I didn't like it!
October 30, 2009 3:54 PM   Subscribe

Katy Perry's song was pretty controversial when it was released last year. Kunt and the Gang explore the opposite side of the equation. (Caution: Definitely NSFW or the easily offended. Obscene lyrics, simulated bukkake, all manner of nasty stuff.)
posted by PeterMcDermott (64 comments total) 3 users marked this as a favorite


 
Um, actually, the "opposite side" would be Katy Perry kissing a boy and not liking it. Or did Katy Perry sing another song about performing cunnilingus and not liking it?

Asking for a straight boy to sing "I kissed a boy and I liked it" is probably too much to hope for in this century, but that might be "opposite" as well. A song about a straight guy being forced to do something as DISGUSTING as to fellate another man is just more homophobia.
posted by ethnomethodologist at 4:09 PM on October 30, 2009 [10 favorites]


I kissed a boy once, but I didn't really like it. I gave it a good shot though- I even used tongue.
posted by keep_evolving at 4:15 PM on October 30, 2009


Brian Safi of Current TV's Infomania weighs in on the media's use of lesbian kissing as a cheap ploy to get ratings. I think that makes the controversy all the more ironic, as the social conservatives aren't even freaking out over real progress on homosexuality. It reestablishes homosexuals as the "other," and the women who do make out almost always remain heterosexual.
posted by mccarty.tim at 4:18 PM on October 30, 2009 [5 favorites]


OH NO FELLATIO

It's not just homophobia, it's boring homophobia.
posted by regicide is good for you at 4:22 PM on October 30, 2009 [3 favorites]


Paying a forfeit when you lose a bet hardly equals being forced. And as he says in the song,

"Us blokes we don't do things by half,
And on site we like to have a laugh,
And sometimes someone gets sucked off,
And someone films it on their mobile phone,
Ain't no big deal but don't tell the wife,
She might take it out of context."

Homophobic, you say? I'm not seeing it myself.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 4:25 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


I didn't like it. He looks like he's impersonating Super Hans from Peep Show.
posted by permafrost at 4:26 PM on October 30, 2009 [2 favorites]


I kissed a girl once at a New Years party. She tasted like cocktail onions and vermouth.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:26 PM on October 30, 2009


She tasted like cocktail onions and vermouth.

The Mad Men thread is down the hall and to the left.
posted by GuyZero at 4:29 PM on October 30, 2009 [16 favorites]


Is this the Pansy Division thread? No? It should be.
posted by rusty at 4:30 PM on October 30, 2009 [3 favorites]


I've kissed a few girls.
Of course, I'm a straight guy, so it's not really top-10 pop song material.
posted by signal at 4:31 PM on October 30, 2009


I prefer Kazwell's All Over Your Face if we're gonna talk about bukkake.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 4:34 PM on October 30, 2009


I believe the opposite of Katy Perry's song would be Cobra Starship's cover of said song. He kisses the boy- AND he likes it.
posted by headspace at 4:35 PM on October 30, 2009 [5 favorites]


Is it just me, or does it seem like "I Kissed A Girl" just came out every year.
posted by DU at 4:36 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


Fail on every level
posted by fire&wings at 4:40 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


The Guardian ran a feature the other day on the resurgence of musical comedy, prompted by the success of acts like Flight of Conchords, Tim Minchin, Rich Hall and Bill Bailey. Somewhat predictably, all the qualities that make those acts - technical ability, appreciation of the genre they're spoofing and having songs that would be good even without the funny lyrics - are sort of lacking from Kunt and the Gang.

Sorry to go on. He just really annoys me.
posted by permafrost at 4:41 PM on October 30, 2009


Nothing's funnier than parodies of things that were popular a year ago.

What do they have on the Macarena?
posted by Epenthesis at 4:47 PM on October 30, 2009


Well, there's always Scotland Yard Gospel Choir's "I Never Thought I Could Feel This Way For A Boy." Coming to a radio station near you never.
posted by adipocere at 4:50 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


I kissed a girl and I liked it. Makes sense, cause I'm a lesbian.

(shamlessly stolen from Brian Safi's That's So Gay segment on Infomania. Also, true.)
posted by arcticwoman at 4:52 PM on October 30, 2009 [5 favorites]


permafrost: Don't forget Stephen Lynch.
posted by rusty at 5:06 PM on October 30, 2009


I thought it was amusing, if stupid.

