lockin and loadin
April 1, 2007 1:04 AM   Subscribe

Harder, better, stronger, faster - Hilty and Bosch, often called the masters of locking, pair up with Co-Thkoo to serve up 10 riveting minutes of dance. The routine to Daft Punk's classic starting about midway in the clip is brilliant. [more]
posted by madamjujujive (54 comments total) 30 users marked this as a favorite
5 more minutes from Hilty and Bosch
5 more minutes from Co-Thkoo

Tho often combined in a particular routine, popping and locking are two distinct styles of dancing. This thread discusses the differences and a helpful person named iamPROTOTYPE posts a slew of great clips and tutorials to demonstrate the difference.
posted by madamjujujive at 1:04 AM on April 1, 2007

wow, that was amazing!
i've never seen anything like that, and probably never would have if not for your post :)

thanks, that was a great link!

i'm going to have to watch that again..
posted by Dillonlikescookies at 1:43 AM on April 1, 2007

I like how the dancers in the HBFS video are very aware of the song - all its random beeps and percussion and all that. They used all elements of the song to great effect.
posted by divabat at 1:58 AM on April 1, 2007

That was wonderful - a great post and particularly helpful explanation of the different styles (which are all totally new to me).
posted by greycap at 3:24 AM on April 1, 2007

Another wonderful post from madamjujujive! I have to admit, during the first thirty seconds or so of the video I was like, "yeah, so?" And then the jackets came off! And you were right - a brilliant clip!
posted by LeeJay at 4:38 AM on April 1, 2007

Maybe my inner pensioner is especially frisky today, but my first thought was 'Pretty good, but they're no Nicholson Brothers.'

Also, the 'Dixon's shop assistant at a Bugsy Malone-themed works do circa 1994' look a lot of the dancers are sporting is intriguing - I wonder if it's a fuck-off thing, as in 'Hey, I can dress like shit and still look 10,000 times cooler than any of you', a bit like Liverpool casuals sporting deerstalkers.

Also also, I know a cadre of avant-garde mimes/clowns/contemporary dancers/performance artists (no, really, I do!), and some of their stuff really aligns with popping and locking, especially the more mime-like stuff.
posted by jack_mo at 5:03 AM on April 1, 2007

More, popping/locking, courtesy of the Polysics. Now with clever editing.
posted by rider at 5:03 AM on April 1, 2007

no discussion of popping is complete without mention of david elsewhere.
previously also madamjujujive
posted by juv3nal at 5:17 AM on April 1, 2007

Those Japanese, I tell ya, they just got natural rhythm...

Great post, mjj. And some more from H&B (Japanese TV appearance) here.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:22 AM on April 1, 2007 [1 favorite]

more links to youtube stuff
posted by juv3nal at 5:39 AM on April 1, 2007

Thats some awesome dancing. You may want to check out DaddyX of the Kottonmouth Kings. That guy makes me want to dance. Nice post.
posted by winks007 at 6:33 AM on April 1, 2007

I guess I'm getting old, because I don't get how any of that stuff is innovative. All I see when I look at that is Fred "Rerun" Berry, who did those moves thirty years ago.
posted by MegoSteve at 7:02 AM on April 1, 2007 [2 favorites]

One of the links specifically references the incorporation of pantomime into this style of dance.

POPPING can also be used to describe a dance that uses many different techniques (styles?) such as ROBOTTING (BOTTIN/ROBOT), TUTTING (BOXES, BOXING), WAVING (SNAKING, COBRA), ANIMATION, TICKING/STROBING, FLOATS/SLIDES/GLIDES, etc together with pantomime (yep, mimes) techniques like isolating and fixed point to create and tell stories

Also, your favorite dancer sucks.
posted by misskaz at 7:26 AM on April 1, 2007

I don't get how any of that stuff is innovative.

