Daydream Painting
February 25, 2008 12:56 PM Subscribe
Sonic Youth fan? Got a spare 5 million dollars? Then you can be the proud owner of the original art for 'Daydream Nation' - Kerze by Gerhard Richter.
That was a painting?
posted by Senor Cardgage at 12:59 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by Senor Cardgage at 12:59 PM on February 25, 2008
Yeah, I like Sonic Youth, but not 5 million dollars like them. On the other hand, if I was ridiculously rich, I might pony up for the pink shirt Bob Mould wore on the back cover of Warehouse: Songs and Stories, or a lock of Paul Westerberg's tremendous mullet.
posted by DecemberBoy at 1:06 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by DecemberBoy at 1:06 PM on February 25, 2008
Yeah, I like Sonic Youth, but not 5 million dollars like them.
Well the SY connection is kind of a blind, isn't it? The post (which isn't all that great) is really about the sale of a great painting by a stupendous contemporary artist. As much as I love it, though, I'd be more interested in owning one of the Baader-Meinhof series.
posted by OmieWise at 1:18 PM on February 25, 2008
Well the SY connection is kind of a blind, isn't it? The post (which isn't all that great) is really about the sale of a great painting by a stupendous contemporary artist. As much as I love it, though, I'd be more interested in owning one of the Baader-Meinhof series.
posted by OmieWise at 1:18 PM on February 25, 2008
If I had five million I'd buy the ashes of Ian Curtis and place them as the symbolic heart of a SRL-style Ian Curtis murderbot.
posted by bunnytricks at 1:25 PM on February 25, 2008 [4 favorites]
posted by bunnytricks at 1:25 PM on February 25, 2008 [4 favorites]
Somewhat related:
Sonic Youth are preparing to launch an art show, which they hope will travel the world over a number of years, including a stop in New York. "We're putting together this museum show that's utilizing all the artists that we've worked with on different covers and concepts, and that's going to happen for two or three years," said Moore, after the band played "Kool Thing" at Jacobs's request. "It's going to happen in young museums, there's one outside of Paris, there's one in Malmö, Sweden," he added.
posted by psmealey at 1:32 PM on February 25, 2008
Sonic Youth are preparing to launch an art show, which they hope will travel the world over a number of years, including a stop in New York. "We're putting together this museum show that's utilizing all the artists that we've worked with on different covers and concepts, and that's going to happen for two or three years," said Moore, after the band played "Kool Thing" at Jacobs's request. "It's going to happen in young museums, there's one outside of Paris, there's one in Malmö, Sweden," he added.
posted by psmealey at 1:32 PM on February 25, 2008
Save your money for when the original album artwork for Load comes on the market.
posted by brain_drain at 1:35 PM on February 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by brain_drain at 1:35 PM on February 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
Pun intended.
posted by brain_drain at 1:35 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by brain_drain at 1:35 PM on February 25, 2008
I bet you could buy a whole truckload of Raymond Pettibon drawings for five million bucks.
posted by Fuzzy Monster at 1:45 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by Fuzzy Monster at 1:45 PM on February 25, 2008
The photo-painting, Kerze (Candle), is the work of avant-garde German artist Gerhard Richter.
What the heck is a "photo-painting" in this context?
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 1:47 PM on February 25, 2008
What the heck is a "photo-painting" in this context?
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 1:47 PM on February 25, 2008
It's a stupidism.
"Photorealist painting," more like.
posted by Sys Rq at 1:52 PM on February 25, 2008
"Photorealist painting," more like.
posted by Sys Rq at 1:52 PM on February 25, 2008
If I had 5 mil I'd be more interested in collecting their stolen gear.
posted by anazgnos at 1:55 PM on February 25, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by anazgnos at 1:55 PM on February 25, 2008 [2 favorites]
Ian Curtis murderbot
In the arenas he kills for a prize
Wins a minute to add to his life
But the sickness is drowned by cries for more
Pray to God, make it quick, watch him fall
BZZZT - CURTISBOT - WILL - TEAR - YOU - APART - BEEP - AGAIN - BZZZT
posted by DecemberBoy at 2:01 PM on February 25, 2008 [8 favorites]
In the arenas he kills for a prize
Wins a minute to add to his life
But the sickness is drowned by cries for more
Pray to God, make it quick, watch him fall
BZZZT - CURTISBOT - WILL - TEAR - YOU - APART - BEEP - AGAIN - BZZZT
posted by DecemberBoy at 2:01 PM on February 25, 2008 [8 favorites]
Is this the band that they talked about on Juno? Wow i really should pick up some of their records
posted by dydecker at 2:17 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by dydecker at 2:17 PM on February 25, 2008
Why is it worth 5 million dollars?
