A rack? You mean titties? Like a really big rack?
February 15, 2007 1:43 PM   Subscribe

 
If we could somehow kill the people who sit around talking about the Iraq war, just use an automatic weapon say and kill them all, then that would put an end to a lot of negative energy, wouldn't it.

We could also ban war movies while we are at it.

I've been looking forward to some feature films about Reiki massage.
posted by nervousfritz at 1:49 PM on February 15, 2007


fap fap fap.

Yes, aren't we all better than celebrities. ::yawn::
posted by SeizeTheDay at 1:53 PM on February 15, 2007


Well, for some people denial can be a very effective coping strategy. Detestful Pitiable, but what would gunning them all down do?
posted by porpoise at 1:54 PM on February 15, 2007


I don't think these people are necessarily any more vapid or worthless than people not in Prada. Apathy is apathy.
posted by Sticherbeast at 1:57 PM on February 15, 2007


Interior designer Brinton Brewster, 38, was also very upset..."Unfortunately, the 'fabulous people' get a bad rap..."

Umm, wow. Brinton Brewster is, I presume, a "fabulous" person? And he's upset that we think that since he's so fabulous, he couldn't possibly care about Iraq? This article is just so confusing - why would anyone care about the thoughts of the idle class vis-à-vis Iraq? Or anything non-fabulous, for that matter?
posted by Banky_Edwards at 1:58 PM on February 15, 2007


"Negative energy"?

...does this girl have a crystal around her neck and tout the use of Therapeutic Touch?
posted by Target Practice at 1:58 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


tag: lolcelebs
posted by grouse at 2:01 PM on February 15, 2007


BREAKING: Rich, Shallow Morons Say Hilariously Awful Things

Brings to mind Britney Spears talking about George W. Bush in Fahrenheit 9/11:
"I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that."
posted by ericb at 2:02 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


ericb

That quote makes me wonder why she wasn't nominated to the Supreme Court.
posted by Target Practice at 2:03 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


Lot's of people are "not interested in politics". In fact, a lot of people aren't interested in much of anything. Go on a social networking or dating site and view. Or just go out to a bar or club and ask around.

Most of the people in the interview seem to have an opinion that's not particularly outrageous (and since they're quoted, I'll give the benefit of the doubt that their full answers contained more analysis).

Ergo, was the point to look at how moronic this princeton hippie sounds? Or just a choice funnier quote from the melange?
posted by kigpig at 2:04 PM on February 15, 2007


"Next up was a blond woman in her late 30’s. She was wearing a black fedora from the men’s department at Bergdorf Goodman, a black Moschino dress and shoes by Christian Loubouton. I asked her about Iraq.

'A rack? You mean titties? Like a really big rack?'"

Oy, vey!
posted by ericb at 2:05 PM on February 15, 2007


Unfortunately, the fabulous people get a bad rap

Tell me about it!

*holds back of hand to forehead*
posted by brundlefly at 2:05 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


"I’m a mother, and every day in Iraq somebody is losing their child. My little girl will never go to Iraq. I’m sorry, she’ll go to Prada.'"

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry!
posted by ericb at 2:06 PM on February 15, 2007


I asked what she’d rather be talking about.

“My daughter. Shoes. Handbags. Fashionistas to laugh at...


Huh.
posted by delmoi at 2:06 PM on February 15, 2007


They're in da club -- very loud, very crowded -- to get and/or be vapid and show off, not discourse on the war. Sorry, unsane, I call fish-in-a-barrel FPP.
posted by thinkpiece at 2:07 PM on February 15, 2007


kigpig, I bet you're fabulous at parties
posted by unSane at 2:08 PM on February 15, 2007


delmoi -- you forgot the end of her statement: "Waxing the undercarriage—from your poonnany to your back door. It’s fucking painful."

Those $350 bottles of vodka must dispense some pretty strong shit, causing one to babble crazy talk.
posted by ericb at 2:08 PM on February 15, 2007


Sorry, unsane, I call fish-in-a-barrel FPP.

sorry, thinkpiece, I call fish-in-a-barrel comment
posted by unSane at 2:09 PM on February 15, 2007


Those $350 bottles of vodka must dispense some pretty strong shit, causing one to babble crazy talk.

