Steve Forbes is the Original Buzzkill
May 2, 2007 10:45 PM Subscribe
Forbes Magazine Details The Top Ten Most Exotic Kinds of Weed (yes, the puff puff kind) with pricing and lovely pictures but no links to local dispensaries.
PS. Yer favorite weed that's not on the list sucks.
PS. Yer favorite weed that's not on the list sucks.
Interesting that the slideshow labels them "brands" of weed, rather than "strains". If they're brands, Forbes has done us a great disservice by not mentioning the stores that carry them.
(and I just know that early comment on a post like this cries out for hilarity, but the pressure is just too much, man!)
posted by LooseFilter at 10:59 PM on May 2, 2007
(and I just know that early comment on a post like this cries out for hilarity, but the pressure is just too much, man!)
posted by LooseFilter at 10:59 PM on May 2, 2007
I was going to post this documentary about the first pot club to open up in san francisco. It's pretty interesting. (Mexican brick gets its own floor.) The only thing I can say is that the guy who suggested that forbes use this slideshow i keep seeing on mefi was seriously stoned. probably leaning towards an indica strain.
i'm not sure if i'm a big fan of "branding" and "price setting", particularly by a seemingly out-of-the-loop company like forbes. keep in mind that some places that sell weed legally in california have resorted to subtle tactics that may affect the quality of the weed you are buying. for example, some places have gained the reputation of shaking their product and separating the loose kief from the bud, which is what they use to go on to create hash products. of course, you're paying 70 dollars for something that is called something and that has a reputation for giving you a certain high, and comes in a nice plastic container, when in fact how the weed is handled is of great import. not to mention that to my surprise, local stores are beginning to charge sales tax, which strikes me as kind of insane.
posted by phaedon at 11:09 PM on May 2, 2007
i'm not sure if i'm a big fan of "branding" and "price setting", particularly by a seemingly out-of-the-loop company like forbes. keep in mind that some places that sell weed legally in california have resorted to subtle tactics that may affect the quality of the weed you are buying. for example, some places have gained the reputation of shaking their product and separating the loose kief from the bud, which is what they use to go on to create hash products. of course, you're paying 70 dollars for something that is called something and that has a reputation for giving you a certain high, and comes in a nice plastic container, when in fact how the weed is handled is of great import. not to mention that to my surprise, local stores are beginning to charge sales tax, which strikes me as kind of insane.
posted by phaedon at 11:09 PM on May 2, 2007
HENRY KEEP THE BRAKES ON FOR THIS CORNER IF YOU PLEASE...
posted by taosbat at 11:25 PM on May 2, 2007
posted by taosbat at 11:25 PM on May 2, 2007
When crumbled, it smells like a diesel fuel spill at a gas station.
Sounds ... tasty?
posted by Dave Faris at 11:31 PM on May 2, 2007
Sounds ... tasty?
posted by Dave Faris at 11:31 PM on May 2, 2007
Forbes is for hippies
posted by matteo at 11:42 PM on May 2, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by matteo at 11:42 PM on May 2, 2007 [2 favorites]
when in fact how the weed is handled is of great import.
Indeed. The strain, like a variety of grape, is just part of it. How it is grown, harvested, and handled can make a huge difference in the quality. This sort of supports the idea of branding.
As for price setting, I think it's good that Forbes looks at reefer as any other cash crop. With corn selling for $2 a bushel, one might expect immense pressure from the powerful farm lobby for the right to cultivate crops that sell for $25 a gram.
posted by three blind mice at 11:45 PM on May 2, 2007 [1 favorite]
Indeed. The strain, like a variety of grape, is just part of it. How it is grown, harvested, and handled can make a huge difference in the quality. This sort of supports the idea of branding.
As for price setting, I think it's good that Forbes looks at reefer as any other cash crop. With corn selling for $2 a bushel, one might expect immense pressure from the powerful farm lobby for the right to cultivate crops that sell for $25 a gram.
posted by three blind mice at 11:45 PM on May 2, 2007 [1 favorite]
For a man with a kalimba on his amazon wish list, you sure are high strung, faris ;)
posted by phaedon at 11:46 PM on May 2, 2007
posted by phaedon at 11:46 PM on May 2, 2007
One of the more disappointing results of marijuana prohibition is that pure sativas are not given the development and production attention they rightfully deserve due to their lower weight yield. If you are a tourist in Amsterdam I advise you to, at least once, specifically seek out a quality pure sativa as you will rarely run across one in common circulation elsewhere.
posted by well_balanced at 12:25 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
posted by well_balanced at 12:25 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
Gotta love the Haze...
These prices are outrageous though.
posted by ageispolis at 1:13 AM on May 3, 2007
These prices are outrageous though.
posted by ageispolis at 1:13 AM on May 3, 2007
Though in Amsterdam, the price that they charge for the extreme sativa's like the Haze variants can be as much as double that of the indicas, more than making up for shortfall in yield.
The Greenhouse generally keeps several varieties at any given time. I believe that the Greenhouse is considered expensive, but given the number of locals that I see visiting the Waterlooplein and Tollstraat branches, they're obviously doing something right.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 1:18 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
The Greenhouse generally keeps several varieties at any given time. I believe that the Greenhouse is considered expensive, but given the number of locals that I see visiting the Waterlooplein and Tollstraat branches, they're obviously doing something right.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 1:18 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
I've enjoyed 5 out of the 7 strains featured in the linked slideshow. I love USA.
posted by Curry at 1:34 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by Curry at 1:34 AM on May 3, 2007
I'm really sad that the wildly successful War on Drugs makes it impossible to get these.
posted by mullingitover at 1:41 AM on May 3, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by mullingitover at 1:41 AM on May 3, 2007 [2 favorites]
I've always wondered about the judging at the Cannabis Cup. So you smoke one strain, assess it, repeat, repeat, repeat.
