Linguistics Humor in The Simpsons
March 17, 2008 11:06 AM Subscribe
"cliticization"
O RLY?
And yes, Wendell, the article is ripe with typo's and erata.
posted by Eideteker at 11:32 AM on March 17, 2008
O RLY?
And yes, Wendell, the article is ripe with typo's and erata.
posted by Eideteker at 11:32 AM on March 17, 2008
Congrats on being the first your disgust on the internet regarding this list, wendell.
posted by dios at 11:42 AM on March 17, 2008
posted by dios at 11:42 AM on March 17, 2008
Wow. I fail.
Congrats on being the first to register your disgust on the internet regarding this list, wendell.
posted by dios at 11:43 AM on March 17, 2008
Congrats on being the first to register your disgust on the internet regarding this list, wendell.
posted by dios at 11:43 AM on March 17, 2008
Category: Hilariously missing infinitive.
Dios is being snarky in a Metafilter thread.
Dios: Congrats on being the first your disgust on the internet regarding this list, wendell.
posted by rusty at 12:02 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Dios is being snarky in a Metafilter thread.
Dios: Congrats on being the first your disgust on the internet regarding this list, wendell.
posted by rusty at 12:02 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
I wouldn't call it "disgust", registered or unregistered. I think of it more as being the first to shout out a Nelson Muntz-ish "HA HA." (Which by its very nature, the list is just begging for)
posted by wendell at 12:10 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by wendell at 12:10 PM on March 17, 2008
wendell: I think you mean "The following 'haha' is not from amusement but is an expression of contempt. Ha ha!"
posted by danb at 12:11 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by danb at 12:11 PM on March 17, 2008
And here I thought that it would be impossible to suck all the fun out of the Simpsons with a simple blog entry.
Sometimes, I am very, very wrong.
posted by MrVisible at 12:13 PM on March 17, 2008
Sometimes, I am very, very wrong.
posted by MrVisible at 12:13 PM on March 17, 2008
This soap bubble has been dissected.
posted by echo target at 12:18 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by echo target at 12:18 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
I'm a bit confused as to the purpose of "[ˈtɹɪkɚˈtɹijt]" in the article. I know what it represents, but why render it as if it were the pronunciation guide from Webster's Dictionary?
posted by caution live frogs at 12:25 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by caution live frogs at 12:25 PM on March 17, 2008
Psychiatrist: Metafilter was a peaceful site, sickly and weak from a congenital heart defect.
[He shows a picture of MF going to its prom in bed. The jury goes "Awwww!"] But then those users started tormenting it, and it crossed over into dementia!
Metafilter (defending himself): To what degree was this dementia blown?
Psychiatrist: Full! [Jury gasps.]
posted by blue_beetle at 12:27 PM on March 17, 2008
[He shows a picture of MF going to its prom in bed. The jury goes "Awwww!"] But then those users started tormenting it, and it crossed over into dementia!
Metafilter (defending himself): To what degree was this dementia blown?
Psychiatrist: Full! [Jury gasps.]
posted by blue_beetle at 12:27 PM on March 17, 2008
"Linguo. . .dead??"
posted by brassafrax at 12:49 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by brassafrax at 12:49 PM on March 17, 2008
why render it as if it were the pronunciation guide from Webster's Dictionary?
I think she's emphasizing that the characters in question were saying the phrase as one combined word, like 'whassup' or something.
posted by graventy at 1:04 PM on March 17, 2008
I think she's emphasizing that the characters in question were saying the phrase as one combined word, like 'whassup' or something.
posted by graventy at 1:04 PM on March 17, 2008
"cliticization"
O RLY?
Upon googling, there is such a thing. Clitics are things like "'n" in "Gulp'N Blow." I think. I'm not sure the Simpsonian webpage uses it correctly.
I'm sad that cliticization has nothing to do with mad scientists bent on ruling the world through the liberal application of female pleasure.
Presumably being cliticized would be like being shot with a Niven-esque tasp.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 1:10 PM on March 17, 2008
O RLY?
Upon googling, there is such a thing. Clitics are things like "'n" in "Gulp'N Blow." I think. I'm not sure the Simpsonian webpage uses it correctly.
I'm sad that cliticization has nothing to do with mad scientists bent on ruling the world through the liberal application of female pleasure.
Presumably being cliticized would be like being shot with a Niven-esque tasp.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 1:10 PM on March 17, 2008
Category: Zero-derivation, category change
Skinner: Okay, you have a deal, you conniving little [whispers in Bart's ear].
Bart (eyes go wide): Wow! That's a swear?
Skinner: Used as a noun, it is.
Little help?
posted by Richard Daly at 1:17 PM on March 17, 2008
Skinner: Okay, you have a deal, you conniving little [whispers in Bart's ear].
Bart (eyes go wide): Wow! That's a swear?
Skinner: Used as a noun, it is.
Little help?
posted by Richard Daly at 1:17 PM on March 17, 2008
I'm not sure the Simpsonian webpage uses it correctly.
Since Heidi Harley is an actual linguist, yeah, she uses it correctly.
*having seen results, reminds self not to make linguistics-related posts about pop culture*
posted by languagehat at 1:20 PM on March 17, 2008
Since Heidi Harley is an actual linguist, yeah, she uses it correctly.
