you sure it's the same ad? Because it's kind of ripped off. Wisconsin is definately not a hotbed of anti-gay, anti-immigrant feeling, but the district he's running for (See "Why Paul Will Win" section) is the most republican in the state and he seems relatively incompetent, so he probably just decided to use tactics that some other republicans are using. Also, I didn't think it was possible, but you may have topped me with that ad, though it is missing the low-budget feel that give these that certain personal charm.
Has anyone gotten to the Vote forPedro Paul shirts yet? Or the radio ad wherein he accuses Ron Kind of twice trying to destroy the institution of marriage.
I feel I should perhaps emphasize that I posted it because it's funny, not for any important political reasons. If it is upsetting you, I recommend ingesting your intoxicant of choice and re-viewing it. It is an unintentionally over-the-top paraody of what it intends to be and that is hilarious, regardless of who is doing it or what party they belong to. I'm sure there's a word for that, too. Anyone want to help me out?
posted by nTeleKy at 5:25 PM on October 19, 2006
Don't worry about it, it happened so quickly most of us did. I think you may have been in the bathroom at the time.
The only thing worse than Ron Kind is Paul R. Nelson's voice. It sounds like a parody of what a politician sounds andlike.
Isn't it great? I was actually doing a parody of him while some friends and I were watching it the first time and when he came on and sounded almost identical, well, it iced that fucking cake over.
Don't think "meretriciousness" is the intended word
Yeah... I went looking for a word in the thesaurus, because I couldn't think of one to describe the image-centric, content-lacking displays meant to instill feeling and avoid thought that are so prevalent in politics. I found meretriciousness and I liked it, so I used it. Stomach-churning was perhaps not the best choice, either, but hey, the post is already there, so there's not much I can do now.
delmoi: Are you sure it's the same ad? Because it's kind of ripped off. Wisconsin is definately not a hotbed of anti-gay, anti-immigrant feeling, but the district he's running for (See "Why Paul Will Win" section) is the most republican in the state and he seems relatively incompetent, so he probably just decided to use tactics that some other republicans are using. Also, I didn't think it was possible, but you may have topped me with that ad, though it is missing the low-budget feel that give these that certain personal charm.
Has anyone gotten to the Vote for
I feel I should perhaps emphasize that I posted it because it's funny, not for any important political reasons. If it is upsetting you, I recommend ingesting your intoxicant of choice and re-viewing it. It is an unintentionally over-the-top paraody of what it intends to be and that is hilarious, regardless of who is doing it or what party they belong to. I'm sure there's a word for that, too. Anyone want to help me out?
posted by nTeleKy at 5:25 PM on October 19, 2006
For me, the problem with these negative ads is not that it serves to alienate me from the process, it's that it makes me hate other Americans. Knowing that there are masses of fucktards out there that swallow this shit unflinchingly depresses me more than I can say.
Not me. It makes me feel alive, vital, and superior. Content in the knowledge that my offspring who are well armed with my values, guile, and experience, will forever dominate the fuck-tard masses of the ever-more obese and retarded US of A. If not here in America — a land, once great, but now fading— then soon from our new homes in the EU or Canada or where ever it appears people to share our same values and welcome skilled intelligent people.
posted by tkchrist at 5:40 PM on October 19, 2006
Not me. It makes me feel alive, vital, and superior. Content in the knowledge that my offspring who are well armed with my values, guile, and experience, will forever dominate the fuck-tard masses of the ever-more obese and retarded US of A. If not here in America — a land, once great, but now fading— then soon from our new homes in the EU or Canada or where ever it appears people to share our same values and welcome skilled intelligent people.
posted by tkchrist at 5:40 PM on October 19, 2006
Knowing that there are masses of fucktards out there that swallow this shit unflinchingly depresses me more than I can say.
I think you misspelled "assuming."
posted by aaronetc at 6:19 PM on October 19, 2006
I think you misspelled "assuming."
posted by aaronetc at 6:19 PM on October 19, 2006
Good job putting a negative spin on a congressman defending the constitutional rights of his constintuents, Paul R Nelson.
Ron Kind seems like the right kind to me. Too bad I can't vote for him. because I don't live in the boondocks. Excuse me, I meant I don't live in 1952. No, no, I mean Wisconsin.
posted by Titania at 6:52 PM on October 19, 2006
Ron Kind seems like the right kind to me. Too bad I can't vote for him. because I don't live in the boondocks. Excuse me, I meant I don't live in 1952. No, no, I mean Wisconsin.
posted by Titania at 6:52 PM on October 19, 2006
Wisconson? Since when is wisconson a hotbed of anti gay, anti-immigrant hysteria?