Because Gerhard Richter is probably the most collectable living artist. His stuff is incredibly hot right now, and showing no signs of cooling. There's nothing unusual about a Richter going for >$5m. The SY angle is more a curiosity than anything.
posted by mr_roboto at 2:19 PM on February 25, 2008
Because Gerhard Richter is probably the most collectable living artist. His stuff is incredibly hot right now, and showing no signs of cooling. There's nothing unusual about a Richter going for >$5m. The SY angle is more a curiosity than anything.
posted by mr_roboto at 2:19 PM on February 25, 2008
The painting that illustrated one of the most famous album covers in pop history is to be sold at auction. Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation scarcely troubled the charts when it was released in 1988 but has since been recognised as a rock masterpiece, regularly featuring in best album lists.
This is all lies. This album cover is not one of the most famous in pop history. Daydream Nation has never troubled the charts. It was hailed as a "masterpiece" by "critics" as soon as it was released. Please stop trying to rewrite history
posted by dydecker at 2:24 PM on February 25, 2008
This is all lies. This album cover is not one of the most famous in pop history. Daydream Nation has never troubled the charts. It was hailed as a "masterpiece" by "critics" as soon as it was released. Please stop trying to rewrite history
posted by dydecker at 2:24 PM on February 25, 2008
Bunnytricks: I will contribute $ to the Ian Curtis Killbot, but I have a few people on my list that it will need to visit right away.
posted by Razzle Bathbone at 2:31 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by Razzle Bathbone at 2:31 PM on February 25, 2008
I'd try to scrape up the five mil if SY would come and play "Candle" to me every night as a lullaby.
Nice idea! And Kim Gordon could always sleep over if she wanted.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:42 PM on February 25, 2008
Nice idea! And Kim Gordon could always sleep over if she wanted.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:42 PM on February 25, 2008
(although she'd probably be all like "i don't wanna...i don't think so...")
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:44 PM on February 25, 2008 [7 favorites]
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:44 PM on February 25, 2008 [7 favorites]
I have some tasks for the Ian Curtis Killbot, too. Send him my way when you're all done with him, would you?
posted by bitter-girl.com at 3:01 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by bitter-girl.com at 3:01 PM on February 25, 2008
Do you have 5 million dollars, burning a hole in your pocket?
(Or do you consider this painting to be total trash?)
posted by Flashman at 3:16 PM on February 25, 2008
(Or do you consider this painting to be total trash?)
posted by Flashman at 3:16 PM on February 25, 2008
Patrick Nagel fan? Got a spare 5 bucks? Then you can be the proud owner of Duran Duran's 'Rio' LP.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
posted by Smart Dalek at 3:26 PM on February 25, 2008
Sorry, couldn't resist.
posted by Smart Dalek at 3:26 PM on February 25, 2008
If I had 5 mil I'd be more interested in collecting their stolen gear.
I can't imagine that the pawnshop that gear went to paid more than $75.00 for it.
"I'll give you ten bucks for the out of tune Japanese telecaster copy with the broken drumstick shoved between the nut and the strings, and another five for the snare drum filled with balled-up aluminum foil."
Daydream Nation: Great album or greatest album? Discuss...
posted by Cookiebastard at 3:34 PM on February 25, 2008
I can't imagine that the pawnshop that gear went to paid more than $75.00 for it.
"I'll give you ten bucks for the out of tune Japanese telecaster copy with the broken drumstick shoved between the nut and the strings, and another five for the snare drum filled with balled-up aluminum foil."
Daydream Nation: Great album or greatest album? Discuss...
posted by Cookiebastard at 3:34 PM on February 25, 2008
The piece itself (under the Kerze link) looks so much better than what appeared on the album jacket. On the jacket, they sliced off too much of that line that runs across the bottom of the painting, ruining the balance of the composition. Probably had to do that, of course, for the bleed that the printer needs. Anyway, now that I see the uncropped original, I must say I think it's a really fine painting, whereas I never really cared for that jacket. Balance is restored!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 3:41 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by flapjax at midnite at 3:41 PM on February 25, 2008
Daydream Nation: Great album or greatest album? Discuss...
Gaaa! And I just passed up the opportunity of seeing them play the entire album, beginning to end, live.
posted by UbuRoivas at 4:20 PM on February 25, 2008
Gaaa! And I just passed up the opportunity of seeing them play the entire album, beginning to end, live.
posted by UbuRoivas at 4:20 PM on February 25, 2008
Bunnytricks: I will contribute $ to the Ian Curtis Killbot, but I have a few people on my list that it will need to visit right away.