*having seen results, reminds self not to make linguistics-related posts about pop culture*
posted by languagehat at 1:20 PM on March 17, 2008
So a cartoon linguist would have broad powers of misuse? I reject your illicit appeal to authority!
posted by abulafa at 1:31 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by abulafa at 1:31 PM on March 17, 2008
Linguistics: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
posted by Mister_A at 1:34 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by Mister_A at 1:34 PM on March 17, 2008
Well, I was saying Boo-urns. I found this very funny - thanks.
posted by Flashman at 1:56 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by Flashman at 1:56 PM on March 17, 2008
Apparently, dios is recursively disgusted.
Where did I read that if you have to explain a joke, it loses all humor?
posted by Dave Faris at 1:58 PM on March 17, 2008
Where did I read that if you have to explain a joke, it loses all humor?
posted by Dave Faris at 1:58 PM on March 17, 2008
You know what I blame this on the breakdown of?
posted by gompa at 2:00 PM on March 17, 2008 [3 favorites]
posted by gompa at 2:00 PM on March 17, 2008 [3 favorites]
Since Heidi Harley is an actual linguist, yeah, she uses it correctly.
You know, instead of just implying I'm a moron, you maybe could have said "No, the 's in Arby's counts as a clitic" if that's what the cliticization is, or otherwise explained just what was being cliticized.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 2:02 PM on March 17, 2008
You know, instead of just implying I'm a moron, you maybe could have said "No, the 's in Arby's counts as a clitic" if that's what the cliticization is, or otherwise explained just what was being cliticized.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 2:02 PM on March 17, 2008
ROU, I'm pretty sure the "you" is the clitic:
If I can keep down Arby's, I can keep down you!
In standard English syntax you'd expect "I can keep you down" not *"I can keep down you". cf. Spanish "hacerlo" to do it, where "-lo" is considered a clitic.
Is this right? Help me out here, Languagehat!
posted by Bizurke at 2:32 PM on March 17, 2008
If I can keep down Arby's, I can keep down you!
In standard English syntax you'd expect "I can keep you down" not *"I can keep down you". cf. Spanish "hacerlo" to do it, where "-lo" is considered a clitic.
Is this right? Help me out here, Languagehat!
posted by Bizurke at 2:32 PM on March 17, 2008
Since Heidi Harley is an actual linguist, yeah, she uses it correctly.
But from a descriptivist standpoint, would it actually be possible for her to be using it incorrectly?
posted by Navelgazer at 2:45 PM on March 17, 2008
But from a descriptivist standpoint, would it actually be possible for her to be using it incorrectly?
posted by Navelgazer at 2:45 PM on March 17, 2008
Dave Faris: Where did I read that if you have to explain a joke, it loses all humor?
I believe it's attributed to Johnny Carson.
posted by JHarris at 2:49 PM on March 17, 2008
I believe it's attributed to Johnny Carson.
posted by JHarris at 2:49 PM on March 17, 2008
Everyone's a clitic.
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 2:52 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 2:52 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
I disagree with their contention that there is "humor" in Simpsons episodes from 2007.
posted by drjimmy11 at 2:53 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by drjimmy11 at 2:53 PM on March 17, 2008
Is this right? Help me out here, Languagehat!
Yeah, I took it the same way as Bizurke, but of course you'd have to ask HH to be sure. Sorry if I came across as implying you were a moron, ROU_Xenophobe, but your reference to "the Simpsonian webpage" seemed pretty dismissive, so I may have been more curt than I should have been.
posted by languagehat at 2:54 PM on March 17, 2008
Yeah, I took it the same way as Bizurke, but of course you'd have to ask HH to be sure. Sorry if I came across as implying you were a moron, ROU_Xenophobe, but your reference to "the Simpsonian webpage" seemed pretty dismissive, so I may have been more curt than I should have been.
posted by languagehat at 2:54 PM on March 17, 2008
You know what I blame this on the breakdown of?
The writing crew of The Simpsons?
posted by Ufez Jones at 3:15 PM on March 17, 2008
The writing crew of The Simpsons?
posted by Ufez Jones at 3:15 PM on March 17, 2008
I may have been more curt than I should have been.
I just experienced the funniest keming error ever.
posted by rokusan at 3:28 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
I just experienced the funniest keming error ever.
posted by rokusan at 3:28 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
I'm not half the nerd I'd need to be to LOL at this. (This may be bad for me, not for her.)
posted by oddman at 5:03 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by oddman at 5:03 PM on March 17, 2008
And here I thought that it would be impossible to suck all the fun out of the Simpsons with a simple blog entry.
You must have missed the "That's where I'm a Viking!" thread from a while back. (shudder)
posted by First Post at 5:07 PM on March 17, 2008
You must have missed the "That's where I'm a Viking!" thread from a while back. (shudder)
posted by First Post at 5:07 PM on March 17, 2008
your reference to "the Simpsonian webpage" seemed pretty dismissive
It was meant merely to be cromulent.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 5:22 PM on March 17, 2008
It was meant merely to be cromulent.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 5:22 PM on March 17, 2008
OAM NOAM NOAM NOAM
posted by louche mustachio at 4:50 AM on March 18, 2008
posted by louche mustachio at 4:50 AM on March 18, 2008
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