Michael Pollan or Michel Foucalt?
June 6, 2009 9:52 AM Subscribe
Pollan > Foucault.
Postmodernists are fail.
posted by kldickson at 9:55 AM on June 6, 2009 [3 favorites]
Postmodernists are fail.
posted by kldickson at 9:55 AM on June 6, 2009 [3 favorites]
This post is madness. Someone needs too be disciplined and punished.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 9:57 AM on June 6, 2009 [13 favorites]
posted by Foci for Analysis at 9:57 AM on June 6, 2009 [13 favorites]
Don't worry, Foci, I'm sure the moderators see it from their central tower.
posted by condour75 at 9:58 AM on June 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
posted by condour75 at 9:58 AM on June 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
Post mentions Foucault, lame dismissals of "postmodernism" follow. It's just the order of things, I guess.
posted by nasreddin at 10:08 AM on June 6, 2009 [15 favorites]
posted by nasreddin at 10:08 AM on June 6, 2009 [15 favorites]
Postmodernists are fail.
dare i say it, but this construction depends upon the post-modernist's interest in low-culture and it's discontents...
postmodernist win!
posted by geos at 10:12 AM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
dare i say it, but this construction depends upon the post-modernist's interest in low-culture and it's discontents...
postmodernist win!
posted by geos at 10:12 AM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
Léon Foucault or Leon Spinks?
posted by ActingTheGoat at 10:21 AM on June 6, 2009
posted by ActingTheGoat at 10:21 AM on June 6, 2009
Could there be a post comparing photos that I would care less about?
posted by oddman at 10:25 AM on June 6, 2009
posted by oddman at 10:25 AM on June 6, 2009
Could there be a post comparing photos that I would care less about?
Betty Friedan or Helen Thomas?
posted by felix betachat at 10:27 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Betty Friedan or Helen Thomas?
posted by felix betachat at 10:27 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
I think much of the current antipomo surge comes from the fact that we sat on our asses and wrote long impenetrable screeds, but we were still pretty much right about what happened in the US, while all of the manly post-Nozick types totally fucked it up.
posted by mobunited at 10:32 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by mobunited at 10:32 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Pretty much right? I thought you were more interested in being unfalsifiable.
posted by 7segment at 10:39 AM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by 7segment at 10:39 AM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
Solved it. The turtleneck always gives Foucault away.
posted by sleevener at 10:46 AM on June 6, 2009
posted by sleevener at 10:46 AM on June 6, 2009
We were too out of it, playing games in our rarefied intellectual spheres, to vote for the same asshole twice because of a utilitarian benefits of a tax cut.
posted by mobunited at 10:49 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by mobunited at 10:49 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Could there be a post comparing photos that I would care less about?
Could there be a way to not comment on a post I don't care about?
posted by ORthey at 10:49 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Could there be a way to not comment on a post I don't care about?
posted by ORthey at 10:49 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Wait. Foucault was postmodern? In what way, exactly? And for what definition of postmodern?
posted by Monday, stony Monday at 10:50 AM on June 6, 2009 [5 favorites]
posted by Monday, stony Monday at 10:50 AM on June 6, 2009 [5 favorites]
>: What if I desire punishment?
What did the sadist do to the masochist?
She made him take a hot shower.
posted by dunkadunc at 10:54 AM on June 6, 2009
What did the sadist do to the masochist?
She made him take a hot shower.
posted by dunkadunc at 10:54 AM on June 6, 2009
What's the worst thing the sadist said to the masochist?
No.
posted by The Whelk at 10:56 AM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
No.
posted by The Whelk at 10:56 AM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
Sebastian Cabot or Al Hirt?
Paul Prudhomme or Dom Deluise?
Mick Jagger or Don Knotts?
posted by ericb at 11:07 AM on June 6, 2009
Paul Prudhomme or Dom Deluise?
Mick Jagger or Don Knotts?
posted by ericb at 11:07 AM on June 6, 2009
Foucault > Foucalt.
posted by lumensimus at 11:08 AM on June 6, 2009 [3 favorites]
posted by lumensimus at 11:08 AM on June 6, 2009 [3 favorites]
No idea who they are but the glasses give it away every time. Pollan's are the trendy narrow type. Also Foucalt's chin dimple is a dead give away in many photos.
posted by podwarrior at 11:10 AM on June 6, 2009
posted by podwarrior at 11:10 AM on June 6, 2009
Trick question. All of them are Uncle Fester.
posted by Coobeastie at 11:14 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by Coobeastie at 11:14 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
I think much of the current antipomo surge comes from the fact that we sat on our asses and wrote long impenetrable screeds, but we were still pretty much right about what happened in the US
Nostradamus, Too
posted by grobstein at 11:15 AM on June 6, 2009
Nostradamus, Too
posted by grobstein at 11:15 AM on June 6, 2009
Michael Pollan or Michel Foucalt?