And which one got you most high? The first one, surely!?
posted by imperium at 1:44 AM on May 3, 2007
And which one got you most high? The first one, surely!?
posted by imperium at 1:44 AM on May 3, 2007
Strawberry Cough? I thought that was made up for "Children of Men". Shit, maybe Jasper really exists!
posted by redteam at 2:03 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by redteam at 2:03 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Strawberry Cough: According to the Dutch Passion Seed Co., which purports to sell marijuana seeds online ...
remember when Forbes did investigative reporting.
posted by pruner at 2:08 AM on May 3, 2007
remember when Forbes did investigative reporting.
posted by pruner at 2:08 AM on May 3, 2007
What was the name of that one they made up for American Beauty? The moment that happens, some enterprising Dutch or Jamaicans rebrand one strain accordingly.
I hear.
posted by imperium at 2:10 AM on May 3, 2007
I hear.
posted by imperium at 2:10 AM on May 3, 2007
30 bucks a gram? $810 an ounce? Yeah right, maybe on the street in downtown Tokyo. Where the fuck do they get these prices? You can get an ounce of several of these strains for 250-400 dollars max in Atlanta.
Reminds me of the stories in the newspaper whenever there's a pot bust. The cops always claim that the 40-50 plants they ripped out of some poor schmucks basement are worth a quarter million dollars! Because they take the whole plant, root ball intact and throw it on the scale, then apply these kind of absurd prices to come up with their figures. The average 4' tall marijuana plant grown under artificial lighting will yield one or two ounces of dry smokable buds. The rest is trash for the isomerizer. And that's if you've got enough light, and have the water, fertilizer and CO2 dialed in perfectly.
Uh, at least that what I've heard. :P
posted by gigbutt at 2:33 AM on May 3, 2007 [2 favorites]
Reminds me of the stories in the newspaper whenever there's a pot bust. The cops always claim that the 40-50 plants they ripped out of some poor schmucks basement are worth a quarter million dollars! Because they take the whole plant, root ball intact and throw it on the scale, then apply these kind of absurd prices to come up with their figures. The average 4' tall marijuana plant grown under artificial lighting will yield one or two ounces of dry smokable buds. The rest is trash for the isomerizer. And that's if you've got enough light, and have the water, fertilizer and CO2 dialed in perfectly.
Uh, at least that what I've heard. :P
posted by gigbutt at 2:33 AM on May 3, 2007 [2 favorites]
Is there some missing context that explains why Forbes is publishing such a feature?
posted by unmake at 2:41 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by unmake at 2:41 AM on May 3, 2007
Price per gram and price for ounce are not on a linear scale.
If you pay $20 for a gram, it would run $140-180 for 14 grams, $260-300 for an ounce. or cheaper if you're a lucky ducky.
But if you find that $810/oz stuff, feel free to invite me over.
posted by Orrorin at 3:01 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
If you pay $20 for a gram, it would run $140-180 for 14 grams, $260-300 for an ounce. or cheaper if you're a lucky ducky.
But if you find that $810/oz stuff, feel free to invite me over.
posted by Orrorin at 3:01 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
I click on a link about exotic brands of weed, and it sits there cycling. I expected it to load on the first hit.
posted by Killick at 3:02 AM on May 3, 2007 [5 favorites]
posted by Killick at 3:02 AM on May 3, 2007 [5 favorites]
I actually was thinking that the post read "the puff ball kind" and was picturing exotic milkweed, and thinking that my favorite weed is the dandelion, but that's not exotic.
Canabis is much uglier than those kind of weeds.
posted by jb at 3:22 AM on May 3, 2007
Canabis is much uglier than those kind of weeds.
posted by jb at 3:22 AM on May 3, 2007
Is there some missing context that explains why Forbes is publishing such a feature?
Steve Forbes is secretly a raving, reefer-smoking maniac.
posted by Meatbomb at 3:27 AM on May 3, 2007
Steve Forbes is secretly a raving, reefer-smoking maniac.
posted by Meatbomb at 3:27 AM on May 3, 2007
Is this something I would need a bong to understand?
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 3:42 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 3:42 AM on May 3, 2007
Yeah. The publisher of this piece has my head spinnin. WTH?
posted by cavalier at 4:42 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by cavalier at 4:42 AM on May 3, 2007
Posts like this make me wonder exactly what it is I'm missing, as anything and everything I've ever smoked has been, for the most part, inexpensive and not covered with crystals.
Sigh.
That's the gotcha about this business. It's all about who you know, and I don't know anybody.
posted by kbanas at 4:44 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Sigh.
That's the gotcha about this business. It's all about who you know, and I don't know anybody.
posted by kbanas at 4:44 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
kbanas, and you in a town renowned around the world for its hippie credentials. Or is that all gone now?
posted by imperium at 5:09 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by imperium at 5:09 AM on May 3, 2007
Well, no, I would say that's probably accurate.
I think the problem is more that I'm a social introvert who fixes computers for a living, and I lack the requisite I don't even know what to reach out and make that kind of connection.
I can't really explain, exactly, but it's, like, you know, something is happening all around you, but you feel like you lack the necessary social tools to somehow tap into it.
Maybe it's a lack of knowledge about the 'drug' culture in general that I find intimidating or discouraging. I don't rightly know.
posted by kbanas at 5:28 AM on May 3, 2007
I think the problem is more that I'm a social introvert who fixes computers for a living, and I lack the requisite I don't even know what to reach out and make that kind of connection.
I can't really explain, exactly, but it's, like, you know, something is happening all around you, but you feel like you lack the necessary social tools to somehow tap into it.
Maybe it's a lack of knowledge about the 'drug' culture in general that I find intimidating or discouraging. I don't rightly know.
posted by kbanas at 5:28 AM on May 3, 2007
Canabis is much uglier than those kind of weeds.
Beauty is in theeyemind of the beholderinhaler.
posted by kcds at 5:52 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
Beauty is in the
posted by kcds at 5:52 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
350.00/oz here for AK47. Kinda sorta like those pictured. Smelled more like chloryphyl than pot. Plenty-o-crystals too.