Well, I don't know if anyone is especially touting it as "innovative", exactly. It's just fantastically well-done (much, much tighter and more sophisticated than the moves seen in the Fred Berry clip, IMO). I think dancers like H&B are expanding and moving the tradition ahead, and the point is not that every single move is "new". Anyway, as the saying goes, there's nothing new under the sun.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:28 AM on April 1, 2007

My God, what hath Shields and Yarnell wrought?
posted by Astro Zombie at 7:30 AM on April 1, 2007 [1 favorite]

Let's give credit to Garland Spencer, seen popping and locking in the video "Days Go By" by the band Dirty Vegas.
posted by Runcible Spoon at 7:37 AM on April 1, 2007

Harder, better, stronger, faster

I thought this was gonna be a dupe of the Mandingo thread.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 7:45 AM on April 1, 2007

I thought this was gonna be a dupe of the Mandingo thread.

posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:49 AM on April 1, 2007

Metafilter got served AGAIN? Come on, people.
posted by emelenjr at 8:07 AM on April 1, 2007 [2 favorites]

Although, you know, now that I watch it again, I don't think the two guys in the vests get enough love from the crowd. Yes, the guys in black are impressive and incredibly well-synchronized but there is a lot of technical skill going into the vest guys' routines and it deserves more cheers. That "slow motion" stuff is incredible.
posted by LeeJay at 8:22 AM on April 1, 2007

DDR is paying off for the Japanese apparently.
posted by empath at 8:36 AM on April 1, 2007 [1 favorite]

Wow, what great in-thread links, thanks to all. Rider, I could watch that Polysics all day and that's a nice link Runcible Spoon. The mime clips are truly inspired, most entertaining - jack_mo that salah guy is awesome, and Astro Zombie, I forgot how really great Sheilds and Yarnell could be ... but somehow putting the moves together with the beat is what really rocks my boat. I love the oldschool clips too - what's great about dance or music is adding new styles and attitudes to the moves that came before. Lotsa good stuff at your link, juv3nal.

This thread would be sorely lacking without Fututeshock's Late at Night, which my friend planetkyoto first bought to our attention.

Check out this clip that shows some of the b-boys competitive moves in slow motion at Red Bull BC 2005. There are a lot more clips of the dancers and interviews with the dancers at this event here.
posted by madamjujujive at 9:20 AM on April 1, 2007

kudos mjj.
posted by adamvasco at 9:42 AM on April 1, 2007

I can't be the only one who saw this via RSS, got as far as "Hilty and Bosch" and thought it was going to be an add with dancing nailguns or something, can I?

Not even with the "riveting" gag? Really?
posted by Skorgu at 9:55 AM on April 1, 2007

I'm a little surprised tap didn't make it into the streets. The extra effect of being able to make beat to the music adds a lot. Combining tap with all the other street dance moves would, IMO, make for a kickass (and unique) performance.
posted by five fresh fish at 10:10 AM on April 1, 2007

Has nobody seen Breakin? 75% of these moves are ripped straight from there. Ozone's leg wig-out, Turbo's moves - I mean just wholesale theft.

And Breakin was on the poppish side, so it wasn't like these moves were extraordinary back then.

But these guys suck for biting moves from 25 years ago. I mean at least link some classic David "Elsewhere" Bernal. His less-than-a-minute routine is better than their whole, bitten act.
posted by cashman at 11:18 AM on April 1, 2007

I'm with cashman ... these guys don't have shit on Boogaloo Shrimp (Turbo from Breakin'). His tribute here to Fred Astaire is brilliant.
posted by Bookhouse at 11:46 AM on April 1, 2007

at least link some classic David "Elsewhere" Bernal

cashman, you might be interested to see that I did link David Elsewhere here about 5 years ago ;-)

Thanks for your links, they are great - I did not see the movie Breakin so that will get added to my "must sees" because I love this stuff. But why would that mean we shouldn't link something else good that hasn't been linked before? It's not a competition - it's just about sharing good stuff. If the post didn't exist, a lot of other people might never have learned about the great links you've added.