I hope the first people on the list are the members of Interpol.
BZZZT - CURTISBOT - DOES - NOT - APPRECIATE - BEING - COPIED - BY - BEEP - GREASY - HIPSTERS - BZZZT
posted by DecemberBoy at 4:35 PM on February 25, 2008 [2 favorites]
I hope the first people on the list are the members of Interpol.
BZZZT - CURTISBOT - DOES - NOT - APPRECIATE - BEING - COPIED - BY - BEEP - GREASY - HIPSTERS - BZZZT
posted by DecemberBoy at 4:35 PM on February 25, 2008 [2 favorites]
That whole series of paintings is just beautiful. I never realized they were such BIG canvases.
posted by BoringPostcards at 4:37 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by BoringPostcards at 4:37 PM on February 25, 2008
DecemberBoy: you read my mind
posted by Razzle Bathbone at 4:59 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by Razzle Bathbone at 4:59 PM on February 25, 2008
I saw the painting in person at the Yale museum a few years ago.
Just down the street a few blocks, incidentally, from Richter's.
posted by ZenMasterThis at 4:59 PM on February 25, 2008
Just down the street a few blocks, incidentally, from Richter's.
posted by ZenMasterThis at 4:59 PM on February 25, 2008
I wouldn't mind getting one of those Curtisbots, except it would be prone to spontaneous short-circuiting from time to time, and would eventually self-destruct.
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:00 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:00 PM on February 25, 2008
Whoops. I confused Gerhard Richter with Hans Richter. Both artists, though.
posted by Rashomon at 5:33 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by Rashomon at 5:33 PM on February 25, 2008
I would send my prototype Curtisbot after any number of derivative Brooklyn based acts but, fuck me if I didn't lose the remote control again.
posted by bunnytricks at 6:13 PM on February 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by bunnytricks at 6:13 PM on February 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
"That whole series of paintings is just beautiful. I never realized they were such BIG canvases."
And that's the problem with this thread -- you have to be BOTH a music nerd AND an art nerd in the late '80's to appreciate the painting and the album at the same time. All 60 of us just turned 40.
posted by vhsiv at 6:19 PM on February 25, 2008
And that's the problem with this thread -- you have to be BOTH a music nerd AND an art nerd in the late '80's to appreciate the painting and the album at the same time. All 60 of us just turned 40.
posted by vhsiv at 6:19 PM on February 25, 2008
I want two!
More seriously, Richter and SY captured a completely dark and rich aesthetic at the time. Few visual or sonic artists have been able to do so since then, imho.
posted by boardman at 6:42 PM on February 25, 2008
More seriously, Richter and SY captured a completely dark and rich aesthetic at the time. Few visual or sonic artists have been able to do so since then, imho.
posted by boardman at 6:42 PM on February 25, 2008
Save your money for when the original album artwork for Load comes on the market.
Yeah, but Sonic Youth fans usually adore Daydream Nation. I thought most of the original hardcore Metallica fans view Load as when they sold out/jumped the shark. Then again, Lars Ulrich started collecting Jean-Michel Basquiat before it was cool.
posted by jonp72 at 6:45 PM on February 25, 2008
Yeah, but Sonic Youth fans usually adore Daydream Nation. I thought most of the original hardcore Metallica fans view Load as when they sold out/jumped the shark. Then again, Lars Ulrich started collecting Jean-Michel Basquiat before it was cool.
posted by jonp72 at 6:45 PM on February 25, 2008
If you think that that painting will sell for $5 million US, you are crazy. It will easily be double that.
posted by R. Mutt at 7:16 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by R. Mutt at 7:16 PM on February 25, 2008
Hey, R. Mutt: got any urinals you want to sell?
How about snow shovels?
posted by ZenMasterThis at 7:34 PM on February 25, 2008
How about snow shovels?
posted by ZenMasterThis at 7:34 PM on February 25, 2008
Not at the moment, but I do have Richter's 3 book set Catalogue Raisonne, 1962-1993 .... yours for $2,400.00 cash...
posted by R. Mutt at 7:46 PM on February 25, 2008
posted by R. Mutt at 7:46 PM on February 25, 2008
Dooood, I'd pay, like twenty million for the cover of Bat Out Of Hell, dude. That thing is so fuckin' rad, it's got this dude bustin' up outta the ground on a fuckin' big ass bike, dude. Wicked. I mean, that's like, art, dude. A fuckin' candle? Five million? Oh, yeah, right.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:42 PM on February 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:42 PM on February 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
It's a painting of a picture of a candle.