Also....kbanas, you need weed-ar. My wife claims that I have that.
posted by winks007 at 6:08 AM on May 3, 2007
Also....kbanas, you need weed-ar. My wife claims that I have that.
posted by winks007 at 6:08 AM on May 3, 2007
A 3 1/2 (3.5 grams) of jack goes for $30-$35 in Canuckistan.
posted by furtive at 6:15 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by furtive at 6:15 AM on May 3, 2007
gigbutt:Where the fuck do they get these prices?
I guess they watch the weed futures ticker at the Chicago Board of Trade.
posted by dr_dank at 6:28 AM on May 3, 2007 [4 favorites]
I guess they watch the weed futures ticker at the Chicago Board of Trade.
posted by dr_dank at 6:28 AM on May 3, 2007 [4 favorites]
$800 an oz is reasonable, Dandelions are more beautiful than a fully matured female Cannabis plant, and all I've ever smoked is schwag.
Talk about a parallel universe.
If you pay $20 for a gram, it would run $140-180 for 14 grams, $260-300 for an ounce. or cheaper if you're a lucky ducky buy it by the pound.
Seriously though, I've never seen anyone buy kind herb by the gram for $20 except on some retarded "expose" on MTV that followed a female courier who sold it in little 1" colored baggies in that quantity, and that included the delivery fee in NYC.
The last "real" strain I smoked was a crossbreed known as AK-99, and that was just fucking fabulous. A lot of the other names you hear get thrown around are flat bull though, unless the middle-man you are dealing with is in the second tier from the grower there is absolutely no reasonable justification for pimping it as any specific strain. Anything with a requisite density of trichomes on the bud surface can be referred to as "White Widow" and nobody would question a thing, for the most part. Also, certain characteristics of the growing environment (specifically if the plant gets too cold during flowering) can cause cellular damage to the organism which can manifest as purple/blue "bruising", for lack of a better term and this is often misidentified as being indicative of a heady strain.
posted by prostyle at 6:37 AM on May 3, 2007
Talk about a parallel universe.
If you pay $20 for a gram, it would run $140-180 for 14 grams, $260-300 for an ounce. or cheaper if you
Seriously though, I've never seen anyone buy kind herb by the gram for $20 except on some retarded "expose" on MTV that followed a female courier who sold it in little 1" colored baggies in that quantity, and that included the delivery fee in NYC.
The last "real" strain I smoked was a crossbreed known as AK-99, and that was just fucking fabulous. A lot of the other names you hear get thrown around are flat bull though, unless the middle-man you are dealing with is in the second tier from the grower there is absolutely no reasonable justification for pimping it as any specific strain. Anything with a requisite density of trichomes on the bud surface can be referred to as "White Widow" and nobody would question a thing, for the most part. Also, certain characteristics of the growing environment (specifically if the plant gets too cold during flowering) can cause cellular damage to the organism which can manifest as purple/blue "bruising", for lack of a better term and this is often misidentified as being indicative of a heady strain.
posted by prostyle at 6:37 AM on May 3, 2007
all I can do is second kbanas' lament.
and wish that I had winks007's "weed-ar".
posted by the sobsister at 6:52 AM on May 3, 2007
and wish that I had winks007's "weed-ar".
posted by the sobsister at 6:52 AM on May 3, 2007
For twenty years, through college and into my thirties, I was the proverbial "wake and bake". A nice happy buzz makes me cordial.
In the middle 90's, however, weed just started getting too damned strong. I like getting buzzed, not full-blown stoned. You can't do that anymore.
I guess I live on the schwag side of the street. Unfortunately, everybody's moved out.
Pretty pictures, though.
posted by Benny Andajetz at 6:59 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
In the middle 90's, however, weed just started getting too damned strong. I like getting buzzed, not full-blown stoned. You can't do that anymore.
I guess I live on the schwag side of the street. Unfortunately, everybody's moved out.
Pretty pictures, though.
posted by Benny Andajetz at 6:59 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Y'all ever hang out with a real weed snob?
I no longer partake, but there was a good ten years where I was Cheech AND chong as they say and a bunch of that was when Dinkins was mayor of New York. Depending on my mood I could walk to a fucking RASTAFARIAN restaurant in the East Village (nice cover boys, no one will suspect a thing) and buy a big loose handful of crazy bush weed for 30 bucks "We ain't got no fuckin' bags mon, put dat shit in you pocket, buy a ting and go get high."
I could go all the way to the west side around 13th street and walk through what was literally a sliding glass patio door set in a wall and take my pick of dime bags and twenties of exotic shit, this place seemed more like community service than a drug dealing operation, they had this brown dry ass weed that stuck you to the couch and filled your ears with hot oil for a few hours.
I could also go the apartment of this fucking nutball hippie in recovery from a bad crack problem, dude was wired tight, smelled like fishfood or seaweed or something. He had impossible crazy headbanger boogie weed, more like anesthetic than something you did for fun.
My point is sometimes you'd end up with a real geek who's sniffing the weed and getting out his little scissors and warning you not to "bruise the bud" and going on about hints of bubble gum and this variety mixed with that and you sometimes just need to say "Hey bro, you going to roll that shit sometime today? I want to play Steetfighter and drink a pepsi."
posted by Divine_Wino at 6:59 AM on May 3, 2007 [14 favorites]
I no longer partake, but there was a good ten years where I was Cheech AND chong as they say and a bunch of that was when Dinkins was mayor of New York. Depending on my mood I could walk to a fucking RASTAFARIAN restaurant in the East Village (nice cover boys, no one will suspect a thing) and buy a big loose handful of crazy bush weed for 30 bucks "We ain't got no fuckin' bags mon, put dat shit in you pocket, buy a ting and go get high."
I could go all the way to the west side around 13th street and walk through what was literally a sliding glass patio door set in a wall and take my pick of dime bags and twenties of exotic shit, this place seemed more like community service than a drug dealing operation, they had this brown dry ass weed that stuck you to the couch and filled your ears with hot oil for a few hours.
I could also go the apartment of this fucking nutball hippie in recovery from a bad crack problem, dude was wired tight, smelled like fishfood or seaweed or something. He had impossible crazy headbanger boogie weed, more like anesthetic than something you did for fun.
