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February 21, 2001 7:55 AM   Subscribe

Haven't web been here before? Why does Lynne Cheney now sound so much like a previous Vice-President's wife seven years ago?
posted by bgluckman (9 comments total)
Ah, nice to have Lynn back! She can do a duet with Joe Lieberman. I wonder, though, if she would approve of Elton's gayness had she not had a daughter who is gay. Mary--Lynne's daughter--must have been a "moral "upbringing. Her daughter's gayness can only be explained by a revolt against the parents or a biological development. But since Mary spoke up for daddy's campaign, this eliminates the first of the two possibilities. I guess then that gayness is not a choice one consciously makes.
We need Lynn. It is not sufficient to have a right-of-center politics; we need too a right-of-center cultrual position to offset the Liberal permissiveness.
posted by Postroad at 8:08 AM on February 21, 2001

Postroad: I have to laugh at your last...umm...sentence, since bgluckman was referring to Tipper Gore who is the one who started the labeling movement. And she isn't exactly "right-of-center."
posted by terrapin at 8:55 AM on February 21, 2001

Every "blast" eminem gets is 500,000 more records sold off the publicity. Keep egging him on Lynne Cheney, I don't think he's successful enough yet.
posted by mathowie at 9:25 AM on February 21, 2001


a "who can be a bigger loudmouth" competition between eminem and the vice lady.

i put my money on the kid.
posted by will at 9:55 AM on February 21, 2001

Webl, I guess web get what web pay for.
posted by sonofsamiam at 10:13 AM on February 21, 2001

I think I should agree with you but my attorney said....I divide left/right oln cultural issues such as this. If Gore (Tipper) makes statements that seem to seek constraints on performers, then I assign her to the Right. My designations might not be accurate or satisfactory, but I am making the division along lines other than party one belongs to. Example:J. Lieberman, my senator, is very much to the Right but now seems swinging on many issues to the Left (political ones) so he can re-position himself as the first Jew, orthodox, to run for the highest office in the land.
My other senator, Dodd, alas, voted to confirm Ashcroft and Joe voted against Ashcroft. Go Figure.
I don't listen to this music and so have also been called a racist because most rappers are black! But M&M, a bit like S&M also loses me. I am old. I like the Rolling Stones, still and forever.
posted by Postroad at 11:32 AM on February 21, 2001

Postroad, the thing is, there are two axes (to oversimplify in a way that's popular among libertarians). Social issues are one axis, and fiscal issues are another. Lots of fiscal conservatives are socially liberal. See Reagan Democrats. But there's this recent wrinkle of social liberalism (i.e. pro-gay, pro-choice) mixed with cultural reactionism (i.e. explicit lyrics, violence in films). There's nothing especially new here, since liberal parents have long decried, for example, violent movies as a cause of violence in society, whereas conservative parents have decried sexy movies as a cause of teenage pregnancy and divorce. This "cultural war" position is widely popular among moderates and is a natural place for candidates to gravitate.

I remember when Lieberman won his seat by running to the right of Lowell Weicker, a liberal Republican. Mainly on gun control and abortion. The same thing happened here in the last Illinois governor's race though less nasty. But I wouldn't consider Lieberman right-wing by any stretch.
posted by dhartung at 5:01 PM on February 21, 2001

yes, but, dhartung, you make it seems as if liberals are the ones who talk about violence and conservatives talk about sex. but who is it you heard ranting against magazines with naked women in them? that's right, feminists, a traditionally left wing group...
posted by dagnyscott at 6:51 PM on February 21, 2001

"The label is part of the problem,'' Mrs. Cheney said. ``It makes it seem as though the recording industry is trying to put some barrier between Eminem's lyrics'' and children.

What the hell does that mean?
posted by brittney at 11:51 PM on February 21, 2001

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