posted by cell divide at 4:59 PM on February 26, 2008
posted by cell divide at 4:59 PM on February 26, 2008
Daydream Nation was actually the only Sonic Youth album I ever really got into. Right time, right music, for me. But I didn't like it all that much.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 12:04 AM on February 27, 2008
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 12:04 AM on February 27, 2008
Lot detail for Kerze painting [requires log in on Sothebys.com->Bugmenot]
posted by psmealey at 7:47 AM on February 27, 2008
posted by psmealey at 7:47 AM on February 27, 2008
Yeah, that is really not that surprising in today's art market.
posted by R. Mutt at 12:43 PM on February 27, 2008
posted by R. Mutt at 12:43 PM on February 27, 2008
$5 million. For that crappy cover (that I thought till now was a mediocre photograph, not a bad painting). Of that acceptable but not particularly interesting album.
bwahahahahahahah!
bwahahahahahahahah!!
sorry.
hahahahahahahahahah!
I never got Daydream Nation. What's the point? It's sort of bland music, pretending to be psychedelic.
Now this is psychedelic music!
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 9:51 PM on February 27, 2008
bwahahahahahahah!
bwahahahahahahahah!!
sorry.
hahahahahahahahahah!
I never got Daydream Nation. What's the point? It's sort of bland music, pretending to be psychedelic.
Now this is psychedelic music!
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 9:51 PM on February 27, 2008
Wow. You're right, lupus: You really don't get it. Congratulations.
posted by Sys Rq at 11:33 AM on February 28, 2008
posted by Sys Rq at 11:33 AM on February 28, 2008
$5 million. For that crappy cover (that I thought till now was a mediocre photograph, not a bad painting).
$16 million. And likely worth twice as much in 20 years. If it's not in a museum.
posted by mr_roboto at 12:09 PM on February 28, 2008
$16 million. And likely worth twice as much in 20 years. If it's not in a museum.
posted by mr_roboto at 12:09 PM on February 28, 2008
--> /ragefilter/
I can't believe that this painting is being described and commented on as "sonic youth cover art." I'm sorry, but that is complete bullshit. Sonic Youth knew what they were doing when they chose that work, and unfortunately for the uninformed-fan-boys/haters out there, Richter is a well respected, incredibly important and emulated artist whose reach will over-extend the Youth's.
/ragefilter/ <--
posted by degoao at 9:58 PM on February 28, 2008
I can't believe that this painting is being described and commented on as "sonic youth cover art." I'm sorry, but that is complete bullshit. Sonic Youth knew what they were doing when they chose that work, and unfortunately for the uninformed-fan-boys/haters out there, Richter is a well respected, incredibly important and emulated artist whose reach will over-extend the Youth's.
/ragefilter/ <--
posted by degoao at 9:58 PM on February 28, 2008
Richter is a well respected, incredibly important and emulated artist whose reach will over-extend the Youth's.
All due respect, but neither you nor anyone else can state with any certainty what artist's reach (however you choose to define this slippery term) will overextend another's. That's for the history books to decide, as they say.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:10 PM on February 28, 2008
All due respect, but neither you nor anyone else can state with any certainty what artist's reach (however you choose to define this slippery term) will overextend another's. That's for the history books to decide, as they say.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:10 PM on February 28, 2008
True, flapjax.
The RAGEFILTER meant to quell the immense anger at the ignorance of the "SONIC YOUTH ALBUM ART 4 SALLEEE!" posts.
posted by degoao at 10:21 PM on February 28, 2008
The RAGEFILTER meant to quell the immense anger at the ignorance of the "SONIC YOUTH ALBUM ART 4 SALLEEE!" posts.
posted by degoao at 10:21 PM on February 28, 2008
Heard.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:22 PM on February 28, 2008
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:22 PM on February 28, 2008
mr_roboto linked to Gerhard Richter's painting "Betty" - which I saw at the Gerhard Richter show at SFMOMA. It is an amazing painting - it is of his daughter looking over her shoulder at one of Gerhard's abstract paintings.
I also got the chance to see Sonic Youth perform Daydream Nation track for track in concert in Berkeley recently. The album still sounded great twenty years later.
posted by javelina at 11:01 PM on March 7, 2008
I also got the chance to see Sonic Youth perform Daydream Nation track for track in concert in Berkeley recently. The album still sounded great twenty years later.
posted by javelina at 11:01 PM on March 7, 2008
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