My point is sometimes you'd end up with a real geek who's sniffing the weed and getting out his little scissors and warning you not to "bruise the bud" and going on about hints of bubble gum and this variety mixed with that and you sometimes just need to say "Hey bro, you going to roll that shit sometime today? I want to play Steetfighter and drink a pepsi."
posted by Divine_Wino at 6:59 AM on May 3, 2007 [14 favorites]
The Forbes 420
posted by kuujjuarapik at 7:01 AM on May 3, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by kuujjuarapik at 7:01 AM on May 3, 2007 [2 favorites]
You can get an ounce of several of these strains for 250-400 dollars max in Atlanta.
I miss the prices in the South.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 7:04 AM on May 3, 2007
I miss the prices in the South.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 7:04 AM on May 3, 2007
At some point, marijuana will be legalized and American ingenuity will kick in -- Starbucks is totally ready for a Frappucino/Jamaican Super Haze combo at the register.
posted by fet at 7:04 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
posted by fet at 7:04 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
Strawberry Cough? I thought that was made up for "Children of Men". Shit, maybe Jasper really exists!
Or did, anyway. Apparently, Michael Caine based his performance on the mannerisms of his old friend, John Lennon.
posted by Afroblanco at 7:22 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Or did, anyway. Apparently, Michael Caine based his performance on the mannerisms of his old friend, John Lennon.
posted by Afroblanco at 7:22 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
prostyle writes "Seriously though, I've never seen anyone buy kind herb by the gram for $20"
In Cali SF Bay people sell what's called a dub for $20. It's essentially a gram. It's meant for rolling one blunt, but it's not very cost-effective to buy in small quantities, unless you rarely smoke.
posted by krinklyfig at 7:33 AM on May 3, 2007
In Cali SF Bay people sell what's called a dub for $20. It's essentially a gram. It's meant for rolling one blunt, but it's not very cost-effective to buy in small quantities, unless you rarely smoke.
posted by krinklyfig at 7:33 AM on May 3, 2007
gotta love nyc. The delivery guys routinely carry several of these variaties. And they make it to your apt in 30-40 minutes
posted by slapshot57 at 7:35 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by slapshot57 at 7:35 AM on May 3, 2007
fet writes "At some point, marijuana will be legalized and American ingenuity will kick in"
Been hearing that for, oh, about 30 years now. One can hope ...
posted by krinklyfig at 7:36 AM on May 3, 2007
Been hearing that for, oh, about 30 years now. One can hope ...
posted by krinklyfig at 7:36 AM on May 3, 2007
Delivery guy? 30-40 minutes?
Fuck you guys. Seriously.
posted by kbanas at 7:43 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Fuck you guys. Seriously.
posted by kbanas at 7:43 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
unmake: Is there some missing context that explains why Forbes is publishing such a feature?
fet: At some point, marijuana will be legalized and American ingenuity will kick in
If pot is ever legalized in the USA it will be a huge new market, with scads of dollars legitimately flowing through it. Naturally, Forbes is interested. This puff piece seems a likely primer for the Forbes readership, something small and easy that they can wrap their not-yet-legalized minds around for now in preparation for the green reaping down the road.
posted by carsonb at 7:48 AM on May 3, 2007
fet: At some point, marijuana will be legalized and American ingenuity will kick in
If pot is ever legalized in the USA it will be a huge new market, with scads of dollars legitimately flowing through it. Naturally, Forbes is interested. This puff piece seems a likely primer for the Forbes readership, something small and easy that they can wrap their not-yet-legalized minds around for now in preparation for the green reaping down the road.
posted by carsonb at 7:48 AM on May 3, 2007
prostyle writes "Seriously though, I've never seen anyone buy kind herb by the gram for $20"
I have. In Amsterdam. It's the best way to try one of everything. ("I'll have one of those, two of those, oooooh 5 of those....")
Also, $300 an ounce is not out of line for good hydroponic, which is the only way to grow a lot of those varieties in the US.
Er. So I've heard.
At some point, marijuana will be legalized and American ingenuity will kick in
Y'all are all invited to my coffeehouse if it ever happens. (Now, if I relocate to Reno, I could make it a bordello coffee house and call it the Happy Hooka! Na, that's just tacky. Never mind.)
posted by dejah420 at 7:49 AM on May 3, 2007
I have. In Amsterdam. It's the best way to try one of everything. ("I'll have one of those, two of those, oooooh 5 of those....")
Also, $300 an ounce is not out of line for good hydroponic, which is the only way to grow a lot of those varieties in the US.
Er. So I've heard.
At some point, marijuana will be legalized and American ingenuity will kick in
Y'all are all invited to my coffeehouse if it ever happens. (Now, if I relocate to Reno, I could make it a bordello coffee house and call it the Happy Hooka! Na, that's just tacky. Never mind.)
posted by dejah420 at 7:49 AM on May 3, 2007
apropos of nothing, there're a series of local cable ads here by a "hydroponics supply store" in Maryland.
and, really, if one were to purchase their "full line of hydroponic growing products", I assume one would really need to a) pay CASH and b) be able to produce, when the Feds roll up at your door, a shitload of baby carrots and bok choy.
posted by the sobsister at 7:59 AM on May 3, 2007
and, really, if one were to purchase their "full line of hydroponic growing products", I assume one would really need to a) pay CASH and b) be able to produce, when the Feds roll up at your door, a shitload of baby carrots and bok choy.
posted by the sobsister at 7:59 AM on May 3, 2007
Weed snobs are the WORST. The last thing I want to do is put my mouth on someones dirty ass pipe that's been in their pocket, under the seat of their car or stashed in their briefs during a unexpected traffic stop. Here's a zig-zag, wrap it, bust up, keep it dry and STFU. BTQ, avoid the new clear, cellulose papers...they SUCK, hard!
posted by winks007 at 8:00 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by winks007 at 8:00 AM on May 3, 2007
...and I totally see a place for weed-snobbery when/if it ever gets legalized (good point about Forbes prepping its readership for that eventuality, btw): "the profusion of mint and basil notes on the nose are supported by a blooming earthiness mid-palate and a gentle but forceful explosion at the back of the head".
ah, but who will be the weed world's Robert Parker? or, you know, someone less annoying and tendentious.
posted by the sobsister at 8:03 AM on May 3, 2007
ah, but who will be the weed world's Robert Parker? or, you know, someone less annoying and tendentious.
posted by the sobsister at 8:03 AM on May 3, 2007
Attn Forbes: Please don't bogart your .. uh.. sources.