I'm going with neither.
posted by msalt at 11:35 AM on June 6, 2009
I'm going with neither.
posted by msalt at 11:35 AM on June 6, 2009
Google Image Search: separated at birth.
posted by twoleftfeet at 11:45 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by twoleftfeet at 11:45 AM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Tangentially: In grad school, I did an interpretive reading of Michel Foucault in the character of him pretty much on his deathbed. Project guidelines meant that I also needed to don baldcap and affected pseudo-French accent that resulted in me seeming a sort of Benjamin Button-esque bald drag king. Looking back, it had to have been awful despite the good grade it got.
posted by sadiehawkinstein at 12:30 PM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by sadiehawkinstein at 12:30 PM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
focaccia > polenta
posted by fleetmouse at 12:34 PM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by fleetmouse at 12:34 PM on June 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
Well they do look similar but most of the picture pairs have some kind of anachronism that gives away the date they were taken:
7) Pollan is wearing a "vote with your fork" shirt.
6) Pollan (i'm assuming) is at the World Economic forum in Davos, in front of a screen with their logo (Wikipedia says that confrence has been around for a while, but how long have that they had that log? and how long have people been standing in front of repeating-logo screens? seems like a pretty recent trend)
5) Pollan is wearing a modern, wireless mic. And Foucalt's picture is pretty retro (IMO)
4) Pollan is holding a carrot. The Foucalt picture is pretty timeless, but there's a pretty high contrast on the image. Someone could have done that in photoshop today, though.
3) This one is tough, but Foucalt is holding a pretty retro looking mic.
2) This one is really difficult, but the one who I think is Foucalt is wear the same glasses as in number 9, and he's got a tweed jacket, plus it's a high contrast image.
1) One is tough but the letters behind pollan look modern.
Also 9 and 10 use the publicity shot from the back of one of Pollan's books, which I recognized. 8 didn't really have anything to give away the time it was taken for sure (although there is something that looks kind of like the Cingular logo in the background) , but Pollan looks a lot like he does in the publicity shot, plus the glasses.
posted by delmoi at 1:13 PM on June 6, 2009
7) Pollan is wearing a "vote with your fork" shirt.
6) Pollan (i'm assuming) is at the World Economic forum in Davos, in front of a screen with their logo (Wikipedia says that confrence has been around for a while, but how long have that they had that log? and how long have people been standing in front of repeating-logo screens? seems like a pretty recent trend)
5) Pollan is wearing a modern, wireless mic. And Foucalt's picture is pretty retro (IMO)
4) Pollan is holding a carrot. The Foucalt picture is pretty timeless, but there's a pretty high contrast on the image. Someone could have done that in photoshop today, though.
3) This one is tough, but Foucalt is holding a pretty retro looking mic.
2) This one is really difficult, but the one who I think is Foucalt is wear the same glasses as in number 9, and he's got a tweed jacket, plus it's a high contrast image.
1) One is tough but the letters behind pollan look modern.
Also 9 and 10 use the publicity shot from the back of one of Pollan's books, which I recognized. 8 didn't really have anything to give away the time it was taken for sure (although there is something that looks kind of like the Cingular logo in the background) , but Pollan looks a lot like he does in the publicity shot, plus the glasses.
posted by delmoi at 1:13 PM on June 6, 2009
I hardly think this is the game that's sweeping the nation! Only Numberwang has done that.
posted by paddbear at 1:37 PM on June 6, 2009
posted by paddbear at 1:37 PM on June 6, 2009
They both look like James Carville to me!
Nah, Carville looks way more like Jocelyn Wildensteen.
posted by blasdelf at 2:03 PM on June 6, 2009
Nah, Carville looks way more like Jocelyn Wildensteen.
posted by blasdelf at 2:03 PM on June 6, 2009
No other human being looks like Jocelyn Wildenstein. More like Simba.
posted by ericb at 2:15 PM on June 6, 2009
posted by ericb at 2:15 PM on June 6, 2009
Both. I need a panopticon-shaped beehive in the middle of my vegetable garden.
posted by MonkeyToes at 2:17 PM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by MonkeyToes at 2:17 PM on June 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Thank heavens it's NOT Foucault holding the carrot ...
posted by wittgenstein at 2:31 PM on June 6, 2009
posted by wittgenstein at 2:31 PM on June 6, 2009
Solved it. The turtleneck always gives Foucault away.
Um....I always thought it was looking like Uncle Fester from the Addams Family that always gives Foucault away.
posted by mrmojoflying at 3:08 PM on June 6, 2009
Um....I always thought it was looking like Uncle Fester from the Addams Family that always gives Foucault away.
posted by mrmojoflying at 3:08 PM on June 6, 2009
Michael Pollan or Michel Foucalt?
Who is...
The Deadliest Warrior?
posted by fuq at 3:47 PM on June 6, 2009
Who is...
