I think the dragons be somewhere on the other side of Mordorsoft Mountains.
October 31, 2007 11:59 AM Subscribe
Google's All-Seeing Eye? But Google is all about openness. Well, somewhat about openness. GPhone!
(I actually read that as "Gonzales's All-Seeing Eye' at first. Makes more sense.)
posted by DU at 12:19 PM on October 31, 2007
(I actually read that as "Gonzales's All-Seeing Eye' at first. Makes more sense.)
posted by DU at 12:19 PM on October 31, 2007
I kinda liked it, but really it's more like just a bunch of web related terms on a sheet of paper than anything with actual thought as to the placement or layout.
posted by jonson at 12:19 PM on October 31, 2007
posted by jonson at 12:19 PM on October 31, 2007
the Mordorsoft thing made me groan and then hit the back button.
posted by shmegegge at 12:38 PM on October 31, 2007
posted by shmegegge at 12:38 PM on October 31, 2007
For those so inclinded: The Rastorbator.
posted by blue_beetle at 12:50 PM on October 31, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by blue_beetle at 12:50 PM on October 31, 2007 [1 favorite]
On his compass, "Good/Regress" and "Evil/Progress" are presented as diametrically opposed pairs. There's something deeply wrong, albeit awfully common, with the idea that "Evil" and "Progress" are opposite one other.
posted by Wolfdog at 12:59 PM on October 31, 2007
posted by Wolfdog at 12:59 PM on October 31, 2007
that is an excellent point, and speaks volumes about the quality of the poster, to my mind.
posted by shmegegge at 1:01 PM on October 31, 2007
posted by shmegegge at 1:01 PM on October 31, 2007
"that is an excellent point, and speaks volumes about the quality of the poster, to my mind."
Oh, oh wait wait wait lemme get the popcorn, WAIT!
posted by From Bklyn at 1:30 PM on October 31, 2007
Oh, oh wait wait wait lemme get the popcorn, WAIT!
posted by From Bklyn at 1:30 PM on October 31, 2007
Wolfdog: "On his compass, "Good/Regress" and "Evil/Progress" are presented as diametrically opposed pairs."
I think you might be misreading his intention. The compass just maps the layout as Good->topleft, Evil->topright, Progress->bottomleft, Regress->bottomright. Sure, he sides Progress with Good, And Regress with Evil, but I don't think he thought it through any farther than that. I don't think he intended to have Evil ideally diametrically opposed to Progress.
posted by team lowkey at 1:40 PM on October 31, 2007
I think you might be misreading his intention. The compass just maps the layout as Good->topleft, Evil->topright, Progress->bottomleft, Regress->bottomright. Sure, he sides Progress with Good, And Regress with Evil, but I don't think he thought it through any farther than that. I don't think he intended to have Evil ideally diametrically opposed to Progress.
posted by team lowkey at 1:40 PM on October 31, 2007
Well, I think the issue that Wolfdog raises that's worth mentioning is that there is a range where progress and evil meet, and where good and regress meet, but that doesn't seem to exist in his model except in sort of a mishmash in the middle of everything. I agree with Wolfdog that the entire project would have been improved if it had been, for instance, Good in the top left, evil in the bottom right, and then progress perhaps in the top right and regress in the bottom left. That way, there could be stuff that's in between good and evil but solidly in the progress camp which would then be in the top right corner of the map. Or there could be stuff that is stuff that isn't necessarily progressive or regressive but certainly good, which would go in the top left corner. Right now it looks like the worst stuff in the world should logically be halfway down the leftmost edge of the page, where he has "Metadata Gaol." Instead, we Fear Uncertainty Doubt way top left, which would imply that those things aren't at all Regressive. It's just a design criticism, though.
posted by shmegegge at 1:48 PM on October 31, 2007
posted by shmegegge at 1:48 PM on October 31, 2007
Reminds me of The Picture of Everything, only less colourful and more lame.
posted by Reggie Digest at 1:50 PM on October 31, 2007
posted by Reggie Digest at 1:50 PM on October 31, 2007
... oh. by 'poster' you meant the actual image. Well crap.