Welcome to mefi, I hope you will bring us more good links, I don't claim to be anything more than a rookie on the topic - I just love some good dancin!
posted by madamjujujive at 12:54 PM on April 1, 2007

Astaire's ceiling dance in part, by way of comparision.

Do any of these people dance slow? Combine a few minutes of controlled slow movement (not easy!) and FFF's tap and you could really have something special.
posted by IndigoJones at 12:55 PM on April 1, 2007

A terrific ceiling dance move would be to jump in the air, pull a full aerial somersault, and land on the opposite wall. This would be achieved by spinning the room 180% within the few moments the artist is aerial.

It'd take some neat engineering, but it'd be an amazing sight.
posted by five fresh fish at 1:01 PM on April 1, 2007

Madamjujujive --

May I suggest you check out Breakin' II: Electric Boogaloo as well? I think it's the more enjoyable movie (and it's the one with the ceiling dance).
posted by Bookhouse at 1:09 PM on April 1, 2007

Sorry if it came off as hostility. It was really more surprise. I'm probably being Ameri-centric.

All of the breakdancing linked in here is pretty tame, including my stuff. The "Breakin" movies were awful, even with Turbo (Ozone sucked).

I think I also got slightly annoyed because I saw a similar video with four ladies that got linked elsewhere as if it was something special. I have to realize that a lot of times people are just unfamiliar with some of this stuff, so I should be informative instead of a indignant.
posted by cashman at 1:27 PM on April 1, 2007

Goddamn, the Nicholson Bros are good.
posted by metaculpa at 2:10 PM on April 1, 2007

No problem at all cashman, I've felt that way sometimes too when I see something that is old to me get overly touted like it is some breakthrough. But then when you get to be an old fart like me, you realize nothing is new, it just gets repackaged ;-)

I appreciate that you and Bookhouse have added some links, I think it improves things for everyone - thanks.
posted by madamjujujive at 2:21 PM on April 1, 2007

Am I the only one who thought this post was going to be about drills?

Or is that where they got their name?
posted by sour cream at 2:27 PM on April 1, 2007

Skorgu: I can't be the only one who saw this via RSS, got as far as "Hilty and Bosch" and thought it was going to be an add with dancing nailguns or something, can I?

Er, on second look, no, I guess I'm not the only one. Hi, Skorgu.
posted by sour cream at 2:30 PM on April 1, 2007

"Has nobody seen Breakin? 75% of these moves are ripped straight from there."
And 75% of the moves from Breakin' were "stolen" from someone else.

When Breakin' came out the word on the street is that it was rushed to hit theaters by Golan and Globus to get at the growing hip hop culture 'fad' before Beat Street. Everyone (in my neighborhood) knew it and effectively skipped Breakin' which was deemed a more suburban, watered down view of the culture at the time.

Beat Street has a battle scene in the Roxy nightclub that a few friends of mine were talking about just the other day - 22+ years after we first saw it.

Beat Street also has Afrika Bambaataa, the RockSteady Crew and Kool Herc - all hip hop legends now. Breakin' has Ice T. The kids knew which film was 'real'.

Now that all that is done, I really enjoyed the first Hilty, et al flick. Very impressive choreography. As someone who used to do this, I can say it is very hard to have that long of a routine, move that fast and still be that precise. Much respect.
posted by mikeinclifton at 2:47 PM on April 1, 2007

Me to my four year old, who climbed into my lap to watch this with me, "See how those guys dance exactly to the music? It's like they are personifiying what they hear. Every movement looks like it sounds. That shows a sophisticated understanding of music and dance." Then she went "Nee-up! Nee-up!" to the music.
posted by frecklefaerie at 2:52 PM on April 1, 2007

Oh yay! I can finally tell my funny Robert Shields story! The dude hit on an acquaintance of mine about 10 years ago, when she was walking through an art gallery in Sedona that he apparently owned. Kept talking about how his ex-wife took everything. And than as she leaned with her back against a wall in shock, he started miming for her. So yeah, let's all picture it together: middleaged guy... walking against wind and wriggling like a snake on the floor of his new-agey art gallery... to impress a chick.