You're saying the poonanny < -> back door wax DOESN'T hurt?
posted by unSane at 2:13 PM on February 15, 2007


Some days I wonder why there's been no armed uprising against the Gatsbys of this Gilded Age. Then I see that the top tier is already assumed to be so vapid and venal that it's old news, and the very inertia of their idiocy goes to justify a What Can Ya Do, Film at 11 level of snarking (though, y'know, just once I wish people would realize how fucking run into the ground the fake news snark retorts are).

But hey, jaded apathy is cool, y'know? Whether by the $350 vodka crowd or the schlubs who want to proclaim how bored they are of hearing about the shallow and monied.
posted by klangklangston at 2:14 PM on February 15, 2007


'A rack? You mean titties? Like a really big rack?'"

tits-for-brains
posted by pruner at 2:14 PM on February 15, 2007


You're saying the poonanny < -> back door wax DOESN'T hurt?

No. I'm sure it does hurt! ;-)
posted by ericb at 2:15 PM on February 15, 2007


So this dude went out looking for some Deep Conversation.

He wanted to talk about World Politics.

He wanted to wax (sorry) eloquent on Foreign Policy.

The venue he chose:

Bungalow 8

What is wrong with this picture?
posted by jason's_planet at 2:17 PM on February 15, 2007


Self-important people gather at exclusive NYC club. Pretentious art film at 11.
posted by ninjew at 2:22 PM on February 15, 2007 [3 favorites]


jason's_planet writes "What is wrong with this picture?"

It's a glamorous nightclub populated by the bourgeois elite, arguably those who are "living the dream" that so many in our nation lust after. Since when are their opinions not noteworthy? If they lampoon themselves, so be it.
posted by mullingitover at 2:22 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


Ah, dear, sweet New York. When, before you, has a backwater that's completely disconnected from everything vital not only in world affairs but in the realm of the human spirit been so able to convince itself that it is the most important place in the universe?
posted by koeselitz at 2:24 PM on February 15, 2007


Sorry, unsane, I call fish-in-a-barrel FPP.

sorry, thinkpiece, I call fish-in-a-barrel comment


So, are you saying you knew it was an easy target post?
posted by thinkpiece at 2:30 PM on February 15, 2007


kigpig, I bet you're fabulous at parties

Giving people the benefit of the doubt is SO BORING! Stop pooping on my party! I am entitled to make fun of rich people! If you don't nod approvingly you are a LAME-O! Neener neener!
posted by nasreddin at 2:30 PM on February 15, 2007


Since when are their opinions not noteworthy?

Have you ever met these people?

When, before you, has a backwater that's completely disconnected from everything vital not only in world affairs but in the realm of the human spirit been so able to convince itself that it is the most important place in the universe?

Uncalled for, my friend. Our city has a lot more to it, more substance, more life, than the disco ding-a-lings referenced in the article.
posted by jason's_planet at 2:32 PM on February 15, 2007


Money can't buy you love.
posted by fourcheesemac at 2:32 PM on February 15, 2007


But it can buy you a table at Bungalow 8, and hookers.
posted by fourcheesemac at 2:34 PM on February 15, 2007


Yeah, I'm with thinkpiece; this "survey" was taken at a tony nightclub, after midnight on a Saturday. Christ forbid people want to go out, have a drink, gawk at celebrities, and get their minds off the news for a few hours.

Regarding the quote from Emily in particular: privileged college student gets drunk, says something naive and stupid - film at 11.
posted by rkent at 2:35 PM on February 15, 2007


But it can buy you a table at Bungalow 8, and hookers.

And blow. No use getting hookers without getting hookers-and-blow.
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 2:38 PM on February 15, 2007 [2 favorites]


But it can buy you a table at Bungalow 8, and hookers.

And blow. No use getting hookers without getting hookers-and-blow.
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 2:39 PM on February 15, 2007


This strikes me more as making fun of the drunk and/or drug-addled than the rich. Some of the same people might, if quizzed at a tony clothing store one Wednesday afternoon, give at least as nuanced and considerate an answer as one might come across on, say, a Metafilter thread on the same topic.
posted by breezeway at 2:42 PM on February 15, 2007


So, are you saying you knew it was an easy target post?