The Deadliest Warrior?
posted by fuq at 3:47 PM on June 6, 2009
As a bald man with glasses, let me just say that both are very handsome fellows.
posted by smrtsch at 5:02 PM on June 6, 2009
posted by smrtsch at 5:02 PM on June 6, 2009
this was a giggle. thank you.
(jazz hands = Michael Pollan ... dead giveaway - Foucault's got more a Hamlet thing going in the gesture department)
posted by jammy at 8:30 PM on June 6, 2009
(jazz hands = Michael Pollan ... dead giveaway - Foucault's got more a Hamlet thing going in the gesture department)
posted by jammy at 8:30 PM on June 6, 2009
Wait. Foucault was postmodern? In what way, exactly? And for what definition of postmodern?
German: Bossy, humourless, violent; "Bosch"
Italian: Incompetent, impolite, louche; "Wop"
Irish: Shiftless, stubborn, ignorant; "Mick"
French: Pretentious, abstruse, vain; "Postmodernist"
posted by stammer at 2:04 AM on June 7, 2009 [1 favorite]
German: Bossy, humourless, violent; "Bosch"
Italian: Incompetent, impolite, louche; "Wop"
Irish: Shiftless, stubborn, ignorant; "Mick"
French: Pretentious, abstruse, vain; "Postmodernist"
posted by stammer at 2:04 AM on June 7, 2009 [1 favorite]
Pollan has more hair.
And better ideas regarding agricultural policy.
posted by jb at 10:26 AM on June 7, 2009
And better ideas regarding agricultural policy.
posted by jb at 10:26 AM on June 7, 2009
I think you all are missing the point.
On June 25th, 1984, Michel Foucault was guided secretly from the flat in Paris where his death was staged, as his new level of enlightenment allowed him to transcend both the AIDS virus and the effects of natural aging. Disillusioned with the methods of activism he had engaged in thus far and disgusted with the young radicals who cited him as an influence, Foucault disappeared into the underground. He immediately boarded a ship sailing to America (an anachronism even then), where nine years earlier an experience with LSD had set him on the path to enlightenment. Changing his last name numerous times, Michel made his way through countless US cities, immersing himself in the language and the culture, striving to identify the roots and sources of the cancer in the American culture that was slowly spreading and threatening all life on this planet.
Writing occasionally to pay for food, Michel decided it was best to take on a more permanent pseudonym in order to build a broad audience for the knowledge he had accumulated. And indeed, in a series of major books, "Michael Pollan" laid out the base causes of America's disease in popular language, written persuasively to bring the masses of American's slowly to a new way of living.
Admittedly, this method was a long shot, but the even longer shot - revealing his immortality and claiming inhuman knowledge to win people to his cause, seemed even less likely in this age of atheism and internets. Instead, he contented himself to make a rational case, and wait for the day when humanity found him out, and listened of their own accord. Indeed, the pseudonym was a bit of a joke, changing just one letter of his first name, and making the last name just a mis-spelled botanical term (what is a writer but a pollinator of minds?). And the photos of his previous life were still out there, available for all to see. It was just a matter of time until someone put the pieces together.
He never expected, though, that it would happen on Blogspot.
posted by kaibutsu at 10:58 AM on June 7, 2009 [3 favorites]
On June 25th, 1984, Michel Foucault was guided secretly from the flat in Paris where his death was staged, as his new level of enlightenment allowed him to transcend both the AIDS virus and the effects of natural aging. Disillusioned with the methods of activism he had engaged in thus far and disgusted with the young radicals who cited him as an influence, Foucault disappeared into the underground. He immediately boarded a ship sailing to America (an anachronism even then), where nine years earlier an experience with LSD had set him on the path to enlightenment. Changing his last name numerous times, Michel made his way through countless US cities, immersing himself in the language and the culture, striving to identify the roots and sources of the cancer in the American culture that was slowly spreading and threatening all life on this planet.
Writing occasionally to pay for food, Michel decided it was best to take on a more permanent pseudonym in order to build a broad audience for the knowledge he had accumulated. And indeed, in a series of major books, "Michael Pollan" laid out the base causes of America's disease in popular language, written persuasively to bring the masses of American's slowly to a new way of living.
Admittedly, this method was a long shot, but the even longer shot - revealing his immortality and claiming inhuman knowledge to win people to his cause, seemed even less likely in this age of atheism and internets. Instead, he contented himself to make a rational case, and wait for the day when humanity found him out, and listened of their own accord. Indeed, the pseudonym was a bit of a joke, changing just one letter of his first name, and making the last name just a mis-spelled botanical term (what is a writer but a pollinator of minds?). And the photos of his previous life were still out there, available for all to see. It was just a matter of time until someone put the pieces together.
He never expected, though, that it would happen on Blogspot.
posted by kaibutsu at 10:58 AM on June 7, 2009 [3 favorites]
I have just invented Mostpodernism. It has nothing to do with iPods. NOTHING.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:38 PM on June 7, 2009
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:38 PM on June 7, 2009
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