It didn't do the trick (she was clearly horrified, which made her version of the events -- in her thick Boston accent -- ten times more hysterical) but it STILL makes me laugh out loud just thinking about it. I mean, the guy was a smidgen freaky to begin with, so picturing him desperately miming to get dates strikes me as kinda priceless.

posted by miss lynnster at 3:12 PM on April 1, 2007

I'm a cruel, cruel woman.
posted by miss lynnster at 3:13 PM on April 1, 2007

miss lynster, maybe that incident inspired him to produce this piece of artwork entitled Wet Dreams.

...and ya, that mimed proposition sounds ugly. Quiet, but ugly.
posted by madamjujujive at 3:42 PM on April 1, 2007

Cool dancers, cooler song.

Daft Punk. (they need no elaboration)
posted by ageispolis at 4:03 PM on April 1, 2007

Thanks! That was pure fun, Madame-J!
And Shields and Yarnell were creepy but Pink Lady and Jeff were unalloyed alternate-universe bizarro. And they weren't even mimes.
posted by Dizzy at 4:04 PM on April 1, 2007

Yes, thanks again for the post! :)

BTW, I just did a little google search... looks like Shields is currently touring with his oh-so-flexible, money-grubbing ex-wife again. And upon review, picturing this man doing his shtick in a deserted art gallery to impress a captive girl still makes me giggle.
posted by miss lynnster at 5:02 PM on April 1, 2007

Watching that clip made me realize it isn't the pretentious "universal human truths" or smug apery that makes so many mimes simply unwatchable.
It's those God-awful costumes!
Just saying.
posted by Dizzy at 6:18 PM on April 1, 2007

I mean at least link some classic David "Elsewhere" Bernal . His less-than-a-minute routine is better than their whole, bitten act.

um...I did.
posted by juv3nal at 7:09 PM on April 1, 2007

Metafilter: I should be informative instead of indignant.

And this has been a great thread.
posted by mediareport at 8:47 PM on April 1, 2007

As a child I longed to be a break-dancer. I found a giant piece of cardboard and placed it in the center of my garage so that I might work on my moves. Unfortunatly lived in the suburbes and had only movies to show me what those moves ought to be. So I was forced to eventually give up my dream to be a world famous pop-and-locker, but seeing this video has inspred me. From this day foward, every morning, I will watch this video. I will learn every move, and if for some reason I should be challenged to a dance-off, I shall be victorious!
posted by Wonderwoman at 9:01 PM on April 1, 2007

God, I love that song.
posted by squidfartz at 10:56 PM on April 1, 2007

And, who can forget the dead Gene Kelly busting a move for Volkswagen? (QT required)

Yes, Elsewhere is part of it.
posted by Samizdata at 1:25 AM on April 2, 2007

Combinding drills and robotting, for skorgu and sour cream.

Click on 'WKD robot' to see the quicktime video.
posted by asok at 1:50 AM on April 2, 2007

I wouldn't say that the Hilty and Bosch/Co-Thkoo routines were totally bitten. They contain elements of the Breakin' moves, but the sequence is not identical. When you are working within a defined set of rules you will find yourself doing things that have been done before.

The guys breaking in the the seventies and early eighties were defining the different styles and naming them, it is not suprising that 30 years later there are people using the same moves in routines because those are classic moves within that style.

In the words of Humpty (!?!?):
'Also told ya that I like to bite
Well, yeah, I guess it's obvious, I also like to write.'

Also, good story miss lynster.
posted by asok at 2:19 AM on April 2, 2007

Gee, those dance videos make me feel so alive. Woo hoo! Thanks mjjj! :)
posted by nickyskye at 11:21 AM on April 2, 2007

Isn't lesson one in performing to dress so you stand out from the backdrop?
posted by smackfu at 5:03 PM on April 2, 2007

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