Yes and no. Obviously a one-link post to something via Wonkette is hardly going to enter the MetaFilter hall of fame. But on the other hand it wasn't completely vapid. Not all of us spend a great deal at time at Bungalow 8 (although I've been to some similar places in the company of minor celebs and agents) and so this particular prism is an interesting way to view them. You might think it's fish-in-a-barrel but I think that's a pretty jaded point of view. To me, it's not so much shooting fish in a barrel, as admiring their pretty but fucked up colours.

I do think that , on the whole, 'ho hum, what a boring FPP' comments are cheaper, easier, and more boring than the FPP they attach themselves to. A cheap shot at a cheap shot is still a cheap shot.
posted by unSane at 2:52 PM on February 15, 2007


Don't really see the point. Is someone trying to make a point?
posted by MarshallPoe at 2:57 PM on February 15, 2007


Here's the awesomest part of that Gawkerstalker link:

" Freemans, tuesday night the 16th of nov. the bush twins , along with 2 massive secret service men, tried to have dinner. they were told by the maitre'd that they were full and would be for the next 4 years. upon hearing, the entire restaurant cheered and did a round of shots... it was amazing!!! [Ed: We're hearing that this is actually true.]"
posted by Flashman at 3:01 PM on February 15, 2007


The paper this appears in is in financial trouble, I believe, and this may well help to explain why.
posted by Postroad at 3:02 PM on February 15, 2007


"I’m upset for the American lives that are lost, and the Iraqi lives," he said. "It makes me feel confused about the direction we’ve taken and whether it was for the right cause."
"We were brought into the war under false pretenses, the public was lied to, and we’re creating another generation of terrorists."
Ah ha ha, those stupid rich people and their ridiculous opinions! Wait, what was the point of this article?
posted by designbot at 3:02 PM on February 15, 2007


I don't think cherry picking quotes from drunk people at a bar makes for an inspiring piece of journalism. I love how the writer seems to be fluent in the latest fashions and designers, yet tries to keep some sort of moral distance from the people he "interviews." All in all, this is total crap. What is the value of this fpp? Am I supposed to hate other people for being more vacuous than I? Am I supposed to take this as a cross section of liberal NYers who oppose the war?

unSane, sorry, but this just sucks. Thanks for playing though.

Obviously a one-link post to something via Wonkette is hardly going to enter the MetaFilter hall of fame. But on the other hand it wasn't completely vapid. Not all of us spend a great deal at time at Bungalow 8 (although I've been to some similar places in the company of minor celebs and agents)

Oh, please, help us little people understand the fabulous people better.
posted by elwoodwiles at 3:08 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


Now, I don't doubt for a second that this type of person exists. However, a close friend of mine was present at an event (i'm trying to be vague) that was actually covered by the New York Observer. The article that ran completely misrepresented what had occurred, and, more than just misquoting many of the participants, actively invented many of the details. So, perhaps this is a completely accurate representation of the statements these people made, but the overly flaky quotes have me a bit skeptical.
posted by Doug at 3:10 PM on February 15, 2007


I'm just amazed that people will pay $350 for 750mL of 40% aqueous solution of ethanol. That's like $0.50 of ingredients and a couple of bucks for the bottle.
posted by bonehead at 3:25 PM on February 15, 2007 [2 favorites]


A history major. At Princeton.

Why are stupid, uncurious, shallow people allowed to go to the most elite universities in the world?

Oh...right: they have money.
posted by inoculatedcities at 3:26 PM on February 15, 2007


Those fratboys in Borat were misrepresented as well. Because they didn't mean to look like idiots.
posted by Astro Zombie at 3:32 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


I personally can't resist a fluff piece about empty headed, trendy fuckwads that makes me want to hop on a northbound Chinatown bus shouldering a flamethrower, some wooden stakes and a couple lengths of strong rope to go cook me up some people satays on the streets of the meat packing district. Thumbs up from over here.
posted by The Straightener at 3:34 PM on February 15, 2007


You're right everyone, no one should go out, party, and have a good time . . . Ever. You want informed opinions? Don't get them from high partiers.
posted by gorgor_balabala at 3:38 PM on February 15, 2007


He looked around Bungalow 8. “Do you think the Iraqis Midwesterners, little villagers in Kandahar Iowa, are doing this?” he said. “None of them are. And that’s the sad, awful truth.”
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 3:41 PM on February 15, 2007


Giving people the benefit of the doubt is SO BORING! Stop pooping on my party! I am entitled to make fun of rich people! If you don't nod approvingly you are a LAME-O! Neener neener!