Also, I hate these stupid slidesh.. ... maaaan, do you have any food here man? Dude I LOVE this song!
posted by ninjew at 8:06 AM on May 3, 2007
Also, I hate these stupid slidesh.. ... maaaan, do you have any food here man? Dude I LOVE this song!
posted by ninjew at 8:06 AM on May 3, 2007
gigbutt, they say there's a similar pricing situation in NYC for haze if you're willing to purchase by the oz. or so i hear. i've always wondered wtf you'd want to do w/ a gram of herb. dab it behind yr ears?
lovely pictures. can't we make just this one page green like askme for a day? mmmmm. greeeeeeeen. french toast.
posted by spitbull at 8:07 AM on May 3, 2007
lovely pictures. can't we make just this one page green like askme for a day? mmmmm. greeeeeeeen. french toast.
posted by spitbull at 8:07 AM on May 3, 2007
Weed snobbery is alive and well. But when it takes off, I volunteer to be the Robert Parker and have everyone complain that my typically American tastes are driving the market. I like them big, showy, euphoric, not too physically incapacitating, vibrant, and just a little forward with a note of insouciance.
posted by spitbull at 8:10 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
posted by spitbull at 8:10 AM on May 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
Anyone who likes this post will be absolutely enthralled with The Cannabible 1 & 2.
Everyone I show these books to sits and reads the entire way through. Immediately.
Jason King's life is an enviable one.
posted by dozo at 8:19 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Everyone I show these books to sits and reads the entire way through. Immediately.
Jason King's life is an enviable one.
posted by dozo at 8:19 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
I don't understand, winks007. How is your not wanting to put your mouth "on someones dirty ass pipe" relate to your opinion that "Weed snobs are the WORST"? In my experience there's no correlation between smokers who prefer a pipe and those who prefer high-end product. Overlap, perhaps, but no more than simple coincidence. And doesn't your ew germs perspective itself indicate a bit of snobbery? /hillofbeans
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 8:20 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 8:20 AM on May 3, 2007
Err, I like to make a hill on the plate, ok?
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 8:23 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 8:23 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
I want to be clear that I bear no particular animosity towards weed snobs, everyone needs a hobby. At most I remember feeling a note of impatience and a deep amusement around the idea that even the most primal act of getting all zooted and watching video music box could be dressed up as a geek procedural.
posted by Divine_Wino at 8:25 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by Divine_Wino at 8:25 AM on May 3, 2007
The April 22, 2007 SF Chronicle Sunday Magazine's cover package was about this (full disclosure, I work for SFGate.com).
It came as no surprise when a Department of Health and Human Services study came out in January reporting that San Francisco has a higher percentage of illegal drug use among adults than anywhere in the country -- 12.7 percent compared to 8.1 percent nationally. After all, marijuana is the No. 1 cash crop in Northern California. If you assume most of those users are smoking dope, the number seems incredibly low. It may be that people were afraid to answer truthfully. When we started reporting the stories for this special issue on weed, people wouldn't talk about it. They don't talk to their kids about it either, as Joe Garofoli saw in his story on pot-smoking parents. Reporting on the clubs is simpler, as David Rubien found out, since getting a medicinal marijuana card was easier than getting a driver's license. But the story most indicative of the persistent appeal of weed is Katherine Seligman's eye-opening take on boutique growers' winemaker-like obsession with flavor, types of highs and varietal cultivation.
Connoisseurs of Cannabis
Like fine wine, growing medicinal weed has become so specialized as to inspire tastings and a new vocabulary
GETTING CARDED
One journalist's trip through the culture of medical pot clubs to a pain-free life
Parenting Through the Haze
There may be a healthy dose of adult weed smokers, but how many of them talk straight about it with their kids?
posted by vporter at 8:28 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
It came as no surprise when a Department of Health and Human Services study came out in January reporting that San Francisco has a higher percentage of illegal drug use among adults than anywhere in the country -- 12.7 percent compared to 8.1 percent nationally. After all, marijuana is the No. 1 cash crop in Northern California. If you assume most of those users are smoking dope, the number seems incredibly low. It may be that people were afraid to answer truthfully. When we started reporting the stories for this special issue on weed, people wouldn't talk about it. They don't talk to their kids about it either, as Joe Garofoli saw in his story on pot-smoking parents. Reporting on the clubs is simpler, as David Rubien found out, since getting a medicinal marijuana card was easier than getting a driver's license. But the story most indicative of the persistent appeal of weed is Katherine Seligman's eye-opening take on boutique growers' winemaker-like obsession with flavor, types of highs and varietal cultivation.
Connoisseurs of Cannabis
Like fine wine, growing medicinal weed has become so specialized as to inspire tastings and a new vocabulary
GETTING CARDED
One journalist's trip through the culture of medical pot clubs to a pain-free life
Parenting Through the Haze
There may be a healthy dose of adult weed smokers, but how many of them talk straight about it with their kids?
posted by vporter at 8:28 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Damn, I'm sure glad I pay BC prices. I'll pay $25 for an eighth, but not $200 for an ounce unless the bud is insanely good.
Tons of good genetics is available if you have the money. The reason why Forbes is doing this feature because these are not photos from some underworld den of vice, they are photos shown at trade shows by people who advertise openly and pay their taxes. The photos you see there are probably taken from catalogs provided by legitimate companies in places like Canada and the Netherlands, where laws remain on the books to satisfy the US, but unenforced. Consider this the more entertaining analog of a photo series from a Scandinavian furniture and design expo. The only difference is the guy from Ikea is smoking a blunt and wearing one of those stupid Dr. Seuss hats.