I think the opposite would be a boy singing "I didn't kiss a boy and I didn't like it."
posted by Saxon Kane at 5:10 PM on October 30, 2009


I sadly don't have a Youtube account to verify I'm over 18 and thus capable of dealing with adult themes. But I think the opposite is "I fucked a girl and it didn't really leave a lasting impression on my sexuality. I'm still open to the possibilities of sex with other women, but until I have a substantial enough experience in that area I shall withhold any final judgement. My sexual career with men has been very long and varied, and to come to any conclusion that might lead to the invalidation of those experiences would be hasty. However, I do now like the taste of cherry chapstick. Though what she was doing using it down there, I'll never fathom."
posted by Sova at 5:19 PM on October 30, 2009 [13 favorites]


There was a very funny cover of this song wherein it was a gay boy agonizing over the fact that he kissed a girl and he liked it and for the life of me I cannot find it now.
posted by The Whelk at 5:28 PM on October 30, 2009


There are many things I dislike about Katy Perry, but the one thing I particularly dislike is that Jill Sobule's earlier, far superior, identically titled song is now semantically lost in the shuffle.

But, yeah, kind of finding the post's video to be weak sauce.
posted by WCityMike at 5:35 PM on October 30, 2009 [7 favorites]


I remember once on twitter me and these other people were rewriting "I Kissed a Girl" so it read like Frank Miller wrote it as narrative captions for Sin City. Something about "her cherry Chapstick, glistening like blood on the chops of Kali." Good times.

There's a video of a dude pretend-blowing another dude? I think I'll stick with Rabbits, but whatever works for you, man.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 5:37 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


rusty:
Is this the Pansy Division thread? No? It should be.

Yes, yes indeed it should.

Only PD can take a toneless, dull song by Liz Phair and turn it into one of the most beautiful high-energy rock-n-roll tunes about lust ever made, gay or straight.
posted by xthlc at 5:37 PM on October 30, 2009


I think the opposite would be a boy singing "I didn't kiss a boy and I didn't like it."

That would be most of Morrissey's oeuvre, wouldn't it?
posted by gimonca at 5:41 PM on October 30, 2009 [17 favorites]


Only PD can take a toneless, dull song by Liz Phair

Oh, oh, hang on a MINUTE. Liz Phair's toneless, dull songs came later. She was still good then!
posted by kittens for breakfast at 5:41 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


A gay friend of mine very earnestly sang it as "I kissed a girl but I like cock".
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:51 PM on October 30, 2009 [2 favorites]


I'm confused. I'm supposed to believe the singer isn't gay?
posted by cjorgensen at 6:40 PM on October 30, 2009


Asking for a straight boy to sing "I kissed a boy and I liked it" is probably too much to hope for in this century,

I'm a straight dude and I made out with a guy once. It was OK.

I really can't sing though so you may have to wait for the next century.
posted by jonmc at 6:48 PM on October 30, 2009


Did someone make a "Gaylord Perry" joke yet?
posted by Mayor Curley at 6:48 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


What do they have on The Macarena

There's this from Finland.
posted by Mayor Curley at 6:57 PM on October 30, 2009


lol Lola.
posted by effluvia at 6:59 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


I think the opposite would be a boy singing "I didn't kiss a boy and I didn't like it."

That would be most of Morrissey's oeuvre, wouldn't it?


This comment should have its own appreciation society.
posted by Sova at 7:16 PM on October 30, 2009 [2 favorites]


Asking for a straight boy to sing "I kissed a boy and I liked it" is probably too much to hope for in this century,

I'm a straight dude and I made out with a guy once. It was OK.

I really can't sing though so you may have to wait for the next century.



johnmc - I've known you here for a few years, and all I can say is - Damn I
wish there were more straight guys like you.

[btw - I've made out with a few girls too. And I think it's ironic when I sing the song with original lyrics, with my boyfriend watching.]
posted by yesster at 7:37 PM on October 30, 2009


thank you.

*returns to pint of Shiner Bock and Entemann's Halloween Cupcake frosting top*
posted by jonmc at 7:51 PM on October 30, 2009


People, did any of you pass algebra? The opposite, to me, means having an odd number of negatives. So, the opposite of I Kissed a Girl (And I liked it) could be I Did Not Kiss a Girl (And I liked that), or I Kissed a Girl (And I Did Not Like It), or possibly I Kissed a Boy (And I Liked It). I forgot if changing gender counts as -1 or not.