I only meant for the ones that weren't talking about prada and other shallow things which I said were "most" but perhaps "a sizeable portion" would be a better term. There's no real doubt as to the idiocy of the quoted one.

And I AM fun at parties. Until I get thrown out.
posted by kigpig at 3:47 PM on February 15, 2007


I like Fred Armisen. He was in one of my favorite bands.
posted by These Premises Are Alarmed at 3:47 PM on February 15, 2007


Thinking about this post: I have been to gallery openings for actual artists that were every bit as vapid, if not more so. I find that more disconcerting, somehow.

Probably because at least these people don't see themselves as anything other than wealthy.
posted by Sticherbeast at 3:50 PM on February 15, 2007


"Pretentious art film at 11."

ninjew, one new keyboard please, thanx.

People like these are why I don't mind NYC muggers so much.
posted by zoogleplex at 3:53 PM on February 15, 2007


I think maybe they should organize a charity mission providing hookers and blow to the underpriviledged of the world.

This would include me.
Not once have I ever paid for sex or done cocaine.

And that's the sad, awful truth.
posted by Green Eyed Monster at 3:55 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


“I don’t see myself as an American,” she said. “I see myself as a child of a higher being, and I feel privileged to walk this earth with my daughter and my family. The war in Iraq just reminds me of my everyday war.”

"Also, thinking about Hiroshima really connects me to that time I had a terrible sunburn."
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 3:58 PM on February 15, 2007 [4 favorites]


Those NYC muggers sure contribute a lot of negative energy, but at least they don't sit around and postconstructumetally analyze it.
posted by tehloki at 4:01 PM on February 15, 2007


Why are stupid, uncurious, shallow people allowed to go to the most elite universities in the world?
Oh...right: they have money.


Paint us all with the same brush, why don't you? Of course, you're utterly wrong to do so, but I guess you didn't let that stop you.
posted by oaf at 4:05 PM on February 15, 2007


The article that ran completely misrepresented what had occurred, and, more than just misquoting many of the participants, actively invented many of the details.

You clearly didn't get as far as journalism 102.
posted by unSane at 4:08 PM on February 15, 2007


I want to kick these shallow posers square in the balls but I don't think they have any, except some of the women.

Besides, isn't going commando passe now? I can't keep up anymore.
posted by fenriq at 4:09 PM on February 15, 2007


Wow. What a stupid inane thread following a stupid, inane post.

Worst of Metafilter.
posted by vacapinta at 4:12 PM on February 15, 2007 [3 favorites]


I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at trader vic’s.

“You're saying the poonanny < -> back door wax DOESN'T hurt?”
I think merely that if you don’t, it’s not getting admired and eventually licked.

- There is no one who is aggressing Metafilter; it’s just Metafilter aggressing the whole world. My girlfriend is from Metafilter.
Metafilter: I’m always just talking with her about it. And, you know, she hates me for my opinion.

“I think people should enjoy themselves—which I’m not going to stop doing—but at the same time, there should be a level of guilt.”

Funny. I’d think about taking him at his word that he cares about Iraq, Darfur...indeed anything other than himself - but for the fact he refuses to stop partying. Huh. If that doesn’t make just about anyone feel superior, I don’t know what would.

-eurotrash- It’s SO boring in here. Let’s do some coke and have sophisticated anal sex in the alley. -eurotrash/-
posted by Smedleyman at 4:21 PM on February 15, 2007


"I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at trader vic’s."

His hair was PERFECT.


"Paint us all with the same brush, why don't you? Of course, you're utterly wrong to do so, but I guess you didn't let that stop you."