Popcorn, anyone?
posted by From Bklyn at 1:57 PM on October 31, 2007
Popcorn, anyone?
posted by From Bklyn at 1:57 PM on October 31, 2007
I'm a guano miner in the Caves of Taxonomies.
No, . . . . really!
posted by ahimsakid at 2:03 PM on October 31, 2007
No, . . . . really!
posted by ahimsakid at 2:03 PM on October 31, 2007
If this was actually drawn to look like a Tolkein map, it would be a lot funnier (or even funny). But, sorry, it's just a bad drawing of some internet memes.
posted by doctor_negative at 2:07 PM on October 31, 2007
posted by doctor_negative at 2:07 PM on October 31, 2007
shmegegge: "It's just a design criticism, though."
Exactly. I think you and Wolfdog are thinking about this a lot more thoroughly than the artist did. It looks like he only has a cursory understanding of most of the topics he put on the page. I'm doubting he thought through how everything would logically sit on a proper graph. It's just a kind of "Here's the bad land. They make the regressive stuff. Here's the good land. They make the progressive stuff", and not much more.
posted by team lowkey at 2:08 PM on October 31, 2007
Exactly. I think you and Wolfdog are thinking about this a lot more thoroughly than the artist did. It looks like he only has a cursory understanding of most of the topics he put on the page. I'm doubting he thought through how everything would logically sit on a proper graph. It's just a kind of "Here's the bad land. They make the regressive stuff. Here's the good land. They make the progressive stuff", and not much more.
posted by team lowkey at 2:08 PM on October 31, 2007
God, I was wondering what you meant by that! Now I see the confusion.
No, I was saying that goodnewsfortheinsane is a big jerk.
Wait... I mean the opposite of that.
posted by shmegegge at 2:08 PM on October 31, 2007
No, I was saying that goodnewsfortheinsane is a big jerk.
Wait... I mean the opposite of that.
posted by shmegegge at 2:08 PM on October 31, 2007
Totally loved that. So much better than other typical social mapping visualization. It's fun, 3-D and the artist says if you don't like it or want to better it, then go for it.
A slightly mad poster put together on behalf of Osmosoft for tomorrow’s internal Open Source Awareness Day which Phil has printed out in scary A0. Like all my images, I’ve put this under a CC, so feel free to reproduce it, mash it up, do a better job, whatever!
posted by nickyskye at 2:53 PM on October 31, 2007
A slightly mad poster put together on behalf of Osmosoft for tomorrow’s internal Open Source Awareness Day which Phil has printed out in scary A0. Like all my images, I’ve put this under a CC, so feel free to reproduce it, mash it up, do a better job, whatever!
posted by nickyskye at 2:53 PM on October 31, 2007
I kinda liked it, but really it's more like just a bunch of web related terms on a sheet of paper than anything with actual thought as to the placement or layout.
Exactly. It seems to be a collection of items that author finds distasteful, and ones he likes, with obtusely created imagery attached to it. Shall we draw pictures of Ballmer and Gates with grotesquely distorted faces next?
It took me a second to figure out what greatly irritated me about this picture, and then it hit me, it divides issues on the Internet in solely black and white terms, literally (look at the color schemes). It is propaganda, it is poorly created propaganda, and fuck propaganda. Especially for a cause I support.
posted by zabuni at 4:49 PM on October 31, 2007
Exactly. It seems to be a collection of items that author finds distasteful, and ones he likes, with obtusely created imagery attached to it. Shall we draw pictures of Ballmer and Gates with grotesquely distorted faces next?
It took me a second to figure out what greatly irritated me about this picture, and then it hit me, it divides issues on the Internet in solely black and white terms, literally (look at the color schemes). It is propaganda, it is poorly created propaganda, and fuck propaganda. Especially for a cause I support.
posted by zabuni at 4:49 PM on October 31, 2007
So, to summarize:
Poster: The Web Is Agreement
Metafilter: No it isn't.
posted by salvia at 6:25 PM on October 31, 2007 [1 favorite]
Poster: The Web Is Agreement
Metafilter: No it isn't.
posted by salvia at 6:25 PM on October 31, 2007 [1 favorite]
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posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 11:59 AM on October 31, 2007