Saying I Did Not Kiss a Girl (And I Did Not Like It) is a double negative, and thus positive. Think it through, too. She's upset as she did not get to kiss a girl, an activity she says she likes in the song. It makes sense both as a spoken statement and as a logic exercise.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be writing up my research paper to submit to the Journal of The American Musicology Society to inform them of the impact of negatives on the meaning of a song.
posted by mccarty.tim at 7:55 PM on October 30, 2009 [5 favorites]


mccarty.tim, I'd like to make a joke about loving your post being the opposite about how I feel about the song in this post AND the Katy Perry song that inspired it (as I'm not fond of both with equal reactions but for opposite reasons, I think), and do it in some sort of amusing math way, but I can't... so instead I'll say favorite and thanks instead... because your call out on our (lack of) collective algebra skills made me spit part of my cocktail out my nose.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 8:14 PM on October 30, 2009


Damn I wish there were more straight guys like you.

Oh, there are plenty. As far as I can tell, being straight means you don't swallow. Usually.
posted by me & my monkey at 8:25 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


I kissed a squirrel,
and I liked it.

Those lips so thin,
that tail that twitched,
the taste of his
walnut chapstick.
posted by CynicalKnight at 9:00 PM on October 30, 2009 [7 favorites]


There was a parody of Perry's song written and sung by a guy. One of her friends, Gabe Saporta of Cobra Starship did it. The song I Kissed a Boy was released on the Fall Out Boy mix tape they gave away as a free download right before their last album came out. shut up, don't judge me. Lemme see if I still have a copy.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8t3yyp

There. Should be okay to share as it was a free download.

Enjoy.
posted by FunkyHelix at 9:02 PM on October 30, 2009


[few comments removed - this is an edgy post, sure, but text dumps of journal articles is a weird way to respond. please go to metatalk or come back tomorrow.]
posted by jessamyn at 9:02 PM on October 30, 2009


I kissed a squirrel.
posted by empath at 9:05 PM on October 30, 2009



Asking for a straight boy to sing "I kissed a boy and I liked it" is probably too much to hope for in this century,

I'm a straight dude and I made out with a guy once. It was OK.

I really can't sing though so you may have to wait for the next century.


johnmc - I've known you here for a few years, and all I can say is - Damn I
wish there were more straight guys like you.


Well I don't know him, but based on this confession alone and my experience, there are more than a couple boys out there at the fraternities of certain liberal arts colleges...at least there were a decade or so ago. Not that I'm particularly cute (and not that a straight guy should care anyway) I was just friendly and totally non-threatening (there was something about being in an open gay relationship when no one else on campus was that made me and my boyfriend incredibly popular for first base straight boy experimentation, I guess) ...and totally knew when to be at the right places at the right time when the right amount of alcohol had been served.

Trust me - it's fun on a Saturday night, but a little uncomfortable when someone feels they can make eye contact at you from under his ball cap in the caf on a Sunday morning. (That wasn't always true -- usually we laughed about it... usually)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 9:06 PM on October 30, 2009


I think i may be the only person in the world who loves the original song unabashedly. It's gloriously trashy pop music.

I also like most of the remixes..

Especially this one.
posted by empath at 9:12 PM on October 30, 2009


empath: most pop songs can be improved by substituting the word "squirrel" for "girl". That said, the video that went with that (I presume from the Wonka remake), was pretty hard for me to watch.

You see I am a survivor of a squirrel attack.

An ex-boss of mine had a kitten, once upon a time, which brought home a naked little baby squirrel. He and his wife felt some pity for the little thing, so they fed it with an eyedropper full of milk and kept it warm etc. and ended up with a cute little hand-raised squirrel. Then its balls dropped. After going through puberty, this adorable little cute thing became a territorial and hostile maniac. One day it trapped it's "mommy" in her bedroom, jumping on her and biting and clawing if she tried to leave the room. After this incident, they built a cage, which they kept in the warehouse which served as their combination home / lumberyard as the owner proprietors of a small wood salvage business, where I eventually became an employee. Nobody told me that the squirrel was a psychotic asshole that randomly jumps on people and attacks them, or that they let the squirrel loose at night in the main warehouse space.