Oaf, you're the same one who didn't get ColdChef's obvious sarcasm a couple days ago in the Man Love Rulez thread, right? Just sayin'.
posted by klangklangston at 4:28 PM on February 15, 2007


Oaf, you're the same one who didn't get ColdChef's obvious sarcasm a couple days ago in the Man Love Rulez thread, right? Just sayin'.

Yes, but most of the country thinks it's true. And unfortunately, there are examples you can point to (after all, only two thirds of undergrads are on financial aid, which means everyone else can afford to plunk down $50k a year without batting an eye).
posted by oaf at 4:38 PM on February 15, 2007


interesting fact about Vietnam:

the war actually ended because a bunch of people who were doing nothing to stop the war read an article about some other people who were also doing nothing to stop the war, but had better clothes, and then the first people felt really smug.

And just like that, the war ended! Maybe it'll happen again!
posted by drjimmy11 at 4:41 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


People like these are why I don't mind NYC muggers so much.

people like these are the reason why I accept the mind-numbingly obvious fact that some people are richer than me, while others are poorer, and then go on about my life without giving the matter any more thought one way or the other.
posted by drjimmy11 at 4:44 PM on February 15, 2007


What a bunch of morons.
posted by Kololo at 4:46 PM on February 15, 2007


Oaf, I don't think inoculatedcities was saying that everyone at good universities is stupid & shallow. He/She's saying that a lot of the stupid/shallow go to good universities.

It's like that logic test they quiz you on in 8th grade: If all the people who like KitKats also like Crispy Crunch, does that mean that all the people who like Crispy Crunch also like Kitkat? (Fyi, the answer is 'no'.)
posted by Kololo at 4:52 PM on February 15, 2007


Regarding the quote from Emily in particular: privileged college student gets drunk, says something naive and stupid - film at 11.

in vino veritas
posted by ericb at 4:53 PM on February 15, 2007


So, what would have been the right answer to the interview questions?
posted by JanetLand at 5:00 PM on February 15, 2007


Uh Oaf, maybe you should switch to decaff. The article pretty clearly documented at least one stupid, uncurious, shallow person at an elite university and somebody wondered how the hell they came to be there. I don't know about anyone else but I expect students at elite universities to by almost entirely not like that.

They way your response reads, you're a stupid, uncurious, shallow person who doesn't have money and/or is not going to an elite university and your angry that we're assuming you are/do.
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 5:06 PM on February 15, 2007


I expect students at elite universities to by almost entirely not like that.

Oh, if only that were true.
posted by grouse at 5:10 PM on February 15, 2007


So, what would have been the right answer to the interview questions?

I don't know, but I'm pretty sure as long as there were people offering the wrong answer, the right answer wouldn't have made it into the article.
posted by juv3nal at 5:14 PM on February 15, 2007


The article pretty clearly documented at least one stupid, uncurious, shallow person at an elite university and somebody wondered how the hell they came to be there. I don't know about anyone else but I expect students at elite universities to by almost entirely not like that.

And George W. Bush went where? Ok then.
posted by Cyrano at 5:16 PM on February 15, 2007


thinkpiece: "They're in da club -- very loud, very crowded -- to get and/or be vapid and show off, not discourse on the war. Sorry, unsane, I call fish-in-a-barrel FPP."

You know, I'm sure that you could get some quotes just as stupid from the guys with mullets drinking Iron City and watching the fishing channel down at Bobs Inn around the corner from me but those guys are not running the f-ing country. The rich folks in clubs are. Or their daddies are.

The fact that there are people stupid enough and rich enough to drink $350 dollar bottles of distilled potato starch says a lot about the sorry state of life in this country.
posted by octothorpe at 5:24 PM on February 15, 2007


a stupid inane thread following a stupid, inane post.

a stupid unSane post, to be precise



[elvis]
thangyouverrumuch
[/elvis]
posted by unSane at 5:27 PM on February 15, 2007


Jesus, is Wonkette even in English? It reads like a machine translation.
posted by Pastabagel at 5:43 PM on February 15, 2007


I found the article interesting because I have, in fact, wondered what people who live differently than me (and, oh, how very differently) think. I realize for the sake of shock journalism that certain choice quotes were used and if I really wanted to find out what the fabulous people think I should go ask them. Except, no, I can't. I don't know anyone who owns a Marni dress.

