...I DRINK IT UP!!
January 22, 2008 11:31 AM   Subscribe

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE! In light of this morning's Oscar noms, here's a site where there will be discussion about There Will Be Blood. Via Projects.
posted by hermitosis (52 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite
 
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!

Oh yeah? Well, I SPIT ON YOUR TUNA SANDWICH!

also: wow, projects actually works...
posted by koeselitz at 11:36 AM on January 22, 2008


nom nom nom...
posted by twine42 at 11:39 AM on January 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


I haven't seen the movie (I swore off PTA after Magnolia). Apparently it's good?
posted by Dr-Baa at 11:51 AM on January 22, 2008


Eight nominations for Blood is very nice, even though Paul Dano was overlooked and Jonny Greenwood's incredible score was deemed ineligible. Still, those nominations look pretty good to me overall, with the exception of the foreign films, which are a travesty. And what's up with all the love for Juno? For fun Oscar commentary, I recommend Nathaniel R.

Also, thank you, hermitosis. So proud to be in the blue! Draaaaaainage!
posted by muckster at 11:55 AM on January 22, 2008


Dr-Baa, everyone I know that doesn't like PT Anderson liked this movie, so perhaps that is a good sign for you to see it. The converse is not true as far as I can tell. Most people I know that like PT Anderson also like this film.
posted by Falconetti at 11:56 AM on January 22, 2008


I haven't seen the movie (I swore off PTA after Magnolia). Apparently it's good?

It's been described as a real stylistic departure for PTA, for what it's worth. Magnolia was a pretty immature film in a lot of ways; the consensus seems to be that this movie marks PTA's arrival as a mature director.
posted by mr_roboto at 11:56 AM on January 22, 2008


I think it's awesome that the milkshake line was inspired by a senator at a congressional hearing on the Teapot Dome scandal from 1924 [scroll halfway down].
posted by turaho at 11:57 AM on January 22, 2008


There Will be Milkshakes, an accompaniment to Greg Nog's comment.
posted by inconsequentialist at 12:07 PM on January 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


Thank you for the recommendations, I think I will check it out.

Item, I'm aghast that you would think I'd like Atonement, much less watch it. And I haven't watched a Matthew McConaughey movie in.... (check's IMDB) well, ever.

As for Juno, guilty as charged. Piss off.
posted by Dr-Baa at 12:11 PM on January 22, 2008


check's = awesome's
posted by Dr-Baa at 12:11 PM on January 22, 2008


I haven't seen the movie (I swore off PTA after Magnolia).

Then you missed Punch Drunk Love, which is kind of a masterpiece. There Will Be Blood is pretty solid too. I understand your reasoning, though. Magnolia was awful enough to make a careful viewer cry "never again!" The biggest slop-fest of scenery chewing and unearned monologues ever.
posted by damehex at 12:18 PM on January 22, 2008 [3 favorites]


This year's Golden Raspberry nominations just got announced.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 12:18 PM on January 22, 2008


Wow, muckster's site brings all the boys to the yard. And hermitosis is like, "It's better than yours".

Teach me.
posted by cortex at 12:21 PM on January 22, 2008


...Jonny Greenwood's incredible score was deemed ineligible.

muckster, do you know why?
posted by Prospero at 12:29 PM on January 22, 2008


I think it was because a lot of the songs weren't recorded specifically for the film. Something like that anyway.
posted by puke & cry at 12:34 PM on January 22, 2008


The problem is Brahms. Awards Daily: "The film's score, apparently, referenced other music so that it was considered 'diluted.' Although it's strange because the movie’s end credits is really where the referenced music is, apparently. But the Academy has a long history of doing this sort of thing, particularly where 'rock stars' are concerned."
posted by muckster at 12:34 PM on January 22, 2008


I've been saying that line to random people (at work) for the past couple of days since seeing this in Projects.

...and yes I do a damn good Daniel Day Lewis!
posted by P.o.B. at 12:40 PM on January 22, 2008


Take heart; Nino Rota's Godfather score was deemed also ineligible for Oscar consideration, so Jonny's in good company.
posted by Bromius at 12:41 PM on January 22, 2008


But he'd have to charge, cortex.

Can anyone enlighten me as to why The Diving Bell and the Butterfly didn't get a best picture nomination? Was it considered a foreign film, but with an American director?
posted by jokeefe at 12:41 PM on January 22, 2008


I'm going to see this tonight. I have no idea with the milkshake line refers to, but I'm pretty sure Daniel Day Lewis can drink mine.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 12:55 PM on January 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


I was happy to find this review amongst all the fawning. The fact that the movie is nearly universally loved I think speaks to the sad state of US cinema.
posted by wemayfreeze at 12:56 PM on January 22, 2008


That's totally a meme I can get behind. Why YTMND hasn't picked this up, I don't know.

No Jonny Greenwood? Boo

As for The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, I just think it was simply the matter of not enough people voting for it. It wasn't picked up in Foreign Film because France didn't submit it as their entry—they chose Persepolis instead, which is a pretty hard film to argue with in terms of quality.