One day the boss slept in, and myself and the other employee were sitting and waiting in the breakroom, and I decided to go ahead and get started with a few things until our boss decided to come down and join us. The other guy's English wasn't so good, so I did not understand what he was saying, but I should have payed more attention to he nervous tone, and the fact that he was backing away into the next room and pulling his sweatshirt up over his head as I opened that door into the main warehouse space. As soon as I walked in, the squirrel drop down from above me, onto my head, and started attacking. It was biting, clawing, trying to get in under my clothes... moving very fast, and I nearly pulled a muscle trying to grab it off of an awkward place on my back. My co-worker grabbed the air-hose which we used to clean sawdust off of the woodworking machinery and started spraying it at the squirrel trying to get it to jump off of me and run away. Eventually all the shouting woke my boss who came down from the loft in his bathrobe and calmly trapped the squirrel in a towel and put him back in the cage, joking that I was lucky not to be bit hard enough to need an emergency room visit. It turns out my co-worker had made a similar mistake in the past and gotten a very deep bite which led to an infection. I was lucky enough to have only gotten four or five bites and deep scratches, none of which got infected (though the ones one my head did bleed quite a bit, as is usual for any cuts to the head).

This was not the first or last trouble that this particular squirrel was to cause for my employer. He tried to give it to a wildlife rehabilitation center, but he broke some other poor squirrel's arm, and they gave him back. One day work was suspended in the middle of the day because the squirrel got out of the warehouse and the boss went off to find him.
posted by idiopath at 9:40 PM on October 30, 2009 [5 favorites]


PeterMcDermott, you seriously don't see the homophobia here?

Think about the song this is parodying. Putting aside for the moment the aesthetic merits of the original and the question of whether the original is genuinely celebrating female gay experimentation, or just exploiting an edgy topic for cynical commercial purposes, the original at least portrayed the singer's experimentation in fairly positive terms: she liked it, she describes women as attractive from a woman's point of view, and the actual performance of the song was delivered with a clear intention of being enjoyable.

This parody on the other hand does everything it can to portray male gay experimentation in the most repulsive possible terms, the singer describes his involvement in giving his friend head as something he didn't engage in for any positive purpose, found disgusting during the performance, and regretted it after the fact, and wants to tell us all about how bad it was. Furthermore the performance clearly is designed to portray someone who might be willing to engage in male gay experimentation as an ugly, weak loser.

In short, this is just a pathetic reiteration of the idea that male homosexuality is disgusting and offensive. I don't see any other way of interpreting it, the fact that you found it so funny I think says a lot about you.
posted by Reverend John at 9:41 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


In short, this is just a pathetic reiteration of the idea that male homosexuality is disgusting and offensive.

Couldn't disagree more, and I think you've completely missed the point of the parody, to be honest. The tone in this spoof isn't really one of disgust, it's more of a tone of "yeah, I tried it, not really into it." What's most interesting to me about this is that while Katy Perry's song is supposed to be controversial, it's really just playing on a rather common trope of sexuality in the media these days, namely that girls fooling around with each other isn't really seen as a big deal and that, hey, isn't it kind of hot?

On the other hand, you take something that some people, however wrongheaded it may be, might find more distasteful (curiosity about male homosexuality) and you have something that actually does raise eyebrows. If anything, I think this video should be applauded for asking people to at least think about the notion of what homosexuality is and could be instead of just using it as a cliched gimmick for a million-selling pop song.
posted by dhammond at 10:05 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


Is this the Pansy Division thread? No? It should be.

Hell yes it should be.
posted by cmonkey at 10:54 PM on October 30, 2009 [1 favorite]


In the following discussion, for the purposes of simplification I'm going to consider the genders of Male and Female both mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive, however no slight or disrespect is intended towards people whose gender identity may be more complicated and does not neatly fit into this scheme, in fact I invite a better mathematician than me (of which there are many) of any gender identity to correct and expand on this work.

Also, for the purposes of this discussion we are only going to consider kisses with some significant romantic content. Platonic kisses on the cheek between friends, or kisses signifying love between siblings, parents and children, or other familial relationships are not considered kisses for the purposes of this post.

Let us consider the set of all possible people you could have kissed in the past.

You could be of either gender, however given our assumptions you are only one gender.

Therefore you could be female. You could be a female who has not kissed anyone (which we will signify as F0), you could be a female who has kissed one or more women and no men (which we will signify as FF), you could be a female who has kissed one or more men and no women (which we will signify as FM), or you could be a woman who has kissed one or more men AND one or more women (which we will signify as FMF).