One of the biggest seed distributors in Canada was Marc Emery. He would file his taxes with their business described as a "marijuana seed distributor". Now he's fighting extradition to the US where he faces life in prison. The least statute would allow him to serve is 10 years. There is technically a law on the books in Canada that prohibits selling seeds, but it is not enforced. The future of the legitimate Canadian seed industry is potentially in jeopardy; while Canadian attitudes led to the law go unenforced.
Still, I don't think he will be extradited. One thing rarely mentioned by the press is that the Canadian judiciary on all levels is growing increasingly impatient, for lack of a better word, with Marijuana prosecutions. If the laws on the books for Marijuana were actually enforced, the flood of defendants would cripple the justice system, which is already mired in enough pot cases to seriously impair judicial expediency. Our Supreme Court Chief Justice, Beverly McLachlin, has already publicly opined that the laws on Marijuana are inconsistent with our laws on Alcohol. I'm somewhat optimistic that the courts might decide what legislators don't have the courage to do. Decriminalising Marijuana needs to be forgotten, as it will do nothing to solve our growing problem with organized crime. I don't care if it floods the US market with cheap pot. They will just have to bear it. After all, we rarely complain about the US flooding our streets with cheap handguns, do we?
Ok, dreaming aside, I have to disagree with winks. Cellulose papers have one very excellent property: they are waterproof. They make good joints for hillside safety meetings.
posted by [expletive deleted] at 9:16 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Tons of good genetics is available if you have the money. The reason why Forbes is doing this feature because these are not photos from some underworld den of vice, they are photos shown at trade shows by people who advertise openly and pay their taxes. The photos you see there are probably taken from catalogs provided by legitimate companies in places like Canada and the Netherlands, where laws remain on the books to satisfy the US, but unenforced. Consider this the more entertaining analog of a photo series from a Scandinavian furniture and design expo. The only difference is the guy from Ikea is smoking a blunt and wearing one of those stupid Dr. Seuss hats.
One of the biggest seed distributors in Canada was Marc Emery. He would file his taxes with their business described as a "marijuana seed distributor". Now he's fighting extradition to the US where he faces life in prison. The least statute would allow him to serve is 10 years. There is technically a law on the books in Canada that prohibits selling seeds, but it is not enforced. The future of the legitimate Canadian seed industry is potentially in jeopardy; while Canadian attitudes led to the law go unenforced.
Still, I don't think he will be extradited. One thing rarely mentioned by the press is that the Canadian judiciary on all levels is growing increasingly impatient, for lack of a better word, with Marijuana prosecutions. If the laws on the books for Marijuana were actually enforced, the flood of defendants would cripple the justice system, which is already mired in enough pot cases to seriously impair judicial expediency. Our Supreme Court Chief Justice, Beverly McLachlin, has already publicly opined that the laws on Marijuana are inconsistent with our laws on Alcohol. I'm somewhat optimistic that the courts might decide what legislators don't have the courage to do. Decriminalising Marijuana needs to be forgotten, as it will do nothing to solve our growing problem with organized crime. I don't care if it floods the US market with cheap pot. They will just have to bear it. After all, we rarely complain about the US flooding our streets with cheap handguns, do we?
Ok, dreaming aside, I have to disagree with winks. Cellulose papers have one very excellent property: they are waterproof. They make good joints for hillside safety meetings.
posted by [expletive deleted] at 9:16 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
What was the name of that one they made up for American Beauty?
G-13.
posted by NationalKato at 9:18 AM on May 3, 2007
G-13.
posted by NationalKato at 9:18 AM on May 3, 2007
This thread reminds me there hasn't been a Seattle meet-up in awhile. I'll bring the beer.
posted by vito90 at 9:23 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by vito90 at 9:23 AM on May 3, 2007
Nothing to add, but I've always loved the custom stickers used by the delivery services here. When Juicy Fruit was everywhere, they had a dummied up version of the gum wrapper stuck to the packages.
Sour Diesel and Haze are ridiculously easy to come by in New York.
posted by JaredSeth at 9:32 AM on May 3, 2007
Sour Diesel and Haze are ridiculously easy to come by in New York.
posted by JaredSeth at 9:32 AM on May 3, 2007
given the US's current budget situation, something is eventually going to give. Its a huge, commerically untapped market, and clearly Forbes is trying to bring it out of the black and more into the grey. Oh, and this could very well be a response to stories like this that suggest cannabis is not just a California cash crop, but the United States' #1 cash crop.
posted by Kifer85 at 9:44 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by Kifer85 at 9:44 AM on May 3, 2007
oh, and kudos to forbes for showing the uninformed how beautiful the quality shit can be (instead of the typical shots of hippies smoking poorly rolled spliffs)
posted by Kifer85 at 9:46 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by Kifer85 at 9:46 AM on May 3, 2007
not to mention that to my surprise, local stores are beginning to charge sales tax, which strikes me as kind of insane.
That's because Califonia's Board of Equalization has told them they will collect taxes from the sales of marijuana.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:01 AM on May 3, 2007
That's because Califonia's Board of Equalization has told them they will collect taxes from the sales of marijuana.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:01 AM on May 3, 2007
I hope you're right, [expletive deleted] - I remember Marc Emery from when he ran City Lights books in London, and he's a good guy. A little obnoxious, perhaps, but he sure stands up for what he believes in and we all benefit from that - I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
posted by Flashman at 10:09 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by Flashman at 10:09 AM on May 3, 2007
The new clear, cellulose papers are just fine and dandy if you ask me. Maybe you're not rolling yours right?
posted by ageispolis at 10:37 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by ageispolis at 10:37 AM on May 3, 2007
I wish pot agreed with me, as it's almost easier to buy in Vancouver than liquor. I mean, to buy beer, I actually have to leave the house and go outside. To buy pot, you just wait for the nice man with the suitcase full of little glass jars, each holding a different variety of weed, and make your choice. The guy even takes his shoes off at the door. Sadly, though, the stuff does exactly the same thing to me in my forties as it did when I was a teenager: makes me restless, nervous, paranoid, and completely disables my ability to think about anything other than my own oddness. So, no thanks.