On preview: Nevermind, found it.
posted by Weebot at 12:57 PM on January 22, 2008


I saw it over the weekend, and in spite of high hopes, it really never gelled for me. Everytime I felt like I was getting a handle on the story line, it would meander to another place and lose momentum. Until you realize that the story is the contradictory nature of a driven amazing person in American history like Daniel Plainview (DDL), but it lacks, the cohesive objective POV to keep it moving forward in an arresting way. Maybe it needed to be told in the "second person" such as Nick Carraway (The Great Gatsby) or Jedediah Leland (Joseph Cotton) in Citizen Kane. Seems these amazing American archetypes are too big to tell their own story, because they're too full of contradictions. The parts just ended up seeming greater than the sum.

That being said DDL was fantastic. Perhaps too much so, every scene is a tour de force of virtuosity that obviously PT Anderson could barely contain. It comnes across like a collection of amazing acting scenes, as opposed to a carefully modulated storyline. But it was beautifully crafted film, and I think all the nominations except maybe Best Picture and Best Director are well deserved.

I love Jonny Greenwood's score and have the Nonesuch CD. Beautiful aching Messiaen-like moments of silence and spiritual yearning. That being said I didn't think it fit well with the film. As cool as it is to have Jonny Greenwood score a film, Anderson should've gone with whoever today's equivalent of Bernard Herrman is or a composer who is more comfortable scoring an epic. The themes, the spaces are huge in this film and JG's score seems too internal.

Anyhow, great idea for a website. I love the snippets of DDL, they're hilarious.
posted by Skygazer at 1:05 PM on January 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


I can't read this thread because I am going to see TWBB in a few days, but I wanted to express how much I am looking forward to DDL drinking a milkshake.
posted by spec80 at 1:38 PM on January 22, 2008


So let's talk about that ending. Yay or nay? I say nay.
posted by cazoo at 1:42 PM on January 22, 2008


wemayfreeze: I don't know what you're talking about, considering that 2007 has been a banner year for American cinema, even if you don't think that There Will Be Blood is worth the celluloid it's printed on. Maybe American Hollywood Cinema is in dire straits, but who looks there for consistent quality?

As for Stephanie Zachareck's review, it seems more mildly critical rather than an outright pan. She seems to be one of those Magnolia fans who miss the PT Anderson's previous brand of messy emotionalism, something that's pretty in keeping with Zachareck's sensibility.

Skygazer: I would disagree about Greenwood's score being problematic because it was too internal because There Will Be Blood is, despite the trappings of an epic, is very much a psychodrama between Plainview and, uh, everyone else. I actually thought it was an incredible score, and in imagining the alternative (another quirky Jon Brion score?!), I'm happy with that Greenwood got the job.

spec80: Despite anything you may have heard to the contrary, Daniel Day-Lewis does not drink any milkshakes, sadly.
posted by Weebot at 1:58 PM on January 22, 2008


And while we're parsing the nomination count: Norbit 1, Zodiac / Before The Devil Knows Your Dead 0
posted by Weebot at 2:10 PM on January 22, 2008


In a just world, Zodiac would have at least gotten a visual effects nomination. But that Oscar always goes to a film with effects that call attention to themselves.

(Zodiac was probably my favorite movie of 2007, come to think of it.)
posted by Prospero at 2:20 PM on January 22, 2008


Weebot: I'm happy Greenwood got the job.

I am too. Big props to him, he's young (in composer years) and I fully expect one day to see a J. Greenwood score worthy of an oscar. As I said I bought the CD and I'm listening to it all the time and I love it. But he's suggesting a complexity that he's not able to achieve yet, and fuck anyone following in the footsteps of Olivier Messiaen, and doesn't want to sound purely imitative, has his or her work cut out.

Anyhow, I hope people do go see this film, it's still pretty great.
posted by Skygazer at 2:28 PM on January 22, 2008


Weebot - cheese and crackers, man... spoiler alert, maybe?
posted by spec80 at 2:37 PM on January 22, 2008


Skygazer, I have heard similar objections about the story line, but I don't think it meanders at all -- it's actually extremely streamlined, to the point where it may seem like all the parts don't hang together. My take on this is that PTA is banking on our familiarity with similar epics: we know the trajectory, so he can be extremely economical about which scenes to include. If you take a look at the screenplay, you'll see how many scenes were omitted, whittling the movie down to the bare essentials necessary to follow the story.