Therefore the set of all the possible conditions of your kissing history are K = {F0, FF, FM, and FMF}. If you have kissed a woman you could be either in FF or FMF. If you have not kissed a woman you could be in F0 or FM. If you have kissed a man you could be in FM or FMF. If you have not kissed a man you could be in F0 or FF.

Therefore the statement "I kissed a girl" is equivalent to "I am in either the set FF or FMF". The opposite of this statement is "I am not in either the set FF or FMF", or equivalently "I am in the set K - FF - FMF = {F0, FM}", "I have not kissed a girl".

The set of whether or not you liked these various conditions is as follows.

In the situations where you have kissed only members of one or less genders (the set {F0, FF, and FM}) the situation is simple, either you liked it or you didn't, so we can signify these conditions as F0L: haven't kissed anyone and like it; F0D: haven't kissed anyone and don't like it; FFL: kissed a woman and liked it at least once; FFD: kissed a woman but never liked it; FML: kissed a man and liked it at least once; FMD: kissed a man and never liked it.

Furthermore for women who have kissed both men and women they could have: never liked kissing women, or liked it one or more times; or they could have never liked kissing men, or liked it one or more times, for four possible situations: FFDMD (didn't like either), FFLMD (liked kissing women, didn't like kissing men), FFDML (didn't like kissing women, liked kissing men), and FFLML (liked kissing women and men).

So the set of all possible opinions on kissing people is: KO = {F0L, F0D, FFL, FFD, FML, FMD, FFDMD, FFLMD, FFDML, FFLML}.

Therefore the statement "I kissed a girl and I liked it" is equivalent to "I am in the set FL = {FFL, FFLMD, or FFLML}". The complement of this set is KO - FL = {F0L, F0D, FFD, FML, FMD, FFDMD, FFDML}. So, we could say, the opposite of "I kissed a girl AND I liked it" is "I either have never kissed a girl, or I have kissed a girl but I didn't like it".

We can make a similar argument starting with a Male kisser. However we can see that this set of definitions means that the opposite of "I kissed a girl and I liked it" has nothing to do with a male making a statement about his kissing preferences, or if we consider flipping over to male gender a negation of the original statement, then the male negative of a woman saying "I kissed a girl and I liked it", is the equivalent male statement of "I kissed a boy and I liked it". These can be seen as parallel statements of the more generic "I kissed a member of the same sex as myself, and I liked it". In either case, the opposite of Katy Perry's (or Jill Sobule's more excellent, though I guiltily admit I did like the Katy Perry one too) statement is not "I sucked off a bloke and I didn't like it".

If you have any questions, comments, corrections, or clarifications of this work, please visit me at the gay bar.
posted by Reverend John at 10:55 PM on October 30, 2009 [10 favorites]


Couldn't disagree more, and I think you've completely missed the point of the parody, to be honest. The tone in this spoof isn't really one of disgust, it's more of a tone of "yeah, I tried it, not really into it."

I wish you were right, but I don't think the song and its accompanying video support this interpretation. From the statements in the lyrics about how he wasn't just "not really into it", but rather he repeatedly describes it as "cheesy", "rank", "I can't show my face down at the pub", etc. Beyond that the intentionally nasal style the singer uses, which I'm sure he could have smoothed out if he wanted to, and the imagery in the video, making the participants involved as repulsive as possible all point to the goal of this video as not simply portraying homosexuality as something that some might enjoy, just not this guy, but as something inherently disgusting.

In short, he doesn't tell us a story about how he was tempted by the attractiveness of his co-worker into trying something he might not have otherwise have been interested in, and simply found it not to be his preferred sexual experience even under ideal circumstances. Instead he presented gay experimentation as a repulsive, regrettable mistake.

Now, I'm not going to defend Katy Perry's song as a great work of art, or claim that the main motivation behind it wasn't just to cynically exploit a artificial, superficial taboo, just that the Perry song was at least not going out and saying, in effect, "hey, are those dykes a bunch of freaks or what?" Which is what this song basically does.
posted by Reverend John at 11:25 PM on October 30, 2009


Asking for a straight boy to sing "I kissed a boy and I liked it" is probably too much to hope for in this century

Here you go (wait till 2:20 or so, Greek TV but in English)
posted by costas at 2:23 AM on October 31, 2009


One thing that struck me about the video is how much controversy the media generated over it, despite "bi-curious" being a 1990s staple; yet nearly no one remarked on the fact that at the end of the video, when she wakes up next to her boyfriend, he happens to be black.