So I sort of appreciate the glimpse into that world. And honestly, their opinions don't differ that much from ones I could get in my small town. Essentially, "It sucks, I feel bad, but I don't want my life to change."
posted by bobobox at 5:48 PM on February 15, 2007


Paint us all with the same brush, why don't you? Of course, you're utterly wrong to do so, but I guess you didn't let that stop you.

oaf: Unless you are calling yourself stupid, uncurious and shallow I wasn't referring to you (if in fact you go to one of the most elite universities in the world). I was referring to the stupid, uncurious and shallow among you. Perhaps you should read my comment again. Cheers.
posted by inoculatedcities at 6:16 PM on February 15, 2007


You know, I got done over really badly by a reporter this year and now I know a lot more about how this works.

You have to understand that all these people probably said tons of perfectly rational things to this reporter and he selected the one or two things that they said, out of context, that made them look bad. The reporter had the angle for his story, so he ignored anything at all that didn't relate to his idea.

You have to understand that they were probably sitting in a club, drunk, and some guy came and asked them a bunch of goofy questions about the war and smiled at them when they said something funny so they said more funny things.

This article is complete bullshit. If you believe this reflects what really happened, you are naive.

NOT, I hasten to add, that I'm sure there aren't tons of vapid people in denial about the war -- or even that some of the people interviewed really are this way.

But you have to assume that it's basically a "pack of lies" -- that the reporter selected a few lines from thousands.

And yes, I am bitter.
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 6:28 PM on February 15, 2007 [1 favorite]


oaf: see also
posted by inoculatedcities at 6:34 PM on February 15, 2007


I believe the writer is the same guy who chronicled his highly self-involved "couples counseling" for weeks in the same paper.

Yup: you can read about it here
posted by Maias at 6:53 PM on February 15, 2007


Paging tsarfan.
posted by zoinks at 6:59 PM on February 15, 2007


Chrystal clinkin' bliss ninnies.
posted by Balisong at 7:14 PM on February 15, 2007


I'm just amazed that people will pay $350 for 750mL of 40% aqueous solution of ethanol. That's like $0.50 of ingredients and a couple of bucks for the bottle.

This is why I don't drink with chemists.
posted by gompa at 7:18 PM on February 15, 2007 [2 favorites]


Why are stupid, uncurious, shallow people allowed to go to the most elite universities in the world?
Oh...right: they have money.

Paint us all with the same brush, why don't you?


Um. "A's can do B" != "All people who do B are A's"

You've just called yourself a stupid, uncurious, shallow person.

On preview (holy, fast thread) what Kololo said.
posted by dreamsign at 7:25 PM on February 15, 2007


I don't want to support these people, and I don't frequent those types of bars, and have certainly never had bottle service (I'm more on the PBR budget), but at least in Chicago, there's a minimum of 5 or so people for bottle service, and you get a table. So for a $350 bottle, about $70 each you get a bunch of drinks (mixers generally included) and a table at a crowded club. That's not that bad of a deal, if you're into that kind of scene.

And oaf, I've never said this to anyone online, but shut the hell up. I wouldn't be surprised if a large portion of students without any financial aid are going to state/community colleges and their parents make enough to force them to pay for the whole thing thanks to the fucked up calculations of FAFSA. I don't know when you were last in college, but the "expected family contribution" is an unrealistically high percentage. And if you're under 24, it doesn't matter at all if your parents are supporting you or you're paying your own way, it's all based on your parents' income.
posted by ruby.aftermath at 8:26 PM on February 15, 2007


They way your response reads, you're a stupid, uncurious, shallow person who doesn't have money and/or is not going to an elite university and your angry that we're assuming you are/do.

Apparently you're pretty bad at reading people.

inoculatedcities, you have yet to post anything close to a syllogism.

You've just called yourself a stupid, uncurious, shallow person.

Nope, I didn't.
posted by oaf at 8:27 PM on February 15, 2007


And oaf, I've never said this to anyone online, but shut the hell up.