On top of that, There Will Be Blood doesn't reveal what it is truly about until it's over. The first time I saw it, I was absolutely flabbergasted by the ending. I somehow expected a whole new story arc about HW in Mexico etc. By the second time, I realized that it couldn't possibly end any other way, and that this was set up early on. Can't say I missed an objective POV, either -- in fact, I prefer bringing my own.
posted by muckster at 2:42 PM on January 22, 2008


spec80: I keep on forgetting that tone doesn't carry over the internet well. I should have put a ;_; at the end.
posted by Weebot at 2:44 PM on January 22, 2008


muckster: Oil!, the Upton Sinclair novel that There Will Be Blood is based on, is actually the HW character's story from what I hear. PTA apparently took the first few chapters and took those as a starting point for his film.
posted by Weebot at 2:49 PM on January 22, 2008


Weebot - It's ok. One day I will meet him. And I will somehow pull a Bugs Bunny and he will, out of spite (I do not know the context in the movie), drink my milkshake. He will drink it up.
posted by spec80 at 2:55 PM on January 22, 2008


Voting Yay on the ending. It was a complete, incomprehensible surfacing from madness; a breakdown blistering with insane deliverance that was somehow more akin to some kind of manic melody than a straightforward spoken word performance.
posted by secret about box at 4:05 PM on January 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


I loved the ending. I laughed out loud at it, but I think that may have been the intended reaction.

When describing the effect of this film to my friends, I've called it a cross between Citizen Kane and Lawrence of Arabia, except then you personify that movie, get him really drunk, put him in the desert, and have him write a screenplay. If you produce that screenplay, you get There Will Be Blood. Definitely an amazing movie.
posted by silby at 4:53 PM on January 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


We can learn something from this project. MeFi would only be improved if, every time a link was clicked, we heard Daniel Plainview screaming about milkshakes.
posted by bicyclefish at 5:11 PM on January 22, 2008


I laughed out loud at it, but I think that may have been the intended reaction.

MeFi would only be improved if, every time a link was clicked, we heard Daniel Plainview screaming about milkshakes.

I love that I agree with both of these statements.
posted by secret about box at 5:23 PM on January 22, 2008


I don't get this post. Feel out of a private joke loop. hmm. And I love the Oscars. Am feeling like I wore the wrong outfit to the party. So I'll just sit in the corner here at the end of the thread.

Didn't see *any* movies this year. Not one I can remember anyway and nothing that was nominated. Usually I'm a huge movie goer and love the Academy Awards, have fun betting on who might win, chomping on popcorn while appraising the dresses and beautiful people.

wow It's the 80th Oscars. Sunday, February 24, 2008. Jon Stewart has been set to host. This will mark Stewart's second stint as Oscar host. meh. I love Billy Crystal the best. But this year is a politically charged one, so maybe Stewart is an ok choice. *quietly leaves
posted by nickyskye at 8:58 PM on January 22, 2008


There Will Be Blood was so bad it made me angry.

[draws line in sand with foot]
posted by regicide is good for you at 9:10 PM on January 22, 2008


I was right. DDL can drink my milkshake. And he can do it from across the room. *SLLLRRRRRP*
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 9:18 PM on January 22, 2008


Godd**n it, warn us when there's embedded audio or video in a FPP link! I just woke up the whole damn house with that first link.
posted by intermod at 9:46 PM on January 22, 2008


hmm. no nom for zodiac. it shoulda at least got a nomination for best pic. i understand critiques that it is slow, or too long... but - nah! i think a better description is that it is subtle, sustained. one of the best epics i've seen in a long time.

i haven't had a chance to see there will be blood, not yet. i am looking forward to it, with trepidation. i really loved boogie nights but magnolia was an awful rambling excess, and i absolutley hated punch drunk love.

at least 3:10 to yuma got nominated for best original score.

but yeah - norbit? whaaat? the?? fuck???

academy awards, suck.
posted by lapolla at 12:35 AM on January 23, 2008


Sorry about the autoplay, intermod -- I'd hate to be woken up by Daniel Plainview. I've been fiddling with the settings, and now it should stop if you're logged in. If there are any vanilla experts who could help with setting a cookie or similar, that'd be terrific. It has to play once though, doesn't it?

Would love to hear regicide's reasons for being so angry at the movie. As for John Steward and the Academy Awards, it still remains to be seen if they'll go on at all....
posted by muckster at 7:31 AM on January 23, 2008


Where is the love for Philip Seymour Hoffman in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead? And Zodiac deserves respect as well. I did not care for Juno one bit.
posted by porn in the woods at 8:40 AM on January 23, 2008


Juno had it's moments, but it was like watching a 15 year old channeling a clever 40 year old writer for two hours.
posted by mecran01 at 9:13 PM on January 23, 2008


its
posted by mecran01 at 9:13 PM on January 23, 2008


hahaha oh no
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 2:06 AM on January 26, 2008


I had mixed feelings about Blood. As a hormonal woman, there is but one thing that may have improved the film for me:

A long, loving depiction of the ways in which Eli Sunday sinned. Especially if they involved bored housewives and/or strapping oil workers.

okay, so there are other things. This, however, is a big one.
posted by pxe2000 at 4:01 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]


Ken Jennings (obviously lurking here somewheres) linked it! Congrats, muckster, that's high praise in my book!
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 1:48 PM on February 6, 2008


Yes, congrats.

I'm realizing DDL sounds like a psychotic muppet when he goes into his milkshake routine. Especially when he goes SLLLUUURRRPPP!!
posted by Skygazer at 8:10 AM on February 7, 2008


This made my day.
posted by muckster at 7:00 AM on February 10, 2008


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