I'm not saying that an interracial relationship is shocking, but that by this constructed controversy we are saying that bi-curious is more shocking than cheating on your black boyfriend.

Look at it another way: This is a highly manufactured video. Even Katy Perry's name isn't authentic; her real name is Kate Hudson, but to avoid confusion she changed it. She doesn't want you to think of her that way.

How does she/record labels/MTV want you to think of her? They want to tell a planet of people impossible to be shocked by anything that kissing a girl is shocking. WOW! Not tongued a girl, not a threesome-- just kissed her. This is the same station that wants you to know that the Jonas Bros are as cool like Jay-Z in their own way.

MTV et al can't compete with the internet, HBO, porn... we've seen it all. The best they can do is reset the youth culture, start over, make it clean, sober, and hip-hop light.

The video isn't supposed to shock you or capture a trend (the way Jill's did.) It's supposed to convince kids that this is still shocking so they have something to offer.
posted by TheLastPsychiatrist at 6:48 AM on October 31, 2009


[few comments removed - bravelittletoaster, drop us a note if you want to take this to MeTa but you can't stay here.]
posted by jessamyn at 7:27 AM on October 31, 2009


He looks like he's impersonating Super Hans from Peep Show.

Did I do it right, Super Hans?
posted by opsin at 7:30 AM on October 31, 2009


I had only the dimmest awareness of Katy Perry before this post, so thanks for that. But I think we're missing the big story, which is that her companion song Ur So Gay is possibly the worst, most offensive, dismissive, and derogatory song of all time.

I am not even kidding about that.

Lyrics sample:

I hope you hang yourself with your H&M scarf
While jacking off listening to Mozart
You bitch and moan about LA
Wishing you were in the rain reading Hemingway
You don’t eat meat
And drive electrical cars
You’re so indie rock it’s almost an art
You need SPF 45 just to stay alive

You’re so gay and you don’t even like boys
No you don’t even like
No you don’t even like
No you don’t even like boys
posted by ErikaB at 9:46 AM on October 31, 2009 [1 favorite]


My friend deejayed for Kunt and the Gang.

This is the claim to fame thread, aye?
posted by the cuban at 10:56 AM on October 31, 2009


Ur So Gay is possibly the worst, most offensive, dismissive, and derogatory song of all time.

Sounds like your standard hipster hate to me? 'You’re so gay and you don’t even like boys' implies to me it isn't about sexuality.
posted by Catfry at 2:52 PM on October 31, 2009


I think there's something to that, Catfry, though, hey, thanks a million Katy Perry for using gay as a slur. I hope Jill Sobule beats you to within an inch of your life with her guitar.
posted by Reverend John at 3:17 PM on October 31, 2009


Not to mention insulting males who like classical music, or literature, or electric cars, or are vegetarian, or generally don't fit a "macho" stereotype.
posted by Zalzidrax at 3:32 PM on October 31, 2009 [2 favorites]


What was controversial about Katy Perry's song? The vapidity of its lyrics? The shitty music backing up her vocals? The total lack of either sensuality or emotional depth to the song?

Or was it the fact that a girl whose previous radio single had been making fun of her ex-boyfriend's supposed effeminate behavior and implied homosexuality was now trying to capitalize on a song about bicuriousity?

I'm sure the song this FPP references is just as bad or worse, but since I'm at work I can't, er, "enjoy" it. (Even if I wanted to -- YouTube links are blocked.)
posted by Target Practice at 12:08 AM on November 1, 2009


Sounds like your standard hipster hate to me? 'You’re so gay and you don’t even like boys' implies to me it isn't about sexuality.

It uses a stereotype of what gay men are like to deride "effeminate" straight men.

We all know that real men are meat eaters - not like these effeminate hipsters who are vegans, just like gays. (If that sentence seems offensive to you, then you might also understand why the song is.)
posted by matkline at 1:38 AM on November 1, 2009 [1 favorite]


It uses a stereotype of what gay men are like to deride "effeminate" straight men.

That's a valid interpretation. I don't know if it is the right one. It might be hating on a sub-culture of men (that just happens to express stereotypical 'gay-like' characteristics), or it might hate on a sub-culture of men (BECAUSE they express stereotypical 'gay-like' characteristics).
posted by Catfry at 6:54 AM on November 1, 2009


Hey, you know, I just want to append this to the discussion, because its made me think of it.

Steve Goodman, Men Who Love Women Who Love Men
posted by Reverend John at 9:24 AM on November 2, 2009


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