Though I do sometimes miss those "Holy shit, man, this song is fucking incredible!" moments.
posted by jokeefe at 10:45 AM on May 3, 2007
Though I do sometimes miss those "Holy shit, man, this song is fucking incredible!" moments.
posted by jokeefe at 10:45 AM on May 3, 2007
ageispolis, my son dislikes those clear papers too, despite the cool factor of having a transparent joint.
posted by jokeefe at 10:46 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by jokeefe at 10:46 AM on May 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
I actually stopped rolling a joint to read this thread. I was in Amsterdam a few weeks ago, and now I'm back in stupid Calgary wishing I had the weed-ar to find some Haze or Northern Lights.
posted by chudmonkey at 11:01 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by chudmonkey at 11:01 AM on May 3, 2007
Hey, does anyone reading this live in Hamburg, Germany?
Long story, short: I was there a few months ago, and I went to "The Amsterdam Headshop" on the Reeperbahn. The fellow in the shop gave me a small booklet of cardboard slips used for making roaches. I really want more of these booklets, for nostalgia purposes mostly.
So e-mail me if you ever hit that shop. I could pay you to mail me some.
posted by chudmonkey at 11:12 AM on May 3, 2007
Long story, short: I was there a few months ago, and I went to "The Amsterdam Headshop" on the Reeperbahn. The fellow in the shop gave me a small booklet of cardboard slips used for making roaches. I really want more of these booklets, for nostalgia purposes mostly.
So e-mail me if you ever hit that shop. I could pay you to mail me some.
posted by chudmonkey at 11:12 AM on May 3, 2007
Nice, the slideshow goes right into celebrity chefs immediately following this one. MMMmmm. Munchies.
I'll be in Amsterdam this Sunday, bitches -- I'll be sure to take notes.
posted by Ogre Lawless at 11:22 AM on May 3, 2007
I'll be in Amsterdam this Sunday, bitches -- I'll be sure to take notes.
posted by Ogre Lawless at 11:22 AM on May 3, 2007
What was the name of that one they made up for American Beauty?
They didn't make that up. G-13(13th Generation) is a very old strain of quasi-legendary status.
posted by well_balanced at 11:22 AM on May 3, 2007
They didn't make that up. G-13(13th Generation) is a very old strain of quasi-legendary status.
posted by well_balanced at 11:22 AM on May 3, 2007
winks007 writes "The last thing I want to do is put my mouth on someones dirty ass pipe ... Here's a zig-zag, wrap it, bust up, keep it dry and STFU."
Dude, stop bitchin or get yer own bag.
posted by krinklyfig at 11:35 AM on May 3, 2007
Dude, stop bitchin or get yer own bag.
posted by krinklyfig at 11:35 AM on May 3, 2007
I understand “High Times” is running a piece on the UBS decison to abandon its two-year attempt to set up a hedge fund operation using proprietary traders when the Swiss bank announced it would fold Dillon Read Capital Management back into its investment banking arm, dude.
posted by Smedleyman at 11:36 AM on May 3, 2007 [4 favorites]
posted by Smedleyman at 11:36 AM on May 3, 2007 [4 favorites]
Where's NYC Diesel? White Widow? Bubblegum? AK-47? Northern Lights? Come on Forbes. That's like mentioning "Top US Tech Companies" and leaving out IBM, Microsoft, Google and Intel.
posted by geoff. at 11:46 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by geoff. at 11:46 AM on May 3, 2007
Hey, does anyone reading this live in Hamburg, Germany?
Long story, short: I was there a few months ago, and I went to "The Amsterdam Headshop" on the Reeperbahn. The fellow in the shop gave me a small booklet of cardboard slips used for making roaches. I really want more of these booklets, for nostalgia purposes mostly.
So e-mail me if you ever hit that shop. I could pay you to mail me some.
Tearing off little pieces of business cards and rolling them in your fingers works just as well. Not that I would know, or anything. Allegedly.
posted by ninjew at 11:49 AM on May 3, 2007
Long story, short: I was there a few months ago, and I went to "The Amsterdam Headshop" on the Reeperbahn. The fellow in the shop gave me a small booklet of cardboard slips used for making roaches. I really want more of these booklets, for nostalgia purposes mostly.
So e-mail me if you ever hit that shop. I could pay you to mail me some.
Tearing off little pieces of business cards and rolling them in your fingers works just as well. Not that I would know, or anything. Allegedly.
posted by ninjew at 11:49 AM on May 3, 2007
High Times: Subprime Woes Hurt GE, General Dynamics
High Times: The Collapse of Aramanth, Notes from the Inside
posted by geoff. at 11:50 AM on May 3, 2007
High Times: The Collapse of Aramanth, Notes from the Inside
posted by geoff. at 11:50 AM on May 3, 2007
You can find those little cardboard slips in most shops. They come in handy if you roll many a doob.
posted by ageispolis at 11:59 AM on May 3, 2007
posted by ageispolis at 11:59 AM on May 3, 2007
ageispolis: They were similar. I've never actually looked for similar slips in any local shops, because I didn't take to rolling joints until my time in Amsterdam - it's good to know I'll find them.
I still want some of my German booklets, though, because I stupidly didn't save myself any as souvenirs, and because using them reminds me of a fun trip and a friend I made. I'm sappy that way.
posted by chudmonkey at 12:12 PM on May 3, 2007
I still want some of my German booklets, though, because I stupidly didn't save myself any as souvenirs, and because using them reminds me of a fun trip and a friend I made. I'm sappy that way.
posted by chudmonkey at 12:12 PM on May 3, 2007
I should clarify that the slips I'm looking for are not just blank, white pieces of card. They have words on them! And the booklets have a cool cover. That's how they are able to evoke nostalgia.
posted by chudmonkey at 12:17 PM on May 3, 2007
posted by chudmonkey at 12:17 PM on May 3, 2007
gotta love nyc. The delivery guys routinely carry several of these variaties. And they make it to your apt in 30-40 minutes
Man, I miss living in Brooklyn.
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 1:35 PM on May 3, 2007
Man, I miss living in Brooklyn.