Wisconsin is a bellwether state -- our state popular vote percentages are often very close to national popular vote percentages. We've gone blue in every election since '88, but just barely (5000 votes in 2000), and we elected Tommy Thompson as Governor four times. (How the man was ever considered Homeland Security or Vice Presidential material is beyond me. Great example of the Peter Principle.) And certainly we have other jackasses we've sent to Washington such as James Sensenbrenner. And despite the fact that we have Madison (Berkeley on the Lake) and send the only openly lesbian Congresswoman to Washington, Tammy Baldwin, we're still likely going to enact a ridiculous gay-marriage ban and for the first time since 1851, a state death penalty.
posted by dhartung at 7:35 PM on October 19, 2006
Wisconsin is a bellwether state -- our state popular vote percentages are often very close to national popular vote percentages. We've gone blue in every election since '88, but just barely (5000 votes in 2000), and we elected Tommy Thompson as Governor four times. (How the man was ever considered Homeland Security or Vice Presidential material is beyond me. Great example of the Peter Principle.) And certainly we have other jackasses we've sent to Washington such as James Sensenbrenner. And despite the fact that we have Madison (Berkeley on the Lake) and send the only openly lesbian Congresswoman to Washington, Tammy Baldwin, we're still likely going to enact a ridiculous gay-marriage ban and for the first time since 1851, a state death penalty.
posted by dhartung at 7:35 PM on October 19, 2006
Wisconson? Since when is wisconson a hotbed of anti gay, anti-immigrant hysteria?
It is and it isn't. I'm represented by the fantastically anti-immigrant James Sensenbrenner who will (sadly) probably win re-election for the umpteenth time in November, but I'm also represented in the Senate by Russ Feingold, who was reelected by his biggest margin yet after voting against the Patriot Act. As for being anti-gay, well, if things go well on Election Day, we'll be the first state to reject a ban on gay marriage. On the same day, we'll also probably vote to reinstitute the death penalty after 150 years without it.
I think the biggest mistake that people make in trying to understand the gap between liberal and conservative voters is that they look at it on a state-by-state basis. There are liberals in Texas and conservatives in New York (and probably more of each than people think). Wisconsin just happens to be split more closely between the two than other states, which is why you end up with wildly disparate elected officials like Feingold and Sensenbrenner.
posted by anjamu at 7:38 PM on October 19, 2006
It is and it isn't. I'm represented by the fantastically anti-immigrant James Sensenbrenner who will (sadly) probably win re-election for the umpteenth time in November, but I'm also represented in the Senate by Russ Feingold, who was reelected by his biggest margin yet after voting against the Patriot Act. As for being anti-gay, well, if things go well on Election Day, we'll be the first state to reject a ban on gay marriage. On the same day, we'll also probably vote to reinstitute the death penalty after 150 years without it.
I think the biggest mistake that people make in trying to understand the gap between liberal and conservative voters is that they look at it on a state-by-state basis. There are liberals in Texas and conservatives in New York (and probably more of each than people think). Wisconsin just happens to be split more closely between the two than other states, which is why you end up with wildly disparate elected officials like Feingold and Sensenbrenner.
posted by anjamu at 7:38 PM on October 19, 2006
They shouldn't have used Nelson's voice, they shouldn't have used 9/11 footage, and I'm lukewarm about merging "Ron Kind sucks" and "Paul Nelson rocks" into the same ad — but otherwise, those are pretty textbook and I'd expect them to prove effective.
posted by cribcage at 7:41 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by cribcage at 7:41 PM on October 19, 2006
Reminds me of this Mr. Show sketch about Harrison Greeley III, McHutchence and Reverend Anders sketch...
Classic riff on these types of commercials...
posted by symbioid at 7:43 PM on October 19, 2006
Classic riff on these types of commercials...
posted by symbioid at 7:43 PM on October 19, 2006
Oh, dhartung, your poll link makes me sad. The last I heard was that the gay marriage ban wasn't going to pass. I got my absentee ballot today and read the actual language for the first time, and it's quite far-reaching in terms of its effects on heterosexuals as well, I would think. It's too bad, they've done a fantastic campaign against it.
posted by anjamu at 7:45 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by anjamu at 7:45 PM on October 19, 2006
Check the second item here. Apparently, Nelson is not just desperate, he's a laughing stock.
posted by wendell at 7:59 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by wendell at 7:59 PM on October 19, 2006
James Sensenbrenner beats prostitutes to death with his gavel.
posted by homunculus at 8:00 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by homunculus at 8:00 PM on October 19, 2006
The Truth About Ron Kind
What voters need to know about my opponent:
Ron Kind's lifetime rating according to the American Conservative Union is 15 out of 100!
Well, that was quick. Why don't more candidates make it this easy for me to decide?
posted by Joybooth at 8:59 PM on October 19, 2006
What voters need to know about my opponent:
Ron Kind's lifetime rating according to the American Conservative Union is 15 out of 100!
Well, that was quick. Why don't more candidates make it this easy for me to decide?
posted by Joybooth at 8:59 PM on October 19, 2006
I think you misspelled "assuming."
I think the data show conclusively that these types of ads are effective in moving voters' opinions, so no, I didn't. Nice try, though.
posted by psmealey at 2:31 AM on October 20, 2006
I think the data show conclusively that these types of ads are effective in moving voters' opinions, so no, I didn't. Nice try, though.
posted by psmealey at 2:31 AM on October 20, 2006
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