That was entirely uncalled for. Entirely.
posted by oaf at 8:28 PM on February 15, 2007


I was commenting on your financial aid assumptions.
posted by ruby.aftermath at 8:30 PM on February 15, 2007


I wouldn't be surprised if a large portion of students without any financial aid are going to state/community colleges and their parents make enough to force them to pay for the whole thing thanks to the fucked up calculations of FAFSA.

FAFSA does not ultimately determine the amount of financial aid.
posted by oaf at 8:30 PM on February 15, 2007


I was commenting on your financial aid assumptions.

My assertions are a bit oversimplified, but generally accurate. They are not assumptions.
posted by oaf at 8:34 PM on February 15, 2007


This is why I don't drink with chemists.
posted by gompa at 7:18 PM PST on February 15


Ah, but if you do, around two a.m. they usually have something much more interesting in a cryptically marked baggie.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 8:35 PM on February 15, 2007


I just can't take the people who are quoted in this article seriously. I mean, who actually wears Prada anymore? I only listen to people who have a *real* sense of fashion.
posted by inconsequentialist at 9:10 PM on February 15, 2007


"If all the people who like KitKats also like Crispy Crunch, does that mean that all the people who like Crispy Crunch also like Kitkat? (Fyi, the answer is 'no'.)" posted by Kololo

Wait, if all the....if I like Kit Kats, then.....

...you just blew my mind.

"I've never said this to anyone online, but shut the hell up."

Virgin! Virgin! Virgin! nyah nyah!
Oh, wait, not anymore. Um...sorry.


"My assertions are a bit oversimplified, but generally accurate. They are not assumptions."

Hey, man. This isn't fark. We don't do oversimplifed assumptions. Particularly when it comes to financial aid sirrah. Hrumph.

Metafilter: If you believe this reflects what really happened, you are naive.
posted by Smedleyman at 9:10 PM on February 15, 2007


Reading this, the words "fiddling", "Rome" and "burns" come to mind.

Of course, this is a completely different situation.
posted by The Card Cheat at 9:10 PM on February 15, 2007


These people are like Ayn Rand characters.
posted by stavrogin at 9:43 PM on February 15, 2007


Smedleyman: We don't do oversimplifed assumptions.

Oaf: Paint us all with the same brush, why don't you?

Oh wait, he's not there yet.
posted by dreamsign at 10:02 PM on February 15, 2007


We don't do oversimplifed assumptions.

And neither did I.
posted by oaf at 10:46 PM on February 15, 2007


*takes another hit of crack and imagines george w bush as a rabid bat skullfucking uncle sam through his red white and blue hat*
posted by pyramid termite at 10:53 PM on February 15, 2007


Yeah, I've been taken to this kind of place by an ex-girlfriend (also in the meat-packing district) and these quotes don't surprise me, they just read incorrectly in print. Which is clearly what the Observer was going for.

The summary of bottle service above was correct. It's still ludicrously overpriced, but it's not like you're walking up to the bar and saying, "VODKA, NOW!" and them saying, "$350, please." It's part of what comes with the private-party aspect of it, and mixers and a lot of other things are involved. Still, not my scene, but it can be fun for a night.

These are people who were out trying to have fun for a night. Most are probably vapid and ignorant, as is most of America. Most, also, sounded about on par with any man-on-the-street interview you could do, especially if you were feeling particularly discourteous. And all, remember, were out partying when they were approached in a large club for a quick quote for the Observer (A.K.A. the "They Still Exist?" paper of New York.) By and large I'm surprised they sounded this good.

What's funny to me is that the NYO is the most blue-blooded paper in the history of New York. They're the ones who print a whole section every week on Park Avenue engagements.I haven't seen their salmon-colored pages on any newsstands in several years, but if they're eating their own young like this, then there must be some financial trouble going on.
posted by Navelgazer at 11:06 PM on February 15, 2007


I prefer to do my drinking in establishments that offer a 'pitcher service.'
posted by Flashman at 5:37 AM on February 16, 2007


*yawn*
posted by inoculatedcities at 6:54 AM on February 16, 2007


Wow, it turns out rich people are shallow fuckers.
posted by nanojath at 9:53 AM on February 16, 2007


Diamanda Galas? Cool.
posted by dozo at 9:43 PM on February 16, 2007


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