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 1:35 PM on May 3, 2007
Also, for your lung health, consider using a vaporizer. I hear the Volcano is pretty nice. *ahem*
posted by i_am_a_Jedi at 1:51 PM on May 3, 2007
posted by i_am_a_Jedi at 1:51 PM on May 3, 2007
So, is this a tacit acknowledgement that people who sell drugs have so much money that they read Forbes, or that people who have so much money that they read Forbes enjoy smoking pot?
posted by davejay at 2:11 PM on May 3, 2007
posted by davejay at 2:11 PM on May 3, 2007
To buy pot, you just wait for the nice man with the suitcase full of little glass jars, each holding a different variety of weed, and make your choice.
Oh ffs, I am now jealous, very jealous.
posted by five fresh fish at 11:36 PM on May 3, 2007
Oh ffs, I am now jealous, very jealous.
posted by five fresh fish at 11:36 PM on May 3, 2007
The Volcano is fantastic.
Marc Emery himself explained to me that The Volcano's genius lies in a setting of 6-7. This way, it only burns the cannaboid compounds that produce the buzz part of the high. Meaning, you barely get burnt out from vaporized smoke. And it's incredibly economical as well. You only need roughly a quarter of what you're used to. Anyone in the Vancouver area should head down to the Urban Shaman and try one out for $5.
posted by ageispolis at 3:02 AM on May 4, 2007
Marc Emery himself explained to me that The Volcano's genius lies in a setting of 6-7. This way, it only burns the cannaboid compounds that produce the buzz part of the high. Meaning, you barely get burnt out from vaporized smoke. And it's incredibly economical as well. You only need roughly a quarter of what you're used to. Anyone in the Vancouver area should head down to the Urban Shaman and try one out for $5.
posted by ageispolis at 3:02 AM on May 4, 2007
kbanas, I hear you and feel for you, and I hope I might be able to help you find a new man and get the drugs you deserve. Here are some tips:
Who do you buy from now? Can you just tell him, "Hey, man, your dope is not really primo, do you have any way to connect me with some primo shit?"
Don't be shy about enjoying marijuana. Once you start being public and honest, you'll find people you never would have guessed also move in these circles. Ask them about their suppliers.
Where do you live? Some sympathetics fellow Americans in this very thread might be able to point you in the right direction.
Godspeed and all the best, brother.
Good luck, I hope you get better drugs soon.
posted by Meatbomb at 6:50 AM on May 4, 2007
Who do you buy from now? Can you just tell him, "Hey, man, your dope is not really primo, do you have any way to connect me with some primo shit?"
Don't be shy about enjoying marijuana. Once you start being public and honest, you'll find people you never would have guessed also move in these circles. Ask them about their suppliers.
Where do you live? Some sympathetics fellow Americans in this very thread might be able to point you in the right direction.
Godspeed and all the best, brother.
Good luck, I hope you get better drugs soon.
posted by Meatbomb at 6:50 AM on May 4, 2007
We should start a MeFi seed exchange. Shame AskMe took the colour we'd want.
posted by five fresh fish at 6:55 PM on May 4, 2007
posted by five fresh fish at 6:55 PM on May 4, 2007
Portland meetup, anyone?
posted by croutonsupafreak at 7:05 PM on May 4, 2007
posted by croutonsupafreak at 7:05 PM on May 4, 2007
VERY LATE and for the record:
and hosted from uranus, by snobbery I mean the guys who almost always produce a pipe for busting up cause the paper ruins the taste of their 450-600/oz greenery.
Jussaying, that's all. Also...youknowwhatImean!
I'm a germ freak/semi-freak, not a snob.
posted by winks007 at 12:32 PM on May 7, 2007
and hosted from uranus, by snobbery I mean the guys who almost always produce a pipe for busting up cause the paper ruins the taste of their 450-600/oz greenery.
Jussaying, that's all. Also...youknowwhatImean!
I'm a germ freak/semi-freak, not a snob.
posted by winks007 at 12:32 PM on May 7, 2007
It's glass. Give it a quick flame and it'll be sterile. Just remember to let it cool down before it hits your lips.
If it ain't glass, it's ass.
posted by five fresh fish at 2:36 PM on May 7, 2007
If it ain't glass, it's ass.
posted by five fresh fish at 2:36 PM on May 7, 2007
Fair enough, winks007.
I didn't actually know what you meant, but do now ... so let's do it up now.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 12:33 PM on May 8, 2007
I didn't actually know what you meant, but do now ... so let's do it up now.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 12:33 PM on May 8, 2007
TY, AHFU, I was a boy scout, therefore, I am always prepared. BTW, I looove my pipe, I just don't share with others.
posted by winks007 at 4:13 PM on May 8, 2007
posted by winks007 at 4:13 PM on May 8, 2007
I can imagine what kind of market must exist for some fucking decent mid-grade, say I dunno...200/oz.
Here is't either schwag or the out-tha-box shit. Makes me cry a bit.
posted by winks007 at 4:16 PM on May 8, 2007
Here is't either schwag or the out-tha-box shit. Makes me cry a bit.
posted by winks007 at 4:16 PM on May 8, 2007
I've always wondered if a good old traditional wooden pipe might work nicely.
OTOH, nothing beats vapourizing. Particulate smoke is, in the end, really frakkin' disgusting.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:10 PM on May 8, 2007
OTOH, nothing beats vapourizing. Particulate smoke is, in the end, really frakkin' disgusting.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:10 PM on May 8, 2007
[walks into thread late. sees dead horse on ground. kicks it.]
"I don't want to legalize marijuana because it's safe. I want marijuana legalized because it's dangerous."
[sticks a fork in dead horse.]
Delivery to your door could only happen if we could legalize it. Then you'd get your pot with your pizza and crazy bread. Taxation. Regulation.
posted by ZachsMind at 10:42 PM on May 13, 2007
"I don't want to legalize marijuana because it's safe. I want marijuana legalized because it's dangerous."
[sticks a fork in dead horse.]
Delivery to your door could only happen if we could legalize it. Then you'd get your pot with your pizza and crazy bread. Taxation. Regulation.
posted by ZachsMind at 10:42 PM on May 13, 2007
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